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(JSOnline)   Federal Judge Strikes down Wisconsin GOP's attempt to pre-stuff the ballot box in 2014 and 2016 ruling that "it is absolutely clear that Act 23 will prevent more legitimate votes from being cast than fraudulent votes"   (jsonline.com) divider line 211
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2014-04-30 11:39:20 AM  

Bf+: UNC_Samurai: Bf+: UNC_Samurai: fusillade762: DeltaPunch: floor: Mrtraveler01: BSABSVR: you are a puppet:

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Why many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop?


I used to date a girl who's nickname was "Tootsie." It didn't take many licks before the pop, I'm just saying.
 
2014-04-30 12:03:25 PM  

namatad: fusillade762: I'm sure SCOTUS will take care of that eventually.

alas, it will be QUITE interesting to watch how SCOTUS decides this.
Because the logic of this decision is irrefutable, you are harming a MUCH larger number of citizens than you are preventing from committing fraud.

the net effect of the law is to clearly do harm, not prevent harm


I'm gonna say they'll take a pass on it.
 
2014-04-30 12:08:29 PM  

eagles95: The guys at the NSA reading that post probably fall asleep fapping to that thought


The NSA doesn't need you to be tagged. They already know where you work, what you drive, what your buying habits are, your marital status, whether you have kids, where you live, and the metadata from your phone. With that information they could probably predict just about everything down to the frequency and consistency of your bowel movements.
 
2014-04-30 12:11:55 PM  

Monkeyhouse Zendo: With that information they could probably predict just about everything down to the frequency and consistency of your bowel movements


Yeah it wouldn't be hard just look at how often you play games on the phone and you could probably get a pretty darn good idea when people are pooping.
 
2014-04-30 01:06:48 PM  

Destructor: LouDobbsAwaaaay: "What's wrong with making it harder to vote?" -- The GOP

First, I'll complete that thought you started, "What's wrong with making it harder for Democrats to vote?"--The GOP.

Well, that is wrong.

But in general, what's wrong with making it harder to vote when any timid idiot easily swayed by a TV ad can cast a ballot? Is that how you want to leave the fate of the country? How's it working out so far?

I don't want to make it a herculean effort to vote, but it should require a little sacrifice and demonstrable knowledge that you do, in fact, know what you're voting for.


I can guarantee you that the person who is standing in line for an hour to vote, cares about the issues and candidates. When I get to the polling place at ten to six in the morning and there are fifty people in line ahead of me. They aren't there because they decided to vote on a whim. In the small town I grew up in you might be able to stop in and vote just because you happened to be in the neighborhood, but in the city, where I now live, it is a real investment of time and energy. There the people who don't care are already not voting.

I'm liberal and I truly believe that a citizenship test would prevent more conservative votes than liberal votes. Yet I would never support a requirement that strips the fundamental right of voting from any citizen.
 
2014-04-30 01:24:02 PM  
Too bad our elections are still controlled by the machines whose companies are run by partisan fatcats
 
2014-04-30 02:19:16 PM  

paganj: I can guarantee you that the person who is standing in line for an hour to vote, cares about the issues and candidates. When I get to the polling place at ten to six in the morning and there are fifty people in line ahead of me.


Okay, this is the very first thing that needs to get fixed. Voter ID to the rescue? Imagine (if you will) that you could pre-fill out a ballot and then drop it off with a judge and just leave after showing your ID.

paganj: In the small town I grew up in you might be able to stop in and vote just because you happened to be in the neighborhood


This is my sole experience with the process. As long as I've been voting (mid 80s), I've never had to wait more than 5 minutes.

paganj: 'm liberal and I truly believe that a citizenship test would prevent more conservative votes than liberal votes.


I believe (unfortunately) you might be right. I tend to be conservative.

paganj: Yet I would never support a requirement that strips the fundamental right of voting from any citizen.


And on the face of it, it would seem that I would.

However, bare in mind that the Constitution, prior to being amended, left the rights of voting to the states (where by today's standards, it was a disaster... in some places, only property owners could vote, etc). Today, there are about 4 amendments (I think) that affect voting rights.

Even now, suffrage is not universal. Those underage can't vote (some of those kids I'd trust with my life; but only a minority), and in some states felons (I had to look it up to make sure I wasn't misremembering) can't vote. I'm not sure we should change that (but I am sure some punishments shouldn't be felonies).
 
2014-04-30 04:33:40 PM  
If the SCOTUS over turns this it will rank with Dread Scott as one of their worst rulings ever.
 
2014-04-30 05:41:49 PM  

KIA: Why is my ID used to force me to pay taxes?

Why is my ID required to open a bank account?

Why do I need an ID / license to drive?

Why do I need proof of insurance?

Why do I have to register for W-9s at work?

Why do people need licenses to do particular jobs?


and which of these is a constitutionally protected right?
 
2014-04-30 05:45:12 PM  

Robin Hoodie: Photo IDs are free in Wisconsin, not having one just seems weird.

also the 7th circuit will probably overturn Adelman for the thousandth time


But the documentation to obtain them is not, so it is still a poll tax.
 
2014-04-30 10:59:38 PM  

Destructor: Kittypie070: Cats shoot people who think they can take away cat's inalienable right to vote.

/rubber band guns

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This is how Kennedy won the 1960 election people.

Read a damn history book.


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