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(Daily Mail)   What one has to do in order to hide one's pregnancy from marketers is astounding in this age of the internet   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 32
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2014-04-29 08:34:58 AM  
Did the marketers ever catch on? If not, how do we know whether the lengths she went to are necessary or overkill? Did she have the baby yet? Did the Daily Mail just ruin the experiment or is it over already?

For that matter, did the Rite Aid notifying authorities and her "dark turn" in using TOR lead to any issues or did they just throw that in at the end to sound edgy?

I'm pretty sure journalism used to be about raising questions and then answering them. What the hell ever happened to that second step?
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-04-29 09:02:32 AM  
To do the study properly they need some control mothers. One of them blabs on Facebook like a stereotypical woman. One quits Facebook but buys from Amazon. And so on.

For the instances where online was the only option

So if you aren't online, you can't have a baby?  Or is she just a gullible consumer who has to have that stroller with the charging outlet for her cell phone even if it costs $500 and ruins her study?
 
2014-04-29 11:01:12 AM  
So... "don't use facebook" and "pay in cash." That's a whole lot of steps right there.
 
2014-04-29 12:04:18 PM  

ZAZ: To do the study properly they need some control mothers. One of them blabs on Facebook like a stereotypical woman. One quits Facebook but buys from Amazon. And so on.

For the instances where online was the only option

So if you aren't online, you can't have a baby?  Or is she just a gullible consumer who has to have that stroller with the charging outlet for her cell phone even if it costs $500 and ruins her study?


Yeah, reading that the first thought was "wait a minute... what do you have to get online?" You basically need bottles and diapers... everything else is a "nice to have". And I can't imagine what "nice to have" you can't get locally, especially in a big city. I bet she wasn't willing to step foot in a Wal-Mart or a Target.


If she really gives a shiat about marketing, why does she have a facebook account?
 
2014-04-29 12:08:29 PM  
New York laws dictate that Rite Aid has to report the 'excessive transactions' to the authorities since it is a practice associated with shadier dealings.
Another darker twist came when she turned to Tor, an untraceable internet browser that has been associated with illegal dealings like that of drug dealers or bitcoin exchanges.
'Those kinds of activities, when you take them in the aggregate ... are exactly the kinds of things that tag you as likely engaging in criminal activity, as opposed to just having a baby,' she said.



This I think is the biggest thing I take issue with.  If I want to purchase 500 dollars in gift cards, the government has no business sticking their noses into whatever I'm doing.  And there is nothing wrong with using TOR which has perfectly legal uses.
 
2014-04-29 12:13:23 PM  
So this is for women who don't know how to properly use email filtering to catch junk mail and are incapable of ignoring website ads?

I find those things much easier to do then using cash for pregnancy related shopping, but maybe that's just me.
 
2014-04-29 12:14:12 PM  
I don't know how marketers found out I'm Latina. I get mailings and telemarketing calls in Spanish, and that was before Facebook. And I don't buy Juanes records or Latino-specific things on Amazon. By the way, do they know a lot of Latinos don't speak Spanish? Also, somehow random people know my friend has an Audi. He got an Audi-related scam insurance marketing mailing the other day. I don't know, I just think it's weird how marketers just know stuff.

Also, I took a Republican ballot in a primary one time (for lulz) and suddenly all the Republican candidates were sending me their crap mail. But I understand perfectly why that happened.
 
2014-04-29 12:19:34 PM  
"Latino-specific things" intrigue me.
 
2014-04-29 12:26:01 PM  

Needlessly Complicated: I don't know how marketers found out I'm Latina. I get mailings and telemarketing calls in Spanish, and that was before Facebook. And I don't buy Juanes records or Latino-specific things on Amazon. By the way, do they know a lot of Latinos don't speak Spanish? Also, somehow random people know my friend has an Audi. He got an Audi-related scam insurance marketing mailing the other day. I don't know, I just think it's weird how marketers just know stuff.

Also, I took a Republican ballot in a primary one time (for lulz) and suddenly all the Republican candidates were sending me their crap mail. But I understand perfectly why that happened.


it might just be shotgunning and confirmation bias, they send you several hundred emails and you respond to the "wow, they know" me ones.
 
2014-04-29 12:27:09 PM  
Try not posting about it 4 times a day on Facebook.
 
2014-04-29 12:37:07 PM  
Here's a great rule of etiquette:
If it slid out of your coont, we don't want to hear about it online.

I don't proudly post pics of every turd I plop down.
I don't was to see every farking step of the birthing process.
This includes, but is not limited to: Your farking blood diamond engagement ring. Your farking drunken shenanigans at your engagement party, Your farking roid trophy of a husband posing with you all kissy wissy all over the place. Your farking wedding, Your farking stupid relatives at your farking wedding, your fugly fat bridesmaids in their fugly fat bridesmaid dresses, your farking honeymoon, your farking babby bump, your farking babby shower, your farking babby all red and wrinkly and shait, your farking babby with food all over its mouth, your farking babby covering the best part of your swollen teats, your farking babby dressed in ridiculous outfits, your farking babby looking at the camera like a farking babby zombie. In fact, the only people on the net that actually want to see a picture of your farking babby are babby farkiers and you are only encouraging them, you sick enabler.
I Don't want to hear about babby poop, babby pee, babby this, or babby that.
just STFU about your precious babby until it does something remarkable, like move the fark out of the house and invent a farking cure for either cancer or attention whores. Either one.

I'm waiting.
 
2014-04-29 12:39:03 PM  

Needlessly Complicated: By the way, do they know a lot of Latinos don't speak Spanish?


I have yet to meet one that does.
Proper Spanish, that is.
I get a lot of "I Speek dee EEspaneesh. "
from them.
 
2014-04-29 12:49:08 PM  
I love the ads that Airmiles sends me. I get a mailer every couple months with some excellent coupons for things I actually buy on a regular basis. They can track me all they want.

It's also a great way to track fraud on your electronic identity. If you start getting strange ads, someone is using your ID.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-04-29 01:03:57 PM  
The first time I got that "your car warranty is about to expire!" call my car warranty truly was about to expire.
 
2014-04-29 01:23:43 PM  
I found out my wife was pregnant when we got a thing of Enfamil in the mail. I think that's how she found out too. I swear, those companies have the ultrasound machines hacked and get a notification when a heartbeat is detected.

vudukungfu: I'm waiting.


I know you're probably trolling since you're waiting, but maybe don't friend females on Facebook, especially those who have or want to have babies? I mean, babies are one of the most important things to many females. Of course they'll talk about them on FB.

/blocked updates from most of the moms on my list
/"guilty" of posting occasional baby/kid pics and video
/that's what FB is for
 
2014-04-29 01:29:13 PM  

Needlessly Complicated: I don't know how marketers found out I'm Latina. I get mailings and telemarketing calls in Spanish, and that was before Facebook. And I don't buy Juanes records or Latino-specific things on Amazon. By the way, do they know a lot of Latinos don't speak Spanish?


Could it just be where you live?  I'm as non-latino as you can get, and I get plenty of telemarking calls in Spanish (90% are pre-recorded), as well as Spanish language mailings.  This all started when I moved to Southern California.  (I also occasionally get marketing calls in Vietnamese)
 
2014-04-29 02:17:12 PM  

Delta1212: Did the marketers ever catch on? If not, how do we know whether the lengths she went to are necessary or overkill? Did she have the baby yet? Did the Daily Mail just ruin the experiment or is it over already?

For that matter, did the Rite Aid notifying authorities and her "dark turn" in using TOR lead to any issues or did they just throw that in at the end to sound edgy?

I'm pretty sure journalism used to be about raising questions and then answering them. What the hell ever happened to that second step?


I don't know, what happened to the second step?  here you are raising a question and not answering it.  some journalist you are.
 
2014-04-29 02:24:17 PM  
What was creepy is that Safeway gave us a coupon for catfood for the first time in years and bf and I had just started talking about getting a cat this week. Does Safeway have a direct line to my google history? Microphone in our house?

Yeah, more likely a coincidence since bf had cats many years ago...but it's easy to be suspicious when you dont trust marketers.
 
2014-04-29 02:24:27 PM  

Warlordtrooper: New York laws dictate that Rite Aid has to report the 'excessive transactions' to the authorities since it is a practice associated with shadier dealings.
Another darker twist came when she turned to Tor, an untraceable internet browser that has been associated with illegal dealings like that of drug dealers or bitcoin exchanges.
'Those kinds of activities, when you take them in the aggregate ... are exactly the kinds of things that tag you as likely engaging in criminal activity, as opposed to just having a baby,' she said.


This I think is the biggest thing I take issue with.  If I want to purchase 500 dollars in gift cards, the government has no business sticking their noses into whatever I'm doing.  And there is nothing wrong with using TOR which has perfectly legal uses.


I am with you here, but this is a lost battle.  It has happened for years when making large cash deposits to a bank or being stopped by police.  Apparently, it is illegal to carry too much legal tender.
 
2014-04-29 02:26:48 PM  

skrame: I know you're probably trolling .......
/that's what FB is for


Ranting.
They ALLLLLLLLLLLLL POST BABBY CRAP.
Like their raison  d'être is  to breed, therefore they are validated.

no.
Cure farking cancer.
fix some broken shait.
Show me how much you have done with this world.

not all of them are sticky like that.
First girl I ever kissed is a welder in Alaska. She owns a home there and in WV.
That's hot.
I'm impressed with her.
 
2014-04-29 02:36:33 PM  

vudukungfu: skrame: I know you're probably trolling .......
/that's what FB is for

Ranting.
They ALLLLLLLLLLLLL POST BABBY CRAP.
Like their raison  d'être is  to breed, therefore they are validated.

no.
Cure farking cancer.
fix some broken shait.
Show me how much you have done with this world.

not all of them are sticky like that.
First girl I ever kissed is a welder in Alaska. She owns a home there and in WV.
That's hot.
I'm impressed with her.


Most of the blame goes to the grandparents and other members of their family.  Those are the ones who want to see the pictures of the baby.  So your problem isn't with new moms, it is with families wanting to see other members of their family.  Which they wouldn't have to do if they all just lived on the same farm and never left the plantation.  The nerve of families wanting to see each other when they live more than five miles away from each other.  Same goes with Thanksgiving traffic, can't all those people just cook a turkey in their own house and not clog up the freeways trying to get to some other house?
 
2014-04-29 03:45:28 PM  

skrame: I found out my wife was pregnant when we got a thing of Enfamil in the mail. I think that's how she found out too. I swear, those companies have the ultrasound machines hacked and get a notification when a heartbeat is detected.


So how is my kid doing?

What is the shelf life on formula.  I could have swarn that it was 6 months.
 
2014-04-29 04:38:36 PM  
I bought maternity clothes online and then I started getting bottles of baby formula in the mail.  The only thing I can think is that they got the info from Amazon, Old Navy, or my credit card company.
 
2014-04-29 04:52:29 PM  

vudukungfu: skrame: I know you're probably trolling .......
/that's what FB is for

Ranting.
They ALLLLLLLLLLLLL POST BABBY CRAP.
Like their raison  d'être is  to breed, therefore they are validated.

no.
Cure farking cancer.
fix some broken shait.
Show me how much you have done with this world.

not all of them are sticky like that.
First girl I ever kissed is a welder in Alaska. She owns a home there and in WV.
That's hot.
I'm impressed with her.


I certainly wish your mother hadn't bred.
 
2014-04-29 04:55:30 PM  

Hyjamon: vudukungfu: skrame: I know you're probably trolling .......
/that's what FB is for

Ranting.
They ALLLLLLLLLLLLL POST BABBY CRAP.
Like their raison  d'être is  to breed, therefore they are validated.

no.
Cure farking cancer.
fix some broken shait.
Show me how much you have done with this world.

not all of them are sticky like that.
First girl I ever kissed is a welder in Alaska. She owns a home there and in WV.
That's hot.
I'm impressed with her.

Most of the blame goes to the grandparents and other members of their family.  Those are the ones who want to see the pictures of the baby.  So your problem isn't with new moms, it is with families wanting to see other members of their family.  Which they wouldn't have to do if they all just lived on the same farm and never left the plantation.  The nerve of families wanting to see each other when they live more than five miles away from each other.  Same goes with Thanksgiving traffic, can't all those people just cook a turkey in their own house and not clog up the freeways trying to get to some other house?


How about we stop biatching about what other people post on Facebook? If you don't want to look at pictures of someone's baby or read someone's inane political rant scroll the farking page up or down or de-friend them. Or you can block their posts entirely. Lots of options there that would work far better than biatching about it to each other anonymously on another site that's not Facebook.
 
2014-04-29 05:26:51 PM  

Hyjamon: Warlordtrooper: New York laws dictate that Rite Aid has to report the 'excessive transactions' to the authorities since it is a practice associated with shadier dealings.
Another darker twist came when she turned to Tor, an untraceable internet browser that has been associated with illegal dealings like that of drug dealers or bitcoin exchanges.
'Those kinds of activities, when you take them in the aggregate ... are exactly the kinds of things that tag you as likely engaging in criminal activity, as opposed to just having a baby,' she said.


This I think is the biggest thing I take issue with.  If I want to purchase 500 dollars in gift cards, the government has no business sticking their noses into whatever I'm doing.  And there is nothing wrong with using TOR which has perfectly legal uses.

I am with you here, but this is a lost battle.  It has happened for years when making large cash deposits to a bank or being stopped by police.  Apparently, it is illegal to carry too much legal tender.


The problem in her case is dumping $500 in cash on gift cards. ALL gift cards have a max of $500. Her problem was New York being extra dickish. Here in CT at one of the other big pharmacy chains we have a limit of $500 per person per day in gift cards because it's a money laundering issue. Gift cards and especially Green Dot cards are pretty suspicious if you keep coming in and loading the max amount of cash. It's just as suspicious as you and your spouse getting $1,000 in gift cards in two transactions because you're trying to get around the limits.

Had she used her credit card to buy the Amazon cards they might have just checked her ID and swiped the card. But nooo, she's got a bug up her butt about data collection and mining. I doubt "big data" would find which credit card paid for the gift cards that paid for the stroller.
 
2014-04-29 05:56:10 PM  

vudukungfu: skrame: I know you're probably trolling .......
/that's what FB is for

Ranting.
They ALLLLLLLLLLLLL POST BABBY CRAP.
Like their raison  d'être is  to breed, therefore they are validated.

no.
Cure farking cancer.
fix some broken shait.
Show me how much you have done with this world.

not all of them are sticky like that.
First girl I ever kissed is a welder in Alaska. She owns a home there and in WV.
That's hot.
I'm impressed with her.


Meh. Not that impressive. I'm not wealthy, but could probably put a house in Alaska and a house in WV on my HELOC and not really feel the extra payment. Actually, I could probably pull the change out of my couch cushions and buy a house in WV.

Raising kids is tough. Tougher than welding.

/trololololol
 
2014-04-29 06:50:19 PM  
Her ideas about the value of pregnant mothers to marketers is based in facts, as an average non-pregnant person's data is worth 10 cents to marketers, while the identity and information about a pregnant woman is $1.50.

AKA just another thing for pregnant women to feel smug about.
 
2014-04-29 06:53:54 PM  

Hyjamon: vudukungfu: skrame: I know you're probably trolling .......
/that's what FB is for

Ranting.
They ALLLLLLLLLLLLL POST BABBY CRAP.
Like their raison  d'être is  to breed, therefore they are validated.

no.
Cure farking cancer.
fix some broken shait.
Show me how much you have done with this world.

not all of them are sticky like that.
First girl I ever kissed is a welder in Alaska. She owns a home there and in WV.
That's hot.
I'm impressed with her.

Most of the blame goes to the grandparents and other members of their family.  Those are the ones who want to see the pictures of the baby.  So your problem isn't with new moms, it is with families wanting to see other members of their family.  Which they wouldn't have to do if they all just lived on the same farm and never left the plantation.  The nerve of families wanting to see each other when they live more than five miles away from each other.  Same goes with Thanksgiving traffic, can't all those people just cook a turkey in their own house and not clog up the freeways trying to get to some other house?


It's soooooo hard to set up a filter to make sure that only family see the family stuff. Or to send private messages. Soooo harrrrd.
 
2014-04-29 10:24:46 PM  
Marketers have been actively targeting pregnant women for a while. Look up the story from a couple of years ago when a families purchasing habits changed. They added a couple of things to there purchases that flagged "PREGNANT WOMAN IN HOUSEHOLD" and suddenly all of the Target advertising for that household was geared toward expectant mothers. The father of the expectant teenager was none to happy to find out that Target knew she was pregnant before he did.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2012/02/16/how-target-figure d- out-a-teen-girl-was-pregnant-before-her-father-did/

On a closer note: Nine months after we got married, all my wife got was baby ads on facebook. She still gets "To mother and child" ads in the mail.

/No kids.
 
2014-04-30 05:56:05 AM  

Needlessly Complicated: I don't know how marketers found out I'm Latina. I get mailings and telemarketing calls in Spanish, and that was before Facebook. And I don't buy Juanes records or Latino-specific things on Amazon. By the way, do they know a lot of Latinos don't speak Spanish? Also, somehow random people know my friend has an Audi. He got an Audi-related scam insurance marketing mailing the other day. I don't know, I just think it's weird how marketers just know stuff.

Also, I took a Republican ballot in a primary one time (for lulz) and suddenly all the Republican candidates were sending me their crap mail. But I understand perfectly why that happened.


A blonde, blue-eyed friend of mine married a Hernandez a couple of years back, and now she's getting all sorts of junk mail in Spanish, so I suspect anything that hints at it is enough for them to gamble that Spanish-language ads will somehow make you gratified that they're accommodating you.
 
2014-04-30 08:26:05 AM  

vudukungfu: If it slid out of your coont, we don't want to hear about it online.

I don't proudly post pics of every turd I plop down.


If you are pooping out of your coont then I would LOVE to see pics of it on the internet, or if you have a baby out your ass that would be picture worthy also.
 
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