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(JSOnline)   Federal Judge Strikes down Wisconsin GOP's attempt to pre-stuff the ballot box in 2014 and 2016 ruling that "it is absolutely clear that Act 23 will prevent more legitimate votes from being cast than fraudulent votes"   (jsonline.com) divider line 211
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2014-04-30 12:30:04 AM

Kittypie070: Cats shoot people who think they can take away cat's inalienable right to vote.

/rubber band guns


Cat defends its rights. I'm on board with this.
 
2014-04-30 12:34:33 AM

Triple Oak: The debate that I was responding to was about the First Amendment right of free speech, not the Constitutional Right to vote. I like the research though.


Yes -- and for the conversation to have any relevance to the topic at hand, voting must first have be considered a form of speech protected by the First Amendment.

It's not.
 
2014-04-30 12:38:53 AM
"Because virtually no voter impersonation occurs in Wisconsin and it is exceedingly unlikely that voter impersonation will become a problem in Wisconsin in the foreseeable future, this particular state interest has very little weight," he wrote.

"The defendants could not point to a single instance of known voter impersonation occurring in Wisconsin at any time in the recent past."

"The defendants could not point to a single instance of known voter impersonation occurring in Wisconsin at any time in the recent past."

"The defendants could not point to a single instance of known voter impersonation occurring in Wisconsin at any time in the recent past."


"The defendants could not point to a single instance of known voter impersonation occurring in Wisconsin at any time in the recent past."

"THE DEFENDANTS COULD NOT POINT TO A SINGLE INSTANCE OF KNOWN VOTER IMPERSONATION OCCURRING IN WISCONSIN AT ANY TIME IN THE RECENT PAST."


I thought I'd repeat this a few times. Of course the paid shills will keep lying about the purpose of "voter id" laws, but the fact remains that they never, ever have an answer to this: Their "solution" is to a problem that doesn't exist, and by pure coincidence happens to directly harm large numbers of legitimate voters who largely don't vote GOP.

Voter impersonation is nonexistent because it is, how to put this gently, farking stupid: Hey, I'll lie about who I am at the voting booth and risk thousands of dollars in fines and a felony conviction to adulterate one lousy vote! Hey, I'll organize a criminal conspiracy which must involve hundreds, possibly thousands, of conspirators to have any possibility of success! Nobody that stupid would ever be put in a charge of a vote fraud operation.
 
2014-04-30 12:44:37 AM

Robin Hoodie: DemonEater: Robin Hoodie: Photo IDs are free in Wisconsin, not having one just seems weird.

also the 7th circuit will probably overturn Adelman for the thousandth time

One difficulty for some poor people is having the supporting documentation to get one.  A birth certificate is typically the main way to do so for your first one at least, and you'd be amazed how many people don't have theirs or lost it.  Getting your birth certificate replaced is *not* free.  Also, check this shiat out, from the CDC.gov site, for Wisconsin residents who need a copy of their birth certificate:

Customers should use a state birth certificate application form to apply.  A copy of a valid photo ID and a signature is required of the applicant. Personal check or money order should be made payable to State of Wisconsin Vital Records.

So to get your birth certificate so you can get a photo ID, you require... a valid photo ID.

that's just terrible, not to mention living in wisconsin without a photo ID would just be hell. How would you drink?


We don't need id to drink here.

 
2014-04-30 12:46:20 AM

that bosnian sniper: Triple Oak: The debate that I was responding to was about the First Amendment right of free speech, not the Constitutional Right to vote. I like the research though.

Yes -- and for the conversation to have any relevance to the topic at hand, voting must first have be considered a form of speech protected by the First Amendment.

It's not.


Yeah, he was just trying to debate other constitutional rights. It's not related of course and he still can't, like the defendants in this case, prove there is fraud the way the law says there is, but he tried. And was shot down.
 
2014-04-30 12:46:32 AM

Vodka Zombie: KIA:

Why don't these apples taste anything like these oranges?


Ummm...those are potatoes.
 
2014-04-30 12:56:09 AM

Ishidan: Vodka Zombie: KIA:

Why don't these apples taste anything like these oranges?


Ummm...those are potatoes.


GODS DAMMIT I DEMAND THAT MY POTATOES TASTE EXACTLY LIKE FRIED SKINKS ON A STICK!!
 
2014-04-30 12:57:37 AM

Triple Oak: KIA: Why do I have to go through a background check to buy a gun?

You must find a legal way to obtain a gun through the laws of this country. The process of obtaining a gun is not a constitutional right. Having that gun, once you have gone through the process of legally obtaining one, is a right.


The same thing could be said about voting by voter-ID supporters. "Voting, once you've gone through the process of proving you're eligible, is a right."
 
2014-04-30 01:02:07 AM

MrHappyRotter: Study it out sheeple, study it out.


img.photobucket.com
 
2014-04-30 01:05:46 AM

erik-k: "THE DEFENDANTS COULD NOT POINT TO A SINGLE INSTANCE OF KNOWN VOTER IMPERSONATION OCCURRING IN WISCONSIN AT ANY TIME IN THE RECENT PAST."


That should be the end of it, but we live in a post evidence society.
 
2014-04-30 01:06:22 AM

FlyinS: Brown people are VOTING. Right here in the USA. And their votes even count as much as god-fearin' whitefolk. Can you imagine???


Not only that, but they're voting wrong!  How dare they vote according to the circumstances that we bigots (who aren't bigots, YOU'RE THE BIGOTS, take that Dimocrap!) put them in so we have to think about our attitudes!

It is interesting to see the trolls coming out.  Did Scott take the Flavor of the Month spot, hence why the trolls are now earning their paycheck trying to whiteknight his shiatty attempt to retain power even through he can't farking run a state?
 
2014-04-30 01:07:44 AM
Just curious:  when all of these laws are struck down as being unconstitutional, what is the Republicans next action?  We know they're not going to change their tune, and filtering possible voters sick of their shiat really isn't feasible for a political party. What is next for them?
 
2014-04-30 01:08:13 AM

100 Watt Walrus: Triple Oak: KIA: Why do I have to go through a background check to buy a gun?

You must find a legal way to obtain a gun through the laws of this country. The process of obtaining a gun is not a constitutional right. Having that gun, once you have gone through the process of legally obtaining one, is a right.

The same thing could be said about voting by voter-ID supporters. "Voting, once you've gone through the process of proving you're eligible, is a right."


That's not the debate they're having, though.
 
2014-04-30 01:15:02 AM

Robin Hoodie: DemonEater: Robin Hoodie: Photo IDs are free in Wisconsin, not having one just seems weird.

also the 7th circuit will probably overturn Adelman for the thousandth time

One difficulty for some poor people is having the supporting documentation to get one.  A birth certificate is typically the main way to do so for your first one at least, and you'd be amazed how many people don't have theirs or lost it.  Getting your birth certificate replaced is *not* free.  Also, check this shiat out, from the CDC.gov site, for Wisconsin residents who need a copy of their birth certificate:

Customers should use a state birth certificate application form to apply.  A copy of a valid photo ID and a signature is required of the applicant. Personal check or money order should be made payable to State of Wisconsin Vital Records.

So to get your birth certificate so you can get a photo ID, you require... a valid photo ID.

that's just terrible, not to mention living in wisconsin without a photo ID would just be hell. How would you drink?


You'd drink the same as the rest of us. A lot.
Go to store or bar;
Ask for something;
Exchange green pieces of paper what you asked for.

The only places that really card are grocery stores, stadiums, and the bars downtown and on the east side of milwaukee.

That said, i doubt you need an ID for anything in Milwaukee's district 7.
 
2014-04-30 01:38:40 AM
I find it interesting that Walker has said before that Voter ID laws is his number 1 priority, and will have a special session just to try and create another Voter ID law.

But jobs? Economy? nope, not worth the time
 
2014-04-30 01:39:22 AM

FloridaFarkTag: Considering we need ID to do just about everything, it is a joke, and, direct attempt to commit vote fraud, by not requiring ID to vote.



1.  Decide to commit in-person voter fraud.
2.  Go to polls.
3.  Know the name and address of someone who is already registered.
4.  Say you are that person.
5.  Hope that person has not already voted.
6.  Repeat frequently enough to make a difference, committing a felony each time.


It's just so simple and totally plausible.

And apparently foolproof, since there have never been any reports of someone showing up to vote and discovering that an impersonator has already voted using their name.
 
2014-04-30 01:59:13 AM

FloridaFarkTag: This ruling will get overturned in higher courts, which have already ruled states can require ID to vote

Considering we need ID to do just about everything, it is a joke, and, direct attempt to commit vote fraud, by not requiring ID to vote.

Most states provide free official state ID cards to poor folks, so that is liberal BS that "Voter ID laws discriminate against the poor"


durr
 
2014-04-30 02:01:47 AM

Mrtraveler01: Mr. Coffee Nerves: Ahh, yes, Voter ID. It's like hearing a story from your aunt's plumber's cousin's Facebook about how one house down the block has a termite and then burning the entire town to the ground

If the Democrats were smart they'd propose a Voter ID law that provides state-issued ID cards at birth starting this year and goes fully into zero-exception, no card no vote effect in 2032. How could the GOP object? It would definitely solve their unsupported-by-fact claims of rampant "in person" voter fraud, so any other reason to move faster would be proof they're only worried about the "wrong" people voting.

Or we could do what every other country does and have an ID card issued free of charge on the national level.

But that would make too much sense.


Of course I haven't studied every other country out, but Denmark, for one, does not issue free photo ID cards.
If I need photo ID (which I can't actually recall ever having needed for anything besides passing through national borders, and I don't even need it for that within the Schengen area anymore), I have a passport that cost me about a hundred bucks years ago.
 
2014-04-30 02:04:05 AM

floor: Mrtraveler01: BSABSVR: you are a puppet: Why is my ID required to prove my age to bartenders?

Why is my ID the best way to crush and snort lines?

Why is ID software no longer releasing Doom games?

Why do I need life insurance?

Why do I have to register before I can post on FARK?

Why does James Bond need a license to kill?

Why I laugh?

Why do liberals not complain about Paula Zahn's show on ID?

Why do Freudian liberals think black people can only possess ego and superego?

Why does Taco Bell think their Breakfast Taco was actually a good idea?

Why is getting drunk not a right?


Why do kids love the taste of Cinnamon Toast Crunch?
 
2014-04-30 02:05:04 AM

KIA: Triple Oak: Voter ID law supporters SHOULD have to prove how rampant a problem this is (it isn't) and then prove that the proposed laws would stop it completely (stop something already pretty much non-existent).

I keep hearing everyone say that (yes, I understand that this particular judge said it too) but seems to be a hotly contested issue.  There have been a number of instances of referrals for prosecution and even convictions, deportations, ect.:

http://www.usnews.com/debate-club/is-voter-fraud-a-real-problem

http://www.truethevote.org/news/how-widespread-is-voter-fraud-2012-f ac ts-figures

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/368234/voter-fraud-weve-got-pr oo f-its-easy-john-fund

http://www.dailytarheel.com/article/2014/04/study-finds-765-cases-of -n c-voter-fraud-in-2012-election

There have been indictments of public officials in charge of registration and voting:

http://www.walb.com/story/16104533/12-indicted-for-voter-fraud

Sheriffs have called people to interfere with the voting process:

http://theadvocate.com/news/applatestnews/8757760-123/investigation- la unched-into-voter-fraud

So, it is -a- problem but you contend it isn't severe enough to merit public action.  Statistically, there are a lot of things that aren't large enough to actually merit public action - mass shootings, texting while driving deaths, drownings in swimming pools - but people try to force action anyway.  Are they villains for trying to solve a problem even if it is a small one?


Your first example of this "hotly contested issue" of voter fraud discusses voter registration, like a case of someone registering as Mickey Mouse. What does that have to do with actual voting or voter fraud? And the article just asks questions...ending with, "Is voter fraud a real problem?" Shockingly, they found 3 people who said yes, and three who said no. So, this is a BS story, and one not particularly well chosen by you, because it doesn't even support your argument. It's not a hotly contested issue, because people can't even agree that it's worth contesting at all.

And I didn't bother checking the rest of your links, because they are probably just as relevant.

So, well done.
 
2014-04-30 02:06:24 AM

zenobia: Georgia's law was upheld after they put in a provision for elections offices to make free voter photo IDs for anyone who wants one.


And then you gotta spend a bunch of money to get to the DMV and back home again (if you're poor, you might not have a car).  And then there's the expense for the birth certificate.

At least that's how it is in NC.  I applied for a copy of my birth certificate.  It took $39, a pay stub and an electric bill, and they sent it by snail mail.  You can skip the $15 "expedite fee" and pay only $24, but they'll take their sweet time if you do that.  YMMV if you were born in another state.

The transportation cost might actually favor the Democrats.  Democrats are more likely to live in cities and have access to a bus system.

NC offers a "free" voter ID.  But if you can swing $39 for a birth certificate and maybe $30 for round trip cab fare, you can probably come up with the $10 for the regular ID card that you can use to buy beer and such.  (A driver's license is closer to $30.)

Officially, NC won't require voter ID until 2016, though word is they'll ask when you go to vote this year and just let you through if you say no.

Bottom line:  if you need ID, *get it now*.  Don't wait until the election is next week.
 
2014-04-30 02:07:55 AM

KIA: So, it is -a- problem


Yeah according to you and a pile of worthless links. I'd rather just turn it around on you and point out how you want to keep brown people from voting.
 
2014-04-30 02:09:34 AM

kkinnison: I find it interesting that Walker has said before that Voter ID laws is his number 1 priority, and will have a special session just to try and create another Voter ID law.

But jobs? Economy? nope, not worth the time


Seems to fit his pattern.
 
2014-04-30 02:25:29 AM

moothemagiccow: The question we really should be asking is "how can we improve turnout?" and "how can we make voting more convenient"



A good start would be to do what every other civilized country has done: make voter registration automatic and universal, and make Election Day a federal holiday.

Won't ever happen though, because if everyone voted Republicans could never win any election ever again.
 
2014-04-30 02:27:38 AM

DeltaPunch: floor: Mrtraveler01: BSABSVR: you are a puppet: Why is my ID required to prove my age to bartenders?

Why is my ID the best way to crush and snort lines?

Why is ID software no longer releasing Doom games?

Why do I need life insurance?

Why do I have to register before I can post on FARK?

Why does James Bond need a license to kill?

Why I laugh?

Why do liberals not complain about Paula Zahn's show on ID?

Why do Freudian liberals think black people can only possess ego and superego?

Why does Taco Bell think their Breakfast Taco was actually a good idea?

Why is getting drunk not a right?

Why do kids love the taste of Cinnamon Toast Crunch?


Why ask why?
 
2014-04-30 02:28:55 AM

Alphax: kkinnison: I find it interesting that Walker has said before that Voter ID laws is his number 1 priority, and will have a special session just to try and create another Voter ID law.

But jobs? Economy? nope, not worth the time

Seems to fit his pattern.


I thought he created a bunch of jobs when he busted the unions.
 
2014-04-30 02:39:53 AM
Why do republicans want to suppress minority votes? Well the answer is obvious if you are thinking of the leadership. But what about the average republican citizen? Based on the anecdotal evidence I have gathered from my conservative relatives, my suspicion is that it doesn't have nearly as much to do with fear of fraud as it does a desire to punish those they feel are deserving of it.

If someone can't be bothered to get a proper ID, they must be lazy. Therefore no vote for you!

It seems bonkers, but listening to my relatives pontificate, and knowing them the way I do, that's the conclusion I've reached. Think about it, it certainly fits with their other reactions to various issues.

Drug addict? Why should they get treatment instead of jail time?

Terrorists? Why shouldn't we torture them?

Birth control? Why should women be able to avoid pregnancy?

That's just off the top of my head. But it's clear republicans generally have a fixation on punishing those they perceive as having moral failings, regardless of whether it's helpful or harmful to society.

/My apologies if that was not particularly coherent, I've been awake too long and I've been drinking.
 
2014-04-30 02:49:32 AM

Hollie Maea: moothemagiccow: The question we really should be asking is "how can we improve turnout?" and "how can we make voting more convenient"


A good start would be to do what every other civilized country has done: make voter registration automatic and universal, and make Election Day a federal holiday.


Maybe your'e just being stingy with the "civilized country" label, but I don't think most countries make election days holidays. I know my country doesn't, and neither do our neighbour nations, and we're all reasonably civilized on a good day.
Some of them hold general elections on Sundays, but that doesn't necessarily increase voter participation, and you're not the only country that decided that Tuesday is perfect for that kind of thing.

As long as authorities aren't putting up unreasonable administrative hurdles or physically preventing people from casting their ballot, high voter turnout has far more to do with whether the general population is interested and engaged in political issues on a day-to-day basis, than with logistics.
 
2014-04-30 02:55:32 AM

Almet: KIA: Why is my ID used to force me to pay taxes?

It's not.

Why is my ID required to open a bank account?

Opening a bank account is not a constitutional right
  Why do I need an ID / license to drive?

Driving is not a constitutional right.

Why do I need proof of insurance?

Assuming you're talking about auto insurance, driving is not a constitutional right.

Why do I have to register for W-9s at work?

That is a condition of employment, a choice, and again, not a constitutionally guaranteed right.

Why do people need licenses to do particular jobs?

That is a condition of employment, a choice, and again, not a constitutionally guaranteed right.


Why do I need a special ID to bare a firearm?
 
2014-04-30 03:08:56 AM

taurusowner:
Why do I need a special ID to bare a firearm?


Mmmm... Gun porn!
Also: Naked Gun.
 
2014-04-30 03:09:40 AM
A fresh ID in the lefty state 'o' California costs something like 25 bucks these days, AKA a weeks worth of grub, roll 'o' toilet paper & cat food for the furry bastard.

I renewed it via DMV website and got it snail mailed to me within a week.

I am fortunate in that I actually have an operational pooter, a semi-operational local post office, and can afford to pay the bill for my ISP.

The last time I renewed it, it cost me SIX dollars and I'd gone in person to one of the local DMV offices. Yeah, it's been a while.

In addition to that noise, I have a silly little card someplace that I got for free when I sent in my voter's registration form waaaayyy back in 2003 that says I'm a registered voter in whatever blah whoopdeedoo party.

In Cali I have the opportunity to absentee-vote by mail, if I wish. There have been times when I have hand carried the sealed envelope to a physical polling place, went through the piddling check of voter records, and placed my paper vote in the lockbox.

I have also used those infernal Diebold electronic gadgets to vote.

It is WRONG to deprive American citizens of the right to vote, and I don't give a tinker's damn whether they vote for Pussy Galore or Richard Sh*t Nixon.
 
2014-04-30 03:17:19 AM
Btw, Kittypie, is a skink anything like a skinke, or did you mean "fried skunks on a stick", in which latter case I'm not interested?
 
2014-04-30 03:18:31 AM

Flashlight: The next thing to go down should be the requirement to show ID when buying a gun from a dealer. Or should the poor and minorities not be allowed to defend themselves? If you believe people should be required to provide ID to buy a firearm how do you justify your classism and racism?


People committing voter fraud don't leave dozens of children dead in voter fraud rampages?
 
2014-04-30 03:25:08 AM

Triple Oak: KIA: Why do I have to go through a background check to buy a gun?

You must find a legal way to obtain a gun through the laws of this country. The process of obtaining a gun is not a constitutional right. Having that gun, once you have gone through the process of legally obtaining one, is a right.


So you're saying a "well-regulated militia" needs rules of some sort?
 
2014-04-30 03:35:26 AM
It's just not fair that ALEC spends so much time and effort to buy these Voter ID laws, and the silly courts seem to think they can strike them down.

Next thing you know, somebody will want to investigate ALEC as being an undeclared lobbying organization masquerading as a non-profit group to launder corporate money for corporate interests.
 
2014-04-30 03:36:43 AM

Kittypie070: I am fortunate in that I actually have an operational pooter


TMI
 
2014-04-30 03:39:47 AM

Dansker: Btw, Kittypie, is a skink anything like a skinke, or did you mean "fried skunks on a stick", in which latter case I'm not interested?


Skinks are good eatin'.
 
2014-04-30 03:46:28 AM

Dansker: Btw, Kittypie, is a skink anything like a skinke, or did you mean "fried skunks on a stick", in which latter case I'm not interested?


upload.wikimedia.org = skinke????


The blue-tailed critter below is definitely not a skunk. They really don't get fried and put on sticks either.

www.bearriverranch.com
 
2014-04-30 03:54:03 AM

Kittypie070: Dansker: Btw, Kittypie, is a skink anything like a skinke, or did you mean "fried skunks on a stick", in which latter case I'm not interested?

[upload.wikimedia.org image 169x140] = skinke????


Yes, please! I'l take it on a stick, to go.

The blue-tailed critter below is definitely not a skunk. They really don't get fried and put on sticks either.

Lizards, eh? Well, in that case, I'm afraid that I am definitely so interested.
 
2014-04-30 04:58:42 AM

Triple Oak: KIA: Triple Oak: The process of obtaining a gun is not a constitutional right.

Fascinating.  So, your right to free speech is conditional on not having your mouth glued shut?

Speech comes in more forms than just the words that come from your mouth. Stop being obtuse or show me where the Constitution says your right to vote is dependent on having an ID.


It doesn't have to - voting rights can be curtailed without being unconstitutional, and Voter ID laws could be valid, or other ways of regulating voting to ensure votes cast could be legitimate. However to be constitutional there would have to be a compelling government interest to have the law (i.e. proof of significant amounts of voter fraud) and the law would have to be the narrowest feasible way of fixing it (which could be debatable even if evidence of voter fraud in large numbers was found).
 
2014-04-30 05:23:24 AM

Guntram Shatterhand: Just curious:  when all of these laws are struck down as being unconstitutional, what is the Republicans next action?  We know they're not going to change their tune, and filtering possible voters sick of their shiat really isn't feasible for a political party. What is next for them?


To try to repeal the voting rights act.
 
2014-04-30 05:45:11 AM

DemonEater: Robin Hoodie: Photo IDs are free in Wisconsin, not having one just seems weird.

also the 7th circuit will probably overturn Adelman for the thousandth time

One difficulty for some poor people is having the supporting documentation to get one.  A birth certificate is typically the main way to do so for your first one at least, and you'd be amazed how many people don't have theirs or lost it.  Getting your birth certificate replaced is *not* free.  Also, check this shiat out, from the CDC.gov site, for Wisconsin residents who need a copy of their birth certificate:

Customers should use a state birth certificate application form to apply.  A copy of a valid photo ID and a signature is required of the applicant. Personal check or money order should be made payable to State of Wisconsin Vital Records.

So to get your birth certificate so you can get a photo ID, you require... a valid photo ID.


If one doesn't have one's birth certificate then how does one prove that one is not an illegal immigrant?
 
2014-04-30 06:01:20 AM
Good.

It's obvious what these Voter ID laws are really about, and it's not preventing voter fraud as none of the disingenuous assholes pushing these laws can provide any evidence of widespread voter fraud at the polls.
 
2014-04-30 06:43:46 AM

Kittypie070: Cats shoot people who think they can take away cat's inalienable right to vote.

/rubber band guns


pbs.twimg.com
This is how Kennedy won the 1960 election people.

Read a damn history book.
 
2014-04-30 07:26:34 AM

bikerific: It's just so simple and totally plausible.

And apparently foolproof, since there have never been any reports of someone showing up to vote and discovering that an impersonator has already voted using their name.


Here's your damned proof! ;-)

viz.cwrl.utexas.edu
 
2014-04-30 07:39:28 AM

KIA: Why is my ID used to force me to pay taxes?

Why is my ID required to open a bank account?

Why do I need an ID / license to drive?

Why do I need proof of insurance?

Why do I have to register for W-9s at work?

Why do people need licenses to do particular jobs?


Why can't I carry a bazooka onto an aircraft, as the constitution guarantees me the right to do?  Why are my basic human freedoms denied me?  Why can't I protect myself, and everyone else on the plane, from bad guys?
 
2014-04-30 07:59:54 AM
It's too bad that the GOP doesn't spend as much of an effort getting people signed up for Photo ID as they do on preventing people from actually voting. It would be really simple for them to corner this issue if they started campaigns to get everything in place before they slammed the door shut on the millions of American's without Photo ID.

Spending a few years getting people ready to vote would make harsher ID laws easily acceptable, but once again it seems like the GOP wants to make it harder to get the ID, and harder to vote. Which is a bit like making sex education and birth control harder to get, as well as making abortion illegal.
 
2014-04-30 08:00:45 AM

fusillade762: DeltaPunch: floor: Mrtraveler01: BSABSVR: you are a puppet: Why is my ID required to prove my age to bartenders?

Why is my ID the best way to crush and snort lines?

Why is ID software no longer releasing Doom games?

Why do I need life insurance?

Why do I have to register before I can post on FARK?

Why does James Bond need a license to kill?

Why I laugh?

Why do liberals not complain about Paula Zahn's show on ID?

Why do Freudian liberals think black people can only possess ego and superego?

Why does Taco Bell think their Breakfast Taco was actually a good idea?

Why is getting drunk not a right?

Why do kids love the taste of Cinnamon Toast Crunch?

Why ask why?


i.imgur.com Why are estuaries suddenly a trending topic?
 
2014-04-30 08:03:11 AM
Act of fist judges!

Act of fist judges!
 
2014-04-30 08:18:18 AM
If Republicans are so concerned about ensuring that we're able to accurately identify people for the purpose of exercising their constitutional rights, they should make some effort to ensure that everyone has a god damned ID.

At this point I'm ready for federal legislation requiring that everyone get either a bar code tattooed on their wrist or an RFID chip implanted.
 
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