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(Townhall)   So there are more Americans living in poverty under Obama than under his predecessor. If he were a Republican, this reality would be widely acknowledged   (townhall.com) divider line 477
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2014-04-29 08:14:29 AM
just curious, but it couldn't be because we're still working on getting out of a pretty terrible recession, could it?

and that we have accepted that wages won't go up because "fark the working guy"?

and that if we try and make a fuss for better wages to match inflation, we get called a deadbeat and moocher?

surely, you can't be serious
 
2014-04-29 08:16:14 AM
So Townhall is cool with raising the minimum wage to solve the problem? Riiiiiiight.
 
2014-04-29 08:19:26 AM
These poor people just need tax breaks. Oh, and make sure you reduce all taxes up the line, because it would be unfair otherwise.
 
2014-04-29 08:19:26 AM
Yeah because Obama's been given a free ride by his critics so far.
 
2014-04-29 08:22:20 AM
This would be a good time to cut food stamps

/the savings will be that much greater
 
2014-04-29 08:27:19 AM
Clearly the Job Creators have let us down.  Time to raise their taxes until they shape up.
 
2014-04-29 08:27:26 AM
Criminal deportations are way up too. If this was a republican presidency KKKlownhall wouldn't shut up about it.

See this is fun and easy.
 
2014-04-29 08:27:47 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: This would be a good time to cut food stamps

/the savings will be that much greater


Well, only if you also reduce top tax brackets and eliminate capital gain taxes, since those are bad because reasons.
 
2014-04-29 08:29:42 AM
So Bill Clinton is the greatest president?
 
2014-04-29 08:30:48 AM
Why wouldn't he want to build his constituency?

Is this your first day in politics, subby?
 
2014-04-29 08:34:15 AM
When the recession hit, I remember every major right-wing talking head and publication starting their analysis at the Democrats taking the House in 2006. Strange that they don't seem to put any blame on the House now...
 
2014-04-29 08:34:22 AM
I don't understand...why don't they just ask their parents for some money and start a business?

Oh yeah, because under 0bama, they get $4000 a week in welfare, so why bother?

Sometimes I wonder...should we force the Negro to pick cotton?  I'm just wondering.
 
2014-04-29 08:45:42 AM

somedude210: just curious, but it couldn't be because we're still working on getting out of a pretty terrible recession, could it?



The "Great Recession" ended Q1 2009.  That we are still working our way out of it 5 years later speaks more to the incompetence of the current policies than to anything that was done beforehand.
 
2014-04-29 08:47:30 AM
So, since Town Hall seems so concerned about the plight of the poor, perhaps they should start targeting all of the GOP Congressmen who have been blocking every attempt by the Obama administration to pass an effective jobs bill or stimulus package.
 
2014-04-29 08:53:05 AM

Lucky LaRue: somedude210: just curious, but it couldn't be because we're still working on getting out of a pretty terrible recession, could it?


The "Great Recession" ended Q1 2009.  That we are still working our way out of it 5 years later speaks more to the incompetence of the current policies than to anything that was done beforehand.


Actually, it speaks to the fact that the Republicans in Congress have managed to jam up the works so effectively that nothing can get done to address the issues.  Obama can only do so much by executive order.
 
2014-04-29 08:54:32 AM
Some historical perspective, with recessions marked.

images.flatworldknowledge.com
 
2014-04-29 08:55:17 AM

TuteTibiImperes: Lucky LaRue: somedude210: just curious, but it couldn't be because we're still working on getting out of a pretty terrible recession, could it?


The "Great Recession" ended Q1 2009.  That we are still working our way out of it 5 years later speaks more to the incompetence of the current policies than to anything that was done beforehand.

Actually, it speaks to the fact that the Republicans in Congress have managed to jam up the works so effectively that nothing can get done to address the issues.  Obama can only do so much by executive order.


The Democrats control the executive branch and 1/2 the legislative branch of government.  Blaming its failures on Republican recalcitrance is only going to get you so far before the voters start questioning the party's competence and it's ability to govern effectively.
 
2014-04-29 08:55:30 AM
Townhall sounds concerned
 
2014-04-29 08:55:49 AM

Lucky LaRue: somedude210: just curious, but it couldn't be because we're still working on getting out of a pretty terrible recession, could it?


The "Great Recession" ended Q1 2009.  That we are still working our way out of it 5 years later speaks more to the incompetence of the current policies than to anything that was done beforehand.


YEAH! because no matter how deep the hole was, if we aren't out of it in 2 years it must be the policy. Tell us, exactly how deep was the hole, anyway? Hint- at least 4 times worse than anything since the great depression.
 
2014-04-29 08:59:23 AM

Lucky LaRue: TuteTibiImperes: Lucky LaRue: somedude210: just curious, but it couldn't be because we're still working on getting out of a pretty terrible recession, could it?


The "Great Recession" ended Q1 2009.  That we are still working our way out of it 5 years later speaks more to the incompetence of the current policies than to anything that was done beforehand.

Actually, it speaks to the fact that the Republicans in Congress have managed to jam up the works so effectively that nothing can get done to address the issues.  Obama can only do so much by executive order.

The Democrats control the executive branch and 1/2 the legislative branch of government.  Blaming its failures on Republican recalcitrance is only going to get you so far before the voters start questioning the party's competence and it's ability to govern effectively.


Yes, passing laws is really that simple. There's no filibuster. No secret holds. Obama hasn't had more nominations for positions blocked than all the other Presidents combined. Republicans didn't vow to fight everything he's tried to do.
 
2014-04-29 08:59:46 AM

Lucky LaRue: TuteTibiImperes: Lucky LaRue: somedude210: just curious, but it couldn't be because we're still working on getting out of a pretty terrible recession, could it?


The "Great Recession" ended Q1 2009.  That we are still working our way out of it 5 years later speaks more to the incompetence of the current policies than to anything that was done beforehand.

Actually, it speaks to the fact that the Republicans in Congress have managed to jam up the works so effectively that nothing can get done to address the issues.  Obama can only do so much by executive order.

The Democrats control the executive branch and 1/2 the legislative branch of government.  Blaming its failures on Republican recalcitrance is only going to get you so far before the voters start questioning the party's competence and it's ability to govern effectively.


so it isn't Republican recalcitrance? How should the Democrats in office in the Senate and the Executive ignore the tard brigade in the House?
 
2014-04-29 09:01:43 AM

Dinki: Lucky LaRue: somedude210: just curious, but it couldn't be because we're still working on getting out of a pretty terrible recession, could it?


The "Great Recession" ended Q1 2009.  That we are still working our way out of it 5 years later speaks more to the incompetence of the current policies than to anything that was done beforehand.

YEAH! because no matter how deep the hole was, if we aren't out of it in 2 years it must be the policy. Tell us, exactly how deep was the hole, anyway? Hint- at least 4 times worse than anything since the great depression.


Uh.. Obama's had 5 years to dig out.  Not 2.  And the result is that there are more people living in poverty, now.
 
2014-04-29 09:03:07 AM
Welcome to Townhall Tuesday.
 
2014-04-29 09:04:08 AM

Peter von Nostrand: Yes, passing laws is really that simple. There's no filibuster. No secret holds. Obama hasn't had more nominations for positions blocked than all the other Presidents combined. Republicans didn't vow to fight everything he's tried to do.


dr_blasto: so it isn't Republican recalcitrance? How should the Democrats in office in the Senate and the Executive ignore the tard brigade in the House?


I am not saying it isn't due to Republican ass-hattery.  I am saying that the Democrats have made about as much hay blaming Republicans as they are likely to get out of it.  They are starting to sound like ineffectual whiners, and nobody wants to be associated with a team of whiners.
 
2014-04-29 09:07:11 AM

Lucky LaRue: Uh.. Obama's had 5 years to dig out. Not 2. And the result is that there are more people living in poverty, now.


What part of "4 times worse than any recession since the great depression" Did you fail to understand? Oh and by every measure, we are doing much better than when Obama took office.
 
2014-04-29 09:07:37 AM

somedude210: just curious, but it couldn't be because we're still working on getting out of a pretty terrible recession, could it?


Nope. Economy was going great when Dubya left. Everyone had a job. (except lazy people)  And we were at peace. And our 401(k)s never stopped growing.The stock market was doing so much better. We could pray in school for the smiting of our mortal non-Christian enemies, the Democrats. No one had abortions and children stayed virgins until at least the third year of marriage. And most importantly: No terrorist had ever attacked America like happens every damn day now
 
2014-04-29 09:09:05 AM

Dinki: Lucky LaRue: Uh.. Obama's had 5 years to dig out. Not 2. And the result is that there are more people living in poverty, now.

What part of "4 times worse than any recession since the great depression" Did you fail to understand? Oh and by every measure, we are doing much better than when Obama took office.


Except for poverty, you mean, right?
 
2014-04-29 09:11:59 AM
excuse me, is the GOP giving a fark about the poor all of a sudden?
 
2014-04-29 09:13:56 AM

Peter von Nostrand: Townhall sounds concerned


Well, except about Republicans in Congress.
 
2014-04-29 09:15:26 AM

Peter von Nostrand: Townhall sounds concerned


Maybe you should be more concerned about the growth of poverty in our country, too?
 
2014-04-29 09:16:37 AM

Lucky LaRue: The Democrats control the executive branch and 1/2 the legislative branch of government.


Controlling 1/2 of the legislative branch means you control none of the legislative branch.
 
2014-04-29 09:16:55 AM

Lucky LaRue: Obama's had 5 years to dig out.  Not 2.


He really is a bad dictator, isn't he?
 
2014-04-29 09:19:28 AM

TwoHead: Clearly the Job Creators have let us down.  Time to raise their taxes until they shape up.


Dear Job Creators,

We've noticed that you haven't created enough jobs recently, so we are lowering your taxes in order to help you hire more people. Should you fail to do so, we will be forced to lower your taxes yet again.

Yours truly,
The Champions of the Little Guy
 
2014-04-29 09:26:08 AM

Lucky LaRue: Peter von Nostrand: Townhall sounds concerned

Maybe you should be more concerned about the growth of poverty in our country, too?


Laser like focus on jobs blame.

That's all this piece is.
 
2014-04-29 09:26:11 AM
"Why hasn't Obama fixed this problem we care very little about?!"
 
2014-04-29 09:29:31 AM

kronicfeld: Controlling 1/2 of the legislative branch means you control none of the legislative branch.


not to mention the fact that they don't even really "control" the senate, thanks to the ever-present fillibuster.
 
2014-04-29 09:34:44 AM

kronicfeld: Lucky LaRue: The Democrats control the executive branch and 1/2 the legislative branch of government.

Controlling 1/2 of the legislative branch means you control none of the legislative branch.


THIS.  If one party's entire goal is to block whatever the President proposes, there is not much that can be done.  He can do some things by Executive Order, but that just leads to the opposition calling him a constitution-hating Communist strongman.

And the GOP has applied their Obmacare strategy across the board: biatch about Obama's proposals, do everything you can to block or disrupt them, talk vaguely about your ideas being better, but by all means, don't actually propose anything realistic.
 
2014-04-29 09:35:30 AM
There will be poor always. The EITC was a way to keep a large number of people out of poverty. But when the wage doesn't match inflation... and it costs more to feed and shelter your family, they are going to be "poor" and that number of poor will grow. That is why Obama has been looking at the minimum wage so much. He's trying to get the tide to come in and help lift the boats.
 
2014-04-29 09:38:44 AM
Get rid of the Republican control of the House and the impacted colon that the Senate has become and I'm certain you would see a big improvement in the bottom and middle groups.

You'd also see overall business receipts go up, general economic improvements and the like. Republican tax and economic policies are farking cancer.
 
2014-04-29 09:39:56 AM

Lucky LaRue: Peter von Nostrand: Yes, passing laws is really that simple. There's no filibuster. No secret holds. Obama hasn't had more nominations for positions blocked than all the other Presidents combined. Republicans didn't vow to fight everything he's tried to do.

dr_blasto: so it isn't Republican recalcitrance? How should the Democrats in office in the Senate and the Executive ignore the tard brigade in the House?

I am not saying it isn't due to Republican ass-hattery.  I am saying that the Democrats have made about as much hay blaming Republicans as they are likely to get out of it.  They are starting to sound like ineffectual whiners, and nobody wants to be associated with a team of whiners.


I agree that the Democrats have shown a general lack of balls in the past, but due to the way our government is set up holding a slim majority in one half of one branch means that a party determined to clog things up can effectively do so.

Since the GOP has been completely unwilling to compromise (give us everythig we want and kneel before us doesn't count as an offer for compromise) Obama's options are pretty much maintain the deadlock or make sure their asshattery is exposed so that they can hopefully be removed from office.

Of course, since the Supreme Court also has a conservative bias, they've been making ruling after ruling that have allowed the GOP to hold on to power far longer than they ever should have.
 
2014-04-29 09:40:22 AM

silo123j: There will be poor always. The EITC was a way to keep a large number of people out of poverty. But when the wage doesn't match inflation... and it costs more to feed and shelter your family, they are going to be "poor" and that number of poor will grow. That is why Obama has been looking at the minimum wage so much. He's trying to get the tide to come in and help lift the boats.


Or, as Townhall calls it, socialism.
 
2014-04-29 09:41:31 AM
Lucky

You're smart. Quit pretending to be retarded and just go find another thread. We can post bikini pics and talk about tequila.
 
2014-04-29 09:42:00 AM

Mugato: Yeah because Obama's been given a free ride by his critics so far.


Obama's the worse one.  he lives in Government funded housing with the mother of his 2 black children.
 
2014-04-29 09:44:22 AM

Lionel Mandrake: kronicfeld: Lucky LaRue: The Democrats control the executive branch and 1/2 the legislative branch of government.

Controlling 1/2 of the legislative branch means you control none of the legislative branch.

THIS.  If one party's entire goal is to block whatever the President proposes, there is not much that can be done.  He can do some things by Executive Order, but that just leads to the opposition calling him a constitution-hating Communist strongman.

And the GOP has applied their Obmacare strategy across the board: biatch about Obama's proposals, do everything you can to block or disrupt them, talk vaguely about your ideas being better, but by all means, don't actually propose anything realistic.


Why should I put my trust in a political party that controls the executive branch and the Senate and yet are only able to tell me why they can't do anything because of the other party controls the rabble-rousing House.  These people are supposed to be leaders.  If the only way they can govern effectively is by fiat, then they aren't very good at governing and need to be replaced by people with more competency.
 
2014-04-29 09:45:31 AM

doglover: Lucky

You're smart. Quit pretending to be retarded and just go find another thread. We can post bikini pics and talk about tequila.


I don't know if I would ever qualify someone who enjoys pretending to be retarded as smart. Isn't it just like a slightly different flavor of retarded.
 
2014-04-29 09:46:21 AM

doglover: Lucky

You're smart. Quit pretending to be retarded and just go find another thread. We can post bikini pics and talk about tequila.


Mmm.. Tila Tequila.. nothing sexier than a hobbit in a bikini..
 
2014-04-29 09:58:57 AM
Mona Charen

Thats the joke
 
2014-04-29 09:59:55 AM

Lucky LaRue: Why should I put my trust in a political party that controls the executive branch and the Senate and yet are only able to tell me why they can't do anything because of the other party controls the rabble-rousing House. These people are supposed to be leaders. If the only way they can govern effectively is by fiat, then they aren't very good at governing and need to be replaced by people with more competency.


If Obama were a better leader, he'd be able to convince his vehement opposition to do what he wants. Why won't he just leeeeeaaaaad???
 
2014-04-29 10:05:29 AM
More living in poverty, therefore we need to gut social programs and buy more tanks.
 
2014-04-29 10:05:31 AM

kronicfeld: Lucky LaRue: Why should I put my trust in a political party that controls the executive branch and the Senate and yet are only able to tell me why they can't do anything because of the other party controls the rabble-rousing House. These people are supposed to be leaders. If the only way they can govern effectively is by fiat, then they aren't very good at governing and need to be replaced by people with more competency.

If Obama were a better leader, he'd be able to convince his vehement opposition to do what he wants. Why won't he just leeeeeaaaaad???


I don't know why you guys are bothering.  It's like throwback day for republican arguments.

You motherfarkers are sweating to the oldies.
 
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