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2014-04-29 02:18:33 PM  
For those that don't know the difference between city limits and mailing addresses....

http://www.kennesaw-ga.gov/form-center/category/21-city-maps?downloa d= 1735:city-limits-ap

PDF of city limits...  white area is county land, therefore not in city limits.  and as others said, the (not enforced) gun ownership ordinance, is for homeowners, not businesses.

/works and lives in city limits
 
2014-04-29 02:21:11 PM  
Was at Columbine 15 years ago watching on the sidelines.  Heard nothing but news like this for the last 15 years.

You know what I thought about when I heard this todaY?  I wondered if it would delay my PS4 I shipped yesterday for service.
 
2014-04-29 02:23:38 PM  

Lorelle: ChaosStar: Lorelle: ChaosStar: Lorelle: ChaosStar: Lorelle: Click Click D'oh: Lorelle: Funny, it didn't stop the shooting that occurred today, nor did it stop a mass shooting in 2010 that resulted in 3 deaths.

You had to go back to 2010 to find 3 firearms deaths and you are really going to trumpet this as the failure of firearms proliferation to create safety?  Meanwhile, in Chicago...

If you're going to claim that more guns = less crime, then why is crime and the number of shootings so high in Chicago??

Because it's the criminals that have the guns?
I know you knew this and were just being intellectually dishonest, but I figured I'd answer anyway.

You believe that every gun owner in Chicago is a criminal??

I do not, and again, you knew this, but please continue with your logical fallacies in an attempt to make your assertion that guns are bad valid.

Some days,  it's like shooting fish in a barrel. :D

I point out you're not as clever as you think you are and you take a victory lap?
Ok, I'll go along with it I suppose. I support the Special Olympics too.

It totally went over your head, didn't it? No worries, that's what makes it so much fun. :)

mizchief: Lorelle: mizchief: Lorelle: sugar_fetus: Lorelle: JackieRabbit: Holy crap. I live in Cobb County and this is the first I have heard of this (though I do ignore local news media). For those who may not know, Kennesaw is a town that has an ordinance that requires every household to own a gun.

This is the place that gun worshippers always point to as being a "success" because of that law. Funny, it didn't stop the shooting that occurred today, nor did it stop a mass shooting in 2010 that resulted in 3 deaths.

You do realize that the airport, and the FedEx facility are *not* in the city of Kennesaw? Kennesaw laws do not apply there.

Try again.

Then please explain this:

COBB COUNTY, GA (CBS46) -
A man believed responsible for a shooting at a FedEx warehouse in Kennesaw was found dead inside the building with ...


Ok you got me, nice troll. I even went to the trouble to pull up a map to verify that it was actually outside the city limits. Not really that hard to figure out, only so many major FedEx warehouses within the area.

I typically 

Lorelle: ChaosStar: Lorelle: ChaosStar: Lorelle: ChaosStar: Lorelle: Click Click D'oh: Lorelle: Funny, it didn't stop the shooting that occurred today, nor did it stop a mass shooting in 2010 that resulted in 3 deaths.

You had to go back to 2010 to find 3 firearms deaths and you are really going to trumpet this as the failure of firearms proliferation to create safety?  Meanwhile, in Chicago...

If you're going to claim that more guns = less crime, then why is crime and the number of shootings so high in Chicago??

Because it's the criminals that have the guns?
I know you knew this and were just being intellectually dishonest, but I figured I'd answer anyway.

You believe that every gun owner in Chicago is a criminal??

I do not, and again, you knew this, but please continue with your logical fallacies in an attempt to make your assertion that guns are bad valid.

Some days,  it's like shooting fish in a barrel. :D

I point out you're not as clever as you think you are and you take a victory lap?
Ok, I'll go along with it I suppose. I support the Special Olympics too.

It totally went over your head, didn't it? No worries, that's what makes it so much fun. :)

mizchief: Lorelle: mizchief: Lorelle: sugar_fetus: Lorelle: JackieRabbit: Holy crap. I live in Cobb County and this is the first I have heard of this (though I do ignore local news media). For those who may not know, Kennesaw is a town that has an ordinance that requires every household to own a gun.

This is the place that gun worshippers always point to as being a "success" because of that law. Funny, it didn't stop the shooting that occurred today, nor did it stop a mass shooting in 2010 that resulted in 3 deaths.

You do realize that the airport, and the FedEx facility are *not* in the city of Kennesaw? Kennesaw laws do not apply there.

Try again.

Then please explain this:

COBB COUNTY, GA (CBS46) -
A man believed responsible for a shooting at a FedEx warehouse in Kennesaw was found dead inside the building with ...


Did that big block of text make you feel any less stupid?
 
2014-04-29 02:28:09 PM  

Lorelle: It totally went over your head, didn't it? No worries, that's what makes it so much fun. :)


Oh certainly, because using a standard celebratory catch phrase and then pretending you said it in a ironic fashion when you're called out on it clearly goes far beyond my comprehension you wily little hipster you.
It's certainly not your typical MO for gun threads in any way is it?
 
2014-04-29 02:30:12 PM  
Guns don't kill people.  People with guns kill people.
 
2014-04-29 02:37:27 PM  

Lorelle: BTW, you didn't answer the question. In which city did this happen.?


Dude, we love you, but you should just stop.

There's thousands of Unincorporated Places in the US.  I live in one.  Glenn Dale, MD.  We have a Post Office, but no government.  Next town over is Bowie.  There's some forty or fifty houses in the space between us that are not within the Glenn Dale area, nor within Bowie's city limits.  Where are those houses located?  They all have mail service, though.  The ones that are in the Glenn Dale zip code get their mail from the Glenn Dale Post Office.  The ones outside it (in some cases on the opposite side of the same street!) get their mail from Bowie.  But they are not subject to the taxation authority of Bowie, nor do the Bowie police have jurisdiction there.  Bowie's trying to annex them (and Glenn Dale as well) but none of us live in Bowie, now.
 
2014-04-29 02:38:30 PM  
Let's see...........export jobs overseas for the past 30 years,etc, destroying the middle class and causing huge unemployment and disenfranchising the voter so that he no longer has any input into what used to be his government which is owned by the wealthy and big business = increase in gun and other violence.


whoda' thunk???
 
2014-04-29 02:40:09 PM  

darcsun: Was at Columbine 15 years ago watching on the sidelines.  Heard nothing but news like this for the last 15 years.

You know what I thought about when I heard this todaY?  I wondered if it would delay my PS4 I shipped yesterday for service.



you won't feel that way when it comes to your doorstep one day................
 
2014-04-29 02:44:58 PM  
Maybe i'll get lucky one day and 'muricans will kill themselves off and other nations can use this extinct Nation as a warning about unchecked greed and selfishness. a warning about what happens when big business and the wealthy take over The People's government for their own selfish greedy interests.


iow, Representative Democracy good.  Plutocracy/Fascism bad.
 
2014-04-29 02:45:18 PM  

Deucednuisance: Lorelle: BTW, you didn't answer the question. In which city did this happen.?

Dude, we love you, but you should just stop.

There's thousands of Unincorporated Places in the US.  I live in one.  Glenn Dale, MD.  We have a Post Office, but no government.  Next town over is Bowie.  There's some forty or fifty houses in the space between us that are not within the Glenn Dale area, nor within Bowie's city limits.  Where are those houses located?  They all have mail service, though.  The ones that are in the Glenn Dale zip code get their mail from the Glenn Dale Post Office.  The ones outside it (in some cases on the opposite side of the same street!) get their mail from Bowie.  But they are not subject to the taxation authority of Bowie, nor do the Bowie police have jurisdiction there.  Bowie's trying to annex them (and Glenn Dale as well) but none of us live in Bowie, now.


Jeez Louise, even when you spell it out for these people, they STILL can't see...
 
2014-04-29 02:48:24 PM  

lostcat: If people haven't already soiled themselves over gun violence, they aren't paying attention.


That sounds like a sane reaction
 
2014-04-29 02:48:48 PM  

Facetious_Speciest: Babwa Wawa

FWIW, place I've been off-post in the US has had a higher ratio of carrying to non-carrying people than a military base.

That's kinda the point. You won't run into random people carrying weapons once you get in. No one can carry if it's not part of their job at the time, very much unlike the civilian world.


I do not know where you hang out, but the overall density of armed people is higher on post than off post in every place I've ever lived.
 
2014-04-29 02:49:50 PM  
The Big Business/Wealthy owned "news" media are going to use these shoot 'em up events as an excuse to take guns away from the other 98% of 'muricans. just like 9/11 was used to take away much of our Freedoms these days.....

that way, these same people will own all your asses even more.  you won't have a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out of. and if you threaten that We The People will take our government back, they'll say 'with what, a slingshot?'

ain't Freedom great!
 
2014-04-29 02:51:48 PM  
Babwa Wawa

I do not know where you hang out, but the overall density of armed people is higher on post than off post in every place I've ever lived.

I live in the American South, in one of the most violent cities in the nation. Pendleton (as an example) was far safer but had (to appearances) no more firearms being carried on a regular basis.
 
2014-04-29 02:59:04 PM  

Linux_Yes: Let's see...........export jobs overseas for the past 30 years,etc, destroying the middle class and causing huge unemployment and disenfranchising the voter so that he no longer has any input into what used to be his government which is owned by the wealthy and big business = increase in gun and other violence.


whoda' thunk???


Except that violent crime - including those committed with a firearm - have gone down substantially in the last 20+ years. So, yeah, your point is wrong.
 
2014-04-29 03:01:43 PM  

Click Click D'oh: Marcintosh: You are absolutely correct - there is no end in sight because there will be no end to this because there is always money in this. people have been murdering each other since we learned how to pick up sticks.

FTFY

ok then, just keep pullin' that trigger because a trigger's the same as a stick.

My prior comments stand without correction.
 
2014-04-29 03:04:26 PM  
This is 'murica in about 20 years.........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GKqWHl7xn8   (SFW)
 
2014-04-29 03:04:33 PM  

AngryDragon: KidneyStone: IamSoSmart_S_M_R_T: BeatrixK: I'm just so very glad there was a responsible gun owner there to save the day...

Responsible gun owners don't carry where it's illegal to carry, and a FedEx facility located at an airport is most likely a gun free zone.

It is most definitely a gun free zone.

Of course it is.  Gun free zones are the result of people wanting to "feel" safe, without actually doing anything to make themselves safer.

The results of this paper support the hypothesis that concealed
handgun or shall issue laws reduce the number of multiple victim
public shootings. Attackers are deterred and the number of people
injured or killed per attack is also reduced, thus for the first time
providing evidence that the harm from crimes that still occur can be
mitigated. - University of Chicago Law School, John M. Olin Law & Economics Working Paper No. 73

The arguments for them are emotional and nothing else.  The growing body of evidence strongly supports that "gun-free zones" cost lives.


And i completely agree with that.

The local news here (I live fairly close) just said he was carrying a shotgun and nothing else.  Gotta love the early "he was carrying an assault rifle" reports.  Prolly a tactical shotgun but it's still just a shotgun.
 
2014-04-29 03:12:53 PM  

ChaosStar: lostcat: I don't understand why some gun fans act like people are stupid for categorizing guns based on things other than pure operational specifications. That's what humans do.

Sorta like categorizing people based on things other than their actions?
You know, things like race, gender, religion, sexual orientation... you're perfectly ok with that right? It being what humans do and all.


It's more like this: Link


Except you replace "whore's uniform" with "military style assault rifle with CQC features"


If you do not understand the plain truth that owning and using military style weapons makes it look like you only want your gun to kill people with and nothing else, and it is perfectly sane, reasonable and ordinary for others to mistrust you because of that, then you are either arguing from bad faith or you are as dumb as a box of hammers.


If I see a riced out hatch back with a vTec sticker on it, i assume the owner wants to race.


If I see a roided out meathead in Tap Out gear I assume he wants to fight


If I see a club kid dressed like a club kid and acting strangely, I assume they are on drugs.


If I see 3-7 African American men of adult age standing around in a poor neighborhood with conspicuous gang-oriented fashion choices, I do not assume they are the local Kiwanis fundraising.


If I see a woman in blue scrubs and a name tag ID walk by, I assume she is a doctor or a nurse.


If I see a man in an Armed Forces uniform I assume he is a member of the military


If I see a rifle that looks like the one that man is supposed to carry as part of his job, I assume its purpose is to help out with that job: kill humans as efficiently as possible when needed.


oh sorry, it's "only a semi-automatic" battlefield weapon. that makes allllllll the difference.
 
2014-04-29 03:18:47 PM  

Lorelle: Deucednuisance: Lorelle: BTW, you didn't answer the question. In which city did this happen.?

Dude, we love you, but you should just stop.

There's thousands of Unincorporated Places in the US.  I live in one.  Glenn Dale, MD.  We have a Post Office, but no government.  Next town over is Bowie.  There's some forty or fifty houses in the space between us that are not within the Glenn Dale area, nor within Bowie's city limits.  Where are those houses located?  They all have mail service, though.  The ones that are in the Glenn Dale zip code get their mail from the Glenn Dale Post Office.  The ones outside it (in some cases on the opposite side of the same street!) get their mail from Bowie.  But they are not subject to the taxation authority of Bowie, nor do the Bowie police have jurisdiction there.  Bowie's trying to annex them (and Glenn Dale as well) but none of us live in Bowie, now.

Jeez Louise, even when you spell it out for these people, they STILL can't see...


I'm sure that's why modmins deleted your comments.
 
2014-04-29 03:28:37 PM  

Facetious_Speciest: ChaosStar

FTFA: "He had bullets strapped across his chest like Rambo, a huge assault rifle and he had a knife," Aiken said in a parking lot where employees were gathering not far from their workplace.

To be fair, it's not necessarily Aiken's fault that he's a moron. He was taught that. All criminal shooters are armed with assault rifles and Glocks.

Rather recently, some dictionaries began defining "assault rifle" as, essentially, "weapon that looks scary kinda like what idiots see on the teevee," because that's how many people use it these days, and many people are ignorant of the actual meaning and history of the term. Now, of course, these same idiots can point to the dictionary and say, "see? assault rifle!", all the while ignoring the fact that it's their own ignorance that stimulated such dumbing-down of the language.

It's one of the more amusing twists in the American firearms debate.


I see we're ridiculing people for not noting the exact type and model of gun the crazed lunatic is firing as they flee for their lives now.
 
2014-04-29 03:28:42 PM  

skozlaw: Kit Fister: I bow to your superior intellect and greater knowledge of all things.

You get on with yo' bad self. It's not my fault you didn't actually read any of your own articles before you posted them and I won't apologize for the fact that I did take the time to read them. If you didn't want anybody to actually read them, you shouldn't have posted them.


No, actually, I glanced over them since I thought they were topical based on the summary, and posted them. You're right, my links were in error, and therefore I apologized. Nothing earth-shattering about that.
 
2014-04-29 03:33:00 PM  
HeartBurnKid

I see we're ridiculing people for not noting the exact type and model of gun the crazed lunatic is firing as they flee for their lives now.

Are we? Knock yourself out, I decline to participate. I was pointing out a shift in popular definition driven by ignorance.
 
2014-04-29 03:38:54 PM  

Facetious_Speciest: HeartBurnKid

I see we're ridiculing people for not noting the exact type and model of gun the crazed lunatic is firing as they flee for their lives now.

Are we? Knock yourself out, I decline to participate. I was pointing out a shift in popular definition driven by ignorance.


And that's why you called Ms. Aiken a moron for not realizing the gun was, in fact, not an assault rifle while she was fleeing for her life?

/you also called her a man, but hey, that's a simple mistake anybody can make
//and unlike you, I'm not about to start calling people names for making simple mistakes
 
2014-04-29 03:45:50 PM  

willfullyobscure: ChaosStar: lostcat: I don't understand why some gun fans act like people are stupid for categorizing guns based on things other than pure operational specifications. That's what humans do.

Sorta like categorizing people based on things other than their actions?
You know, things like race, gender, religion, sexual orientation... you're perfectly ok with that right? It being what humans do and all.

It's more like this: Link


Except you replace "whore's uniform" with "military style assault rifle with CQC features"


If you do not understand the plain truth that owning and using military style weapons makes it look like you only want your gun to kill people with and nothing else, and it is perfectly sane, reasonable and ordinary for others to mistrust you because of that, then you are either arguing from bad faith or you are as dumb as a box of hammers.


If I see a riced out hatch back with a vTec sticker on it, i assume the owner wants to race.


If I see a roided out meathead in Tap Out gear I assume he wants to fight


If I see a club kid dressed like a club kid and acting strangely, I assume they are on drugs.


If I see 3-7 African American men of adult age standing around in a poor neighborhood with conspicuous gang-oriented fashion choices, I do not assume they are the local Kiwanis fundraising.


If I see a woman in blue scrubs and a name tag ID walk by, I assume she is a doctor or a nurse.


If I see a man in an Armed Forces uniform I assume he is a member of the military


If I see a rifle that looks like the one that man is supposed to carry as part of his job, I assume its purpose is to help out with that job: kill humans as efficiently as possible when needed.


oh sorry, it's "only a semi-automatic" battlefield weapon. that makes allllllll the difference.


I'm not sure whether to point out that your assumptions mean less than nothing, that your ignorance on the subject hardly qualifies you to speak for everyone else, or that I have you shaded in troll orange so why am I even wasting my time?
/I'm still curious what a "military style" weapon is
 
2014-04-29 03:48:19 PM  

HeartBurnKid: Facetious_Speciest: HeartBurnKid

I see we're ridiculing people for not noting the exact type and model of gun the crazed lunatic is firing as they flee for their lives now.

Are we? Knock yourself out, I decline to participate. I was pointing out a shift in popular definition driven by ignorance.

And that's why you called Ms. Aiken a moron for not realizing the gun was, in fact, not an assault rifle while she was fleeing for her life?

/you also called her a man, but hey, that's a simple mistake anybody can make
//and unlike you, I'm not about to start calling people names for making simple mistakes


Mistaking a shotgun for an "assault rifle" is not a simple mistake. It's a display of ignorant parroting.
 
2014-04-29 03:53:15 PM  
HeartBurnKid

And that's why you called Ms. Aiken a moron for not realizing the gun was, in fact, not an assault rifle while she was fleeing for her life?

That was a bit harsh. I apologise. Aiken is ignorant, not necessarily a moron.
 
2014-04-29 04:02:54 PM  

willfullyobscure: ChaosStar: lostcat: I don't understand why some gun fans act like people are stupid for categorizing guns based on things other than pure operational specifications. That's what humans do.

Sorta like categorizing people based on things other than their actions?
You know, things like race, gender, religion, sexual orientation... you're perfectly ok with that right? It being what humans do and all.

It's more like this: Link


Except you replace "whore's uniform" with "military style assault rifle with CQC features"


If you do not understand the plain truth that owning and using military style weapons makes it look like you only want your gun to kill people with and nothing else, and it is perfectly sane, reasonable and ordinary for others to mistrust you because of that, then you are either arguing from bad faith or you are as dumb as a box of hammers.



So by your logic if you see someone wearing a hoodie with baggy pants, they want people to think they are in a gang and dangerous, so you should call the cops on them right away if you see them with a bulge in their pants that might be a gun?
 
2014-04-29 04:10:23 PM  

mizchief: willfullyobscure: ChaosStar: lostcat: I don't understand why some gun fans act like people are stupid for categorizing guns based on things other than pure operational specifications. That's what humans do.

Sorta like categorizing people based on things other than their actions?
You know, things like race, gender, religion, sexual orientation... you're perfectly ok with that right? It being what humans do and all.

It's more like this: Link


Except you replace "whore's uniform" with "military style assault rifle with CQC features"


If you do not understand the plain truth that owning and using military style weapons makes it look like you only want your gun to kill people with and nothing else, and it is perfectly sane, reasonable and ordinary for others to mistrust you because of that, then you are either arguing from bad faith or you are as dumb as a box of hammers.


So by your logic if you see someone wearing a hoodie with baggy pants, they want people to think they are in a gang and dangerous, so you should call the cops on them right away if you see them with a bulge in their pants that might be a gun?


done and done
http://www.ajc.com/news/news/ksu-reportedly-on-lockdown/nfhky/
 
2014-04-29 04:12:47 PM  

I'm an Egyptian!: AngryDragon: I'm an Egyptian!: Here's what I don't get. A frequent refrain of the supporters of the Second Amendment is the whole "an armed society is a polite society" statement, yet they start on about the shootings in Chicago. What are they shooting with? Bananas? Passion fruit? Pointed sticks? One would assume they were  using firearms. And I think we can also assume that the shootings arent' just one or two shooters. Ergo, many people are armed. I would argue this invalidates that whole argument. Or is that they are more polite as they are shooting? Does it go along the lines of "I'm dreadfully sorry, but I'm now need to shoot you." Can someone explain this to me? What about Somalia? Damn near everyone is armed over there. How about Afghanistan? Or Iraq? They had a helluva lot of arms over there. Hell, there was a huge market in the middle of Sadr City where you could get any weapon you desire? Are those areas more polite?

That refrain is usually reserved for law abiding gun owners.  The vast majority of the inner city shootings are people who are acting in commission of a crime, or are prohibited from possessing firearms altogether.  There are millions of law abiding gun owners who will not once in their lifetimes shoot another person.

So how do you explain the violence in Somalia et al? They're following the laws. If guns were the answer, those areas should be the most polite. Maybe it's not guns that make people polite, and the whole argument is a bunch of crap that can be objectively disproved by looking at the evidence.

Let's look at the rates of firearm ownership in the U.S. Link

Now, let's look at rates of firearm deaths in the U.S. Link.

Well whaddaya know! They seem to match up. Not perfectly, mind you, but pretty damn close. Shocker, that. But at least these are polite deaths.

As a disclaimer, I am a firearm owner. I just hate lazy, mindless arguments.


Feel free to read the document linked in my other post to a study by the University of Chicago.  Or you can just continue to link webpages and draw inadequate conclusions.  Your choice.
 
2014-04-29 04:14:19 PM  

Lorelle: Jeez Louise, even when you spell it out for these people, they STILL can't see...


Posted before I saw you spell it out.  You are a very naughty girl, and should be punished.

SAY IT!
 
2014-04-29 05:10:19 PM  

ChaosStar: HeartBurnKid: Facetious_Speciest: HeartBurnKid

I see we're ridiculing people for not noting the exact type and model of gun the crazed lunatic is firing as they flee for their lives now.

Are we? Knock yourself out, I decline to participate. I was pointing out a shift in popular definition driven by ignorance.

And that's why you called Ms. Aiken a moron for not realizing the gun was, in fact, not an assault rifle while she was fleeing for her life?

/you also called her a man, but hey, that's a simple mistake anybody can make
//and unlike you, I'm not about to start calling people names for making simple mistakes

Mistaking a shotgun for an "assault rifle" is not a simple mistake. It's a display of ignorant parroting.


Facetious_Speciest: HeartBurnKid

And that's why you called Ms. Aiken a moron for not realizing the gun was, in fact, not an assault rifle while she was fleeing for her life?

That was a bit harsh. I apologise. Aiken is ignorant, not necessarily a moron.


Well, if either of you are ever in a situation where you are fleeing an armed lunatic, I hope you retain the presence of mind to correctly identify the type of gun the armed lunatic is waving around as you flee for your life.  Otherwise, you'd be a massive hypocrite.
 
2014-04-29 05:37:40 PM  
HeartBurnKid

Well, if either of you are ever in a situation where you are fleeing an armed lunatic, I hope you retain the presence of mind to correctly identify the type of gun the armed lunatic is waving around as you flee for your life. Otherwise, you'd be a massive hypocrite.

Are you trying to be amusing by misusing the word "hypocrite?"
 
2014-04-29 05:46:20 PM  

MFK: Bit'O'Gristle: dittybopper: Babwa Wawa: KingKauff: When the first mass shooting in a bar or church happens, THEN you can spew the "South-hate"

But I thought the whole point of that law is to prevent mass shootings.

Armed society being polite society and all that sh*t.

I'm willing to bet that:

1. It's illegal to possess a firearm in that area of the airport, and/or
2. It's against FedEx rules to be armed on the job.

So in this case, it's really about an unarmed pocket of society being vulnerable.

In fact, if you go back and look at the vast majority of mass shootings, they usually tend to happen where guns aren't allowed:  Schools, government buildings, and businesses where carrying is forbidden, and jurisdictions where carrying is often quite restricted or banned completely*.

But then, you *KNEW* that already, didn't you?

*The last "no-issue" state in the US was Illinois.  They are now "Shall-Issue".

/i could not agree more.  Mass shootings are generally at "soft targets" where most if not all the victims aren't capable of defending themselves against a firearm wielding wack job.  That is why the shooters pick them.  You wouldn't walk into a bank were all the tellers / public is armed and try to rob it.  You would be riddled in seconds.  They go for soft targets to kill many people before killing themselves.  They are cowards, and take the cowardly way out by killing innocent defenseless victims.

yeah... like military bases.

Look dude, no matter how much you want it, we're not going to arm this society to the teeth just because you people have these weird gun fantasies.


/soldiers in military bases dont walk around armed. You would know this if you had served like i did. The guns are locked up in the armory. Try knowing what you're talking about before you post. You'll look less stupid.
 
2014-04-29 05:55:00 PM  

Lorelle: If you're going to claim that more guns = less crime...


I'm not.
 
2014-04-29 05:56:33 PM  

willfullyobscure: Bit'O'Gristle: .

My daughter is in college, and i bought her a gun to carry in her purse. She now has the option to choose not to be a victim, but...able to defend herself. At least now she has a chance to live, instead of being gunned down like a dog shivering under a table.


What was it? I like a nice .380 PPK for a walk around firearm, it's a fantastic size, anyone can shoot one; and it is was good enough for James Bond, it's good enough for me


/it was indeed a semi auto 380. PPK. Not too big, and she can fire it accurately. Even took the gun courses, and is VERY SAFE with it.  Pocket purse ftw.
 
2014-04-29 06:01:11 PM  
Hey Southerners, how's that "guns for everyone" thing workin for ya?

/idiots
 
2014-04-29 06:01:50 PM  

frontwheeldriver: Bit'O'Gristle: I have said this before, and though some don't agree i don't care. My opinion is as valid as theirs. Here goes.

The guns are out there, there is no getting them back. The world is full of some really farked up people who are just waiting for trigger to set them off to go on a rampage, and kill innocent victims. You have a choice. Choose to be able to defend yourself, and your family / property, or ...choose not to. The police (as i have been one) generally get there too late to do anything about an active shooter. The guy usually guns himself before they get there. So be a victim with NO WAY to defend yourself except cowering like a biatch and hoping not to get shot, or ...running and hiding. Those are your 2 choices.

My daughter is in college, and i bought her a gun to carry in her purse. She now has the option to choose not to be a victim, but...able to defend herself. At least now she has a chance to live, instead of being gunned down like a dog shivering under a table. And isn't it a valid right to be able to defend ourselves? Is there a more natural law that applies to us more? If a guy comes up and slugs you, you are going to use your fists and give him what he just gave you. You're not going to stand there and let him punch you over and over. Why should someone with a gun be any different? In fact, it should be MORE applicable because this person could kill you, not just give you a black eye. The right to defend ourselves is not only a law, its a natural mental stand that one takes in the face of danger.

Hate all you want, but the guns are out there, bought legally or not. The choice to have the ability to defend yourself is totally up to you. If you choose to not have a gun, i totally respect your choice, if you choose to have the ability to defend your life, or other lives, i respect that as well.

So do you choose to defend your life, or your spawn's life by choosing a method which explicitly damages or ends life, innocent or guilty? Do y ...


/yes, youre totally right..its much more human to just lay there and take it. Rolls eyes. Be a victim then, that is your choice.
 
2014-04-29 06:08:54 PM  
FedEx clerk Liza Aiken told CBS46 reporter Craig Bell she saw the shooter, whom she had problems with as recently as last Thursday. "He had bullets strapped across his chest like Rambo, a huge assault rifle and he had a knife," Aiken said in a parking lot where employees were gathering not far from their workplace. Before she could continue, a woman wearing a FedEx jacket told Aiken to stop talking and led her away. Aiken told Bell the shooter was taking a laser package scanner and flashing it in her eyes. She reported to management and he was verbally reprimanded. She also said the shooter didn't see her and is thankful he didn't because if he did, she is not sure what would have happened.
 
2014-04-29 06:37:33 PM  
Q: Why do Americans need to own guns?

A: Other Americans.
 
2014-04-29 06:41:51 PM  

Bit'O'Gristle: willfullyobscure: Bit'O'Gristle: .

My daughter is in college, and i bought her a gun to carry in her purse. She now has the option to choose not to be a victim, but...able to defend herself. At least now she has a chance to live, instead of being gunned down like a dog shivering under a table.


What was it? I like a nice .380 PPK for a walk around firearm, it's a fantastic size, anyone can shoot one; and it is was good enough for James Bond, it's good enough for me

/it was indeed a semi auto 380. PPK. Not too big, and she can fire it accurately. Even took the gun courses, and is VERY SAFE with it.  Pocket purse ftw.


Nice one. Some pistols hang around past their sell by date thanks to nostalgia and hard to fix wrong ideas but that gun is a classic for a reason. As long as they keep making .380 ACP that will be a great platform for any shooter.
 
2014-04-29 06:44:08 PM  

Facetious_Speciest: HeartBurnKid

Well, if either of you are ever in a situation where you are fleeing an armed lunatic, I hope you retain the presence of mind to correctly identify the type of gun the armed lunatic is waving around as you flee for your life. Otherwise, you'd be a massive hypocrite.

Are you trying to be amusing by misusing the word "hypocrite?"


Well, you called this lady "ignorant" and a "moron" for failing to tell a shotgun from an assault rifle in a crisis situation, so I can only assume you have a perfect eidetic memory for gun details in such a situation.  Otherwise, you'd be a hypocrite.  I believe I'm using the word correctly, no matter how badly you choose to misunderstand it.
 
2014-04-29 06:50:12 PM  

HeartBurnKid: Facetious_Speciest: HeartBurnKid

Well, if either of you are ever in a situation where you are fleeing an armed lunatic, I hope you retain the presence of mind to correctly identify the type of gun the armed lunatic is waving around as you flee for your life. Otherwise, you'd be a massive hypocrite.

Are you trying to be amusing by misusing the word "hypocrite?"

Well, you called this lady "ignorant" and a "moron" for failing to tell a shotgun from an assault rifle in a crisis situation, so I can only assume you have a perfect eidetic memory for gun details in such a situation.  Otherwise, you'd be a hypocrite.  I believe I'm using the word correctly, no matter how badly you choose to misunderstand it.


Crisis or not, any idiot should be able to tell the difference between a shotgun and a rifle just by the sound of the discharge.

"Buy a shotgun." --Joe Biden
 
2014-04-29 07:37:58 PM  

Bit'O'Gristle: soldiers in military bases dont walk around armed. You would know this if you had served like i did. The guns are locked up in the armory. Try knowing what you're talking about before you post. You'll look less stupid.


That's true, but the ratio of MP to soldier on post is far higher than police to civilian off post.

Regardless of how it's achieved, and whether sidearms are regulated on post, the reality is that military posts have more armed people per square mile than any place I've seen off post in the US.
 
2014-04-29 08:55:56 PM  

TNel: I'm sure that's why modmins deleted your comments.


Hmmm....so I notice. Apparently they support fun control,

Deucednuisance: Lorelle: Jeez Louise, even when you spell it out for these people, they STILL can't see...

Posted before I saw you spell it out.  You are a very naughty girl, and should be punished.

SAY IT!


Say what?? I didn't say anything bad, just pointed out the glaring truth.
 
2014-04-29 09:27:00 PM  
HeartBurnKid

Ok. You might want to use a dictionary.

/pat, pat
 
2014-04-29 09:40:59 PM  

amindtat: Georgia? What a surprise...


The United States? What a surprise...

What the hell has happened to America? This is seems to be happening every month now. No other advanced society is experiencing these incidents in such numbers.
 
2014-04-29 09:46:11 PM  
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2014-04-29 09:48:40 PM  

MFK: yeah... like military bases.

Look dude, no matter how much you want it, we're not going to arm this society to the teeth just because you people have these weird gun fantasies.


lol, look dude, no matter how much you want it, we're not going to do what the people with no guns demand.
 
2014-04-29 10:38:51 PM  
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