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2014-04-29 10:02:13 AM  

Click Click D'oh: You know, they make purses specifically for that purpose right?


Cold_Sassy: You are not aware that there are purses are made with built-in holsters for accident prevention/easy access.

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Yet he only bought her a gun and not a gun and "gun purse".  How many girls buy gun purses just in case their father/husband may someday buy them a gun?

I'm willing to heavily favor that she dropped it into a regular purse.

http://glendora.patch.com/groups/police-and-fire/p/handgun-in-womans -p urse-accidentally-discharges-in-glendora-store
http://ohhshoot.blogspot.com/2013/06/gun-in-purse-discharges-shootin g- 7-year.html
http://www.concealednation.org/2014/01/rep-leslie-combs-accidentally -d ischarges-firearm-in-office-says-im-a-gun-owner-it-happens/

There's plenty of other examples.
 
2014-04-29 10:06:24 AM  
AspectRatio

Either grow up and start supporting and voting for strict gun control laws, or you will completely lose your precious Second Amendment some time in the next 30 years.

Incredibly unlikely. I'd put the odds just above "we'll all be using robotic surrogates like that Bruce Willis movie" and just below "Jesus comes to earth to fist-fight zombie Hitler."
 
2014-04-29 10:07:37 AM  

d23: I think there is middle ground between "gun grabbing" and Mad Max society, unlike many black/white thinkers.


Are we in some type of Mad Max society? Last I looked crime had dropped.
 
2014-04-29 10:07:43 AM  

AspectRatio: Kit Fister: 6 injured, no deaths, shooter's dead.

Meh.

Therefore guns are harmless and nothing could have been done or should have been done to keep the shooter from having one. And I'm sure the injuries were just bruises, maybe just a scratch or a broken fingernail, nothing permanent or disabling. And there definitely won't be any long-term trauma for any of those involved, or their families, or the community. I'd say "meh" just about sums it up, another day in gun-land.


Point out who the next shooters are going to be, and we'll grab pitch forks and fuzzy boas to go stop them all.  And I mean every last one of them.
 
2014-04-29 10:08:33 AM  

dfenstrate: MFK: Bit'O'Gristle:
/i could not agree more.  Mass shootings are generally at "soft targets" where most if not all the victims aren't capable of defending themselves against a firearm wielding wack job.  That is why the shooters pick them.  You wouldn't walk into a bank were all the tellers / public is armed and try to rob it.  You would be riddled in seconds.  They go for soft targets to kill many people before killing themselves.  They are cowards, and take the cowardly way out by killing innocent defenseless victims.

yeah... like military bases.

Look dude, no matter how much you want it, we're not going to arm this society to the teeth just because you people have these weird gun fantasies.

Military bases are actually gun free zones- they have been for a good 20 years or so. That makes them 'soft targets.' If the president cared about our troops, he'd rescind that little directive.


Just to make this clear, you're for more armed government employees on US soil.
 
2014-04-29 10:11:21 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: MBrady: tommyl66: Another responsible gun owner in the land of the free and the home of the Braves...

show me ONE gun shooting where the shooter was a legal gun owner who was level headed, sane, and was legally able to own them.

So you advocate for mental health screenings prior to being allowed to own firearms, right?


Only if it also goes for driving licenses, voting, being parents, and being politicians.  Then I have no issues.  But since almost everyone has some type of mental issue, at what level do you start to restrict?
 
2014-04-29 10:12:41 AM  

selena gomez has an anus: Well, maybe THIS one will be the incident that gets us closer to doing the right thing and making the ownership and possession of any firearm illegal.


It won't. Nothing will. You lose.
 
2014-04-29 10:13:08 AM  
pueblonative

Just to make this clear, you're for more armed government employees on US soil.
Do you get dizzy spinning that much?
 
2014-04-29 10:14:00 AM  
My home town, where a law is still on the books that you have to own a gun. The legislature must have declared Monday as take a gun to work day.
 
2014-04-29 10:14:06 AM  

Magnus: AspectRatio: Kit Fister: 6 injured, no deaths, shooter's dead.

Meh.

Therefore guns are harmless and nothing could have been done or should have been done to keep the shooter from having one. And I'm sure the injuries were just bruises, maybe just a scratch or a broken fingernail, nothing permanent or disabling. And there definitely won't be any long-term trauma for any of those involved, or their families, or the community. I'd say "meh" just about sums it up, another day in gun-land.

Point out who the next shooters are going to be, and we'll grab pitch forks and fuzzy boas to go stop them all.  And I mean every last one of them.


Also those who will kill via DUI, religious zealots, texting while driving, etc...

Or you could just say "Hail Hydra"..
 
2014-04-29 10:15:06 AM  
Tuesday.  I'll wake up later.
 
2014-04-29 10:15:09 AM  

pueblonative: dfenstrate: MFK: Bit'O'Gristle:
/i could not agree more.  Mass shootings are generally at "soft targets" where most if not all the victims aren't capable of defending themselves against a firearm wielding wack job.  That is why the shooters pick them.  You wouldn't walk into a bank were all the tellers / public is armed and try to rob it.  You would be riddled in seconds.  They go for soft targets to kill many people before killing themselves.  They are cowards, and take the cowardly way out by killing innocent defenseless victims.

yeah... like military bases.

Look dude, no matter how much you want it, we're not going to arm this society to the teeth just because you people have these weird gun fantasies.

Military bases are actually gun free zones- they have been for a good 20 years or so. That makes them 'soft targets.' If the president cared about our troops, he'd rescind that little directive.

Just to make this clear, you're for more armed government employees on US soil.


Well, personally I trust the military a bit more than all the three letter agencies who've decided they need swat teams outfitted like they're in the military. In addition, if the military was actually going to be a problem to the citizenry, they'd be under orders to have their weapons, making your cute little point irrelevant.

Past that, I'd love to hear your ideas on improving base security.
 
2014-04-29 10:15:35 AM  
Holy crap. I live in Cobb County and this is the first I have heard of this (though I do ignore local news media). For those who may not know, Kennesaw is a town that has an ordinance that requires every household to own a gun.
 
2014-04-29 10:15:38 AM  
Oh, look, Tori Spelling's hospitalization was filmed.........
 
2014-04-29 10:16:27 AM  

Kit Fister: And most of those studies have been found to be flawed.


Feel free to back that claim.
 
2014-04-29 10:17:12 AM  

devilEther: js34603: Does anyone ever notice these threads contain the exact same posts every time? Just (some of) the names are different.

Probably just me. Or maybe someone posts this same thing in every gun thread, too.

See, in these threads, you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda.


Yea i just shift through the snarky opinionated garbage and just dispute those who try to present false facts.
 
2014-04-29 10:17:17 AM  

willfullyobscure: negligent discharge


What's a "negligent discarge "
 
2014-04-29 10:17:23 AM  
You keep paying those drivers by the mile, FedEx!
 
2014-04-29 10:17:37 AM  

parasol: upndn: What qualifies as a mass shooting? How many people must be shot or is it how many shots are fired? Do people have to die? Hell, it took me half my life to figure out the difference between "a couple" and "a few". I always thought "a mass" is more than "a couple" or "a few" but in regards to shootings, I'm not so sure.

/I need my coffee

As a former student of "new math", avid news fan and adult, my understanding is this:

1 - For the press, a "mass shooting" is a term used when the number of casualties is still not clear but it is clearly more than two, not including the gun man, who will remain singular (as in "6 reported killed, not including the shooter").  The number of shots fired is of no interest in defining a mass shooting and will be used only by the police and, later, during gun-related discussions ("was it necessary to fire 100 rounds to stop one person?"). The number of people killed does not define a "mass shooting" - that would include both killed and wounded.  IN SUM: "Mass shooting" is a situational reference for "lots of gunfire with more than two people hurt/killed.....stay tuned"

2 - "A couple" vs "A few" - while generally understood that the former means "two" and the latter "something less than ten" you should consider context:  "Yes, she has a couple of kids" vs "Officer? I had a couple of beers"  and  "John? The boss would like a few minutes" vs "I need a few things from the store, dear"

3 - A "mass" is less than "a couple" or "a few" in that it is one mass - made up of several things - ie, a cancerous mass, a mass protest, a mass shooting. So, for news media, the math is - one mass shooting (early report), "a couple" of persons of interest" and "a few" remain in the hospital.

Clearly, a question suited for Common Core Math standards.

What it could do for the understanding of "some" - and not that frustratingly concise "sum"


Well defined, thanks
 
2014-04-29 10:18:28 AM  

doctor wu: If everyone there had an Uzi this wouldn't have happened!


/too soon?


Not soon enough. Get them those Uzis. Seriously, do you think everyone else's being armed wouldn't have made this fool think twice about doing this? People do this to inflict damage, not to go get shot down right away.

I know it's an unpopular argument, and I'd love a gun free society, but if you know you are walking into an "all gun zone" you probably aren't going to do the disgruntled shooter routine.
 
2014-04-29 10:19:30 AM  

Bit'O'Gristle: gnosis301: jehovahs witness protection: Funny how people yap about the south while ignoring all the shootings in the utopia known as Chicago.

Get off that cross you nailed yourself to.

/Well if we could figure out how to get gang members to stop spraying rounds into innocent victims while throwing moranic gang signs we would have that problem licked now wouldn't we? You can't fix stupid, and darwin generally assures us that he will continue to weed out genetically flawed citizens.


We know how to stop gang violence, end the drug war.
 
2014-04-29 10:20:20 AM  
Clearly a case of negligent discarge on one or both party's side. I've been driving since I was 9 and I've never had a negligent discarge and neither has anyone I know, so i think that's probably a fluke.


Somehow farkquote changed your spelling
 
2014-04-29 10:23:55 AM  

s2s2s2: Not soon enough. Get them those Uzis. Seriously, do you think everyone else's being armed wouldn't have made this fool think twice about doing this? People do this to inflict damage, not to go get shot down right away.

I know it's an unpopular argument, and I'd love a gun free society, but if you know you are walking into an "all gun zone" you probably aren't going to do the disgruntled shooter routine.


Yes because all these psycho shooters, who normally wind up turning their guns on themselves, are going to think twice about shooting up a place if they think someone else might hurt them. That's mighty fine logical thinking there.

This "an armed society is a polite society" horseshiat is horseshiat. Was the Old West polite? Now I realize the Old West wasn't as it is portrayed in the movies but it wasn't exactly polite either.
 
2014-04-29 10:24:36 AM  

s2s2s2: Not soon enough. Get them those Uzis. Seriously, do you think everyone else's being armed wouldn't have made this fool think twice about doing this? People do this to inflict damage, not to go get shot down right away.

I know it's an unpopular argument, and I'd love a gun free society, but if you know you are walking into an "all gun zone" you probably aren't going to do the disgruntled shooter routine.


You are flawed in thinking then because most of those people turn the gun on themselves at the end so they have no qualms about dying so no they would not care about walking into an all gun zone if they can kill the target that they were looking for.  Most people don't go killing randoms, usually there is some method to begin with.

School shootings usually starts with the bully/principal and then goes outward, office shootings are usually the boss first then outward, etc..
 
2014-04-29 10:24:52 AM  

Alpha Sierra Foxtrot: amindtat: Georgia? What a surprise...

Really? We're going to start the South-hate this early in the morning?


What's not to hate?
 
2014-04-29 10:26:32 AM  

Alpha Sierra Foxtrot: amindtat: Georgia? What a surprise...

Really? We're going to start the South-hate this early in the morning?


It's Fark. The South hate never stops.
 
2014-04-29 10:27:01 AM  

RobotSpider: d23: [img.fark.net image 297x170]

It can still be cast to an tinyint datatype. It's not a problem until it fits in a boolean> variable.

/FT4Y
 
2014-04-29 10:28:39 AM  

TNel: Yet he only bought her a gun and not a gun and "gun purse"


He apparently never bought her diapers as a child either since he didn't explicitly tell us so.
 
2014-04-29 10:30:02 AM  

Pangea: I get the same feeling every time I see someone display a phone number without an area code.


These local news sites are the absolute worst.  Here's an example:

WWUT reports that a Clark County man shoves tsetse flies in his urethra for charity.


Here's the thing.  There's gotta be 50 Clark Counties in the US, and I don't know who the fark WWUT is.  Nothing on their home page about where they're located.  Sometimes I go to contact and do a reverse area code lookup, sometimes I'll do an f*cking FCC search.

It's like they don't realize that the internet is a global thing.
 
2014-04-29 10:31:06 AM  
"Police have instructed the families of FedEx employees to gather at Sparkles Skating Rink"

Good of them to provide an activity to distract from the anxiety.
 
2014-04-29 10:34:05 AM  

FarFarAway: It's Fark. The South hate never stops.


Well to be fair, there are a lot of shootings in GA. Someone was just making a point.

I live half the year in FL and you don't see any sand in my vagina about how the Sunshine State is treated here.
 
2014-04-29 10:34:15 AM  
Savage Belief

What's not to hate?

What kind of self-respecting Farker hates bourbon?
 
2014-04-29 10:34:47 AM  

EatenTheSun: "Police have instructed the families of FedEx employees to gather at Sparkles Skating Rink"

Good of them to provide an activity to distract from the anxiety.



weallhitplay.com
 
2014-04-29 10:35:24 AM  

Kit Fister: AspectRatio: As far as I've been able to tell, the only "serious alternative" proposed by the pro-gun lobby is "MOAR GUNS EVERYWHERE".

Except the Second Amendment Foundation who supported universal background checks until it was pointed out that the bill contained some very bad language, but keep on with your bad self.


A lot more people would have supported that bill if the process of creating it wasn't surrounded by insane rhetoric where people are calling for the death of the NRA leader and Feinstein presenting a bill that basically makes all modern firearms illegal. At that point the other side just gets defensive and any ground lost becomes a precedent for further restrictions.
 
2014-04-29 10:36:46 AM  
 
2014-04-29 10:37:30 AM  

oldernell: My home town, where a law is still on the books that you have to own a gun. The legislature must have declared Monday as take a gun to work day.


Being this happened today, Tuesday, I think your posit might be a bit off.

/just being snarky at this point, but good to hear from someone from Kennesaw.
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2014-04-29 10:37:44 AM  

mizchief: A lot more people would have supported that bill if the process of creating it wasn't surrounded by insane rhetoric where people are calling for the death of the NRA leader and Feinstein presenting a bill that basically makes all modern firearms illegal. At that point the other side just gets defensive and any ground lost becomes a precedent for further restrictions.


Yep.

Plus, you know, the whole process basically requiring steps that would've made it all but impossible to transfer a firearm...
 
2014-04-29 10:40:11 AM  

Click Click D'oh: TNel: Yet he only bought her a gun and not a gun and "gun purse"

He apparently never bought her diapers as a child either since he didn't explicitly tell us so.


One item is necessary whereas the other isn't but sure you are smart.  Do you want me to list more stories of people that drop guns into bags?  He was proud of his gun purchase so he would have listed just like how you gun nuts talk about which style holster you buy, plus he said "her purse" which stands to reason like I said is just her own personal purse.
 
2014-04-29 10:40:19 AM  

FarFarAway: It's Fark. The South hate never stops.


Yea, right. Because if there's one thing nobody ever makes fun of it's California. Or New York City. Or Portland. Or Seattle. Or Ohio. Or Detroit.

Wash the sand out of your vagina. Every region has mockable quirks. The only reason you guys get more of it is because Florida works so hard to drive your average up.
 
2014-04-29 10:41:51 AM  
Yawn. Wake me when its more than 30 people killed.
 
2014-04-29 10:45:30 AM  

oldernell: Tuesday.  I'll wake up later.


Me Too....
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2014-04-29 10:50:59 AM  
Only in America do you have people that don't see the contradiction in passing several laws making it more difficult to get an abortion and not passing several more to make it more difficult for a crazy person to get a firearm.
 
2014-04-29 10:51:36 AM  

Mugato: Yes because all these psycho shooters, who normally wind up turning their guns on themselves, are going to think twice about shooting up a place if they think someone else might hurt them. That's mighty fine logical thinking there.

This "an armed society is a polite society" horseshiat is horseshiat. Was the Old West polite? Now I realize the Old West wasn't as it is portrayed in the movies but it wasn't exactly polite either.


TNel: You are flawed in thinking then because most of those people turn the gun on themselves at the end so they have no qualms about dying so no they would not care about walking into an all gun zone if they can kill the target that they were looking for.  Most people don't go killing randoms, usually there is some method to begin with.

School shootings usually starts with the bully/principal and then goes outward, office shootings are usually the boss first then outward, etc..


Most of them turn their guns on themselves when guns are drawn on them. They don't want to get caught. So all your telling gets is a guy walking in with a gun, and either immediately being shot(he might get one or two), or seeing a bunch of guns drawn on him, and taking himself out, immediately. Either way, you likely end up with fewer bodies. I'm not saying everyone should have a gun. I certainly don't want to have to carry one. I'm just saying that this isn't as simple as "ban guns".
 
2014-04-29 10:53:50 AM  

Babwa Wawa: Here's the thing. There's gotta be 50 Clark Counties in the US, and I don't know who the fark WWUT is.


LOL WWUT
 
2014-04-29 10:54:09 AM  

Cymbal: Only in America do you have people that don't see the contradiction in passing several laws making it more difficult to get an abortion and not passing several more to make it more difficult for a crazy person to get a firearm.


We need abortion clinics at gun ranges.
 
2014-04-29 10:56:07 AM  

dittybopper: I'm willing to bet that:

1. It's illegal to possess a firearm in that area of the airport, and/or
2. It's against FedEx rules to be armed on the job.

So in this case, it's really about an unarmed pocket of society being vulnerable.

In fact, if you go back and look at the vast majority of mass shootings, they usually tend to happen where guns aren't allowed:  Schools, government buildings, and businesses where carrying is forbidden, and jurisdictions where carrying is often quite restricted or banned completely*.

But then, you *KNEW* that already, didn't you?

*The last "no-issue" state in the US was Illinois.  They are now "Shall-Issue".


Wow dude.  That's some ignorant sh*t right there.  Two mass shootings.  In Texas.  On an army base.  Mass shooting on a Navy base.

And the whole notion that gun ownership prevents assault, well, that's not backed up by the data, which states a positive correlation between gun ownership and homicide, along with a negative correlation between the strictness of gun laws and gun related violence.

But hey, you hang onto your mythology, I guess.

On a side note, I'm not sure where or when the gun control debate went off the f*cking rails.  There used to be general agreement on both sides that there was a right to own weapons.  At some point over the last 20 years it's morphed into something about the ability to arm yourself with anything, anywhere, without any checks on the right whatsoever.

When did you guys lose your f*cking minds?
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2014-04-29 10:57:06 AM  

d23: Cold_Sassy: d23:

No good guy with a gun EVER stops the shooting spree.  It wasn't a comment on the "gun free" workplace law.  Get a grip.

Sorry, but you are incorrect: http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/10-potential-mass-shootings-tha t -were-stopped-by-someone-wit

I know it's buzzfeed but with all the anti-gun derp you've been spouting throughout the thread, it probably won't matter.  All are verifiable.

I have been corrected about this point multiple times.  And I stand corrected.  I didn't personally know of any situation where that happened and it has nothing to do with Mother Jones.

And I don't spout "anti-gun derp." I point out people that are spouting pro-gun derp.  I think there is middle ground between "gun grabbing" and Mad Max society, unlike many black/white thinkers.


When you make a demonstrably false blanket statement that on its face value seems obviously untrue and you could easily verify the veracity of that statement yourself BEFORE screaming that it is true and yet you do not, most sensible people refer to that as derp.

I COULD be incorrect, though.
 
2014-04-29 11:00:30 AM  

Babwa Wawa: On an army base.  Mass shooting on a Navy base


Guess where else you aren't allowed to carry a gun!
 
2014-04-29 11:04:58 AM  

s2s2s2: Most of them turn their guns on themselves when guns are drawn on them. They don't want to get caught. So all your telling gets is a guy walking in with a gun, and either immediately being shot(he might get one or two), or seeing a bunch of guns drawn on him, and taking himself out, immediately. Either way, you likely end up with fewer bodies. I'm not saying everyone should have a gun. I certainly don't want to have to carry one. I'm just saying that this isn't as simple as "ban guns".


 I would be willing to bet majority of the shooters go in knowing they are not going to live afterward.  Do you really think it matters to them if the it ends up being the cops, another armed person, or themselves that ends up pulling the trigger?

So you really think that a armed person could stop a shooter before he pops off a few rounds?  You watch too many movies.  I would be willing to bet that majority of CCW people would duck and run when bullets start.  People are not going to all pull their gun out like some old western movie and the bad guy is going to drop his gun and run out the door.

There is such a small section of people that say "ban guns" and gun nutters love them because they get to use them as examples.  Just the same as anti-religous people love to point out how religous fanatics fire bomb planned parenthood centers.
 
2014-04-29 11:07:08 AM  

R.A.Danny: d23: I think there is middle ground between "gun grabbing" and Mad Max society, unlike many black/white thinkers.

Are we in some type of Mad Max society? Last I looked crime had dropped.


It has, that's why outside of Chicago and Detroit these kinds of things make huge headlines.
 
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