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2014-04-29 11:04:58 AM  

s2s2s2: Most of them turn their guns on themselves when guns are drawn on them. They don't want to get caught. So all your telling gets is a guy walking in with a gun, and either immediately being shot(he might get one or two), or seeing a bunch of guns drawn on him, and taking himself out, immediately. Either way, you likely end up with fewer bodies. I'm not saying everyone should have a gun. I certainly don't want to have to carry one. I'm just saying that this isn't as simple as "ban guns".


 I would be willing to bet majority of the shooters go in knowing they are not going to live afterward.  Do you really think it matters to them if the it ends up being the cops, another armed person, or themselves that ends up pulling the trigger?

So you really think that a armed person could stop a shooter before he pops off a few rounds?  You watch too many movies.  I would be willing to bet that majority of CCW people would duck and run when bullets start.  People are not going to all pull their gun out like some old western movie and the bad guy is going to drop his gun and run out the door.

There is such a small section of people that say "ban guns" and gun nutters love them because they get to use them as examples.  Just the same as anti-religous people love to point out how religous fanatics fire bomb planned parenthood centers.
 
2014-04-29 11:07:08 AM  

R.A.Danny: d23: I think there is middle ground between "gun grabbing" and Mad Max society, unlike many black/white thinkers.

Are we in some type of Mad Max society? Last I looked crime had dropped.


It has, that's why outside of Chicago and Detroit these kinds of things make huge headlines.
 
2014-04-29 11:09:30 AM  

d23: [img.fark.net image 297x170]


You can count to zero.  Good jorb.  Was the number of days since you have been able to use this too high to count?
 
2014-04-29 11:10:25 AM  

Babwa Wawa: KingKauff: When the first mass shooting in a bar or church happens, THEN you can spew the "South-hate"

But I thought the whole point of that law is to prevent mass shootings.

Armed society being polite society and all that sh*t.


Nobody is accusing the shooter of being un-mannerly.
For all we know, he was very polite.

"Pardon me, but I'm going to shoot you now." BOOM!
"So terribly sorry." BOOM!
Please excuse me." BOOM!
 
2014-04-29 11:11:05 AM  

jaybeezey: R.A.Danny: d23: I think there is middle ground between "gun grabbing" and Mad Max society, unlike many black/white thinkers.

Are we in some type of Mad Max society? Last I looked crime had dropped.

It has, that's why outside of Chicago and Detroit these kinds of things make huge headlines.


Chicago and Detroit gun deaths have one similarity that keeps them out of the national news.
It's black people that are dying. No one seems to care about them. Kill one white person in Idaho? That will hit the front page nationwide.
 
2014-04-29 11:11:35 AM  

s2s2s2: Guess where else you aren't allowed to carry a gun!


Ah, the old GoP talking point.  There's plenty of armed personnel on any base.

Again, when did this thing go from being "don't take my guns" - which most people agree with, to "I want to buy and carry whatever and wherever I want"?
 
2014-04-29 11:12:25 AM  
Georgia? Are zombies involved?
 
2014-04-29 11:12:49 AM  
TNel:
So you really think that a armed person could stop a shooter before he pops off a few rounds?  You watch too many movies.  I would be willing to bet that majority of CCW people would duck and run when bullets start.  People are not going to all pull their gun out like some old western movie and the bad guy is going to drop his gun and run out the door.

Even a trained law enforcement officer would be startled.  Everyone likes to think they know what they'd do in that situation, but I don't think anyone can really predict their own response.  It's not as if anyone goes in there planning to take down a psycho.  It abruptly goes from a normal, peaceful work day to all hell breaking loose before anyone even knows what's happening.  However I think I do have to cede the point that in some cases the right person being in the right place at the right time with a gun could probably have stopped it, but all of those variables are unlikely to line up on any given day.
 
2014-04-29 11:13:06 AM  

AspectRatio: Dear Gun Fetishists,

Either grow up and start supporting and voting for strict gun control laws, or you will completely lose your precious Second Amendment some time in the next 30 years.

Sincerely,
Everyone else


So, give up some now, and some later, and even more later, or loose them all? What's the difference?

I have been assured by the Fark anti-gunner mob that no one who wanted to take away all the guns.
 
2014-04-29 11:13:15 AM  
Babwa Wawa

Wow dude. That's some ignorant sh*t right there. Two mass shootings. In Texas. On an army base. Mass shooting on a Navy base.

Going to take a wild guess here and say you've never served.

On a side note, I'm not sure where or when the gun control debate went off the f*cking rails. There used to be general agreement on both sides that there was a right to own weapons. At some point over the last 20 years it's morphed into something about the ability to arm yourself with anything, anywhere, without any checks on the right whatsoever.

When did you guys lose your f*cking minds?


Those types are balanced by the "no one should own weapons" types on the other side. Both "sides" have ideological extremists.
 
2014-04-29 11:13:35 AM  

Babwa Wawa: It's illegal to possess a firearm in that area of the airport,


It is legal to carry a firearm into an airport in Ga. If you try to go through security and get caught, they will turn you away, but you get to keep the gun if  you have a permit and say you "forgot" you had the gun with you. Gov signed it last week.
 
2014-04-29 11:13:36 AM  

s2s2s2: Most of them turn their guns on themselves when guns are drawn on them.


I'm not the type to ask for a citation so I won't but I doubt that all the school shooters for example were concerned about the librarian packing heat.

These people are crazy. They obviously don't intend on getting caught or living through the incident. And no matter how many times you watch Die Hard, every guy who happens to have a gun during one of these incidents isn't going to step up and take care of shiat when it goes down.

I'm not anti-gun. I have a gun. I have a permit. Just don't pretend that a society where everyone has a piece is going to solve anything.
 
2014-04-29 11:13:53 AM  

Babwa Wawa: Again, when did this thing go from being "don't take my guns" - which most people agree with, to "I want to buy and carry whatever and wherever I want"?


When did it go from We just want to regulate full automatic guns and sawed off shotguns to the Brady Campaign?
 
2014-04-29 11:16:26 AM  
Thanks NRA. FED UPS with this shiat already.
 
2014-04-29 11:16:37 AM  

Kit Fister: off the top of google.


It's bad enough that not a single one of those is about any of the four studies I cited, but on top of that the first and last links are the same article on two different sites and it's an article by a guy who is frequently attacked by the NRA for his work and is widely cited by gun control advocates.

The second link is a criticism of a study that concluded that instituting SHALL ISSUE concealed carry would reduce gun violence so I'm not even sure why you linked it. Not only is not relevant to anything I've said to you or Gristle, it appears to be completely antithetical to your position on the larger issue since it's criticising a study that advocated FEWER gun control measures.

The third link is a criticism of a study that was never even published.

The fourth link doesn't dispute the correlation found in the study it was commenting on, it simply warns against using that data alone as proof that any particular legal measure would have some particular outcome.

You probably should have at least skimmed them.
 
2014-04-29 11:17:52 AM  

skozlaw: FarFarAway: It's Fark. The South hate never stops.

Yea, right. Because if there's one thing nobody ever makes fun of it's California. Or New York City. Or Portland. Or Seattle. Or Ohio. Or Detroit.

Wash the sand out of your vagina. Every region has mockable quirks. The only reason you guys get more of it is because Florida works so hard to drive your average up.


Yes, throwing around sexist bullshiat makes your opinion SO valid. Show me where any of those places get half the shiat that the South does. I don't see anyone assuming that all New Yorkers are racists because they live in New York. I don't see anyone assuming that Seattle residents are inbred squeal like a pig morons because they live where they do.
 
2014-04-29 11:18:12 AM  

skozlaw: Kit Fister: off the top of google.

It's bad enough that not a single one of those is about any of the four studies I cited, but on top of that the first and last links are the same article on two different sites and it's an article by a guy who is frequently attacked by the NRA for his work and is widely cited by gun control advocates.

The second link is a criticism of a study that concluded that instituting SHALL ISSUE concealed carry would reduce gun violence so I'm not even sure why you linked it. Not only is not relevant to anything I've said to you or Gristle, it appears to be completely antithetical to your position on the larger issue since it's criticising a study that advocated FEWER gun control measures.

The third link is a criticism of a study that was never even published.

The fourth link doesn't dispute the correlation found in the study it was commenting on, it simply warns against using that data alone as proof that any particular legal measure would have some particular outcome.

You probably should have at least skimmed them.


I bow to your superior intellect and greater knowledge of all things.
 
2014-04-29 11:19:28 AM  

someradicaldude: WebRepcurrentVotenoRatingnoWeight


OK, so what is this, and why is it showing up in all your posts?
 
2014-04-29 11:20:24 AM  

Muta: Bit'O'Gristle: The guns are out there, there is no getting them back. The world is full of some really farked up people who are just waiting for trigger to set them off to go on a rampage, and kill innocent victims. You have a choice. Choose to be able to defend yourself, and your family / property, or ...choose not to. The police (as i have been one) generally get there too late to do anything about an active shooter. The guy usually guns himself before they get there. So be a victim with NO WAY to defend yourself except cowering like a biatch and hoping not to get shot, or ...running and hiding. Those are your 2 choices.

Living a life in fear that I'll get shot is not freedom.  Since it is clear that government is unable to protect us from gun owners, I think it falls on the gun owning community.  The gun owning community are the ones who created the problem by making it easy for every wacko can buy a gun so they can be the ones to step up and solve it.  What should they do to solve the problem?  I don't know, it isn't my problem.  Responsible gun owners are the ones who need to step up and fix the problem they created. What's their solutions?  ... crickets ...


How about trying to not live in fear, i thought that is what the gun nutters did.

It looks like you need to work on liberal talking points. On the plus side, your anti-gun stance does go to prove that you likely have large genitalia in comparison to gun owners, so you can enjoy that aspect of it all while you hide in the corner crying like a biatch.


On the other hand, i'm not sure what everyone is all up in arms about, the guy just did what Uncle Joey Biden said and went and got a shotgun.

Hopefully those injured by this asshole recover  fully. It's a shame that someone like this feels so weak in life that he has to injur others in death.
 
2014-04-29 11:25:06 AM  

Persnickety: Clearly the thing to do is load everybody up with more and more guns.  How can we hope to curb gun violence until every single American is overbrimming with guns at all times?


Speak for yourself. I go to work everyday in a bulletproof vest, TAC helmet, and leg armor carrying my American made AR-10T (better than that .223 pu$$y shiat) and a Colt .45, both with custom grips and other accessories. Heck, even my grandkids are decked out in kevlar and open carry a .22 pistol in case little Malik get's too rough on the playground, or that creepy Jerome guy in that lives nearby tries to mess with them. We are the safest family in the world!

I'd like to get a anti-tank and anti-aircraft launchers next, but the government is limiting my 2nd amendment rights. They just don't want to be facing a well-armed populace when Ma0bama sends in his DHS shock troops. My neighbor wants to buy a good American tank, but there's rules about that I guess. Rules that are meant to keep you sheep underarmed in a fight against the fascist demonrats! Prepare for your FEMA reeducation camps if true patriots can't hold off the advance of Barack HUSSEIN 0bama and the hordes of commiefascistunionthugjackboots that would send you to fascist demonrat socialist camps to ensure that the next 10 generations is pliable.

The most terrifying thing is I have a hard time buying ammo because the government is buying it all up to keep it out of the hands of ordinary patriots, like myself, who have memorized parts of the first, second, fourth, and tenth amendments. How am I supposed to defend myself against the inevitable waves of socialist thugs if I don't have enough? How's my kids, and theirs, supposed to practice being a real American ready to defend themselves from oppressive tyranny by the government? We will see.

Remember, it won't be pretty. You've got to break a few eggs to make an omelette.

GOD BLESS AMERICA!


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2014-04-29 11:30:24 AM  

TNel: One item is necessary whereas the other isn't but sure you are smart.


He never said he bought her ammunition either...  Seems kind of necessary for the discharge of a firearm.
 
2014-04-29 11:31:32 AM  

TNel: So you really think that a armed person could stop a shooter before he pops off a few rounds?


s2s2s2: (he might get one or two)


Babwa Wawa: Again, when did this thing go from being "don't take my guns" - which most people agree with, to "I want to buy and carry whatever and wherever I want"?


s2s2s2: I'm not saying everyone should have a gun. I certainly don't want to have to carry one.


target="_blank">Mugato: I'm not the type to ask for a citation so I won't but I doubt that all the school shooters for example were concerned about the librarian packing heat.


s2s2s2: Most of them


Mugato: Just don't pretend that a society where everyone has a piece is going to solve anything.


s2s2s2: I'm not saying everyone should have a gun. I certainly don't want to have to carry one.


This is why talking about problems doesn't solve them.
 
2014-04-29 11:32:05 AM  

Babwa Wawa: s2s2s2: Guess where else you aren't allowed to carry a gun!

Ah, the old GoP talking point.  There's plenty of armed personnel on any base.

Again, when did this thing go from being "don't take my guns" - which most people agree with, to "I want to buy and carry whatever and wherever I want"?


Gun owners just want to continue to buy can carry what we have for decades. There aren't many out there demanding they are allowed full-auto, rocket launchers, etc. It's that the anti-gunners want to ban what we already have and exists in the millions. Such bans do nothing to protect anyone and as history shows, banning something that is in high demand leads to black markets and increased violence.

These shootings are basically the equivalent of suicide bombers. The person basically decided they wanted to kill themselves and take out as many people with them as possible. Even if these people couldn't get access to a gun, there are plenty of other ways to accomplish their goal.

I saw some reports claiming that the shooter in this case had asked for Saturday off and was denied, but he took it off anyway. My guess is that resulted in him getting fired. This happens to a lot of people and 99.9% of the time they don't try to kill themselves and their former coworkers.

The real question is how many resources and what other sacrifices are we willing to make to prevent that 0.01% occurrence? Given the current state of the real world, what action would actually be effective?

Problem is, no one actually gives a shiat about solving a particular problem. Be it anti or pro gun, they just pick a the parts of the story that fits their narrative. The vast majority of gun owners who just want to protect their family and enjoy their hobby get caught in the middle.
 
2014-04-29 11:34:06 AM  

FarFarAway: I don't see anyone assuming that all New Yorkers are racists because they live in New York.


Nah, the common New York stereotype is that they'd sooner piss on you than look at you.

FarFarAway: I don't see anyone assuming that Seattle residents are inbred squeal like a pig morons because they live where they do.


Nah, the common Seattle stereotype is that they're all stoned.
 
2014-04-29 11:34:45 AM  

Facetious_Speciest: Going to take a wild guess here and say you've never served.


Incorrect.
 
2014-04-29 11:38:17 AM  

mizchief: There aren't many out there demanding they are allowed full-auto, rocket launchers, etc

...

Both of which are actually perfectly legal to own.
 
2014-04-29 11:38:42 AM  

HeartBurnKid: FarFarAway: I don't see anyone assuming that all New Yorkers are racists because they live in New York.

Nah, the common New York stereotype is that they'd sooner piss on you than look at you.

FarFarAway: I don't see anyone assuming that Seattle residents are inbred squeal like a pig morons because they live where they do.

Nah, the common Seattle stereotype is that they're all stoned.


I thought the NYC stereotype was that they are all assholes and the whole city smells like garbage and human waste baking in a concrete oven.
 
2014-04-29 11:40:38 AM  

Click Click D'oh: mizchief: There aren't many out there demanding they are allowed full-auto, rocket launchers, etc...

Both of which are actually perfectly legal to own.


yes they are legal to own, but the restrictions make them effectively legally unobtainable for most people.
 
2014-04-29 11:40:40 AM  

JackieRabbit: Holy crap. I live in Cobb County and this is the first I have heard of this (though I do ignore local news media). For those who may not know, Kennesaw is a town that has an ordinance that requires every household to own a gun.


This is the place that gun worshippers always point to as being a "success" because of that law. Funny, it didn't stop the shooting that occurred today, nor did it stop a mass shooting in 2010 that resulted in 3 deaths.
 
2014-04-29 11:40:48 AM  

thesubliminalman: willfullyobscure: negligent discharge

What's a "negligent discarge "


Without a condom.
 
2014-04-29 11:41:06 AM  

exatron: Babwa Wawa: Why anyone would assume that the location of Cobb County is common knowledge is beyond me.

The story is from a local TV station's website. Presumably, most people in its broadcast area know where it is.


Yes, that's how the World Wide Web works. Nobody from outside small communities EVER links to local news sites.
 
2014-04-29 11:42:39 AM  
Babwa Wawa

Incorrect.

And you think everyone on base is armed? I can't speak for every posting, obviously, but in my experience on base stateside, the only people who are regularly armed are MPs, guards, people actually training at the time and the occasional OIC. This was serving as USMC infantry, but I can't imagine the USAF or USA have vastly more people armed as a matter of course...
 
2014-04-29 11:44:21 AM  

Lorelle: Funny, it didn't stop the shooting that occurred today, nor did it stop a mass shooting in 2010 that resulted in 3 deaths.


You had to go back to 2010 to find 3 firearms deaths and you are really going to trumpet this as the failure of firearms proliferation to create safety?  Meanwhile, in Chicago...
 
2014-04-29 11:45:05 AM  

Lorelle: JackieRabbit: Holy crap. I live in Cobb County and this is the first I have heard of this (though I do ignore local news media). For those who may not know, Kennesaw is a town that has an ordinance that requires every household to own a gun.

This is the place that gun worshippers always point to as being a "success" because of that law. Funny, it didn't stop the shooting that occurred today, nor did it stop a mass shooting in 2010 that resulted in 3 deaths.


The purpose of that law was to send a message to criminals that if they break into someone's house in Kennesaw, there is a very good chance they will die. That law does not apply to businesses where corporate policy usually dictates a weapon free workplace.
 
2014-04-29 11:46:12 AM  

s2s2s2: TNel: So you really think that a armed person could stop a shooter before he pops off a few rounds?
s2s2s2: (he might get one or two)

This is why talking about problems doesn't solve them. 

So fark it chain guns for everyone?  Or fark it no guns for anyone?


s2s2s2: Seriously, do you think everyone else's being armed wouldn't have made this fool think twice about doing this?

s2s2s2: I'm not saying everyone should have a gun.


So which is it?  Everyone being armed or not everyone?
 
2014-04-29 11:48:14 AM  

mizchief: The real question is how many resources and what other sacrifices are we willing to make to prevent that 0.01% occurrence? Given the current state of the real world, what action would actually be effective?


Yours is a reasonable response to a gun control bill.  I don't know what to call what passed in Georgia.  A gun encouragement bill, maybe?  Regardless, I think it's potentially counterproductive to your cause.  Guns have been banned from most schools and bars for quite a while.  The reason it's going to backfire is because at some point shiat's going to go sideways in one of those places.

The flavor of the opposition to gun control bills in general has really changed, and it's moved to the fringe.  For example, background checks used to be a bipartisan no brainer.   When the hell did a background check become some sort of rights restriction?
 
2014-04-29 11:48:38 AM  

TNel: Click Click D'oh: TNel: Yet he only bought her a gun and not a gun and "gun purse"

He apparently never bought her diapers as a child either since he didn't explicitly tell us so.

One item is necessary whereas the other isn't but sure you are smart.  Do you want me to list more stories of people that drop guns into bags?  He was proud of his gun purchase so he would have listed just like how you gun nuts talk about which style holster you buy, plus he said "her purse" which stands to reason like I said is just her own personal purse.


You know, if you read the thread, you would see that Bit O Gristle is former military/law enforcement.  That tells me that he is probably more safety-conscious than you average Joe.  But feel free to continue your suppositions.  We're enjoying them.
 
2014-04-29 11:49:26 AM  

Facetious_Speciest: And you think everyone on base is armed?


I didn't say that, did I?  I said there's no shortage of armed people on any base.  Every base I've ever been on is filthy with MPs.
 
2014-04-29 11:49:50 AM  

Hung Like A Tic-Tac: Georgia? Are zombies involved?


Well, it is a airport / sort facility...
 
2014-04-29 11:51:34 AM  

HeartBurnKid: someradicaldude: WebRepcurrentVotenoRatingnoWeight

OK, so what is this, and why is it showing up in all your posts?


Stupid avast antivirus, that part is now, happily disabled. It was popping in just as I clicked add comment.
 
2014-04-29 11:53:34 AM  

Lorelle: JackieRabbit: Holy crap. I live in Cobb County and this is the first I have heard of this (though I do ignore local news media). For those who may not know, Kennesaw is a town that has an ordinance that requires every household to own a gun.

This is the place that gun worshippers always point to as being a "success" because of that law. Funny, it didn't stop the shooting that occurred today, nor did it stop a mass shooting in 2010 that resulted in 3 deaths.


You do realize that the airport, and the FedEx facility are *not* in the city of Kennesaw? Kennesaw laws do not apply there.

Try again.
 
2014-04-29 11:53:46 AM  
Ahh yes. Another head-case exercising his 2nd Amendment rights (to buy a gun).

"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

This must have seemed like such an obvious need to the Founders way back when. Guess they didn't foresee hand-held machine pistols.

Hard to do a mass shooting with a musket I suppose.
 
2014-04-29 11:54:35 AM  

Facetious_Speciest: And you think everyone on base is armed? I can't speak for every posting, obviously, but in my experience on base stateside, the only people who are regularly armed are MPs, guards, people actually training at the time and the occasional OIC. This was serving as USMC infantry, but I can't imagine the USAF or USA have vastly more people armed as a matter of course...


That's the extent on USAF bases, which is a such a small percentage of people.
 
2014-04-29 11:55:09 AM  

Babwa Wawa: mizchief: The real question is how many resources and what other sacrifices are we willing to make to prevent that 0.01% occurrence? Given the current state of the real world, what action would actually be effective?

Yours is a reasonable response to a gun control bill.  I don't know what to call what passed in Georgia.  A gun encouragement bill, maybe?  Regardless, I think it's potentially counterproductive to your cause.  Guns have been banned from most schools and bars for quite a while.  The reason it's going to backfire is because at some point shiat's going to go sideways in one of those places.

The flavor of the opposition to gun control bills in general has really changed, and it's moved to the fringe.  For example, background checks used to be a bipartisan no brainer.   When the hell did a background check become some sort of rights restriction?


The law didn't really change much. As a state we accepted the notion that we will allow people who don't have a criminal, drug addiction, domestic violence, or mental illness history, after passing state and federal background checks, to carry concealed weapons. These laws just clear up a few
incongruencies. Did it really make sense that you could carry in a walmart, public park, public streets, etc. but somehow churches were off limits?
 
2014-04-29 11:57:08 AM  

dittybopper: Babwa Wawa: KingKauff: When the first mass shooting in a bar or church happens, THEN you can spew the "South-hate"

But I thought the whole point of that law is to prevent mass shootings.

Armed society being polite society and all that sh*t.

I'm willing to bet that:

1. It's illegal to possess a firearm in that area of the airport, and/or
2. It's against FedEx rules to be armed on the job.

So in this case, it's really about an unarmed pocket of society being vulnerable.

In fact, if you go back and look at the vast majority of mass shootings, they usually tend to happen where guns aren't allowed:  Schools, government buildings, and businesses where carrying is forbidden, and jurisdictions where carrying is often quite restricted or banned completely*.

But then, you *KNEW* that already, didn't you?

*The last "no-issue" state in the US was Illinois.  They are now "Shall-Issue".


Correlation != Causation. More likely, areas obtain gun restrictions because they are vulnerable, not the other way around. And in that case, arming more people in those locations is illogical.

/But then, you *KNEW* that already, didn't you?
 
2014-04-29 11:57:39 AM  
Babwa Wawa

I didn't say that, did I?

Well, no, I suppose you didn't. It just seemed to me that, in response to dittybopper saying:

...if you go back and look at the vast majority of mass shootings, they usually tend to happen where guns aren't allowed: Schools, government buildings, and businesses where carrying is forbidden, and jurisdictions where carrying is often quite restricted or banned completely,

you said:

Wow dude. That's some ignorant sh*t right there. Two mass shootings. In Texas. On an army base. Mass shooting on a Navy base.

The comment you replied to obviously refers to places where weapons are prohibited from general carry, with only allowed personnel being armed. Exactly like a military base.

When the hell did a background check become some sort of rights restriction?

If you actually look at proposed background check legislation, it fails because it's invariably tied up with other proposals that are objectionable to many people.
 
2014-04-29 11:58:39 AM  

Cold_Sassy: You know, if you read the thread, you would see that Bit O Gristle is former military/law enforcement. That tells me that he is probably more safety-conscious than you average Joe. But feel free to continue your suppositions. We're enjoying them.


You know what they say about assume right?  Wait you want to go that route?  Do you want me to post the LEO trainer shooting himself in the foot?

fark it it's too funny not to post.   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2442_rmiidY
 
2014-04-29 11:59:48 AM  

MythDragon: Bit'O'Gristle: upndn: What qualifies as a mass shooting? How many people must be shot or is it how many shots are fired? Do people have to die? Hell, it took me half my life to figure out the difference between "a couple" and "a few". I always thought "a mass" is more than "a couple" or "a few" but in regards to shootings, I'm not so sure.

/I need my coffee

/I have always been in the understanding that anything above 4 or five is considered "mass".  As far as i know, there is no fixed number, but generally, i have seen 4 or 5 to be the line.

To further elaborate on this, two people shot is company, and three shootings is  a crowd.


/If you shoot four or more crows, it's called a 'murder'


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2014-04-29 11:59:51 AM  

TNel: s2s2s2: TNel: So you really think that a armed person could stop a shooter before he pops off a few rounds?
s2s2s2: (he might get one or two)
This is why talking about problems doesn't solve them.
So fark it chain guns for everyone?  Or fark it no guns for anyone?


s2s2s2: Seriously, do you think everyone else's being armed wouldn't have made this fool think twice about doing this?
s2s2s2: I'm not saying everyone should have a gun.

So which is it?  Everyone being armed or not everyone?


None of what I said was about an endorsement of policy. You aren't going to read about the many instances of a good guy with a gun stopping a crime, without some digging, as often as stories like this. Death sells.

I don't like guns, but I understand their usefulness.
 
2014-04-29 12:02:21 PM  

d23: Babwa Wawa: KingKauff: When the first mass shooting in a bar or church happens, THEN you can spew the "South-hate"

But I thought the whole point of that law is to prevent mass shootings.

Armed society being polite society and all that sh*t.

And, yet again, a law abiding citizen didn't pull a gun and stop it.  Must be time to arm the 5 year olds now...


If you're done with taking advantage of this tragedy for your own purposes, I'd like to point out that FedEx has a strict no weapons policy on its facilities.
 
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