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(Opposing Views)   Girl accidentally forgets a pocket knife in her purse, school hands down a totally reasonable 3-day suspension. Fark: Which the superintendent then promptly raises to a 12-month expulsion   (opposingviews.com) divider line 304
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2014-04-29 07:40:42 PM
 
2014-04-29 08:00:43 PM

haemaker: Here is an unopposed view:

http://blogs.mprnews.org/newscut/2014/04/model-student-expelled-for- br inging-knife-to-school/


Well that's pretty much the same thing, which is usually surprising given the source.  Then again, we're dealing with a school board, which may as well be an HOA these days...
 
2014-04-29 08:03:43 PM
fark you, Jerry Jensen.

/has taught in a school system that requires students to have small knives
// Total stabbings: 0
 
2014-04-29 08:07:53 PM

Lsherm: haemaker: Here is an unopposed view:

http://blogs.mprnews.org/newscut/2014/04/model-student-expelled-for- br inging-knife-to-school/

Well that's pretty much the same thing, which is usually surprising given the source.  Then again, we're dealing with a school board, which may as well be an HOA these days...


Or cops, considering they searched her in the first place because somebody thought they smelled weed.
 
2014-04-29 08:29:11 PM
That'll teach her

/well... eventually
 
2014-04-29 08:30:36 PM
Every now and then I get involved.

There was a time before when a Vietnamese student, although doing well in school except for her one absence due to illness that could not be verified by a parent (because she was abandoned by her parents and it turns out taking care of her siblings) was about to be destroyed by the school system. I have the canceled check to prove it.

This is one of those times.
 
2014-04-29 08:31:54 PM
"Alyssa's family will not give up and will continue to fight, not only for Alyssa but for all kids.... Thank you to everyone for your support!" wrote the page's administrator last week.

She comes from a family of fighters.  A kid from a family in which fighting is a way of life, and she has a knife?   An expulsion is crisis averted, I'd say.
 
2014-04-29 09:21:47 PM
I once forgot I had a pocket knife on me in 6th grade and discovered it in the middle of class. I quietly put it away and didn't let anyone know I had it until I could get it home.
 
2014-04-29 09:27:34 PM

haemaker: Here is an unopposed view:

http://blogs.mprnews.org/newscut/2014/04/model-student-expelled-for- br inging-knife-to-school/


I'll see your link and offer another UN-opposed view -- Non OV Link
 
2014-04-29 09:29:08 PM
Those school officials know where it's at. They've seen West Side Story.

www.moviecitizens.com

Knives lead to gangs and singing.
 
2014-04-29 09:38:16 PM
I'm a high school security officer, and while she may be a good kid, I'm on the side of the school board in this case. The kids will feel safer, and I know my fellow officers will too. Knives, even pocket knives, can be dangerous weapons.
 
2014-04-29 09:52:05 PM

Mark Ratner: I'm a high school security officer, and while she may be a good kid, I'm on the side of the school board in this case. The kids will feel safer, and I know my fellow officers will too. Knives, even pocket knives, can be dangerous weapons.


A year? For a simple mistake? You need to find another place of employment. Seriously. And all your fellow "workers" that would damn a kid for a year for a simple mistake can eat shiat too. Get their opinions. I dare you.
 
2014-04-29 10:07:25 PM

Mark Ratner: I'm a high school security officer, and while she may be a good kid, I'm on the side of the school board in this case. The kids will feel safer, and I know my fellow officers will too. Knives, even pocket knives, can be dangerous weapons.


Which is why a three-day suspension is a reasonable reaction. It is a big deal. But a year?
 
2014-04-29 10:09:06 PM
I live in a small town and even the thought of a knife armed teenager scares the jesus out of me, we all know that leads to satanism and beheadings.  Why just last week we had a weed addict's preschooler sawing away at his prison bars with a shiv.  What is the world coming to.
 
2014-04-29 10:09:12 PM
Who makes these kinds of decisions? Why are the people running our schools so stupid?
 
2014-04-29 10:10:02 PM
She must've been concerned that she would have to turn down some guy who would ask her to a prom.
 
2014-04-29 10:10:14 PM

Mark Ratner: I'm a high school security officer, and while she may be a good kid, I'm on the side of the school board in this case. The kids will feel safer, and I know my fellow officers will too. Knives, even pocket knives, can be dangerous weapons.


Really? Ruining a kids education for an entire year over forgetting about a pocket knife? Including a clause that stated if she told the school about it beforehand she wouldn't have been expelled? This is farking idiotic. I can see the suspension, which I still think is overkill, but three days isn't that bad. But expelling her and forcing her to re-do her junior year because she left a pocket knife in her locker, one that she forgot that she had in the first place? Use common sense. She is a good student; farking with her life like this and potentially affecting her college career over a stupid mistake is overkill, and the school board should be ashamed at this reaction. These "zero tolerance" policies are bullshiat.

/9/10 if you are trolling
//stupid people
///slashies
 
2014-04-29 10:10:43 PM
May I see it?
img.fark.net
 
2014-04-29 10:11:24 PM
Sounds like bullying to me. By the school.
 
2014-04-29 10:11:35 PM

Mark Ratner: I'm a high school security officer, and while she may be a good kid, I'm on the side of the school board in this case. The kids will feel safer, and I know my fellow officers will too. Knives, even pocket knives, can be dangerous weapons.


Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you: Part of the Problem.

(Assuming he's not a troll)
 
2014-04-29 10:12:03 PM

Mark Ratner: I'm a high school security officer, and while she may be a good kid, I'm on the side of the school board in this case. The kids will feel safer, and I know my fellow officers will too. Knives, even pocket knives, can be dangerous weapons.


LIke hell they will. I'm a parent of two teens, and I can tell you what this BS will teach them; that they're subject to the draconian rules of an administration that punishes the smallest mistake with ridiculous penalties. And that the armed man (you) who walks the halls is a tool of that overreacting administration.

Which I suppose is a good lesson for life going forward, but...
 
2014-04-29 10:14:19 PM

Mark Ratner: I'm a high school security officer, and while she may be a good kid, I'm on the side of the school board in this case. The kids will feel safer, and I know my fellow officers will too. Knives, even pocket knives, can be dangerous weapons.


Never been on a farm or in scouting have you, Mark.
 
2014-04-29 10:14:23 PM
The drug dog "mistook" her perfume for drugs. Another case where the dogs detect something that wasn't there.
 
2014-04-29 10:14:35 PM

Mark Ratner: I'm a high school security officer, and while she may be a good kid, I'm on the side of the school board in this case. The kids will feel safer, and I know my fellow officers will too. Knives, even pocket knives, can be dangerous weapons.


That is kind of funny in a very not humorous way.  The only times I have heard of a kid in a non-inner city school bringing a weapon, with intent to do harm, to school was the bullying victims when they snapped.  I am sure the bullies who kiss the teachers' asses feel much safer knowing their victims are unarmed.

/I wish schools took bullying as seriously as they take hoplophobia.
 
2014-04-29 10:14:58 PM
If the superintendent was also carrying a pocket knife this wouldn't have happened.

/amidoin'itrite?
 
2014-04-29 10:15:12 PM

Mark Ratner: I'm a high school security officer, and while she may be a good kid, I'm on the side of the school board in this case. The kids will feel safer, and I know my fellow officers will too. Knives, even pocket knives, can be dangerous weapons.


You will reps my authority!


Maybe you should apply to the TSA
 
2014-04-29 10:15:39 PM

Mark Ratner: I'm a high school security officer, and while she may be a good kid, I'm on the side of the school board in this case. The kids will feel safer, and I know my fellow officers will too. Knives, even pocket knives, can be dangerous weapons.


Aw, dude! 10/10!
 
2014-04-29 10:19:08 PM
A ball point pen is the best.  If you wrap a layer of duct tape around it you can punch holes in wall paneling.  Your move, asshole.
 
2014-04-29 10:19:10 PM

Mark Ratner: I'm a high school security officer, and while she may be a good kid, I'm on the side of the school board in this case. The kids will feel safer, and I know my fellow officers will too. Knives, even pocket knives, can be dangerous weapons.


I gotta ask, are you trolling, or are you serious?
 
2014-04-29 10:20:13 PM
Thought this was to be another of those situations where the student, upon finding the forgotten blade, decides to bring this to the attention of an authority and promptly hands over only to be slapped with a suspension which never would have occurred had the student simply kept quiet.

Random search of her purse in a small, Minnesota town by police dogs? How in the f*ck does a Minnesotan high school have random searches, much less with the use of police dogs. Wonder if the argument may be made about the nature of the search being done on a false positive.
 
2014-04-29 10:20:14 PM
I remember taking an M1 Garand to school to use as a prop in a play. I removed the bolt first because I'm not a complete moron, but nobody even asked me about it when I carried it in. This was in the 90s.
 
2014-04-29 10:20:19 PM

haemaker: Here is an unopposed view:

http://blogs.mprnews.org/newscut/2014/04/model-student-expelled-for- br inging-knife-to-school/


The district attorney said the school can't have two sets of rules, one for the model students and one for the rest.

wat
 
2014-04-29 10:20:36 PM
D'oh!

www.troll.me
 
2014-04-29 10:21:19 PM

Mark Ratner: I'm a high school security officer, and while she may be a good kid, I'm on the side of the school board in this case. The kids will feel safer, and I know my fellow officers will too. Knives, even pocket knives, can be dangerous weapons.


This is how it's done, children. Short, sweet, with nothing obvious but just plausible enough to anger people.

Actually got me a bit angry for a moment.

10/10
 
2014-04-29 10:22:09 PM
Don't be looking in my locker!

img.fark.net
 
2014-04-29 10:23:10 PM
All of this seems like the wrong approach.

She should be sent to Oklahoma for experimental execution drug testing.
 
2014-04-29 10:23:19 PM
There are child rapists in Canada who get less than 12 months of anything.
 
2014-04-29 10:23:29 PM

Mark Ratner: I'm a high school security officer, and while she may be a good kid, I'm on the side of the school board in this case. The kids will feel safer, and I know my fellow officers will too. Knives, even pocket knives, can be dangerous weapons.


I think I've seen you around.  You're the 300 lb fatass who rides around in the golf cart which doubles as the "No hall pass?  Come with me, miscreant" paddy wagon, aint ya?

/no?  Well, I sure have seen plenty of those around regardless...
 
2014-04-29 10:23:35 PM

Because People in power are Stupid: Those school officials know where it's at. They've seen West Side Story.

[www.moviecitizens.com image 850x374]

Knives lead to gangs and singing.


What kind of knives are those? Are they using the West Side Of The Force?
 
2014-04-29 10:23:37 PM

Delay: Mark Ratner: I'm a high school security officer, and while she may be a good kid, I'm on the side of the school board in this case. The kids will feel safer, and I know my fellow officers will too. Knives, even pocket knives, can be dangerous weapons.

A year? For a simple mistake? You need to find another place of employment. Seriously. And all your fellow "workers" that would damn a kid for a year for a simple mistake can eat shiat too. Get their opinions. I dare you.


But then EVERY kid who gets caught with a pocket knife will claim "simple mistake". And because Delay, and your Kumbaya singin' believe-anything forgive-everything types have demanded a precedent be set....

It sucks that she broke the 11th commandment, and a year seems pretty steep. I will grant you that.
 
2014-04-29 10:24:05 PM
Funny, I carried a pocket knife from about 8th grade through high school graduation. I still carry a pocket knife to this day.

/off my lawn
//just the rise and fall of the modern roman empire.
///cycles, how do they work.
 
2014-04-29 10:24:50 PM

Fark like a Barsoomian: haemaker: Here is an unopposed view:

http://blogs.mprnews.org/newscut/2014/04/model-student-expelled-for- br inging-knife-to-school/

The district attorney said the school can't have two sets of rules, one for the model students and one for the rest.

wat


Only if the model student has affluenza.
 
2014-04-29 10:25:10 PM

advex101: A ball point pen is the best.  If you wrap a layer of duct tape around it you can punch holes in wall paneling.  Your move, asshole.


The corner of the binding of a Bible will create quite the tactical advantage also.  A padlock can make a passable blackjack in times of need.  I am fond of rolls of quarters, too.

/"Well, if you didn't jacket up the prices on the soda machine,  I wouldn't need a whole roll of quarters."
 
2014-04-29 10:25:28 PM

Fark like a Barsoomian: The district attorney said the school can't have two sets of rules, one for the model students and one for the rest.


apparently they can. three days for the normal students, one year if you are a model student they want to 'make an example of' to scare the others, which is precisely the reasoning they openly admit to having used.
 
2014-04-29 10:25:52 PM
You know you are old when carrying a penknife or small blade was considered sensible preparation for the various needs of the day.  I had a bumblebee folding knife with a 2 inch blade every single day of high school, for opening boxes, removing insulation from wires in various projects including my car stereo, innumerable odd tasks that seemed to come up constantly.  No, I never stabbed anyone.

/nerd
//wanna make something of it?
 
2014-04-29 10:26:09 PM
WOOT! Zero tolerance thred!!

My zero tolerance story for today...my kindergartner got kicked off of the school bus for standing up while the bus was in motion. Now, mind you, she stood up to get away from a 4th grad boy that punched her in the private area. Doesn't matter...she's been warned before about standing up, so she gets kicked off too.

If it makes it any better, the bigger crotch-punching kid also got kicked off. At least, that was the transportation department's defense for this idiocy.
 
2014-04-29 10:26:18 PM

strangeluck: Mark Ratner: I'm a high school security officer, and while she may be a good kid, I'm on the side of the school board in this case. The kids will feel safer, and I know my fellow officers will too. Knives, even pocket knives, can be dangerous weapons.

I gotta ask, are you trolling, or are you serious?


You try my job for a week, and then ask me if I'm trolling. Kids these days can be very violent and unpredictable, and I don't need them running around the halls with knives, that's for sure. We are the unsung warriors just trying to keep the children safe. We live by a code..."the kids go home at the end of the day, safe and sound, and hopefully we do too."
 
2014-04-29 10:26:46 PM

Big Ramifications: Delay: Mark Ratner: I'm a high school security officer, and while she may be a good kid, I'm on the side of the school board in this case. The kids will feel safer, and I know my fellow officers will too. Knives, even pocket knives, can be dangerous weapons.

A year? For a simple mistake? You need to find another place of employment. Seriously. And all your fellow "workers" that would damn a kid for a year for a simple mistake can eat shiat too. Get their opinions. I dare you.

But then EVERY kid who gets caught with a pocket knife will claim "simple mistake". And because Delay, and your Kumbaya singin' believe-anything forgive-everything types have demanded a precedent be set....

It sucks that she broke the 11th commandment, and a year seems pretty steep. I will grant you that.


Have we as a culture simply lost to ability to use reasonable judgement or something? Rules like these are beyond stupid, they're willfully obtuse.
 
2014-04-29 10:27:23 PM
I think every girl should carry a knife.  It'll protect her more than any notion of modesty ever will.
 
2014-04-29 10:27:43 PM

Mark Ratner: We live by a code..."the kids go home at the end of the day, safe and sound, and hopefully we do too."


You were doing so well, but had to push it.
 
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