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(Townhall)   Mexicans should embrace Cinco de Mayo being turned into drunken debauchery, just as the Irish embrace St Patty's Day   (townhall.com) divider line 85
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2014-04-29 04:09:50 PM
If U.S. News & World Report had a category for "Most Overly Sensitive Institution of Higher Learning," Dartmouth College would win in a landslide.

Dude has never heard of Brown?

They wanted to serve chips and salsa - not perform a Mexican hat dance.

Dude has never heard of Dartmouth, either.
 
2014-04-29 04:26:03 PM
Yeah, better to downplay the whole "kill Whitey" angle...
 
2014-04-29 04:40:40 PM
I've got a whiskey holiday, a tequila holiday.   I guess Mardi Gras could serve as a rum holiday, what do we have for vodka?  We need a Russian or Polish holiday.
 
2014-04-29 04:44:41 PM

EvilEgg: I've got a whiskey holiday, a tequila holiday.   I guess Mardi Gras could serve as a rum holiday, what do we have for vodka?  We need a Russian or Polish holiday.


That would be May Day in Finland.  Everybody in Helsinki is blind by May 2nd.
 
2014-04-29 04:50:43 PM
It's a holiday to celebrate a Mexican military victory over the French. That's like holding a victory parade for drawing a walk in Beer League Softball.
 
2014-04-29 05:01:17 PM
So, the whiniest f*ckers on the planet think other people should stop whining?

/ay yi yi
 
2014-04-29 05:01:49 PM
Townhall vs. PC oversensitive harpy.

A quien gana, perdiamos.
 
2014-04-29 05:04:50 PM
I happen to be a white guy and I do strive to be culturally sensitive.

Yes, I can really tell. With comments like:

Ms. Hernandez got hotter than a red chili pepper

Faster than you could say "pass the salsa," the Greeks pulled the plug on their fiesta - apparently horrified that they had offended a single student - as in uno.

Sweet Lord, lady. They wanted to serve chips and salsa - not perform a Mexican hat dance.

Do yourself a favor parents, save your pesos. Don't let your kids attend this overly sensitive, muy loco liberal school.
 
2014-04-29 05:08:51 PM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: It's a holiday to celebrate a Mexican military victory over the French. That's like holding a victory parade for drawing a walk in Beer League Softball.


Didn't even win the war... Just that one battle, forcing the French to regroup and then Mexico got its ass kicked.
 
2014-04-29 05:10:03 PM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: It's a holiday to celebrate a Mexican military victory over the French. That's like holding a victory parade for drawing a walk in Beer League Softball.


Kathleen Madigan:
My neighbor was having a Cinco de Mayo party, and he invited me over. I didn't know what it was all about - in St Louis, we just called it "Tuesday", you know? - so I ask him. He goes "It's a celebration of our military victory." So I say: "Well, who'd you beat?"

And he goes: "The French."

So I say "Well, who didn't?" Not much of an accomplishment there, Hector, but if it means half-price margaritas, I'm all about your Cinco de Mayo.
 
2014-04-29 05:24:11 PM

God Is My Co-Pirate: EvilEgg: I've got a whiskey holiday, a tequila holiday.   I guess Mardi Gras could serve as a rum holiday, what do we have for vodka?  We need a Russian or Polish holiday.

That would be May Day in Finland.  Everybody in Helsinki is blind by May 2nd.


Ouch, getting back in the saddle by may 5th has got to play hell on ones liver.
 
2014-04-29 05:27:15 PM
bigcitydreamss.weebly.com
What about Cinco de Quatro?
 
2014-04-29 05:29:31 PM
The founder of the Boloco burrito chain attended business school at Dartmouth and its menu is such a paragon of multiculturalism that my girlfriend refuses to call their products "burritos" because she believes that word should only apply to Mexican or Tex-Mex cuisine.

In other words, cultural appropriation is apparently okay if you do it in bulk.
 
2014-04-29 05:31:04 PM
"St Paddy's". Bad subby.
 
2014-04-29 05:32:15 PM

FishyFred: In other words, cultural appropriation is apparently okay if you do it in bulk.


Sounds good; now if you'll excuse me, I'll join my fellow Swedes in watching Inuyasha while wearing NBA jerseys.
 
2014-04-29 05:33:54 PM
I was into being Mexican BEFORE it was cool!!!

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2014-04-29 05:36:59 PM

hippyneil: "St Paddy's". Bad subby.


This. No Irishman calls it St Patty's
 
2014-04-29 05:38:49 PM
snarky article aside... REALLY? A group wanted to make Mexican food and drink while being punny with the word fiesta and that makes them worse than Hitler?

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2014-04-29 05:40:07 PM
FTFA:
And could somebody please explain to me how eating a burrito and sipping a Pina Colada is somehow racially offensive? Is Ms. Hernandez trying to say that non-Mexicans should not be allowed to feast upon South of the Border cuisine.

1. Pina Coladas are not mexican....
2. You missed the point about why she was upset (though maybe a bit too upset)

The event isn't so much being racially offensive so much as being culturally insensitive

The author needs to understand the differences.
 
2014-04-29 05:41:41 PM
I don't really care what Mexicans embrace or don't, but what does Saint Patricia have to do with anything?
 
2014-04-29 05:42:24 PM

Representative of the unwashed masses: snarky article aside... REALLY? A group wanted to make Mexican food and drink while being punny with the word fiesta and that makes them worse than Hitler?

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On the one hand, I agree that they should be able to hold a party with Mexican food on Cinco de Mayo.

On the other hand, we're talking about college kids here. And more specifically, frats and sororities. Odds are it will start with food and non-alcoholic drinks and then devolve into this:

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2014-04-29 05:42:25 PM

commisioner: hippyneil: "St Paddy's". Bad subby.

This. No Irishman calls it St Patty's


Lá Fhéile Pádraig sona daoibh.
 
2014-04-29 05:43:52 PM

kidgenius: FTFA:
And could somebody please explain to me how eating a burrito and sipping a Pina Colada is somehow racially offensive? Is Ms. Hernandez trying to say that non-Mexicans should not be allowed to feast upon South of the Border cuisine.

1. Pina Coladas are not mexican....
2. You missed the point about why she was upset (though maybe a bit too upset)

The event isn't so much being racially offensive so much as being culturally insensitive

The author needs to understand the differences.


so what was the culturally insensitive part?
 
2014-04-29 05:44:11 PM

scottydoesntknow: Representative of the unwashed masses: snarky article aside... REALLY? A group wanted to make Mexican food and drink while being punny with the word fiesta and that makes them worse than Hitler?

[31.media.tumblr.com image 500x271]

On the one hand, I agree that they should be able to hold a party with Mexican food on Cinco de Mayo.

On the other hand, we're talking about college kids here. And more specifically, frats and sororities. Odds are it will start with food and non-alcoholic drinks and then devolve into this:

[cdn2.thegloss.com image 580x348]


OMG those girls look like they are having fun!  Off with their heads!
 
2014-04-29 05:44:26 PM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: It's a holiday to celebrate a Mexican military victory over the French. That's like holding a victory parade for drawing a walk in Beer League Softball.



What day is that, and is there alcohol involved?
 
2014-04-29 05:46:57 PM
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This isn't unique to St. Patty's Day or Cinco de Mayo. People have been using holidays as an excuse to drink, eat, and be merry. Regardless of the symbolism the day represents.
 
2014-04-29 05:46:58 PM

FishyFred: The founder of the Boloco burrito chain attended business school at Dartmouth and its menu is such a paragon of multiculturalism that my girlfriend refuses to call their products "burritos" because she believes that word should only apply to Mexican or Tex-Mex cuisine.


Besides, "burrito" is Spanish for "small burro."
 
2014-04-29 05:47:48 PM
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2014-04-29 05:48:25 PM

Robin Hoodie: kidgenius: FTFA:
And could somebody please explain to me how eating a burrito and sipping a Pina Colada is somehow racially offensive? Is Ms. Hernandez trying to say that non-Mexicans should not be allowed to feast upon South of the Border cuisine.

1. Pina Coladas are not mexican....
2. You missed the point about why she was upset (though maybe a bit too upset)

The event isn't so much being racially offensive so much as being culturally insensitive

The author needs to understand the differences.

so what was the culturally insensitive part?


""There are various problematic structures and ideologies regarding a Cinco de Mayo-inspired event and I am sure that we, as a Dartmouth community, could learn from the extensive literature written about the Americanization of Cinco de Mayo and its construction as a drinking holiday in the United States, cultural appropriate and the inappropriate usage of cultural clothing, and the exploitation of groups of people and cultures for the sake of business opportunities," she wrote in an email that appeared in the student newspaper."
 
2014-04-29 05:50:49 PM
kidgenius:

The event isn't so much being racially offensive so much as being culturally insensitive

The author needs to understand the differences.


What? Given that you can be insensitive, resulting in offending someone, it seems to be a distinction without a difference.

Regardless...how do you conclude either one is in play here? Why is it offensive and/or insensitive?
 
2014-04-29 06:02:04 PM
i885.photobucket.com
 
2014-04-29 06:05:47 PM
I'm surprised there are enough students at Dartmouth on May 5th to have a party.

Our finals were over by then and we were usually asked to leave or move to the summer session dorms.  Aside from pending graduates and their families, campus was generally deserted.

We started in late August before Labor day.

Last day of finals for Spring 2014 is May 1st.  Residence halls close for 1st year students May 2nd and for all students May 9th.  It'll be a fun party with only RA's waiting to inspect dorm rooms and select slackers left on campus.
 
2014-04-29 06:06:44 PM

commisioner: hippyneil: "St Paddy's". Bad subby.

This. No Irishman calls it St Patty's


That's due to all the slurring.
 
2014-04-29 06:07:38 PM

PluckYew: I'm surprised there are enough students at Dartmouth on May 5th to have a party.

Our finals were over by then and we were usually asked to leave or move to the summer session dorms.  Aside from pending graduates and their families, campus was generally deserted.

We started in late August before Labor day.

Last day of finals for Spring 2014 is May 1st.  Residence halls close for 1st year students May 2nd and for all students May 9th.  It'll be a fun party with only RA's waiting to inspect dorm rooms and select slackers left on campus.


Dartmouth goes all the way to June!!  Yuck!! We'd already completed May-mester by then.
 
2014-04-29 06:09:18 PM

hippyneil: "St Paddy's". Bad subby.


Came here to say this. You're quicker with your internetz.
 
2014-04-29 06:10:05 PM
We're Not Going to Protest! We're Not Going to Protest!
 
2014-04-29 06:10:12 PM

scottydoesntknow: Representative of the unwashed masses: snarky article aside... REALLY? A group wanted to make Mexican food and drink while being punny with the word fiesta and that makes them worse than Hitler?

[31.media.tumblr.com image 500x271]

On the one hand, I agree that they should be able to hold a party with Mexican food on Cinco de Mayo.

On the other hand, we're talking about college kids here. And more specifically, frats and sororities. Odds are it will start with food and non-alcoholic drinks and then devolve into this:

[cdn2.thegloss.com image 580x348]


that's a lot of tuition!
 
2014-04-29 06:19:50 PM
How about white people stop trying to tell everybody else how to feel about things? Or would that be too oppressive for them?
 
2014-04-29 06:20:13 PM

scottydoesntknow: On the one hand, I agree that they should be able to hold a party with Mexican food on Cinco de Mayo.


Chips and salsa ain't Mexican food.  Well, it is, but only in the most tenuous way, as it was invented to feed to tourists from the States.

/In my neighborhood there are Mexican places (run by Hispanics) and "Mexican places" (run by white people).  It's probably Guatemalans in the kitchen in both.
//I love diversity
 
2014-04-29 06:22:05 PM
*reads the headline*

I thought that was the point?

The Irish-Euro whitey gets St Patrick's Day, we Latinos get Cinco De Mayo, and the asians get the Cherry Blossom Fest

/seriously....the Japanese know how to get tanked in broad daylight
 
2014-04-29 06:24:52 PM
C'mon! ..Can we all just agree that Cinco de Mayo should be about getting drunk and hating the French?

/Yes I have plenty of family in Monterrey, N.L. and DF.
//Yes they feel exactly the same as I do.
 
2014-04-29 06:34:33 PM

kbronsito: Mr. Coffee Nerves: It's a holiday to celebrate a Mexican military victory over the French. That's like holding a victory parade for drawing a walk in Beer League Softball.

Didn't even win the war... Just that one battle, forcing the French to regroup and then Mexico got its ass kicked.


It's something interesting to say, that sure. France has lost quite a few wars. Before WWI, I can think of one where it didn't take all of farkin' Europe united in order to bring France down, and that was the Franco-Prussian War, where  the Prussians had insane amounts of training, better tech and doctrine, and had possibly the best army in Europe at the time.

The idea that French suck at military seems mainly to come from WWII, when the Maginot Line - which pretty much every Western tactical and strategic thinker at the time, outside of Germany, thought was a good idea - failed, and the superior German Army routed the French and the British. Had their been a landbridge, England would have gone the same way.

Sorry. The whole "French suck at war" thing gets my gears going.
 
2014-04-29 06:35:52 PM
I am of Irish descent (the highest form of patriotic) and I celebrate St. Paddy's because I like to drink.

I really, really, really like to drink.

A lot.
 
2014-04-29 06:37:41 PM
Thanks to incessant right wing whining calendars are now obsolete.

Whining about Mexicans?
Oh it must be close to cinco de mayo. Need to plan a fun party.

Whining about black people?
It's February already! Gotta get a valentines day gift.

Whining about "happy holidays"?
Gotta work on my gift list.
 
2014-04-29 06:38:07 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: How about white people stop trying to tell everybody else how to feel about things? Or would that be too oppressive for them?


most all things that occur in nature that are white are the most fragile, delicate, vulnerable things you will ever tip toe around.
 
2014-04-29 06:46:05 PM

EvilEgg: I've got a whiskey holiday, a tequila holiday.   I guess Mardi Gras could serve as a rum holiday, what do we have for vodka?  We need a Russian or Polish holiday.


You call it Mardi Gras, we Poles call it Fat Tuesday...or regular Tuesday...or any Tuesday...or any day that ends in "Y"
 
2014-04-29 06:48:11 PM
I'm always amused when it's September 15-16th and there's barely any celebration at all. And this was back when I lived in Texas. It wasn't until I lived in Latin America that I finally saw an actual celebration of independence.
 
2014-04-29 06:51:39 PM
If you go through life looking for things to be offended by, you will find them, but you will live a longer, happier life if you get over yourself and knock that shiat off.
 
2014-04-29 07:00:09 PM

Dwight_Yeast: scottydoesntknow: On the one hand, I agree that they should be able to hold a party with Mexican food on Cinco de Mayo.

Chips and salsa ain't Mexican food.  Well, it is, but only in the most tenuous way, as it was invented to feed to tourists from the States.


Nope, corn chips were invented by a guy in L.A. to get rid of the scraps from his tortilla factory.
 
2014-04-29 07:01:16 PM
paddynotpatty.com
 
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