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2014-04-29 12:03:12 PM
Thanks, OBAMA Governor Deal!
 
2014-04-29 12:04:04 PM

Facetious_Speciest: The comment you replied to obviously refers to places where weapons are prohibited from general carry, with only allowed personnel being armed. Exactly like a military base.


Just because it's a tightly regulated environment doesn't mean there aren't a shiat-ton of people on any base who are carrying.

FWIW, place I've been off-post in the US has had a higher ratio of carrying to non-carrying people than a military base.
 
2014-04-29 12:04:21 PM

Pangea: HeartBurnKid: exatron: Babwa Wawa: Why anyone would assume that the location of Cobb County is common knowledge is beyond me.

The story is from a local TV station's website. Presumably, most people in its broadcast area know where it is.

Yes, but it's on the internet, where people from around the world will read it.  It only takes four additional keystrokes (", GA") to solve that problem completely, which seems well worth the effort to me.

/I only know where Cobb County is thanks to the WWF

I get the same feeling every time I see someone display a phone number without an area code.

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m8.i.pbase.com
 
2014-04-29 12:04:38 PM

Facetious_Speciest: When the hell did a background check become some sort of rights restriction?

If you actually look at proposed background check legislation, it fails because it's invariably tied up with other proposals that are objectionable to many people.


^ This. It's like trying to pass a bill law that makes throwing babies off a tower illegal, but then also does a whole lot of other questionable shady shiat some of which isn't even relative to the issue. On the surface, the law is great but it is really just a load of crap masquerading as something righteous. The political climate now, is incredibly disingenuous with agendas that are incongruous with the actual issue or that cause more problems than they fix.
 
2014-04-29 12:05:50 PM

machodonkeywrestler: If you're done with taking advantage of this tragedy for your own purposes, I'd like to point out that FedEx has a strict no weapons policy on its facilities.


When you use a tragedy to stifle or delay discussion, you're taking advantage of it for your own purposes.
 
2014-04-29 12:07:37 PM
Babwa Wawa

FWIW, place I've been off-post in the US has had a higher ratio of carrying to non-carrying people than a military base.

That's kinda the point. You won't run into random people carrying weapons once you get in. No one can carry if it's not part of their job at the time, very much unlike the civilian world.
 
2014-04-29 12:08:14 PM

TNel: So you really think that a armed person could stop a shooter before he pops off a few rounds?  You watch too many movies.  I would be willing to bet that majority of CCW people would duck and run when bullets start.  People are not going to all pull their gun out like some old western movie and the bad guy is going to drop his gun and run out the door.


Very much this. A lot of people think having a gun makes you immune to fear and gives you a 100% clear head in a crisis situation. The truth is that you might forget you have a gun when someone starts shooting. Even trained soldiers and police officers can panic during a firefight.

It's easy to fantasize about what would happen "If I'd been there with a gun" when we have the magic of hindsight to back us up. The same thing happened after the Aurora shooting, and the amount of unrealistic fantasy was so bad, it made Mary Sue Harry Potter fanfiction seem more grounded in reality.
 
2014-04-29 12:08:26 PM

I'm an Egyptian!: Here's what I don't get. A frequent refrain of the supporters of the Second Amendment is the whole "an armed society is a polite society" statement, yet they start on about the shootings in Chicago. What are they shooting with? Bananas? Passion fruit? Pointed sticks? One would assume they were  using firearms. And I think we can also assume that the shootings arent' just one or two shooters. Ergo, many people are armed. I would argue this invalidates that whole argument. Or is that they are more polite as they are shooting? Does it go along the lines of "I'm dreadfully sorry, but I'm now need to shoot you." Can someone explain this to me? What about Somalia? Damn near everyone is armed over there. How about Afghanistan? Or Iraq? They had a helluva lot of arms over there. Hell, there was a huge market in the middle of Sadr City where you could get any weapon you desire? Are those areas more polite?


That refrain is usually reserved for law abiding gun owners.  The vast majority of the inner city shootings are people who are acting in commission of a crime, or are prohibited from possessing firearms altogether.  There are millions of law abiding gun owners who will not once in their lifetimes shoot another person.
 
2014-04-29 12:11:02 PM

Babwa Wawa: machodonkeywrestler: If you're done with taking advantage of this tragedy for your own purposes, I'd like to point out that FedEx has a strict no weapons policy on its facilities.

When you use a tragedy to stifle or delay discussion, you're taking advantage of it for your own purposes.


Except for the fact that I'm not. I'm correcting the previous poster'a incorrect assumption. But if blindly attacking someone post with no respect to reality is what floats your boat,whatever let's you sleep at night.
 
2014-04-29 12:13:45 PM
soporific

...the amount of unrealistic fantasy was so bad, it made Mary Sue Harry Potter fanfiction seem more grounded in reality.

I assure you, sir, that I really was the associate professor of Tantric Studies at Hogwarts when Hermione Granger turned sixteen. It was only through our combined powers that HWMNBN was defeated. This is not fanfic; that muggle fantasy in which "chosen one" Harry Potter saved the day is the real fiction.
 
2014-04-29 12:14:19 PM

TNel: So you really think that a armed person could stop a shooter before he pops off a few rounds?  You watch too many movies.


Don't be a stupid retard.  Of course not.  They would probably get a few pops off.  But the armed person can shoot those bullets out of the air and then shoot a bullet into the end of his gun, effectively plugging it up.
 
2014-04-29 12:18:07 PM

IamSoSmart_S_M_R_T: BeatrixK: I'm just so very glad there was a responsible gun owner there to save the day...

Responsible gun owners don't carry where it's illegal to carry, and a FedEx facility located at an airport is most likely a gun free zone.


It is most definitely a gun free zone.
 
2014-04-29 12:20:33 PM

soporific: Even trained soldiers and police officers can panic during a firefight.


I wish I could dig it up and having issues right now but there was a video that they had someone "packing" a paint ball gun and had them in a school to simulate what would happen if an intruder would bust down the door and start shooting and most of the people couldn't even get the gun out to take a shot.  Was a pretty good video but the gun people bashed it because they shot the guy with the gun second after the "teacher" and they said well it's not fair because they knew he had a gun but it's not a terrible situation because you don't know who will get shot and when.
 
2014-04-29 12:24:36 PM

JungleBoogie: Ahh yes. Another head-case exercising his 2nd Amendment rights (to buy a gun).

"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

This must have seemed like such an obvious need to the Founders way back when. Guess they didn't foresee hand-held machine pistols.

Hard to do a mass shooting with a musket I suppose.


I guess that you do not know that the weapons that they had available were "state of the art" at the time and that it included "military level" firearms of the day, keeping everyone on equal footing was the intent as they had just won independence from a larger, better funded foe. But don't let a little thing like facts spoil your day.
 
2014-04-29 12:28:43 PM

KidneyStone: IamSoSmart_S_M_R_T: BeatrixK: I'm just so very glad there was a responsible gun owner there to save the day...

Responsible gun owners don't carry where it's illegal to carry, and a FedEx facility located at an airport is most likely a gun free zone.

It is most definitely a gun free zone.


Of course it is.  Gun free zones are the result of people wanting to "feel" safe, without actually doing anything to make themselves safer.

The results of this paper support the hypothesis that concealed
handgun or shall issue laws reduce the number of multiple victim
public shootings. Attackers are deterred and the number of people
injured or killed per attack is also reduced, thus for the first time
providing evidence that the harm from crimes that still occur can be
mitigated. - University of Chicago Law School, John M. Olin Law & Economics Working Paper No. 73

The arguments for them are emotional and nothing else.  The growing body of evidence strongly supports that "gun-free zones" cost lives.
 
2014-04-29 12:36:14 PM
Musket mass shooting is easy, in fact that's how they used to do it back then. In masses. Volley fire.

And there were cannons too. And mortars.

Sure, take away all guns from non-governmental people all over the world. Why not? It's not like most of the murders in the world were committed by governments. Right? RIIIIIIIIIIIGHT?

1.bp.blogspot.com

d.ibtimes.co.uk

www.kent.edu

blogs.e-rockford.com
 
2014-04-29 12:51:46 PM

thesubliminalman: willfullyobscure: negligent discharge

What's a "negligent discarge "


A pun on the word, "discharge", as in, the 'negligent discharge of a friearm'. The clue was in how my original post was making fun of a gun rights potato using the No True Scotsman fallacy and was a substitution of the subject(cars instead of firearms), to show the fallacy for a humorous effect.


Another clue was furnished by my copying the form of a common refrain among shooters that post on Fark.com, which is that they have never seen a negligent discharge with their own eyes despite being actively involved in shooting sports from a young age. This too had a humorous component: the juxtaposition of the young age of 9 with the action of driving a car, which is by and large unbelievable.


Taken as a whole, the pun, 'negligent discarge' instead of 'negligent discharge' was supposed to further convey humor at the expense of the original, hapless poster using a poor logical fallacy as an argument.


hth
 
2014-04-29 12:52:37 PM
Let the liberal fear mongering begin.
 
2014-04-29 12:53:41 PM
FTFA: "He had bullets strapped across his chest like Rambo, a huge assault rifle and he had a knife," Aiken said in a parking lot where employees were gathering not far from their workplace.

Also FTFA: Cobb County police Sgt. Dana Pierce said the shooter, who has only been identified as a package handler at the facility, was found with a shotgun.

/sigh
 
2014-04-29 12:55:04 PM

Click Click D'oh: Lorelle: Funny, it didn't stop the shooting that occurred today, nor did it stop a mass shooting in 2010 that resulted in 3 deaths.

You had to go back to 2010 to find 3 firearms deaths and you are really going to trumpet this as the failure of firearms proliferation to create safety?  Meanwhile, in Chicago...


If you're going to claim that more guns = less crime, then why is crime and the number of shootings so high in Chicago??
 
2014-04-29 12:55:07 PM

lamric: MythDragon: Bit'O'Gristle: upndn: What qualifies as a mass shooting? How many people must be shot or is it how many shots are fired? Do people have to die? Hell, it took me half my life to figure out the difference between "a couple" and "a few". I always thought "a mass" is more than "a couple" or "a few" but in regards to shootings, I'm not so sure.

/I need my coffee

/I have always been in the understanding that anything above 4 or five is considered "mass".  As far as i know, there is no fixed number, but generally, i have seen 4 or 5 to be the line.

To further elaborate on this, two people shot is company, and three shootings is  a crowd.


/If you shoot four or more crows, it's called a 'murder'

[img.fark.net image 600x414]


But is there a collective noun for a group of murders?

I think it should be a "slew".

"Chief, there's been a slew of murders on the East Side".
 
2014-04-29 12:57:17 PM

Lorelle: Click Click D'oh: Lorelle: Funny, it didn't stop the shooting that occurred today, nor did it stop a mass shooting in 2010 that resulted in 3 deaths.

You had to go back to 2010 to find 3 firearms deaths and you are really going to trumpet this as the failure of firearms proliferation to create safety?  Meanwhile, in Chicago...

If you're going to claim that more guns = less crime, then why is crime and the number of shootings so high in Chicago??


Because until recently there were very few legally owned guns in Chicago.
 
2014-04-29 12:57:39 PM

Kit Fister: I bow to your superior intellect and greater knowledge of all things.


You get on with yo' bad self. It's not my fault you didn't actually read any of your own articles before you posted them and I won't apologize for the fact that I did take the time to read them. If you didn't want anybody to actually read them, you shouldn't have posted them.
 
2014-04-29 12:58:40 PM

sugar_fetus: Lorelle: JackieRabbit: Holy crap. I live in Cobb County and this is the first I have heard of this (though I do ignore local news media). For those who may not know, Kennesaw is a town that has an ordinance that requires every household to own a gun.

This is the place that gun worshippers always point to as being a "success" because of that law. Funny, it didn't stop the shooting that occurred today, nor did it stop a mass shooting in 2010 that resulted in 3 deaths.

You do realize that the airport, and the FedEx facility are *not* in the city of Kennesaw? Kennesaw laws do not apply there.

Try again.


Then please explain this:

COBB COUNTY, GA (CBS46) -
A man believed responsible for a shooting at a FedEx warehouse in Kennesaw was found dead inside the building with an apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound, according to authorities.

The shooting, which was reported at 5:54 a.m., happened at the FedEx located on Grist Lake Road in Kennesaw.
 
2014-04-29 12:58:58 PM

Lorelle: Click Click D'oh: Lorelle: Funny, it didn't stop the shooting that occurred today, nor did it stop a mass shooting in 2010 that resulted in 3 deaths.

You had to go back to 2010 to find 3 firearms deaths and you are really going to trumpet this as the failure of firearms proliferation to create safety?  Meanwhile, in Chicago...

If you're going to claim that more guns = less crime, then why is crime and the number of shootings so high in Chicago??


Because it's the criminals that have the guns?
I know you knew this and were just being intellectually dishonest, but I figured I'd answer anyway.
 
2014-04-29 01:00:28 PM

ChaosStar: Lorelle: Click Click D'oh: Lorelle: Funny, it didn't stop the shooting that occurred today, nor did it stop a mass shooting in 2010 that resulted in 3 deaths.

You had to go back to 2010 to find 3 firearms deaths and you are really going to trumpet this as the failure of firearms proliferation to create safety?  Meanwhile, in Chicago...

If you're going to claim that more guns = less crime, then why is crime and the number of shootings so high in Chicago??

Because it's the criminals that have the guns?
I know you knew this and were just being intellectually dishonest, but I figured I'd answer anyway.


You believe that every gun owner in Chicago is a criminal??
 
2014-04-29 01:02:04 PM
ChaosStar

FTFA: "He had bullets strapped across his chest like Rambo, a huge assault rifle and he had a knife," Aiken said in a parking lot where employees were gathering not far from their workplace.

To be fair, it's not necessarily Aiken's fault that he's a moron. He was taught that. All criminal shooters are armed with assault rifles and Glocks.

Rather recently, some dictionaries began defining "assault rifle" as, essentially, "weapon that looks scary kinda like what idiots see on the teevee," because that's how many people use it these days, and many people are ignorant of the actual meaning and history of the term. Now, of course, these same idiots can point to the dictionary and say, "see? assault rifle!", all the while ignoring the fact that it's their own ignorance that stimulated such dumbing-down of the language.

It's one of the more amusing twists in the American firearms debate.
 
2014-04-29 01:03:12 PM

Lorelle: ChaosStar: Lorelle: Click Click D'oh: Lorelle: Funny, it didn't stop the shooting that occurred today, nor did it stop a mass shooting in 2010 that resulted in 3 deaths.

You had to go back to 2010 to find 3 firearms deaths and you are really going to trumpet this as the failure of firearms proliferation to create safety?  Meanwhile, in Chicago...

If you're going to claim that more guns = less crime, then why is crime and the number of shootings so high in Chicago??

Because it's the criminals that have the guns?
I know you knew this and were just being intellectually dishonest, but I figured I'd answer anyway.

You believe that every gun owner in Chicago is a criminal??


I do not, and again, you knew this, but please continue with your logical fallacies in an attempt to make your assertion that guns are bad valid.
 
2014-04-29 01:03:37 PM

Lorelle: why is crime and the number of shootings so high in Chicago??


You know it's gone down since they became a shall issue state, right?
 
2014-04-29 01:04:03 PM

Lorelle: You believe that every gun owner in Chicago is a criminal??


You're so pretty.
 
2014-04-29 01:07:53 PM

ChaosStar: Lorelle: ChaosStar: Lorelle: Click Click D'oh: Lorelle: Funny, it didn't stop the shooting that occurred today, nor did it stop a mass shooting in 2010 that resulted in 3 deaths.

You had to go back to 2010 to find 3 firearms deaths and you are really going to trumpet this as the failure of firearms proliferation to create safety?  Meanwhile, in Chicago...

If you're going to claim that more guns = less crime, then why is crime and the number of shootings so high in Chicago??

Because it's the criminals that have the guns?
I know you knew this and were just being intellectually dishonest, but I figured I'd answer anyway.

You believe that every gun owner in Chicago is a criminal??

I do not, and again, you knew this, but please continue with your logical fallacies in an attempt to make your assertion that guns are bad valid.


Some days,  it's like shooting fish in a barrel. :D
 
2014-04-29 01:08:34 PM

Lorelle: sugar_fetus: Lorelle: JackieRabbit: Holy crap. I live in Cobb County and this is the first I have heard of this (though I do ignore local news media). For those who may not know, Kennesaw is a town that has an ordinance that requires every household to own a gun.

This is the place that gun worshippers always point to as being a "success" because of that law. Funny, it didn't stop the shooting that occurred today, nor did it stop a mass shooting in 2010 that resulted in 3 deaths.

You do realize that the airport, and the FedEx facility are *not* in the city of Kennesaw? Kennesaw laws do not apply there.

Try again.

Then please explain this:

COBB COUNTY, GA (CBS46) -
A man believed responsible for a shooting at a FedEx warehouse in Kennesaw was found dead inside the building with an apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound, according to authorities.

The shooting, which was reported at 5:54 a.m., happened at the FedEx located on Grist Lake Road in Kennesaw.


Are you that stupid? City limits aren't the same thing as what people generally call their mailing address.
 
2014-04-29 01:14:28 PM

mizchief: Lorelle: sugar_fetus: Lorelle: JackieRabbit: Holy crap. I live in Cobb County and this is the first I have heard of this (though I do ignore local news media). For those who may not know, Kennesaw is a town that has an ordinance that requires every household to own a gun.

This is the place that gun worshippers always point to as being a "success" because of that law. Funny, it didn't stop the shooting that occurred today, nor did it stop a mass shooting in 2010 that resulted in 3 deaths.

You do realize that the airport, and the FedEx facility are *not* in the city of Kennesaw? Kennesaw laws do not apply there.

Try again.

Then please explain this:

COBB COUNTY, GA (CBS46) -
A man believed responsible for a shooting at a FedEx warehouse in Kennesaw was found dead inside the building with an apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound, according to authorities.

The shooting, which was reported at 5:54 a.m., happened at the FedEx located on Grist Lake Road in Kennesaw.

Are you that stupid? City limits aren't the same thing as what people generally call their mailing address.


In which city did this happen in, then??
 
2014-04-29 01:21:45 PM

Lorelle: mizchief: Lorelle: sugar_fetus: Lorelle: JackieRabbit: Holy crap. I live in Cobb County and this is the first I have heard of this (though I do ignore local news media). For those who may not know, Kennesaw is a town that has an ordinance that requires every household to own a gun.

This is the place that gun worshippers always point to as being a "success" because of that law. Funny, it didn't stop the shooting that occurred today, nor did it stop a mass shooting in 2010 that resulted in 3 deaths.

You do realize that the airport, and the FedEx facility are *not* in the city of Kennesaw? Kennesaw laws do not apply there.

Try again.

Then please explain this:

COBB COUNTY, GA (CBS46) -
A man believed responsible for a shooting at a FedEx warehouse in Kennesaw was found dead inside the building with an apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound, according to authorities.

The shooting, which was reported at 5:54 a.m., happened at the FedEx located on Grist Lake Road in Kennesaw.

Are you that stupid? City limits aren't the same thing as what people generally call their mailing address.

In which city did this happen in, then??


It happened in a place that has a mailing address of Kennesaw, GA. That address is, however, outside of the city limits of Kennesaw, and therefore the law you are referring to does not apply to this location. As far as city limits go, this probably happened in unincorporated Cobb County. However, we generally do not refer to places by their city limits, but by their mailing address.

Not to mention the fact that, as I recall, that law required homeowners, not businesses, to possess a firearm in their home. But I could be wrong about that.
 
2014-04-29 01:21:46 PM

Facetious_Speciest: ChaosStar

FTFA: "He had bullets strapped across his chest like Rambo, a huge assault rifle and he had a knife," Aiken said in a parking lot where employees were gathering not far from their workplace.

To be fair, it's not necessarily Aiken's fault that he's a moron. He was taught that. All criminal shooters are armed with assault rifles and Glocks.

Rather recently, some dictionaries began defining "assault rifle" as, essentially, "weapon that looks scary kinda like what idiots see on the teevee," because that's how many people use it these days, and many people are ignorant of the actual meaning and history of the term. Now, of course, these same idiots can point to the dictionary and say, "see? assault rifle!", all the while ignoring the fact that it's their own ignorance that stimulated such dumbing-down of the language.

It's one of the more amusing twists in the American firearms debate.


I was standing in line to pay for my coffee this morning and the local Pump N Munch and was looking at the magazine rack and saw a magazine titled "Combat Handguns", and had to chuckle to myself wondering how long it would take for that term to be used by the media to make people soil themselves.
 
2014-04-29 01:22:14 PM

Lorelle: ChaosStar: Lorelle: ChaosStar: Lorelle: Click Click D'oh: Lorelle: Funny, it didn't stop the shooting that occurred today, nor did it stop a mass shooting in 2010 that resulted in 3 deaths.

You had to go back to 2010 to find 3 firearms deaths and you are really going to trumpet this as the failure of firearms proliferation to create safety?  Meanwhile, in Chicago...

If you're going to claim that more guns = less crime, then why is crime and the number of shootings so high in Chicago??

Because it's the criminals that have the guns?
I know you knew this and were just being intellectually dishonest, but I figured I'd answer anyway.

You believe that every gun owner in Chicago is a criminal??

I do not, and again, you knew this, but please continue with your logical fallacies in an attempt to make your assertion that guns are bad valid.

Some days,  it's like shooting fish in a barrel. :D


I point out you're not as clever as you think you are and you take a victory lap?
Ok, I'll go along with it I suppose. I support the Special Olympics too.
 
2014-04-29 01:24:56 PM

Onkel Buck: Facetious_Speciest: ChaosStar

FTFA: "He had bullets strapped across his chest like Rambo, a huge assault rifle and he had a knife," Aiken said in a parking lot where employees were gathering not far from their workplace.

To be fair, it's not necessarily Aiken's fault that he's a moron. He was taught that. All criminal shooters are armed with assault rifles and Glocks.

Rather recently, some dictionaries began defining "assault rifle" as, essentially, "weapon that looks scary kinda like what idiots see on the teevee," because that's how many people use it these days, and many people are ignorant of the actual meaning and history of the term. Now, of course, these same idiots can point to the dictionary and say, "see? assault rifle!", all the while ignoring the fact that it's their own ignorance that stimulated such dumbing-down of the language.

It's one of the more amusing twists in the American firearms debate.

I was standing in line to pay for my coffee this morning and the local Pump N Munch and was looking at the magazine rack and saw a magazine titled "Combat Handguns", and had to chuckle to myself wondering how long it would take for that term to be used by the media to make people soil themselves.


If people haven't already soiled themselves over gun violence, they aren't paying attention.

/sitting in poop
 
2014-04-29 01:27:29 PM

LaurenAguilera: So... is this going to effect my Prime shipping speeds?


Shoot all you want. we'll send more.
 
2014-04-29 01:28:47 PM

lostcat: Onkel Buck: Facetious_Speciest: ChaosStar

FTFA: "He had bullets strapped across his chest like Rambo, a huge assault rifle and he had a knife," Aiken said in a parking lot where employees were gathering not far from their workplace.

To be fair, it's not necessarily Aiken's fault that he's a moron. He was taught that. All criminal shooters are armed with assault rifles and Glocks.

Rather recently, some dictionaries began defining "assault rifle" as, essentially, "weapon that looks scary kinda like what idiots see on the teevee," because that's how many people use it these days, and many people are ignorant of the actual meaning and history of the term. Now, of course, these same idiots can point to the dictionary and say, "see? assault rifle!", all the while ignoring the fact that it's their own ignorance that stimulated such dumbing-down of the language.

It's one of the more amusing twists in the American firearms debate.

I was standing in line to pay for my coffee this morning and the local Pump N Munch and was looking at the magazine rack and saw a magazine titled "Combat Handguns", and had to chuckle to myself wondering how long it would take for that term to be used by the media to make people soil themselves.

If people haven't already soiled themselves over gun violence, they aren't paying attention.

/sitting in poop


You sound afraid, you should get a gun.
 
2014-04-29 01:30:28 PM

Onkel Buck: lostcat: Onkel Buck: Facetious_Speciest: ChaosStar


I was standing in line to pay for my coffee this morning and the local Pump N Munch and was looking at the magazine rack and saw a magazine titled "Combat Handguns", and had to chuckle to myself wondering how long it would take for that term to be used by the media to make people soil themselves.

If people haven't already soiled themselves over gun violence, they aren't paying attention.

/sitting in poop

You sound afraid, you should get a gun.


I'm smart enough to know that getting a gun isn't going to make me any safer.
 
2014-04-29 01:31:20 PM
I hope they arrest the gun that was used and prosecute it to the fullest extent of the law so guns learn not to kill people.
 
2014-04-29 01:40:24 PM

Facetious_Speciest: ChaosStar

FTFA: "He had bullets strapped across his chest like Rambo, a huge assault rifle and he had a knife," Aiken said in a parking lot where employees were gathering not far from their workplace.

To be fair, it's not necessarily Aiken's fault that he's a moron. He was taught that. All criminal shooters are armed with assault rifles and Glocks.

Rather recently, some dictionaries began defining "assault rifle" as, essentially, "weapon that looks scary kinda like what idiots see on the teevee," because that's how many people use it these days, and many people are ignorant of the actual meaning and history of the term. Now, of course, these same idiots can point to the dictionary and say, "see? assault rifle!", all the while ignoring the fact that it's their own ignorance that stimulated such dumbing-down of the language.

It's one of the more amusing twists in the American firearms debate.


You're just arguing semantics. And in English, semantics are a shifty business.

The two guns below have very different purposes, in the eyes of most people.

On top is a gun for hunting. You can picture the shooter waiting patiently for the optimal moment, hoping to take a deer down with one, well-placed shot. It has a wooden body and looks natural, folksy, like anything made from wood. It looks like something that is about being part of, and appreciating nature.

On the bottom is a gun for intimidating people and getting off a number of shots quickly, even in close quarters. You can picture the shooter in a uniform, assaulting an enemy position. It's made of metal and rubberized plastic. It looks industrial and utilitarian. Like something that is made to kill as efficiently as possible.

img.fark.net

I don't understand why some gun fans act like people are stupid for categorizing guns based on things other than pure operational specifications. That's what humans do.
 
2014-04-29 01:42:40 PM

ChaosStar: Lorelle: ChaosStar: Lorelle: ChaosStar: Lorelle: Click Click D'oh: Lorelle: Funny, it didn't stop the shooting that occurred today, nor did it stop a mass shooting in 2010 that resulted in 3 deaths.

You had to go back to 2010 to find 3 firearms deaths and you are really going to trumpet this as the failure of firearms proliferation to create safety?  Meanwhile, in Chicago...

If you're going to claim that more guns = less crime, then why is crime and the number of shootings so high in Chicago??

Because it's the criminals that have the guns?
I know you knew this and were just being intellectually dishonest, but I figured I'd answer anyway.

You believe that every gun owner in Chicago is a criminal??

I do not, and again, you knew this, but please continue with your logical fallacies in an attempt to make your assertion that guns are bad valid.

Some days,  it's like shooting fish in a barrel. :D

I point out you're not as clever as you think you are and you take a victory lap?
Ok, I'll go along with it I suppose. I support the Special Olympics too.


BURN!!
 
2014-04-29 01:43:38 PM

AngryDragon: I'm an Egyptian!: Here's what I don't get. A frequent refrain of the supporters of the Second Amendment is the whole "an armed society is a polite society" statement, yet they start on about the shootings in Chicago. What are they shooting with? Bananas? Passion fruit? Pointed sticks? One would assume they were  using firearms. And I think we can also assume that the shootings arent' just one or two shooters. Ergo, many people are armed. I would argue this invalidates that whole argument. Or is that they are more polite as they are shooting? Does it go along the lines of "I'm dreadfully sorry, but I'm now need to shoot you." Can someone explain this to me? What about Somalia? Damn near everyone is armed over there. How about Afghanistan? Or Iraq? They had a helluva lot of arms over there. Hell, there was a huge market in the middle of Sadr City where you could get any weapon you desire? Are those areas more polite?

That refrain is usually reserved for law abiding gun owners.  The vast majority of the inner city shootings are people who are acting in commission of a crime, or are prohibited from possessing firearms altogether.  There are millions of law abiding gun owners who will not once in their lifetimes shoot another person.


So how do you explain the violence in Somalia et al? They're following the laws. If guns were the answer, those areas should be the most polite. Maybe it's not guns that make people polite, and the whole argument is a bunch of crap that can be objectively disproved by looking at the evidence.

Let's look at the rates of firearm ownership in the U.S. Link

Now, let's look at rates of firearm deaths in the U.S. Link.

Well whaddaya know! They seem to match up. Not perfectly, mind you, but pretty damn close. Shocker, that. But at least these are polite deaths.

As a disclaimer, I am a firearm owner. I just hate lazy, mindless arguments.
 
2014-04-29 01:45:08 PM
Ok, let's try that second link again. Serves me right for not previewing.   Link.
 
2014-04-29 01:45:29 PM
lostcat

You're just arguing semantics.

Actually, I was commenting on a popular semantic shift.
 
2014-04-29 01:46:23 PM

FarFarAway: It happened in a place that has a mailing address of Kennesaw, GA. That address is, however, outside of the city limits of Kennesaw, and therefore the law you are referring to does not apply to this location. As far as city limits go, this probably happened in unincorporated Cobb County. However, we generally do not refer to places by their city limits, but by their mailing address.


Which is similiar to my home address.  It's listed as one city but I'm a good 10 miles from the city itself but by my address you would think I lived in the city.
 
2014-04-29 01:48:56 PM

TNel: FarFarAway: It happened in a place that has a mailing address of Kennesaw, GA. That address is, however, outside of the city limits of Kennesaw, and therefore the law you are referring to does not apply to this location. As far as city limits go, this probably happened in unincorporated Cobb County. However, we generally do not refer to places by their city limits, but by their mailing address.

Which is similiar to my home address.  It's listed as one city but I'm a good 10 miles from the city itself but by my address you would think I lived in the city.


Yup. Same goes for my home address. I'm city A mailing address, but nowhere near the city limits. I'm closer to city B, actually, but not inside of their limits either.
 
2014-04-29 01:56:44 PM

mizchief: Lorelle: sugar_fetus: Lorelle: JackieRabbit: Holy crap. I live in Cobb County and this is the first I have heard of this (though I do ignore local news media). For those who may not know, Kennesaw is a town that has an ordinance that requires every household to own a gun.

This is the place that gun worshippers always point to as being a "success" because of that law. Funny, it didn't stop the shooting that occurred today, nor did it stop a mass shooting in 2010 that resulted in 3 deaths.

You do realize that the airport, and the FedEx facility are *not* in the city of Kennesaw? Kennesaw laws do not apply there.

Try again.

Then please explain this:

COBB COUNTY, GA (CBS46) -
A man believed responsible for a shooting at a FedEx warehouse in Kennesaw was found dead inside the building with an apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound, according to authorities.

The shooting, which was reported at 5:54 a.m., happened at the FedEx located on Grist Lake Road in Kennesaw.

Are you that stupid? City limits aren't the same thing as what people generally call their mailing address.


Are you so stupid that you dont understand that a city's laws STOP AT THE CITY LIMITS?

You think Kennesaw's laws extend beyond the borders of the city? Wow. you need to get back to junior high and take a civics class.
 
2014-04-29 01:57:37 PM

Lorelle: mizchief: Lorelle: sugar_fetus: Lorelle: JackieRabbit: Holy crap. I live in Cobb County and this is the first I have heard of this (though I do ignore local news media). For those who may not know, Kennesaw is a town that has an ordinance that requires every household to own a gun.

This is the place that gun worshippers always point to as being a "success" because of that law. Funny, it didn't stop the shooting that occurred today, nor did it stop a mass shooting in 2010 that resulted in 3 deaths.

You do realize that the airport, and the FedEx facility are *not* in the city of Kennesaw? Kennesaw laws do not apply there.

Try again.

Then please explain this:

COBB COUNTY, GA (CBS46) -
A man believed responsible for a shooting at a FedEx warehouse in Kennesaw was found dead inside the building with an apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound, according to authorities.

The shooting, which was reported at 5:54 a.m., happened at the FedEx located on Grist Lake Road in Kennesaw.

Are you that stupid? City limits aren't the same thing as what people generally call their mailing address.

In which city did this happen in, then??


None. It's outside the Kennesaw city limits and in Cobb county. Not every place is in a city. postal addresses are not indicative of city boundaries.
 
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