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(Examiner)   Eric Holder has approved drone strikes against the Bundy Ranch. STUDY IT OUT   (examiner.com) divider line 256
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2014-04-29 12:19:01 AM  
 "or is it absolute bull to have us put out false info and destroy our credibility"...

Yes... THIS is what will destroy your credibility...
 
2014-04-29 12:27:42 AM  
I am pretty sure Eric Holder doesn't have the authority to tell the DoD to do jack shiat.
 
2014-04-29 12:29:11 AM  
The comments make Breitbart look like the Algonquin Round Table.

My favorite was the dude with the Confederate Flag upset about the government killing Americans.
 
2014-04-29 01:33:59 AM  
If only.
 
2014-04-29 01:41:41 AM  

Sgt Otter: The comments make Breitbart look like the Algonquin Round Table.

My favorite was the dude with the Confederate Flag upset about the government killing Americans.


Whoa, I think some of those commenters are going to be getting a visit from men in suits and shiny badges. Love the trolls there, actually lol'd.

Laffy  Patriot •
LOL!! You think "your guns" would actually stop Obama if he really wanted you hillbillies dead?
And who are you going to shoot, Cletus?


Laffy, what's your Fark handle?
 
2014-04-29 03:10:19 AM  
BS story? Oh HELLS yeah

Holder isn't an idiot. Dropping a bomb on American soil against civilians is political suicide regardless of it being justified or no.
 
2014-04-29 08:13:50 AM  
With all the nuke testing that went on in that area back in the 50s I really don't think one more would hurt
 
2014-04-29 08:27:28 AM  
I thought they decided to put a lien on his cattle. That escalated quickly.
 
2014-04-29 08:27:51 AM  

Sgt Otter: The comments make Breitbart look like the Algonquin Round Table.

My favorite was the dude with the Confederate Flag upset about the government killing Americans.


Americans = white people.
 
2014-04-29 08:34:12 AM  
My  brother's ex-girlfriend's mom's stepuncle told me the same thing in a FWD:FWD:FWD: email
 
2014-04-29 08:38:19 AM  
I'm all for this.

Cows + Hellfire Missiles = Excellent BBQ
 
2014-04-29 08:39:30 AM  
Next thing you know, the Surgeon General will move us to DEFCON 3.
 
2014-04-29 08:40:23 AM  
I wonder if the anonymous old "Study it out" lady is aware she has become the standard by which her kind are mocked.
 
2014-04-29 08:41:18 AM  
So "report" = "info that may or may not be true as told by a third party".

Got it.
 
2014-04-29 08:41:27 AM  

OutLawSuit: I'm all for this.

Cows + Hellfire Missiles = Excellent BBQ


Nah, that's overcooked.  Weapons that burn through a foot of steel?  What's left of the cow won't be tasty.
 
2014-04-29 08:42:50 AM  

Notabunny: I thought they decided to put a lien on his cattle. That escalated quickly.


But remember: If you lien on them too hard, they tip over.
 
2014-04-29 08:43:48 AM  

Ambivalence: I am pretty sure Eric Holder doesn't have the authority to tell the DoD to do jack shiat.


Well Chuck Hagel isn't black, so it's not as scary.
 
2014-04-29 08:43:53 AM  
FW:FW:FW:FW:FW: I am told the FEMA camp cafeterias will be nothing like the Golden Corral. Apparently, they won't even have a chocolate fountain.
 
2014-04-29 08:43:58 AM  

Alphax: OutLawSuit: I'm all for this.

Cows + Hellfire Missiles = Excellent BBQ

Nah, that's overcooked.  Weapons that burn through a foot of steel?  What's left of the cow won't be tasty.


Jerky, then?
 
2014-04-29 08:44:13 AM  
Rand Paul actualy gave the order. You see if you rob a liquor store of fifty bucks that's a droneable offense. If you steal the use of land to the tune of a million dollars for twenty years well that's no question a droneable offense.

Also the founder of the oath keepers says so it must be true.
 
2014-04-29 08:44:14 AM  
One of the consequences of you not acknowledging the US gov't and then pointing weapons at its agents is that you become an Enemy Combatant.

/am i doing this right?
 
2014-04-29 08:44:19 AM  
So the Fed didnt sell his cattle because they didn't want to further escalate things but they would drone strike his ass? Seems legit.
 
2014-04-29 08:45:08 AM  
i196.photobucket.com
 
2014-04-29 08:45:28 AM  
The Oathkeepers would love nothing more than for this to happen. It would give credence to their whack-a-doodle desires.'

btw....the link to the actual conversation is borked and the entire story is peppered with the usual "vetted sources" that seemingly have no names. Not to mention the "this could be real, but we don't know" disclaimers

i.imgur.com
 
2014-04-29 08:46:47 AM  

Alphax: OutLawSuit: I'm all for this.

Cows + Hellfire Missiles = Excellent BBQ

Nah, that's overcooked.  Weapons that burn through a foot of steel?  What's left of the cow won't be tasty.


Overcooked is overrated. I'd eat overcooked over  veggie on any given day.
 
2014-04-29 08:48:05 AM  
A friend of mine told me that his sister was talking to a teacher and he said that he heard how the mayor was on the phone to the sheriff when some tech in the phone company or maybe it was the cable company, I cant remember which. Anyway he accidentally overheard the FBI was going to call Obama but he was out in Japan or something so they had to check with this Holden or Holder guy first before they could do anything. What I heard was that Holden er Holder, whatever, was dead certain that the drones would be in by next Tuesday at the latest
 
2014-04-29 08:49:22 AM  
On Friday, John Jacob Schmidt of said that according to Stewart Rhodes, founder of Oath Keepers, Fark user Jackson Herring has a 17-foot long penis
 
2014-04-29 08:49:29 AM  

Ambivalence: I am pretty sure Eric Holder doesn't have the authority to tell the DoD to do jack shiat.


I've been assured by top RAND PAULS that while it is illegal for Holder to do this, it IS legal for a state agency to use drones to execute anyone they want.
 
2014-04-29 08:49:52 AM  
Well, if there has to be a test case about droning Americans on American soil, might as well be this idiot.
 
2014-04-29 08:50:09 AM  
The Oathkeeper's DoD source? I found them.

nicedeb.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-04-29 08:50:50 AM  
www.foxcrawl.com

Now I'm not saying it was aliens. But...
i.imgur.com
 
2014-04-29 08:51:10 AM  
I can't wait to hear my brother-in-law quoting this article, except stating that the strike went through and it got covered up.  His statement will come some time after Bundy is waiting for trial.

/No, not really.  B-i-l's addiction to far right talk radio is the reason I would rather go to Afghanistan than a family dinner.
 
2014-04-29 08:52:26 AM  

homelessdude: The Oathkeepers would love nothing more than for this to happen. It would give credence to their whack-a-doodle desires.'

btw....the link to the actual conversation is borked and the entire story is peppered with the usual "vetted sources" that seemingly have no names. Not to mention the "this could be real, but we don't know" disclaimers

[i.imgur.com image 125x87]


no no no

It was for sure going to happen, but now that it has come out in the news, it won't happen.  The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence.  When you don't see drone strikes blowing up the ranch, then you will see I'm right
 
2014-04-29 08:52:58 AM  
i.imgur.com

oathkeepers
 
2014-04-29 08:53:44 AM  

Laobaojun: I can't wait to hear my brother-in-law quoting this article, except stating that the strike went through and it got covered up.  His statement will come some time after Bundy is waiting for trial.

/No, not really.  B-i-l's addiction to far right talk radio is the reason I would rather go to Afghanistan than a family dinner.


No, Michelle Obama personally gave the order to attack but at the last minute the crew of the drone refused to carry out the attack and instead flew the drone to Mexico to blow up cartel members who were planning to cross the boarder illegally to make tacos pastor in Houston and man I could go for some farking tacos right now.
 
2014-04-29 08:54:17 AM  
Would someone please think of the children.

llwproductions.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-04-29 08:54:58 AM  

Jackson Herring: [i.imgur.com image 720x960]

oathkeepers


What's with the half used roll of toilette paper on the counter.
 
2014-04-29 08:57:34 AM  

Satanic_Hamster: Jackson Herring: [i.imgur.com image 720x960]

oathkeepers

What's with the half used roll of toilette paper on the counter.


He'll use that later for masterbating..
 
2014-04-29 08:58:09 AM  
"So is this disinformation to get the boots on the ground to evacuate the scene so that BLM people can move in Waco style, or is it absolute bull to have us put out false info and destroy our credibility," the blog asked. During an interview with Schmidt, Rhodes said it is possible the report could be part of a disinformation campaign. The person who reportedly gave the information, he said, believes what he heard.

I love how they won't even entertain the idea that they are just wrong. the only way they can be wrong is if it's STILL a government conspiracy to make them look wrong.
 
2014-04-29 08:58:26 AM  

Mad Scientist: I wonder if the anonymous old "Study it out" lady is aware she has become the standard by which her kind are mocked.


You obviously haven't done your homework.
 
2014-04-29 08:58:36 AM  

gilatrout: A friend of mine told me that his sister was talking to a teacher and he said that he heard how the mayor was on the phone to the sheriff when some tech in the phone company or maybe it was the cable company, I cant remember which. Anyway he accidentally overheard the FBI was going to call Obama but he was out in Japan or something so they had to check with this Holden or Holder guy first before they could do anything. What I heard was that Holden er Holder, whatever, was dead certain that the drones would be in by next Tuesday at the latest


I guess it's pretty serious.
 
2014-04-29 08:59:17 AM  
Wow, I knew Examiner was bad, but I didn't realize it was this bad:

Suggested by the author
Liberal hatemongers mad BLM didn't attack Bundy ranch
Liberals on Twitter demand feds kill Bundy family, supporters with drones
Liberalism: An ideology of rage and hate
Do liberals really want a second civil war in America?
Harry Reid: Bundy supporters 'domestic terrorists,' hints at federal task force


...and the picture of the author has him playing a banjo.  I don't even know what to think anymore.
 
2014-04-29 09:00:05 AM  

Brick-House: Would someone please think of the children.

[llwproductions.files.wordpress.com image 468x286]


I thought the plan was to put the women and children on the front-line?
 
2014-04-29 09:00:33 AM  
Oh my, there are some incredible comments on there.

Mary Beerman •
DEAR
LADY or should I say CIA or NSA agent or Obamabot?
I am Canadian not American.
Im gonna tell you how I first found out what a dangerous pathological liar & maniac your great leader is & just how perilous the life of every American with THAT piece of demonic garbage at the helm.

GOD connected me ONLINE to a relative of CHRIS STEVENS in 2009. (Remember Im CANADIAN)

And it goes on and on.
 
2014-04-29 09:01:39 AM  

Arkanaut: ...and the picture of the author has him playing a banjo.  I don't even know what to think anymore.


learn to squeal like a pig.
 
DGS [TotalFark]
2014-04-29 09:02:16 AM  

Arkanaut: Wow, I knew Examiner was bad, but I didn't realize it was this bad:

Suggested by the author
Liberal hatemongers mad BLM didn't attack Bundy ranch
Liberals on Twitter demand feds kill Bundy family, supporters with drones
Liberalism: An ideology of rage and hate
Do liberals really want a second civil war in America?
Harry Reid: Bundy supporters 'domestic terrorists,' hints at federal task force

...and the picture of the author has him playing a banjo.  I don't even know what to think anymore.


Yeah, that's part of what makes it comedic and pathetically absurd at the same time. It's the ultra serious tone that really sends it over the top.
 
2014-04-29 09:03:37 AM  

Jackson Herring: [i.imgur.com image 720x960]

oathkeepers


More like "oatkeeper." Woof. At least I'm trying to cut back.
 
2014-04-29 09:07:53 AM  
The attorney general can send drone strikes?
 
2014-04-29 09:08:16 AM  
Someone in a group called "Oath Keepers" is a dishonest piece of shiat? That's about as appropriate as James O'Keefe calling his group "Project Veritas".

Unless the "oath" that these guys are keeping is a promise to be a moronic dipshiat.
 
2014-04-29 09:09:07 AM  
oh wow. I just found out that the guy who said  "We were actually strategizing to put all the women up at the front. If they're gonna start shooting, it's going to be women that are gonna be televised all across the world getting shot by these rogue federal officers." during the Bundy thing, was an oath keeper.

Richard Mack
 
2014-04-29 09:10:12 AM  
Someone from the FBI or BLM should fly a radio controlled airplane around the ranch near where the militia is hunkered down... just for shiats and grins.
 
2014-04-29 09:12:01 AM  

whyRpeoplesostupid: [i196.photobucket.com image 700x946]


Wow!! His name is my name too!!
 
2014-04-29 09:12:42 AM  
Can the government just sort of mind-fark them for a while? Maybe have some guys get out of military vehicle and obviously surveil them for a while. Have black helicopters fly by, maybe have an AWAC circle overhead. The full Dale Gribble treatment.

/okay none of that's probably a good idea ;p
 
2014-04-29 09:13:35 AM  
I want a Cliven Bundy / Donald Sterling reality show.  We put them both in the projects / some poor area with a large African-American population and film it.
 
2014-04-29 09:13:39 AM  

Sgt Otter: The comments make Breitbart look like the Algonquin Round Table.

My favorite was the dude with the Confederate Flag upset about the government killing Americans.


I'm getting a kick out of the dipshiats who are flat out insisting that Holder was heavily involved in Waco.
 
2014-04-29 09:13:45 AM  

log_jammin: "So is this disinformation to get the boots on the ground to evacuate the scene so that BLM people can move in Waco style, or is it absolute bull to have us put out false info and destroy our credibility," the blog asked. During an interview with Schmidt, Rhodes said it is possible the report could be part of a disinformation campaign. The person who reportedly gave the information, he said, believes what he heard.

I love how they won't even entertain the idea that they are just wrong. the only way they can be wrong is if it's STILL a government conspiracy to make them look wrong.


This smells like a coworker prank to me.  "You know Johnson, the guy who works in billing and listens to Rush Limbaugh every morning?  I bet if we passed by during commercials and talked about striking Bundy Ranch, he'd buy it."
 
2014-04-29 09:13:48 AM  

log_jammin: oh wow. I just found out that the guy who said  "We were actually strategizing to put all the women up at the front. If they're gonna start shooting, it's going to be women that are gonna be televised all across the world getting shot by these rogue federal officers." during the Bundy thing, was an oath keeper.

Richard Mack


The potato does not fall far from the tree.
 
2014-04-29 09:14:07 AM  
So, these militia guys, do they get paid for this shiat? Or are they just all retired and/or unemployed? Seems like they'd have a life to get back to. Speaking for myself, I sure wouldn't want to be stuck in that place for that long, far from home.

It also seems like the feds should just wait for these guys to leave the ranch, and arrest them as they go. Or ID them, and then arrest them in their homes. They threatened the lives of federal agents, that's pretty farking serious.
 
2014-04-29 09:14:34 AM  

Jackson Herring: [i.imgur.com image 720x960]

oathkeepers


Is that the "Are You A Wizard?" guy?
 
2014-04-29 09:14:50 AM  

Jackson Herring: [i.imgur.com image 720x960]

oathkeepers


loafeaters
 
2014-04-29 09:15:51 AM  

Satanic_Hamster: I've been assured by top RAND PAULS that while it is illegal for Holder to do this, it IS legal for a state agency to use drones to execute anyone they want.


Who?
 
2014-04-29 09:16:27 AM  

Muta: Someone from the FBI or BLM should fly a radio controlled airplane around the ranch near where the militia is hunkered down... just for shiats and grins.


*shakes tiny fist*
 
2014-04-29 09:17:37 AM  
He should. Bundy deserves to get his shiat wrecked on general principle for having had his "militia" all bunched in together like he did. You don't just stand there and dare the government to come kill you, straight-up battles are for forces of comparable size and strength.
 
2014-04-29 09:18:42 AM  

Muta: Someone from the FBI or BLM should fly a radio controlled airplane around the ranch near where the militia is hunkered down... just for shiats and grins.


Hell, if I was in the area, I'd do that myself. Don't need a badge to fark with these people.
 
2014-04-29 09:19:40 AM  
Speaking of the comments on that story, there is no way that this isn't Pocket...

LIBERTIES2DAY  Mary Beerman • a day ago

DEAR
LADY or should I say CIA or NSA agent or Obamabot?
I am Canadian not American.

Im gonna tell you how I first found out what a dangerous pathological liar & maniac your great leader is & just how perilous the life of every American with THAT piece of demonic garbage at the helm.  GOD connected me ONLINE to a relative of CHRIS STEVENS in 2009. (Remember Im CANADIAN)

I didnt even know this person was a relative of Amb Chris Stevens till SEPT 15 2012 & that person was just as duped as Id been about a"Video".
That connection in 2009 was DIVINE INTERVENTION because GOD knew the TRUTH about what your horrible , evil , pathological liar , narcisIsitic ,cruel evil pig and his cronies in the WH were about to DO and He was about to show ME ; a CANADIAN!

In DEC 2013, SUPERNATURALLY He then showed me in a VISION what REALLY took place in Benghazi , then SUPERNATURALLY led me to an INSIDE SOURCE whom revealed step by step Obamas complete involvement in
CHRIS STEVENS death ( and the others).

Only then was my eyes opened to the horror of this demonic manifestion that sits in your White House whom would utterly DESTROY your country in due time including YOUR LIFE madam because he really doesnt give a crap about you , nor Al Sharpton( as that "wolf in sheeps clothing has been fooled to believe )- except to USE you both for his personal gain, then he will "be done with you".

But you're too stupid and brainwashed to even notice this .
Nor does it even cross your mind to ASK GOD FIRST about this lying, narcisstic con artist , street thug & his evil side kick HOLDER &how he is about to wipe out everything that is near and dear to you.

ANYWAYS, after GOD led me as He did- to the TRUTH about BENGHAZI- I then had to contact this relative and tell THAT person the TRUTH about what really happened to CHRIS ( oh and by the way that INSIDE Source has NEVER been mentioned on MAINSTREAM GARBAGE NEWS that you are brainwashed by , which I REFUSE to watch ...EVER! ).
So imagine if that was YOU lady!!
IMAGINE YOU having to tell Chris's relative that the person fully responsible for his death is the one whom is supposed to PROTECT it and that it was INTENTIONAL. That he was INTENTIONALLY left to die BY THE PRESIDENT whom was supposed to PROTECT him!.
Lo and behold if SOME of that secret information did not begin to "leak" out even unto Mainstream news 10 months later and how quickly that lying scum Barry Soetoro tried to keep it all clamped down....so even the mainstream news had to suddenly "quit" talking about it but hear me out LADY.

GOD showed it to me FIRST!

So I knew the truth.

This piece of filth that YOU are protecting and defending will not even hestitate to snuff YOU out, flash his gleaming fangs- showing off his charm- as Lying maggots come out of his mouth as he tries to mesmerize you with how great and wonderful he is and how "safe" you are in his protection.
You better grow up and grow up FAST because you are about to face horrors unspeakable in your country as many of you stupid , dumbed down "sheep" sleep- watching your brainless Boobtube junk and Miley Cyrus Videos , because you will ALL be caught unawares "like a thief in the night" simply because so many complete MORONIC IDIOTS like you CHOSE to protect and defend a piece of trash like King Obama whom will only be bringing your whole country down to destructon , including your precious DOLLAR as the WORLD RESERVE CURRENCY that you've all taken for granted- because in your fat gluttonly and greed you expect to be"entitled" to it & the majority of you dumbed down morons are too lazy to even RESEARCH about its beginnings , HOW your country got to be the one all others have been ENSLAVED by & HOW you were able to build bases all round the world to control the world with-because as a CANADIAN I know a hell of alot more then most of your Americans know about your dollar as the WORLD RESERVE CURRENCY, The Bretton Woods agreement and the SAUDI DEAL in the 70's to create the PETRO DOLLAR which YOU all take for GRANTED- but you dont give a crap about learning about your own country (heck- half of you dont even know names of your own capital cities your so dumbed down with junk food and garbage Tv), BECAUSE of how much you take it- and what has been aquired through FRAUD and MANIPULATION & CONTROL...for GRANTED and only made many of you more and more stuck up,, selfish and self centered.

WELL get ready for $10.00 loaves of BREAD lady-for starters.
Get ready for unrest and destabilization that will make what is happening at the Bundy Ranch look like a Sunday School picnic!

WHY.
Cause when you have a ROTTEN "TREE" you are gonna have ROTTEN FRUIT. Cause you CHOSE to keep a psycopathic , fraudulent, con artist patholological liar in OFFICE AND all the crooks , liars and schiesters alongside him whom should be in JAIL - instead of FIGHTING for the rights of your Constitution and demanding justice and full accountability or calling out the lying , scheming Propaganda Arm of Obama ( Obama media )-instead of CHOOSING to IGNORE it.. and only sought to demonize anyone whom EXPOSED the rotten fruit , because you are a mindless, cowardly gullble moron whom has lost your morale compass .
So shut your mouth concerning what Bundy and those BRAVE individuals are fighting for ( mainly YOUR rights, LADY) because you aint seen nothing yet , concerning what dark days lie ahead in your country.
Your days of entitlement and "priviledge " that you have been SPOILED with , are about to end and YOU , you immature , blind and stupid idiot ....are about to get a wake up call thats gonna hit you as fast as those Washington MUDSLIDES , that will test everything you got and bring you to your knees and make you reflect on what is REALLY important in your selfish , self-centered life, because I promise you this:
your dear sweet Messiah Obama will throw YOU LADY to the trash once he is done using you.
So get your priorities straight and do it FAST cause you dont have much time!
As far as Im concerned , YOU , LADY are merely a "mirror" of the lying filth that sits in your WHITE HOUSE ,There is NOTHING good and decent about YOU.
From a Canadian perspective -YOU LADY are the complete OPPOSITE of a TRUE AMERICAN.
Those at the BUNDY RANCH...those individuals are TRUE AMERICANS,not you, Obama , Holder, Pelosi , REID or any of the lying con artists that infest your Government.

But to show you just how strong the ARROGANCE of many US citizens , not ONCE do they think about how OTHER countries view them because they are so caught up in their self centeredness and greed & feelings of grandeur , of being "un-touchable " , invincible "too big to FALL or FAIL , and their stuck up PRIDE and that the whole world should "bow down to them".  I see the exact OPPOSITE of this at the Bundy Ranch.
I see there- what I grew up believing a TRUE AMERICAN SHOULD be.

Not the juvenile tripe that YOU LADY , represent,the lowest vile on earth,the decrepid cowards -so arrogant and haughty and high minded, that feel this sense of "entitlement" because you are somehow so"special", when the truth is all YOUR Government knows how to do
is MURDER & DESTROY the lives of millions, in your own country
and in the rest of the world.  Youve accomplished nothing more then this IN THE EYES OF THE REST OF THE WORLD.
The US isnt a BUILDER nor does it give a damn about "democracy".Its a destroyer & only cares about protecting the almighty Petro dollar , no matter what the cost , including overthrowing Governments through "forced regime changes" whom DARE to go against it-THEN LYING about its intents -putting the blame on another country, when the guilt of the US is far, far WORSE..

The US is a BULLY and nothing more-just like YOU LADY.
The folks at Bundy Ranch are trying to CHANGE the horrific image of the US that the rest of the world has been FORCED to have to look at and endure year in and year out, so they are ALSO taking the stand they are- FOR THE REST OF THE WORLD whom is fed up with the VICIOUSLY CRUEL and BULLY called the USSA!,NOW HOPEFULLY IVE KNOCKED YOU OFF YOUR HIGH AND MIGHTY PEDESTAL THAT YOU'VE BEEN GLOATING ON in your "ANTI-American" arrogance.
 
2014-04-29 09:20:04 AM  
This is great, so they get to have it both ways.  In the unlikely event of a massive drone strike killing dozens of citizens, they just got the biggest scoop in the world.  In the Likely event there is no drone strike, they get to say "Look what we prevented by blowing the lid off the Muslin Usurper's plan to kill Patriots at home" (Since, of course, if Bundy ever traveled overseas, as we have seen in practice, it's already legal to drone-strike him for inciting violence against the US Govt).
 
2014-04-29 09:20:50 AM  

Ambivalence: I am pretty sure Eric Holder doesn't have the authority to tell the DoD to do jack shiat.


But he's the Blah President's dark-skinned henchman!

He is Krampus to Fartbongo's evil santa
 
2014-04-29 09:21:14 AM  

Mikey1969: Sgt Otter: The comments make Breitbart look like the Algonquin Round Table.

My favorite was the dude with the Confederate Flag upset about the government killing Americans.

I'm getting a kick out of the dipshiats who are flat out insisting that Holder was heavily involved in Waco.


Well sure he was, since he was a U.S. Attorney then. Attorney, Attorney General, what's the difference?
 
2014-04-29 09:21:17 AM  

log_jammin: oh wow. I just found out that the guy who said  "We were actually strategizing to put all the women up at the front. If they're gonna start shooting, it's going to be women that are gonna be televised all across the world getting shot by these rogue federal officers." during the Bundy thing, was an oath keeper.

Richard Mack


www.puckrant.com

/He's right here waiting
 
2014-04-29 09:21:21 AM  

OutLawSuit: Cows + Hellfire Missiles = Excellent BBQ


Mmmmm, cripsy shredded beef...
 
2014-04-29 09:21:34 AM  
I first read that as "Bunny Ranch".  That would have been a very different article.
 
2014-04-29 09:21:46 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: With all the nuke testing that went on in that area back in the 50s I really don't think one more would hurt


graphics8.nytimes.com
 
2014-04-29 09:21:48 AM  

Sgt Otter: The comments make Breitbart look like the Algonquin Round Table.

My favorite was the dude with the Confederate Flag upset about the government killing Americans.


i885.photobucket.com
 
2014-04-29 09:21:52 AM  
Dafuq did I just read?

o_O
 
2014-04-29 09:22:12 AM  

CPennypacker: The attorney general can send drone strikes?


They have no idea how government works, and that different jobs within the government have different responsibilities and limits of power.
 
2014-04-29 09:22:16 AM  

mutterfark: Can the government just sort of mind-fark them for a while? Maybe have some guys get out of military vehicle and obviously surveil them for a while. Have black helicopters fly by, maybe have an AWAC circle overhead. The full Dale Gribble treatment.

/okay none of that's probably a good idea ;p


/CSB
//I work in West Chester, PA right by the American Helicopter Museum. On occasion, a Blackhawk crew from VA will come up and visit and they'll usually circle really low around the area a few times. We're a pretty "blue" area but I wonder if there are any nutters in the area that freak out when that happens.
///End CSB
 
2014-04-29 09:22:21 AM  

Mad Scientist: I wonder if the anonymous old "Study it out" lady is aware she has become the standard by which her kind are mocked.


Well..... you could study THAT out.
 
2014-04-29 09:24:30 AM  

jayhawk88: Mikey1969: Sgt Otter: The comments make Breitbart look like the Algonquin Round Table.

My favorite was the dude with the Confederate Flag upset about the government killing Americans.

I'm getting a kick out of the dipshiats who are flat out insisting that Holder was heavily involved in Waco.

Well sure he was, since he was a U.S. Attorney then. Attorney, Attorney General, what's the difference?


I remember back in the 90's, after Waco, there were lots of these nutbags insisting that Delta Force was involved in Waco, shooting women and children as they ran out of the rear of the building. Everything's always a nefarious conspiracy with them. It's either communists, muslims, or Satan. Or all three. Sometimes aliens and lizardpeople too.
 
2014-04-29 09:24:51 AM  

Khellendros: I first read that as "Bunny Ranch".  That would have been a very different article.


I hear the Bunny Ranch has a lot of cows also
 
2014-04-29 09:24:53 AM  

Mikey1969: I'm getting a kick out of the dipshiats who are flat out insisting that Holder was heavily involved in Waco.


LOLWUT
 
2014-04-29 09:25:33 AM  
The only gun that can shoot down a drone is the AR-15. Why do you think the government wants to take these? Get one while you can.
 
2014-04-29 09:26:25 AM  
 
2014-04-29 09:28:04 AM  
He cant do that, this asshat rancher aint in Philadelphia.

or black.

We have rules to this sort of thing as I understand it.
 
2014-04-29 09:28:20 AM  

TheBigJerk: Bundy gang sets up highway checkpoints.


why the fark are these assholes not in jail? they've threatened federal officials with firearms. they're blocking roads. why aren't they in jail?
 
2014-04-29 09:28:33 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: Jackson Herring: [i.imgur.com image 720x960]

oathkeepers

loafeaters


I can't decide - is "oafkeepers" funny on its own, or do I go with the more juvenile "oafqueefers"?
 
2014-04-29 09:29:52 AM  

theknuckler_33: Satanic_Hamster: I've been assured by top RAND PAULS that while it is illegal for Holder to do this, it IS legal for a state agency to use drones to execute anyone they want.

Who?


Top. Rand. Pauls.

/it belongs in a museum!
 
2014-04-29 09:30:57 AM  

Dr Dreidel: HotWingConspiracy: Jackson Herring: [i.imgur.com image 720x960]

oathkeepers

loafeaters

I can't decide - is "oafkeepers" funny on its own, or do I go with the more juvenile "oafqueefers"?


I doubt that that guy has been anywhere near a queef.
 
2014-04-29 09:31:38 AM  

Rapmaster2000: Oh my, there are some incredible comments on there.

Mary Beerman •
DEAR
LADY or should I say CIA or NSA agent or Obamabot?
I am Canadian not American.
Im gonna tell you how I first found out what a dangerous pathological liar & maniac your great leader is & just how perilous the life of every American with THAT piece of demonic garbage at the helm.
GOD connected me ONLINE to a relative of CHRIS STEVENS in 2009. (Remember Im CANADIAN)

And it goes on and on.


LOL, I just posted that whole thing... Figured it was worth studying out.
 
2014-04-29 09:32:56 AM  
Given the level of shenanigans coming out from the Bundy ranch, if the POTUS were to issue a Proclamation To Disperse, drone striking the ranch might be entirely legal.
 
2014-04-29 09:33:45 AM  

Ambivalence: I am pretty sure Eric Holder doesn't have the authority to tell the DoD to do jack shiat.


Stop understanding the mechanics of the federal government and start being more blindly afraid of it.  Stupid lib.
 
2014-04-29 09:33:57 AM  

FlashHarry: TheBigJerk: Bundy gang sets up highway checkpoints.

why the fark are these assholes not in jail? they've threatened federal officials with firearms. they're blocking roads. why aren't they in jail?


If the cops tried to arrest them, what do you think the reaction would be?  These nutjobs are just waiting for an excuse to open fire, and even peaceful arrest attempts will be the flashpoint.  Much as I'm opposed to police militarization, shiat like this is the reason for it.  About the only way this ends peacefully is to wait for the crazies to get bored/lose interest/see some new outrage and disperse on their own.
 
2014-04-29 09:35:34 AM  

Jaymark108: log_jammin: "So is this disinformation to get the boots on the ground to evacuate the scene so that BLM people can move in Waco style, or is it absolute bull to have us put out false info and destroy our credibility," the blog asked. During an interview with Schmidt, Rhodes said it is possible the report could be part of a disinformation campaign. The person who reportedly gave the information, he said, believes what he heard.

I love how they won't even entertain the idea that they are just wrong. the only way they can be wrong is if it's STILL a government conspiracy to make them look wrong.

This smells like a coworker prank to me.  "You know Johnson, the guy who works in billing and listens to Rush Limbaugh every morning?  I bet if we passed by during commercials and talked about striking Bundy Ranch, he'd buy it."


I've got a better one...
I own one of these.

images.gizmag.com

You just need to fly it past his desk a few times, bring it on, hover, and make it rotate a few times, fly it back out again. It would probably have more effect if you flew it over every time he was on the phone, or talking to someone...
 
2014-04-29 09:35:48 AM  

Last Man on Earth: About the only way this ends peacefully is to wait for the crazies to get bored/lose interest/see some new outrage and disperse on their own.


i agree. but they still need to face justice after the fact.
 
2014-04-29 09:36:44 AM  

Mikey1969: there is no way that this isn't Pocket...


Wow.  I have no idea what the poster looks like, and yet I can vividly see the veins throbbing in their forehead.
 
2014-04-29 09:37:26 AM  

Mikey1969: Rapmaster2000: Oh my, there are some incredible comments on there.

Mary Beerman •
DEAR
LADY or should I say CIA or NSA agent or Obamabot?
I am Canadian not American.
Im gonna tell you how I first found out what a dangerous pathological liar & maniac your great leader is & just how perilous the life of every American with THAT piece of demonic garbage at the helm.
GOD connected me ONLINE to a relative of CHRIS STEVENS in 2009. (Remember Im CANADIAN)

And it goes on and on.

LOL, I just posted that whole thing... Figured it was worth studying out.


I enjoy the repeated reminders that she is a CANADIAN.
 
2014-04-29 09:37:50 AM  
Armed insurrection against the federal government over one's petty bills should have been handled as immediately, extremely, and with the most prejudice our bloated military machine could muster.

I literally wish they would have been trying to sort this guy's bits out of his
family's with a sieve.
 
2014-04-29 09:38:38 AM  

gilatrout: A friend of mine told me that his sister was talking to a teacher and he said that he heard how the mayor was on the phone to the sheriff when some tech in the phone company or maybe it was the cable company, ...


I think they were just looking to cut off his cable TV. They knew it would draw him out.
 
2014-04-29 09:39:27 AM  
Please tell me the guy's name also includes "Jingleheimer" and they just omitted it to save space.
 
2014-04-29 09:39:41 AM  

FlashHarry: i agree. but they still need to face justice after the fact.


Yeah, 2nd amendment includes the right to own a gun, not the right to threaten to shoot people.  Every one of these farkers needs to be arrested on an intimidation charge, offered a plea bargin that includes community service, and lose their rights to weapons forever as ex-cons.
 
2014-04-29 09:40:11 AM  

FlashHarry: Mikey1969: I'm getting a kick out of the dipshiats who are flat out insisting that Holder was heavily involved in Waco.

LOLWUT


Well you see, once a Democrat takes a public office, they absorb the power of all the other Democrats who took office before them. So Holder ordered the assault on Waco, Obama killed Vince Foster, and John Kerry blew up Benghazi.
 
2014-04-29 09:40:13 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: With all the nuke testing that went on in that area back in the 50s I really don't think one more would hurt




img.4plebs.org

Wat....

 
2014-04-29 09:40:39 AM  

Super_pope: Armed insurrection against the federal government over one's petty bills should have been handled as immediately, extremely, and with the most prejudice our bloated military machine could muster.

I literally wish they would have been trying to sort this guy's bits out of hisfamily's with a sieve.


This is why you're not in charge.  Just saying.
 
2014-04-29 09:42:22 AM  

TheBigJerk: Bundy gang sets up highway checkpoints.


Oh Jeez,  I hope this thing can be defused peacefully. Have Bundy's people crossed the line into felonious actions, or can they still just walk away?
 
2014-04-29 09:42:37 AM  
FTA:
Leslie Bishop Paul, the national administrator of Oath Keepers, said on Facebook the information "may, or may not" be valid, but hoped that "sunlight' would cause federal agencies to back down from such an act.

"Pray it isn't true and pray it never happens," Paul added.


Why do get the feeling that Leslie Bishop Paul is inwardly praying that it does happen?  All of his fantasies would come true.
 
2014-04-29 09:43:09 AM  

Arkanaut: FlashHarry: Mikey1969: I'm getting a kick out of the dipshiats who are flat out insisting that Holder was heavily involved in Waco.

LOLWUT

Well you see, once a Democrat takes a public office, they absorb the power of all the other Democrats who took office before them. So Holder ordered the assault on Waco, Obama killed Vince Foster, and John Kerry blew up Benghazi.


It's a little-known function of the whole "hivemind" thing.

/plus, yanno, Fartbama has the time machine
 
2014-04-29 09:43:19 AM  

Rapmaster2000: Mikey1969: Rapmaster2000: Oh my, there are some incredible comments on there.

Mary Beerman •
DEAR
LADY or should I say CIA or NSA agent or Obamabot?
I am Canadian not American.
Im gonna tell you how I first found out what a dangerous pathological liar & maniac your great leader is & just how perilous the life of every American with THAT piece of demonic garbage at the helm.
GOD connected me ONLINE to a relative of CHRIS STEVENS in 2009. (Remember Im CANADIAN)

And it goes on and on.

LOL, I just posted that whole thing... Figured it was worth studying out.

I enjoy the repeated reminders that she is a CANADIAN.


Yeah, it's like she thinks Canadians can't learn, or something.

Arkanaut: FlashHarry: Mikey1969: I'm getting a kick out of the dipshiats who are flat out insisting that Holder was heavily involved in Waco.

LOLWUT

Well you see, once a Democrat takes a public office, they absorb the power of all the other Democrats who took office before them. So Holder ordered the assault on Waco, Obama killed Vince Foster, and John Kerry blew up Benghazi.


So what you're saying is that the can be only one?
 
2014-04-29 09:43:47 AM  

Muta: Someone from the FBI or BLM should fly a radio controlled airplane around the ranch near where the militia is hunkered down... just for shiats and grins.


They would try and shoot it, miss, and would/kill several of their fellow militia members in the process.  This, of course, would all be Obama's fault.
 
2014-04-29 09:44:15 AM  
We've already set precedent with Russia; just put a sanction on their bank accounts.
 
2014-04-29 09:45:34 AM  
Will there be a viewing area set up for us looky-loos?
 
2014-04-29 09:46:31 AM  

TheBigJerk: Bundy gang sets up highway checkpoints.


Man, can we send some Sovereign Citizen types on a free, all expenses paid vacation to Nevada? And put a hidden dashboard cam in their car?

"Sir, I'm with the Oathkeeper People's Militia, I'm going to have to ask you to step out of the car and prove you are a resident of this here territory."

"Under Article 2 Section 4 Sub-paragraph 8 of the French and Indian War treaty, this land is subject to no official or unofficial government authority. Furthermore, as your vehichle does not have Native American reservation plates, you are not an official...."

"SIR! You will obey my commands, under Article 6 Section 2 sub-paragraph 10 of the Homestead Act, I am required - by law - to defend my property, or defend the property of those that hired me to do so. Now, step out of the car and..."

"I must inform you that you are not wearing a uniform recognized by any known US treaty or law, therefore..."

We'd get at least 6 hours of good footage. Sprinkle in some staged fights, and we can sell it to A&E.
 
2014-04-29 09:46:34 AM  

Sgt Otter: The comments make Breitbart look like the Algonquin Round Table.

My favorite was the dude with the Confederate Flag upset about the government killing Americans.


Oh, with that in perspective, I have to laugh.
OL
 
2014-04-29 09:47:30 AM  

ikanreed: FlashHarry: i agree. but they still need to face justice after the fact.

Yeah, 2nd amendment includes the right to own a gun, not the right to threaten to shoot people.  Every one of these farkers needs to be arrested on an intimidation charge, offered a plea bargin that includes community service, and lose their rights to weapons forever as ex-cons.


yuuuup.
 
2014-04-29 09:49:25 AM  

TheBigJerk: Bundy gang sets up highway checkpoints.


I swear to God, it would be worth leaving my daughter without a daddy just to go down there and make these derpholes shoot me for driving down a road that I am legally able to drive on. I might not even stop for their farking stupid "checkpoint". If I was Breaking Bad-type terminal cancer, I'd do it in a farking heartbeat. It's only a 6 hour drive.
 
2014-04-29 09:49:25 AM  

mgshamster: We've already set precedent with Russia; just put a sanction on their bank accounts.


If cash or property can be seized for possession of marijuana, then fark this yahoo and take everything he owns.
 
2014-04-29 09:51:08 AM  

dopirt: TheBigJerk: Bundy gang sets up highway checkpoints.

Oh Jeez,  I hope this thing can be defused peacefully. Have Bundy's people crossed the line into felonious actions, or can they still just walk away?

According to Horsford, his constituents say the militia have set up checkpoints where residents must prove they live in the area before they are allowed to pass and have set up a "persistent presence" along federal highways, and state and county roads. They also claim some have established an armed presence in the community.


Those might carry felony strength.
 
2014-04-29 09:54:10 AM  
droning American citizens is old news

"meh, it's been done" -  George Harrison on the simpsons
 
2014-04-29 09:54:42 AM  

jayhawk88: TheBigJerk: Bundy gang sets up highway checkpoints.

Man, can we send some Sovereign Citizen types on a free, all expenses paid vacation to Nevada? And put a hidden dashboard cam in their car?

"Sir, I'm with the Oathkeeper People's Militia, I'm going to have to ask you to step out of the car and prove you are a resident of this here territory."

"Under Article 2 Section 4 Sub-paragraph 8 of the French and Indian War treaty, this land is subject to no official or unofficial government authority. Furthermore, as your vehichle does not have Native American reservation plates, you are not an official...."

"SIR! You will obey my commands, under Article 6 Section 2 sub-paragraph 10 of the Homestead Act, I am required - by law - to defend my property, or defend the property of those that hired me to do so. Now, step out of the car and..."

"I must inform you that you are not wearing a uniform recognized by any known US treaty or law, therefore..."

We'd get at least 6 hours of good footage. Sprinkle in some staged fights, and we can sell it to A&E.


Dude, that would be like a never-ending loop, the worm Ouroboros. it COULD be the thing that ends this, you could possibly walk right up, strap these people to a handtruck and cart them off. As long as they maintain eye contact, it could be true perpetual motion.

4815162342execute.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-04-29 09:55:27 AM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-04-29 09:55:53 AM  

jayhawk88: Native American reservation plates


Keith Secola disproves.
 
2014-04-29 09:58:30 AM  

ikanreed: offered a plea bargin that includes community service, and lose their rights to weapons forever


Yeah.
Picking up trash.

In Harlem.

At night.
 
2014-04-29 09:59:23 AM  

Last Man on Earth: FlashHarry: TheBigJerk: Bundy gang sets up highway checkpoints.

why the fark are these assholes not in jail? they've threatened federal officials with firearms. they're blocking roads. why aren't they in jail?

If the cops tried to arrest them, what do you think the reaction would be?  These nutjobs are just waiting for an excuse to open fire, and even peaceful arrest attempts will be the flashpoint.  Much as I'm opposed to police militarization, shiat like this is the reason for it.  About the only way this ends peacefully is to wait for the crazies to get bored/lose interest/see some new outrage and disperse on their own.


this. just wait them out, there's no rush and they'll get bored soon enough.
 
2014-04-29 10:02:43 AM  

log_jammin: "So is this disinformation to get the boots on the ground to evacuate the scene so that BLM people can move in Waco style, or is it absolute bull to have us put out false info and destroy our credibility," the blog asked. During an interview with Schmidt, Rhodes said it is possible the report could be part of a disinformation campaign. The person who reportedly gave the information, he said, believes what he heard.

I love how they won't even entertain the idea that they are just wrong. the only way they can be wrong is if it's STILL a government conspiracy to make them look wrong.


I read some of the glorious derp in the comments. The word PSYOPS in caps gets dropped all over the place. The mental gymnastics are world class with these nutters.
 
2014-04-29 10:05:43 AM  
are there even any farkers defending this moocher anymore?
 
2014-04-29 10:05:57 AM  

Mikey1969: Speaking of the comments on that story, there is no way that this isn't Pocket...

LIBERTIES2DAY  Mary Beerman • a day ago

DEAR
LADY or should I say CIA or NSA agent or Obamabot?
I am Canadian not American.

Im gonna tell you how I first found out what a dangerous pathological liar & maniac your great leader is & just how perilous the life of every American with THAT piece of demonic garbage at the helm.  GOD connected me ONLINE to a relative of CHRIS STEVENS in 2009. (Remember Im CANADIAN)

I didnt even know this person was a relative of Amb Chris Stevens till SEPT 15 2012 & that person was just as duped as Id been about a"Video".
That connection in 2009 was DIVINE INTERVENTION because GOD knew the TRUTH about what your horrible , evil , pathological liar , narcisIsitic ,cruel evil pig and his cronies in the WH were about to DO and He was about to show ME ; a CANADIAN!

In DEC 2013, SUPERNATURALLY He then showed me in a VISION what REALLY took place in Benghazi , then SUPERNATURALLY led me to an INSIDE SOURCE whom revealed step by step Obamas complete involvement in
CHRIS STEVENS death ( and the others).

Only then was my eyes opened to the horror of this demonic manifestion that sits in your White House whom would utterly DESTROY your country in due time including YOUR LIFE madam because he really doesnt give a crap about you , nor Al Sharpton( as that "wolf in sheeps clothing has been fooled to believe )- except to USE you both for his personal gain, then he will "be done with you".

But you're too stupid and brainwashed to even notice this .
Nor does it even cross your mind to ASK GOD FIRST about this lying, narcisstic con artist , street thug & his evil side kick HOLDER &how he is about to wipe out everything that is near and dear to you.

ANYWAYS, after GOD led me as He did- to the TRUTH about BENGHAZI- I then had to contact this relative and tell THAT person the TRUTH about what really happened to CHRIS ( oh and by the way that INSIDE Source has NEVER been m ...


I wonder what part of Alberta they live in.
 
2014-04-29 10:06:30 AM  
I'M IN FAVOR OF DRONE STRIKES AGAINST THE BUNDY RANCH!!!

HONK IF YOU LOVE JESUS!
 
2014-04-29 10:06:55 AM  

ikanreed: This is why you're not in charge.  Just saying.


Washington sent in the army to handle those Whiskey Rebellion motherfarkers.  That worked out pretty good.

I personally think that letting people flout the rule of law because they gathered a bunch of armed people to threaten violence is absolutely anathema to a functioning state and should be punished beyond ALL other offenses.  There should have been no romantic last stand for this guy and his militia, nor any impression that they triumphed or lingering celebrity with douchey conservatives.

They should have been killed calmly and impersonally from ten miles out with a thermobaric bomb to purge the land of their poison, the land should have been seized as ordered, and if they didn't like it, well they could have not banded together to take up arms in support of some turd not paying the bills he's racked up by knowingly breaking the law for 20 years
 
2014-04-29 10:09:18 AM  
Yeah, this is a legitimate way to portray the 'kicking the police dog' incident...

i.dailymail.co.uk
Violent: An officer is seen firing a taser at Ammon Bundy as an aggressive police dog goes after him

http://www.njnewsday.com/national/25053-senator-speaks-out-in-favor- of -nevada-rancher-as-militias-join-battle-with-federal-agents-accused-of -acting-like-they-re-in-tienanmen-square-in-fight-over-disputed-ranch- land.html
 
2014-04-29 10:09:30 AM  

Super_pope: Washington sent in the army to handle those Whiskey Rebellion motherfarkers. That worked out pretty good.


To be fair, the Whiskey Rebels weren't evil cowards cowering behind women and children.
 
2014-04-29 10:14:52 AM  

Super_pope: Washington sent in the army to handle those Whiskey Rebellion motherfarkers. That worked out pretty good.


Yeah, but, see, we don't hang thieves anymore.  We're a bit more civilized towards the misguided.  Everyone knows the fed can murder the fark out of these guys if they want.  The military capability has never been part of the equation.

I mean, in one respect the Whiskey rebellion is a good tool for understand(i.e. no, your opinion on the matter doesn't determine if you're obeying the law or not), but there's simply no need to lay the mushroom clouds on these clowns.
 
2014-04-29 10:15:35 AM  

FlashHarry: TheBigJerk: Bundy gang sets up highway checkpoints.

why the fark are these assholes not in jail? they've threatened federal officials with firearms. they're blocking roads. why aren't they in jail?


What's the old saying--never interrupt your enemy while their making a mistake.

I say let these guys break as many laws as possible until only the most fringe of nutters can be found supporting them, then quietly arrest them on a list of charges as long as your arm.  Hopefully lock some of them up for decades.
 
2014-04-29 10:17:12 AM  

Baz744: women


Adults making the choice to be human shields in a violent confrontation they are provoking have no business complaining that someone has shot them.

Baz744: children


Lets be real.  The kids of idiot rednecks who are willing to hide from bullets behind their tiny bodies are going to grow up to be even worse than their atrocious parents.

Tell them, "In 5 hours your house will explode and everything within at least 500 yards will be killed instantly by the intensity of the bomb.  It is already en-route and will detonate whether or not you stay or go."  If they were still there when it blew up I'd have been ecstatic, but you know they wouldn't be.
 
2014-04-29 10:17:50 AM  

Mikey1969: Yeah, this is a legitimate way to portray the 'kicking the police dog' incident...

[i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x462]
Violent: An officer is seen firing a taser at Ammon Bundy as an aggressive police dog goes after him

http://www.njnewsday.com/national/25053-senator-speaks-out-in-favor- of -nevada-rancher-as-militias-join-battle-with-federal-agents-accused-of -acting-like-they-re-in-tienanmen-square-in-fight-over-disputed-ranch- land.html


Really wish people would stop reporting efforts to seize Bundy's land since, you know, it isn't farking his.  That's kind of the point of this whole thing, and reporting that the land belongs to Bundy changes the entire farking nature of the issue.  Lazy-ass "journalists".
 
2014-04-29 10:22:11 AM  

ikanreed: but there's simply no need to lay the mushroom clouds on these clowns.


Disagree.  Permitting these guys to walk away (to my knowledge none of the "defenders" were arrested for this garbage will embolden more of these country-fried shiatkickers to think they can get away with this garbage if they have the guns (never mind that Cliven Bundy's crap will eventually be seized, because by then the news cycle will have passed him by).

In a lot of ways it makes me think of 'Stand your ground.'  A ton of idiots have just heard the buzzwords, know it was used in the Zimmerman case (even though it really wasn't, and didn't apply) and are now shooting people by surprise and going, "I felt threatened, I was standing my ground!"

If idiots think this kind of stuff works, it will only get worse.  Giving ANY impression that this crap could ever function for you will lead to morons (even stupider less controlled morons) doing it again until someone gets killed.

Respond overwhelmingly the first time and any impression that this is a good idea will evaporate with the vaporized flesh of the bundy clan.
 
2014-04-29 10:25:24 AM  

Sgt Otter: The comments make Breitbart look like the Algonquin Round Table.

My favorite was the dude with the Confederate Flag upset about the government killing Americans.


All the while his friends are getting killed by tornadoes in the South.

TORNADOGHAZI. STUDY IT OUT.
 
2014-04-29 10:28:37 AM  

Muta: Someone from the FBI or BLM should fly a radio controlled airplane around the ranch near where the militia is hunkered down... just for shiats and grins.


Are you kidding? Whoever did that would be charged Depraved Indifference Murder. You know as soon as those idiots see that thing a few of them will start taking shots at it and screaming about government drones coming. Then that will escalate into more people screaming about the government is coming and paranoidly shooting at whatever is moving. And in about 10 minutes you would have half of them dead. I wouldn't be surprised if the idiots set up booby traps around there also and people would get killed in those trying to escape the paranoia that was started by one prankster with a radio controlled airplane.
 
2014-04-29 10:29:41 AM  

Super_pope: ikanreed: but there's simply no need to lay the mushroom clouds on these clowns.

Disagree.  Permitting these guys to walk away (to my knowledge none of the "defenders" were arrested for this garbage will embolden more of these country-fried shiatkickers to think they can get away with this garbage if they have the guns (never mind that Cliven Bundy's crap will eventually be seized, because by then the news cycle will have passed him by).

In a lot of ways it makes me think of 'Stand your ground.'  A ton of idiots have just heard the buzzwords, know it was used in the Zimmerman case (even though it really wasn't, and didn't apply) and are now shooting people by surprise and going, "I felt threatened, I was standing my ground!"

If idiots think this kind of stuff works, it will only get worse.  Giving ANY impression that this crap could ever function for you will lead to morons (even stupider less controlled morons) doing it again until someone gets killed.

Respond overwhelmingly the first time and any impression that this is a good idea will evaporate with the vaporized flesh of the bundy clan.


you couldn't be more wrong. If there's a stand off and confrontation every militia will flock to the area and you'll end up with a Waco 10x situation with no choice but to take them all down. It would be a nightmare.
 
2014-04-29 10:31:39 AM  

Phoenix87ta: Mikey1969: Yeah, this is a legitimate way to portray the 'kicking the police dog' incident...

[i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x462]
Violent: An officer is seen firing a taser at Ammon Bundy as an aggressive police dog goes after him

http://www.njnewsday.com/national/25053-senator-speaks-out-in-favor- of -nevada-rancher-as-militias-join-battle-with-federal-agents-accused-of -acting-like-they-re-in-tienanmen-square-in-fight-over-disputed-ranch- land.html

Really wish people would stop reporting efforts to seize Bundy's land since, you know, it isn't farking his.  That's kind of the point of this whole thing, and reporting that the land belongs to Bundy changes the entire farking nature of the issue.  Lazy-ass "journalists".


The only thing they fark up more is the fact that his family hasn't been on that land since the 1870's, but that isn't as much their fault as it is the fault of the fact checkers. Even a brain dead moron could at least learn the difference between "his land" and "not his land".
 
2014-04-29 10:32:52 AM  

ongbok: Are you kidding? Whoever did that would be charged Depraved Indifference Murder. You know as soon as those idiots see that thing a few of them will start taking shots at it and screaming about government drones coming. Then that will escalate into more people screaming about the government is coming and paranoidly shooting at whatever is moving. And in about 10 minutes you would have half of them dead. I wouldn't be surprised if the idiots set up booby traps around there also and people would get killed in those trying to escape the paranoia that was started by one prankster with a radio controlled airplane.


I'm not seeing a downside.
 
2014-04-29 10:32:59 AM  

FlashHarry: are there even any farkers defending this moocher anymore?


A nutter so nutty that even trolls on FARK don't bother defending them?  There's gotta be some kind of trophy for that.
 
2014-04-29 10:34:17 AM  
Super_pope: In a lot of ways it makes me think of 'Stand your ground.'  A ton of idiots have just heard the buzzwords, know it was used in the Zimmerman case (even though it really wasn't, and didn't apply) and are now shooting people by IN Surprise and going, "I felt threatened, I was standing my ground!"

FTFY (Seriously, someone could mow down 100 kids, and I still might chuckle at the headline, they are always unintentional jokes)   :-)

sweettouchcarpetcleaning.com
 
2014-04-29 10:38:47 AM  

chasd00: Super_pope: ikanreed: but there's simply no need to lay the mushroom clouds on these clowns.

Disagree.  Permitting these guys to walk away (to my knowledge none of the "defenders" were arrested for this garbage will embolden more of these country-fried shiatkickers to think they can get away with this garbage if they have the guns (never mind that Cliven Bundy's crap will eventually be seized, because by then the news cycle will have passed him by).

In a lot of ways it makes me think of 'Stand your ground.'  A ton of idiots have just heard the buzzwords, know it was used in the Zimmerman case (even though it really wasn't, and didn't apply) and are now shooting people by surprise and going, "I felt threatened, I was standing my ground!"

If idiots think this kind of stuff works, it will only get worse.  Giving ANY impression that this crap could ever function for you will lead to morons (even stupider less controlled morons) doing it again until someone gets killed.

Respond overwhelmingly the first time and any impression that this is a good idea will evaporate with the vaporized flesh of the bundy clan.

you couldn't be more wrong. If there's a stand off and confrontation every militia will flock to the area and you'll end up with a Waco 10x situation with no choice but to take them all down. It would be a nightmare.


So you're saying we could get rid of them all at once?

I'm really not seeing a downside here...
 
2014-04-29 10:39:51 AM  

Jackson Herring: [i.imgur.com image 720x960]

oathkeepers


HEY LOOK! Its a Load, bearing equipment.
 
2014-04-29 10:42:09 AM  

Mikey1969: Speaking of the comments on that story, there is no way that this isn't Pocket...

LIBERTIES2DAY  • a day ago

DEAR
LADY or should I say CIA or NSA agent or Obamabot?
I am Canadian not American.

Im gonna tell you how I first found out what a dangerous pathological liar & maniac your great leader is & just how perilous the life of every American with THAT piece of demonic garbage at the helm.  GOD connected me ONLINE to a relative of CHRIS STEVENS in 2009. (Remember Im CANADIAN)



Fark needs a Scary! button.
 
2014-04-29 10:47:40 AM  

Satanic_Hamster: ongbok: Are you kidding? Whoever did that would be charged Depraved Indifference Murder. You know as soon as those idiots see that thing a few of them will start taking shots at it and screaming about government drones coming. Then that will escalate into more people screaming about the government is coming and paranoidly shooting at whatever is moving. And in about 10 minutes you would have half of them dead. I wouldn't be surprised if the idiots set up booby traps around there also and people would get killed in those trying to escape the paranoia that was started by one prankster with a radio controlled airplane.

I'm not seeing a downside.


There is an off chance that the plane might get hit.
 
2014-04-29 10:49:14 AM  

cannibalparrot: So you're saying we could get rid of them all at once?

I'm really not seeing a downside here...


Pretty much what I was thinking.  Also most of those people are clowns without the resources to do much of anything other than hide in the Alaskan wilderness and pretend their obese asses are Rambo.  When confronted with certain death from a confrontation with a superior military opponent, the whiskey rebellioneers backed down immediately and went home, and they were mostly battle hardened vets of the revolutionary war.

A lot of these guys are wierdo pussies who "breaching" on trailers out in the woods because they think its cool.  Most of them have no knowledge that would in any way be applicable to a confrontation with an actual military power.

I think one of the things that really stands out to me is how many Americans think an AR-15 would let them handle some tyrannical attempt to off them.  A concerted effort to eliminate you, even if it was just our local law enforcement would be instantly fatal to basically anyone.  When they aren't worried about taking you alive (or pretending they were) they can just point a heat camera at your house and shoot you through your stupid drywall.  If the military were involved whoa buddy would you be farked, and that's saying a lot considering how farked you were to begin with.
 
2014-04-29 10:49:51 AM  

Mikey1969: Someone in a group called "Oath Keepers" is a dishonest piece of shiat? That's about as appropriate as James O'Keefe calling his group "Project Veritas".

mygeekblasphemy.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-04-29 10:50:38 AM  

Super_pope: who "breaching"


practice "breaching"

ftfm
 
2014-04-29 10:53:57 AM  

Mikey1969: Yeah, this is a legitimate way to portray the 'kicking the police dog' incident...

[i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x462]
Violent: An officer is seen firing a taser at Ammon Bundy as an aggressive police dog goes after him

http://www.njnewsday.com/national/25053-senator-speaks-out-in-favor- of -nevada-rancher-as-militias-join-battle-with-federal-agents-accused-of -acting-like-they-re-in-tienanmen-square-in-fight-over-disputed-ranch- land.html


Remember when conservatives were telling us that this was the proper way to handle people who didn't follow orders?

www.davidmcelroy.org
 
2014-04-29 10:58:20 AM  

Muta: Remember when conservatives were telling us that this was the proper way to handle people who didn't follow orders?


"Move or I'll hurt you"  "I guess you'll have to hurt me."

Not the same as,

"Try to enforce a lawful court order and our armed mob will murder you."

I bet all those kids were arrested too.  I've seen nothing to indicate the deserters after the racist bundy rants were arrested with charges pending.
 
2014-04-29 11:04:34 AM  

ongbok: Muta: Someone from the FBI or BLM should fly a radio controlled airplane around the ranch near where the militia is hunkered down... just for shiats and grins.

Are you kidding? Whoever did that would be charged Depraved Indifference Murder. You know as soon as those idiots see that thing a few of them will start taking shots at it and screaming about government drones coming. Then that will escalate into more people screaming about the government is coming and paranoidly shooting at whatever is moving. And in about 10 minutes you would have half of them dead. I wouldn't be surprised if the idiots set up booby traps around there also and people would get killed in those trying to escape the paranoia that was started by one prankster with a radio controlled airplane.


So we bring popcorn.
 
2014-04-29 11:07:05 AM  
Don't worry, the time will come when this sort of civil disobedience will be met with a swift and brutal response.  Right now, it's just not politically expedient.

Be patient, we'll get our boots on their throats soon enough.


rpatheoryofknowledge.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-04-29 11:08:14 AM  

Satanic_Hamster: ongbok: Are you kidding? Whoever did that would be charged Depraved Indifference Murder. You know as soon as those idiots see that thing a few of them will start taking shots at it and screaming about government drones coming. Then that will escalate into more people screaming about the government is coming and paranoidly shooting at whatever is moving. And in about 10 minutes you would have half of them dead. I wouldn't be surprised if the idiots set up booby traps around there also and people would get killed in those trying to escape the paranoia that was started by one prankster with a radio controlled airplane.

I'm not seeing a downside.


Now that I think of it neither am I. Off to Hobby Lobby.
 
2014-04-29 11:08:26 AM  

Muta: Mikey1969: Yeah, this is a legitimate way to portray the 'kicking the police dog' incident...

[i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x462]
Violent: An officer is seen firing a taser at Ammon Bundy as an aggressive police dog goes after him

http://www.njnewsday.com/national/25053-senator-speaks-out-in-favor- of -nevada-rancher-as-militias-join-battle-with-federal-agents-accused-of -acting-like-they-re-in-tienanmen-square-in-fight-over-disputed-ranch- land.html

Remember when conservatives were telling us that this was the proper way to handle people who didn't follow orders?

[www.davidmcelroy.org image 460x386]


Whereas in Nevada, nobody was pepper sprayed, yet they were crowing at the top of their voices...
 
2014-04-29 11:08:33 AM  

Muta: Someone from the FBI or BLM should fly a radio controlled airplane around the ranch near where the militia is hunkered down... just for shiats and grins.


Skeet Practice?
 
2014-04-29 11:10:51 AM  

dopirt: TheBigJerk: Bundy gang sets up highway checkpoints.

Oh Jeez,  I hope this thing can be defused peacefully. Have Bundy's people crossed the line into felonious actions, or can they still just walk away?


Local charge that could be brought: terroristic threatening.

IANAL, but the jury I was on convicted a guy of terroristic threatening for pointing a rifle at his ex.
 
2014-04-29 11:13:11 AM  
The funny thing is that more than likely the DOJ does have a few surveillance drones flying around recording and these idiots don't even realize it. And anybody that they can identify from the recordings will not be let anywhere near an airplane for the rest of their lives. Welcome to the no fly list assholes.
 
2014-04-29 11:14:04 AM  

Zeb Hesselgresser: Don't worry, the time will come when this sort of civil disobedience will be met with a swift and brutal response.  Right now, it's just not politically expedient.

Be patient, we'll get our boots on their throats soon enough.


[rpatheoryofknowledge.files.wordpress.com image 260x346]


Threating to shoot people is not "Civil disobedience". Nor is setting up highway checkpoints and harassing people who live there. That's called "Armed thuggery". Civil disobedience kinda normally has a non violent theme to it.
 
2014-04-29 11:15:52 AM  

yakmans_dad: dopirt: TheBigJerk: Bundy gang sets up highway checkpoints.

Oh Jeez,  I hope this thing can be defused peacefully. Have Bundy's people crossed the line into felonious actions, or can they still just walk away?

Local charge that could be brought: terroristic threatening.

IANAL, but the jury I was on convicted a guy of terroristic threatening for pointing a rifle at his ex.


Being at the area with a firearm is not terroristic threatening. Now if they use that firearm to directly threaten a public official or anyone else from doing something legal , then you start to cross over that line.
 
2014-04-29 11:17:50 AM  

ongbok: The funny thing is that more than likely the DOJ does have a few surveillance drones flying around recording and these idiots don't even realize it.


I am sure they are paranoid enough as they suspect it, even if they can't directly observe any overhead drones.  I am sure that they are also acting accordingly.
 
2014-04-29 11:21:27 AM  

HeadLever: I am sure that they are also acting accordingly.


Everyone whose left is sitting around drinking beer and using the n-word.  Don't kid yourself into thinking this rabble would have any idea how to handle being observed by a military drone or scout.

You can't do counter-intelligence when you have zero intelligence to start with.
 
2014-04-29 11:28:33 AM  

Zeb Hesselgresser: Don't worry, the time will come when this sort of civil disobedience will be met with a swift and brutal response.  Right now, it's just not politically expedient.

Be patient, we'll get our boots on their throats soon enough.


"Civil?"

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-04-29 11:29:02 AM  

Super_pope: Super_pope: who "breaching"

practice "breaching"

ftfm


Should I make a pregnancy joke or a loafpinching joke? So tempting both.
 
2014-04-29 11:30:39 AM  

Super_pope: Respond overwhelmingly the first time and any impression that this is a good idea will evaporate with the vaporized flesh of the bundy clan.


And if this were a true assertion about how people react to things, it would be a valid conclusion.  People don't react to degree of consequences, only their own estimation of whether they will face consequences at all.

More deterrence by sharper punishment does not work.
 
2014-04-29 11:31:49 AM  

Last Man on Earth: FlashHarry: TheBigJerk: Bundy gang sets up highway checkpoints.

why the fark are these assholes not in jail? they've threatened federal officials with firearms. they're blocking roads. why aren't they in jail?

If the cops tried to arrest them, what do you think the reaction would be?  These nutjobs are just waiting for an excuse to open fire, and even peaceful arrest attempts will be the flashpoint.  Much as I'm opposed to police militarization, shiat like this is the reason for it.  About the only way this ends peacefully is to wait for the crazies to get bored/lose interest/see some new outrage and disperse on their own.


While I understand that sentiment. This shiat needs to be nipped in the bud. They're acting as if the law doesn't apply to them, running rampant and doing whatever the hell the want. Yeah, it could get violent. But it has to be done, otherwise law and order officially mean nothing.
 
2014-04-29 11:32:29 AM  

Jackson Herring: oathkeepers


The clamshell sink ties in well with the single glove.
 
2014-04-29 11:33:05 AM  

Super_pope: A lot of these guys are wierdo pussies who "breaching" on trailers out in the woods because they think its cool. Most of them have no knowledge that would in any way be applicable to a confrontation with an actual military power.


When I think about potential civilization-disrupting situations, such as a CME or deadly pandemic, it's these asshats that worry me the most.  They not only lack the knowledge that you mention, but any skill relevant to actual survival beyond "shoot people that have stuff becuase partriot and freedomz".

It amazes me that a group so worried about "the shiat going down" is so utterly and absolutely unprepared to do anything but shoot at it.
 
2014-04-29 11:34:20 AM  

drill_sgt:  "or is it absolute bull to have us put out false info and destroy our credibility"...

Yes... THIS is what will destroy your credibility...


Eh... Maybe. TFA says they wanted to shine "sunlight" on this to make the government back down. So when the ranch doesn't get droned, they can claim victory.
OTOH, I wouldn't be surprised if there's a drone in the area for surveillance to give whoever's in charge of the situation real-time info.
 
2014-04-29 11:37:35 AM  

Super_pope: Don't kid yourself into thinking this rabble would have any idea how to handle being observed by a military drone or scout.


Don't kid yourself into thinking that this rabble wouldn't have any idea how to handle being observed by a military drone or scout.  If it were I, I would much rather overestimate their ability than underestimate it.

Of course this is Fark where we are outside the firing lines and expected to mock and ridicule people.  So it is within this spirit that I say unto thee: Continue on Brave Soldier!
 
2014-04-29 11:39:16 AM  

ikanreed: And if this were a true assertion about how people react to things, it would be a valid conclusion.  People don't react to degree of consequences, only their own estimation of whether they will face consequences at all.

More deterrence by sharper punishment does not work.


I don't understand where you get the idea a bunch of people gathering to threaten violence against government agents would expect to not face consequences if we dropped a bomb on the first guys who did it.

Holding territory against the federal government using an armed militia is very different from like... jaywalking.  Someone's gonna notice you doing it.
 
2014-04-29 11:41:16 AM  

HeadLever: If it were I, I would much rather overestimate their ability than underestimate it.


So you agree that vaporizing them from 10 miles out is a pretty good way to go then.  Wouldn't want to underestimate them in case they have RPGs and stingers.
 
2014-04-29 11:41:20 AM  

Sgt Otter: Zeb Hesselgresser: Don't worry, the time will come when this sort of civil disobedience will be met with a swift and brutal response.  Right now, it's just not politically expedient.

Be patient, we'll get our boots on their throats soon enough.

"Civil?"


Well, you have to go further down the list of definitions before you get to a definition that's synonymous with nice.

civ·il

adjective \ˈsi-vəl\

1: of or relating to the people who live in a country
2: of or relating to the regular business of the people in a city, town, state, etc. : not connected to the military or to a religion
 
2014-04-29 11:41:26 AM  

Super_pope: I don't understand where you get the idea a bunch of people gathering to threaten violence against government agents would expect to not face consequences if we dropped a bomb on the first guys who did it.


Because you can expect push-back by citizens when due process rights have been violated?  Why would that not be expected at that point?
 
2014-04-29 11:41:54 AM  

006deluxe: mutterfark: Can the government just sort of mind-fark them for a while? Maybe have some guys get out of military vehicle and obviously surveil them for a while. Have black helicopters fly by, maybe have an AWAC circle overhead. The full Dale Gribble treatment.

/okay none of that's probably a good idea ;p

/CSB
//I work in West Chester, PA right by the American Helicopter Museum. On occasion, a Blackhawk crew from VA will come up and visit and they'll usually circle really low around the area a few times. We're a pretty "blue" area but I wonder if there are any nutters in the area that freak out when that happens.
///End CSB


Oh hey I've been there. That's actually a pretty good museum. Kind of hard to find.
 
2014-04-29 11:42:20 AM  

Super_pope: So you agree that vaporizing them from 10 miles out is a pretty good way to go then.


Yeah, I mean if you are going to burn the constitution, why not nuke it from orbit?
 
2014-04-29 11:43:10 AM  

LectertheChef: While I understand that sentiment. This shiat needs to be nipped in the bud. They're acting as if the law doesn't apply to them, running rampant and doing whatever the hell the want. Yeah, it could get violent. But it has to be done, otherwise law and order officially mean nothing.


While part of me would like to see the Bundys massacre a group of 4 cops who go to serve them with more court documents, or to enforce those courts' decisions, I don't want people to have to die to make the rhetorical point that they're (sunglasses) left the reservation, and to get public opinion on their side (I'm not even sure that'd do it, sadly).

Unfortunately, it seems the Bundys won't give an inch until the shooting starts - further emboldened by supporters like those Fox drew out of the woodwork (thanks guys) - so the question becomes "Who would we rather get shot: Bundys or cops?" and this is one of those times where it sort of sucks to have to root against the little guy.
 
2014-04-29 11:43:24 AM  

ongbok: Muta: Someone from the FBI or BLM should fly a radio controlled airplane around the ranch near where the militia is hunkered down... just for shiats and grins.

Are you kidding? Whoever did that would be charged Depraved Indifference Murder. You know as soon as those idiots see that thing a few of them will start taking shots at it and screaming about government drones coming. Then that will escalate into more people screaming about the government is coming and paranoidly shooting at whatever is moving. And in about 10 minutes you would have half of them dead. I wouldn't be surprised if the idiots set up booby traps around there also and people would get killed in those trying to escape the paranoia that was started by one prankster with a radio controlled airplane.


Yeah, and?
 
2014-04-29 11:43:25 AM  

Super_pope: I don't understand where you get the idea a bunch of people gathering to threaten violence against government agents would expect to not face consequences if we dropped a bomb on the first guys who did it.


Do you think there's a rational basis to their behavior.  They genuinely think that killing them is outside the government's ability.  Because they're crazy.
 
2014-04-29 11:45:05 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: Alphax: OutLawSuit: I'm all for this.

Cows + Hellfire Missiles = Excellent BBQ

Nah, that's overcooked.  Weapons that burn through a foot of steel?  What's left of the cow won't be tasty.

Jerky, then?


Nah, just let them get near a mesquite tree and do a little offset on the missle. Delicious wood smoked flavor.
 
2014-04-29 11:45:15 AM  

ikanreed: They genuinely think that killing them is outside the government's ability.


Killing them when not being actively threatened with deadly force is outside the government's rights.  Not ability.
 
2014-04-29 11:47:25 AM  
The schism within the GOP widens because of people like Bundy and the Teabaggers. They think they're winning, but they are losing badly.

Sure, next election, the Teabaggers will look for their compatriots, then just vote down the partyline, but the true GOPers, the TRUE conservatives, are sick of their shiat. The schism widens. The Left just need to keep their rhetoric the same and the Right will destroy themselves.

They've gone from being passionate about their cause to being swayed by crackpot beliefs of conspiracy theories that used to be the bailiwick of the Left, and took it for themselves and went free range with ideas. It's sad and embarrassing to see the party of Reagan being controlled by people like Palin, Cruz and Boehner. They're vainglorious egoists more worried about their pocketbooks than their constituents.

Teabaggers are a cancer within the GOP, and they're gonna kill it off.
 
2014-04-29 11:49:45 AM  

HeadLever: Killing them when not being actively threatened with deadly force is outside the government's rights.


Of course it isn't!  Hey you know if a SWAT team shows up at your door because you told the Sheriff you'd shoot anyone who tried to repo the truck you've stopped making payments on, they're not allowed to come in and get you with weapons hot.  All you have to do is just explain you have a ton of guns in there and will gladly shoot them if they try violating your sovereign rights, and it's like you called "base".

Its in the constitution.
 
2014-04-29 11:49:54 AM  
not even the Bush administration would be dumb enough to use a hellfire against Americans on American soil.

though frankly... Bundy and his Derp Brigade have been BEGGING for a god damn fight with the Federal Government... so if it did come down to violence, I myself would find it somewhat funny to have all these gun-farking AlexJones listening Tinfoil Hatwearing jackholes waving about their assault weapons , hiding behind their human shields (sorry...women and children) only to be able to do fark all against an airstrike.
 
2014-04-29 11:51:55 AM  

HST's Dead Carcass: Sure, next election, the Teabaggers will look for their compatriots, then just vote down the partyline, but the true GOPers, the TRUE conservatives, are sick of their shiat. The schism widens. The Left just need to keep their rhetoric the same and the Right will destroy themselves.


While you overall point has merit, I really won't destroy the GOP.  I think of it more as a pendulum.  We have been here before back in the 90s.  There will always be crazies at the fringes and right now they are becoming a pain in the ass for moderates in the party.  They will eventually get put in their place and the pendulum will swing back some.
 
2014-04-29 11:52:41 AM  

HeadLever: Killing them when not being actively threatened with deadly force is outside the government's rights. Not ability.


Yeah, no way cops shoot dangerous suspects all the time, when it's necessary.  No jurisprudence for "justifiable homocide in protecting the peace".  As long as we're in fantasyland.
 
2014-04-29 11:59:30 AM  

ikanreed: HeadLever: Killing them when not being actively threatened with deadly force is outside the government's rights. Not ability.

Yeah, no way cops shoot dangerous suspects all the time, when it's necessary.  No jurisprudence for "justifiable homocide in protecting the peace".  As long as we're in fantasyland.


He obviously thinks the legalities of having the Air Force drop ordinance on a structure are significantly different (rightly) but I remember situation where the Philadelphia police force firebombed the fortified building to get entrenched gang members out.

Obviously this isn't territory we've walked a lot in modern times, but if you announce your private Army doesn't recognize federal authority and will defend your land to the last drop of blood, I think there's a good case for letting that be that and just blowing you up for being an invasion force in US territory.
 
2014-04-29 11:59:37 AM  

Super_pope: Hey you know if a SWAT team shows up at your door because you told the Sheriff you'd shoot anyone who tried to repo the truck you've stopped making payments on, they're not allowed to come in and get you with weapons hot.  All you have to do is just explain you have a ton of guns in there and will gladly shoot them if they try violating your sovereign rights, and it's like you called "base".


Not sure what that has to do with my point.  A SWAT team has no more right to kill someone than any other LEO.  That is, that there needs to be direct threat (or an implication of such) of deadly force displayed by the perp before any LEO has the right to fire.

It doesn't matter if they are a Sovereign Citizen or not.  It doesn't matter if they are crazy or not.  Agree with it or not, all citizens have rights until they are removed through legal means.
 
2014-04-29 12:02:44 PM  

ikanreed: Yeah, no way cops shoot dangerous suspects all the time, when it's necessary.  No jurisprudence for "justifiable homocide in protecting the peace"


Not sure if you missed or ignored by point about beingactively threatened.  Justifiable homicide does not include killing folks that have not 1) been found guilty of a death penalty type crime or 2) present a threat of deadly force.

There is this thing in this country called Due Process.  Maybe you should research it.
 
2014-04-29 12:08:01 PM  

Super_pope: but if you announce your private Army doesn't recognize federal authority and will defend your land to the last drop of blood, I think there's a good case for letting that be that and just blowing you up for being an invasion force in US territory.


You need to read up on the history of Ruby Ridge.  The breach of due process rights in that case set a precedent that completely and directly goes against your proposed course of action here.  Making brash statements like this does not strip away your rights until you initiate direct force against the government or due process runs its course.
 
2014-04-29 12:08:38 PM  

HeadLever: Not sure if you missed or ignored by point about beingactively threatened. Justifiable homicide does not include killing folks that have not 1) been found guilty of a death penalty type crime or 2) present a threat of deadly force.


Yes, they do.  They are armed and dangerous criminals.  That's not hard.

"Oh they're only promising to shoot innocents and haven't yet".
 
2014-04-29 12:09:03 PM  

HeadLever: While you overall point has merit, I really won't destroy the GOP. I think of it more as a pendulum. We have been here before back in the 90s. There will always be crazies at the fringes and right now they are becoming a pain in the ass for moderates in the party. They will eventually get put in their place and the pendulum will swing back some.


I guess I meant destroy in a more discernibly recognizable way, as in the GOP we know and loathe today will be gone, and replaced with some monstrous and twisted version of it's corpse.
 
2014-04-29 12:10:34 PM  

ikanreed: They are armed and dangerous criminals.


What crime have they been convicted of?  This due process thing is hard for you, isn't it?
 
2014-04-29 12:11:04 PM  

HeadLever: Super_pope: but if you announce your private Army doesn't recognize federal authority and will defend your land to the last drop of blood, I think there's a good case for letting that be that and just blowing you up for being an invasion force in US territory.

You need to read up on the history of Ruby Ridge.  The breach of due process rights in that case set a precedent that completely and directly goes against your proposed course of action here.  Making brash statements like this does not strip away your rights until you initiate direct force against the government or due process runs its course.


Isn't what Bundy is doing similar to how AIM started? Will Bundy be the next Leonard Peltier?
 
2014-04-29 12:11:56 PM  

Sgt Otter: Zeb Hesselgresser: Don't worry, the time will come when this sort of civil disobedience will be met with a swift and brutal response.  Right now, it's just not politically expedient.

Be patient, we'll get our boots on their throats soon enough.

"Civil?"

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 634x439]


img.fark.net
 
2014-04-29 12:12:17 PM  

ikanreed: Oh they're only promising to shoot innocents and haven't yet


Threat of deadly force goes beyond just the verbal.  You say that these folks should die here in this thread.  Should that give them the right to shoot you first?
 
2014-04-29 12:15:35 PM  

HeadLever: ikanreed: Oh they're only promising to shoot innocents and haven't yet

Threat of deadly force goes beyond just the verbal.  You say that these folks should die here in this thread.  Should that give them the right to shoot you first?


If he were camped out in their front yard with an arsenal daring them to come out? Totally.
 
2014-04-29 12:16:09 PM  

HeadLever: ikanreed: They are armed and dangerous criminals.

What crime have they been convicted of?  This due process thing is hard for you, isn't it?


Holy christ, people who get gunned down by cops are also not convicted of shiat.  Sorry you don't understand basic law enforcement, but sometimes people get killed before they get to trial.  We have a duty to minimize that, but armed people who don't disarm when under arrest are liable(not the same as likely) to be shot.
 
2014-04-29 12:17:25 PM  

HST's Dead Carcass: Isn't what Bundy is doing similar to how AIM started? Will Bundy be the next Leonard Peltier?


Very well could be.  Hopefully, the feds continue to use discretion at handling this situation.  I imagine that they have the place bugged by now.
 
2014-04-29 12:18:39 PM  

Super_pope: If he were camped out in their front yard with an arsenal daring them to come out? Totally.


Nope.  Doesn't pass legal mustard, ITG.
 
2014-04-29 12:21:44 PM  
julianvasquezheilig.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-04-29 12:22:14 PM  

ikanreed: Holy christ, people who get gunned down by cops are also not convicted of shiat.


Did they present or imply an imminent use of deadly force against said LEO?

Sorry you don't understand basic law enforcement, but sometimes people get killed before they get to trial.  We have a duty to minimize that, but armed people who don't disarm when under arrest are liable(not the same as likely) to be shot.

So again, you ignore my point about threats.  That is too convenient, even for you and now it is apparent that your just trolling.
 
2014-04-29 12:23:55 PM  

HeadLever: Did they present or imply an imminent use of deadly force against said LEO?


Yes.  Exactly.  That's been done here.  They need to be detained to secure the site.  They are armed and likely to resist arrest.  If they do so: getting shot is inevitable.

The end.
 
2014-04-29 12:24:07 PM  

Jackson Herring: On Friday, John Jacob Schmidt of said that according to Stewart Rhodes, founder of Oath Keepers, Fark user Jackson Herring has a 17-foot long penis


Stay off escalators.
 
2014-04-29 12:25:52 PM  

Jackson Herring: [i.imgur.com image 720x960]

oathkeepers


You just know he desperately would like to see his boner at that moment.
 
2014-04-29 12:28:33 PM  
If these people were black or brown, this would have long been taken care of in a hail of bullets and a wash of blood.

Because they're white, they're allowed to break the law and threaten officials for as long as they want.
 
2014-04-29 12:31:26 PM  

ikanreed: HeadLever: Did they present or imply an imminent use of deadly force against said LEO?

Yes.  Exactly.  That's been done here.  They need to be detained to secure the site.  They are armed and likely to resist arrest.  If they do so: getting shot is inevitable.
The end.


Now, now.  They were only kidding when they started setting up their shooting positions.  It was political speech.  Really and truly.
 
2014-04-29 12:34:26 PM  

ikanreed: They are armed and likely to resist arrest.


This is not a direct threat that we are talking about and you know it.  Maybe you missed the gist of the 2nd amendment as much as you have no clue about the 5th.

There is a possibility distinct possibility of this happening, but there is no direct deadly threat being displayed right now.  Thankfully, the BLM does not want to push the matter to find out if it will come to that.  They will get their way eventually.  Right now, the way forward is to do it in a way to minimize bloodshed.

I know that you and Super Pope would just love to see your political 'enemies' die in a fiery inferno, but luckily the Government has their big-boy pants on and are not listening to folks like you.
 
2014-04-29 12:36:49 PM  

ikanreed: HeadLever: Did they present or imply an imminent use of deadly force against said LEO?

Yes.  Exactly.  That's been done here.  They need to be detained to secure the site.  They are armed and likely to resist arrest.  If they do so: getting shot is inevitable.

The end.


Likely? They declared they would, built fortifications, and announced they would put human shields in front of them.
 
2014-04-29 12:41:20 PM  

Super_pope: Likely? They declared they would, built fortifications, and announced they would put human shields in front of them.


Hey, it's hard to know just how chickenshiat they actually are.  Most of these people have never actually been a live fire situation, and think lazily shooting on a range have prepared them for combat.
 
2014-04-29 12:47:41 PM  

ikanreed: Super_pope: Likely? They declared they would, built fortifications, and announced they would put human shields in front of them.

Hey, it's hard to know just how chickenshiat they actually are.  Most of these people have never actually been a live fire situation, and think lazily shooting on a range have prepared them for combat.


Oh well. Don't declare you've effectively annexed US territory without tanks and a bunch of SAM sites.
 
2014-04-29 12:56:26 PM  

cman: BS story? Oh HELLS yeah

Holder isn't an idiot. Dropping a bomb on American soil against civilians is political suicide regardless of it being justified or no.


lets be honest, dropping bomb on US civilians on US soil is only a problem if they are white.  The government can murder black people all they want.  I am looking at you Philadelphia.   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOVE
 
2014-04-29 12:57:48 PM  

Alphax: OutLawSuit: I'm all for this.

Cows + Hellfire Missiles = Excellent BBQ

Nah, that's overcooked.  Weapons that burn through a foot of steel?  What's left of the cow won't be tasty.


The trick is to detonate the missile's warhead the right distance from the cow.
 
2014-04-29 12:59:36 PM  

Super_pope: ikanreed: Super_pope: Likely? They declared they would, built fortifications, and announced they would put human shields in front of them.

Hey, it's hard to know just how chickenshiat they actually are.  Most of these people have never actually been a live fire situation, and think lazily shooting on a range have prepared them for combat.

Oh well. Don't declare you've effectively annexed US territory without tanks and a bunch of SAM sites.


Don't forget they have plenty of women and children to use as human shields. Didn't these same people say people in the Middle East are cowards for doing the same thing? But, first even hint of a whiff of an armed standoff and the first thing they do is say they are going to hide behind women?

Farking cowards, the whole lot of them. These are the types that masturbate thinking about how they will be the saviors of the day in these types of scenarios, now they are in this exact scenario, and suddenly it's all too real, and the 'enemy' has more training and firepower and their true colors come out: Hide behind the women. They're little boys playing a man's game.
 
2014-04-29 01:03:43 PM  

Wasteland: They were only kidding when they started setting up their shooting positions.


Yeah, those that were set up and aiming at folks was getting really close to crossing (if not stepping over) that line.
 
2014-04-29 01:08:17 PM  
I hope this goes the same way it went with the Montana Freemen (link) with negotiations and surrender, instead of a Branch Davidian or Ruby Ridge style resolution. Weighting against that is the volunteers that have joined Bundy in his act. I fear that at least some of them are mentally ill (paranoid schizophrenics) with their own windmills to tilt against, or psychopaths  with axes to grind.

Really, what sane person would join an armed defense against a government lien? It's lunacy, I don't think any of them will walk away unscathed. I hope it is only legal troubles that await them and not dirt naps.
 
2014-04-29 01:10:29 PM  

webron: The government can murder black people all they want.  I am looking at you Philadelphia.   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOVE


Is that why a jury found that this action was in violation of the constitution and awarded the survivors 1.5 million?  Sounds to me like they are not able to murder blacks 'all they want'.

Pretty much the same story here that (white) Randy Weaver was put through.
 
2014-04-29 01:12:02 PM  
They should be flying surveillance drones over them every hour all day and all night.
 
2014-04-29 01:15:39 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: They should be flying surveillance drones over them every hour all day and all night.


I bet you $1 they are. And from the video they get they are trying to identify each person out their. Those people will get a big surprise when they are trying to fly out to Aunt Trudy's for Thanksgiving and they find out they are on the no fly list.
 
2014-04-29 01:18:38 PM  

ongbok: I bet you $1 they are. And from the video they get they are trying to identify each person out their. Those people will get a big surprise when they are trying to fly out to Aunt Trudy's for Thanksgiving and they find out they are on the no fly list.


That would be soooooo awesome! Hell, they're against the government, they've said so in words and actions, that's sedition at it's finest. They should be taken to task for it.
 
2014-04-29 01:21:37 PM  
Whoever came up with the "Y'all Qaeda" moniker to describe anti-government, gun-toting rednecks deserves a free drink.
 
2014-04-29 01:26:34 PM  
Can I pay extra taxes to make this a possibility? I consider slaughtering hillbillies to be a wonderful use of tax dollars.
 
2014-04-29 01:26:42 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: They should be flying surveillance drones over them every hour all day and all night.


I just find this Mollycoddling shiat ridiculous. The only leverage these people have is their politically unpalatable deaths. At some point conservative Americans need to learn they can't keep taking themselves hostage to get things.

Call them an invading army and close the door on this shiat. Reclaim bundystan with fire and blood for the good of the nation
 
2014-04-29 02:03:37 PM  
Can't believe how my list of 'kill the hillbillies' has really exploded today.  It seems like you guys are getting just as nutty as the dumasses at the ranch as time goes on.
 
2014-04-29 02:41:46 PM  
FTA On Friday, John Jacob Schmidt of Radio Free Redoubt said that according to Stewart Rhodes, founder of Oath Keepers,

That's like 0-full retard in not even half a paragraph. Impressive, most impressive.

If anyone takes this seriously they're just bored assholes looking to post in a troll thread!
/Bored asshole posting in a troll thread
 
2014-04-29 02:44:05 PM  

Jackson Herring: On Friday, John Jacob Schmidt of said that according to Stewart Rhodes, founder of Oath Keepers, Fark user Jackson Herring has a 17-foot long penis


Seems legit. Totes magotes!
 
2014-04-29 02:45:43 PM  

HeadLever: This is not a direct threat that we are talking about and you know it. Maybe you missed the gist of the 2nd amendment as much as you have no clue about the 5th.


The second amendment does not grant anyone the right to use their guns to opt out of the rule of law.
 
2014-04-29 03:07:34 PM  

udhq: The second amendment does not grant anyone the right to use their guns to opt out of the rule of law.


Never said it does.  It does allow them to bear said arms.  As I understand, no one has 'used' their guns yet.  Feel free to provide me a place where a firearm has been fired at this point in the debacle.
 
2014-04-29 03:23:12 PM  

Super_pope: Baz744: women

Adults making the choice to be human shields in a violent confrontation they are provoking have no business complaining that someone has shot them.


This is true. But it doesn't make the men cowering behind them any less cowardly.


Tell them, "In 5 hours your house will explode and everything within at least 500 yards will be killed instantly by the intensity of the bomb.  It is already en-route and will detonate whether or not you stay or go."  If they were still there when it blew up I'd have been ecstatic, but you know they wouldn't be.

I like this idea, but you also need to put blockades at all points of egress to ensure their arrest.
 
2014-04-29 03:28:27 PM  

HeadLever: As I understand, no one has 'used' their guns yet.  Feel free to provide me a place where a firearm has been fired at this point in the debacle.


You're such an asshole.  At the very least this standoff is impeding a federal agent, assault, resisting... there are a TON of crimes being committed here.  You don't have to shoot at people to be committing a violent crime, and declaring that you will lethally resist your lawful apprehension makes you a prime-time candidate for termination by LEOs.

The problem is these people are very concentrated and armed, so if you go in and arrest them for all the shiat they're doing they'll get killed and it'll be a pain in someone's ass.  Nobody wants this particular pain in the ass.

That doesn't mean it shouldn't happen.

So by virtue of being dumb enough to form a little hillbilly army and make everything worse, these guys are allowed to continue breaking the law with abandon until enough of them give up or drink enough they decide to launch a, "HEY YA'LL WATCH THIS!"

I don't think its appropriate to leave them alone, this is not the kind of thing we can afford to be encouraging in a functioning society.  An armed blockade of federal agents with threats of violence, avowed battle plans, denouncements of authority [insert other stupid republican things to do here] certainly falls under "Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them..." that's what they're doing.  Treasonously leveling a non-shooting (yet) war against the Federal Government of the United States.

That's the kind of petty and insane belligerence I'm comfortable blowing up with a 4000 pound bomb.
 
2014-04-29 03:50:10 PM  

Super_pope: You're such an asshole.


Says the person that wants to drop a bomb on everyone. . . lol

Even if there are a ton of crimes committed here, we are still a nation of laws and it takes due process to work these out.  If you can't understand why due process is even in the Constitution, then I guess you are beyond reasoning with.
 
2014-04-29 04:11:16 PM  

FlashHarry: TheBigJerk: Bundy gang sets up highway checkpoints.

why the fark are these assholes not in jail? they've threatened federal officials with firearms. they're blocking roads. why aren't they in jail?


They are white, live in the country instead of the city, and wear cowboy hats instead of do-rags.

Even that is not entirely fair, there are a lot of neighborhoods in the ghettos where cars will be watched or even stopped for "looking out of place" by the local warlordsgangs.  They don't stop cops, or people who look like they have enough clout (money, power, whatever) to cause a problem, or they do it "accidentally" and back off when they realize it could start a problem but they do it.

Bundy's crew is likely doing it different, because they don't know what they're doing and because they aren't trying to watch rival gangs, (or rather they see the government as a rival gang) but it is a similar pattern.
 
2014-04-29 04:23:22 PM  

HeadLever: Even if there are a ton of crimes committed here, we are still a nation of laws and it takes due process to work these out. If you can't understand why due process is even in the Constitution, then I guess you are beyond reasoning with.


"Due process" means you allow the authorities to do their jobs in accordance with the law.  These thugs are unwilling to abide by that.  I'm not saying the should be killed, but police should move to arrest them, and be prepared to meet any violent resistance with overwhelming force.
 
2014-04-29 04:32:21 PM  
I think we should give up.

HeadLever doesn't get that his pro-2nd amendment stance has lead to an arms race with criminals, that, surprise surprise, comes back to bite his racist 2nd amendment buddies in the ass when it comes to arrest time.  It's just too much for him.
 
2014-04-29 04:34:24 PM  

HeadLever: ikanreed: Yeah, no way cops shoot dangerous suspects all the time, when it's necessary.  No jurisprudence for "justifiable homocide in protecting the peace"

Not sure if you missed or ignored by point about beingactively threatened.  Justifiable homicide does not include killing folks that have not 1) been found guilty of a death penalty type crime or 2) present a threat of deadly force.

There is this thing in this country called Due Process.  Maybe you should research it.


I have.  Seems to apply based on an inverse square function of the amount of melanin a person has.
 
2014-04-29 04:42:50 PM  

udhq: "Due process" means you allow the authorities to do their jobs in accordance with the law.  These thugs are unwilling to abide by that.  I'm not saying the should be killed, but police should move to arrest them, and be prepared to meet any violent resistance with overwhelming force.


Yep.  "I do not acknowledge your authority and we are deployed to fight you."  How much more due process could there be when that's the position of the guys you're trying to apprehend?  Certainly we can wait them out, but I have no idea why we should.  They're an army and they're there to fight the government to the last drop of blood.  They'll tell you that themselves.  You don't need to convict them of anything because they've announced they'll be attempting to murder you as you try to apprehend them.

Its just more convenient for everyone to drop a bomb on them.  There's no reason to play into their adolescent fantasies with a gigantic firefight and a heroic last stand.  Give them the opportunity to vacate and get arrested, they can get their due process then.  Anyone who doesn't leave can get cleanly and extremely dead.

Or just declare them a treasonous invading army and kill them without warning.  Which I prefer but whatever.
 
2014-04-29 04:48:45 PM  
 drone strikes against the bundy ranch?
lh5.googleusercontent.com
 
2014-04-29 04:58:13 PM  

chasd00:

you couldn't be more wrong. If there's a stand off and confrontation every militia will flock to the area and you'll end up with a Waco 10x situation with no choice but to take them all down. It would be a nightmare.



i.kinja-img.com
 
2014-04-29 05:06:13 PM  

Crabs_Can_Polevault: Notabunny: I thought they decided to put a lien on his cattle. That escalated quickly.

But remember: If you lien on them too hard, they tip over.


You waited YEARS for that opportunity, didn't ya?
 
2014-04-29 05:33:10 PM  

Gyrfalcon: Crabs_Can_Polevault: Notabunny: I thought they decided to put a lien on his cattle. That escalated quickly.

But remember: If you lien on them too hard, they tip over.

You waited YEARS for that opportunity, didn't ya?


When you see an opening you've gotta moove.
 
2014-04-29 05:53:13 PM  

cman: BS story? Oh HELLS yeah

Holder isn't an idiot. Dropping a bomb on American soil against civilians is political suicide regardless of it being justified or no.


31.media.tumblr.com
 
2014-04-29 06:14:58 PM  

HeadLever: udhq: The second amendment does not grant anyone the right to use their guns to opt out of the rule of law.

Never said it does.  It does allow them to bear said arms.  As I understand, no one has 'used' their guns yet.  Feel free to provide me a place where a firearm has been fired at this point in the debacle.


So your stance here is that LEOs are required to refrain from the use of force against armed opposition until they're being immediately fired upon?  That no matter what threats and active preparations are being made by people keeping them from carrying out their duties, it's wrong for them to take action until someone actually opens fire?

I'm as short-tempered with law enforcement as anyone, but the crap you're spouting here is a step too far.  No one is obligated to sit there with their thumbs up their asses waiting around for someone to eat a bullet, on the grounds that b-b-b-but no fair, we didn't kill anyone yet, you have to wait until we call time in!

They were taking up shooting positions, and knowingly doing so against government employees there to carry out their jobs as ordered by a court of law.  That wasn't just a threat of deadly force, it was a goddamn promise.  If they get themselves shot, then fark 'em, they've earned it.
 
2014-04-29 06:15:22 PM  

HeadLever: udhq: The second amendment does not grant anyone the right to use their guns to opt out of the rule of law.

Never said it does.  It does allow them to bear said arms.  As I understand, no one has 'used' their guns yet.  Feel free to provide me a place where a firearm has been fired at this point in the debacle.


Brandishing or threatening with a firearm is illegal under Nevada law.  A weapon doesn't not have to fired, to be used in an illegal manner.
 
2014-04-29 07:25:08 PM  

HeadLever: udhq: The second amendment does not grant anyone the right to use their guns to opt out of the rule of law.

Never said it does.  It does allow them to bear said arms.  As I understand, no one has 'used' their guns yet.  Feel free to provide me a place where a firearm has been fired at this point in the debacle.


A firearm does not need to be fired to be used effectively.
 
2014-04-29 08:47:56 PM  

HeadLever: Super_pope: If he were camped out in their front yard with an arsenal daring them to come out? Totally.

Nope.  Doesn't pass legal mustard, ITG.


What passing legal mustard might look like

img.fark.net
 
2014-04-29 09:49:13 PM  

nyseattitude: cman: BS story? Oh HELLS yeah

Holder isn't an idiot. Dropping a bomb on American soil against civilians is political suicide regardless of it being justified or no.

[31.media.tumblr.com image 625x414]


Yep and a jury found that the city violated the Constitutional rights of the folks that were killed.
 
2014-04-29 09:50:49 PM  

udhq: I'm not saying the should be killed, but police should move to arrest them, and be prepared to meet any violent resistance with overwhelming force.


But what if moving to arrest them is very likely to cause many to be killed - kind of like Waco?
 
2014-04-29 09:52:15 PM  

Wasteland: So your stance here is that LEOs are required to refrain from the use of force against armed opposition until they're being immediately fired upon?


Required?  Not necessarily.

Good judgement at this point?  Yep.
 
2014-04-29 09:53:36 PM  

Sgt Otter: Brandishing or threatening with a firearm is illegal under Nevada law.


Yeah, so?  I'd be fine with the feds just adding that to the list of charges when they are eventually apprehended.
 
2014-04-29 09:55:11 PM  

chuggernaught: A firearm does not need to be fired to be used effectively.


That is what the militia crowd is counting on.  It will eventually backfire for them and we'll all get a good laugh when it does.
 
2014-04-29 10:29:27 PM  

Alphax: OutLawSuit: I'm all for this.

Cows + Hellfire Missiles = Excellent BBQ

Nah, that's overcooked.  Weapons that burn through a foot of steel?  What's left of the cow won't be tasty.


Light sprinkling of napalm then? And some salt and pepper grenades for flavor!
 
2014-04-30 07:21:42 AM  

HeadLever: Sgt Otter: Brandishing or threatening with a firearm is illegal under Nevada law.

Yeah, so?  I'd be fine with the feds just adding that to the list of charges when they are eventually apprehended.


You don't get to dictate when you get arrested because you brought a lot of guns and threats. That's not how getting arrested works
 
2014-04-30 10:09:54 AM  

Zeb Hesselgresser: Don't worry, the time will come when this sort of civil disobedience will be met with a swift and brutal response.  Right now, it's just not politically expedient.

Be patient, we'll get our boots on their throats soon enough.


well i asked if there was anyone on fark who still defends this racist moocher... i guess i got my answer!
 
2014-04-30 10:51:07 AM  

HeadLever: udhq: I'm not saying the should be killed, but police should move to arrest them, and be prepared to meet any violent resistance with overwhelming force.

But what if moving to arrest them is very likely to cause many to be killed - kind of like Waco?


Something something rule of law.  Something something due process.

Oh, you mean you think that those are one way streets.  Ok.  Well FWIW part of getting your "due process" is by adhering to "the process" which means you answer subpoena's, comply with lawful orders by the police, and appear at court if called.

"Hiding out on your ranch and threatening to shoot you a tax man if he comes within a hundred yards of your property" isn't "due process" it's "flounting the law".

Oh boo hoo, it might be dangerous and people might die.  We do this every day for drug crimes.  Run into potentially dangerous situations and arrest people who have utter disregard for their safety and that of those around them.

But this is different.  Because reasons.
 
2014-04-30 11:22:30 AM  

BeesNuts: HeadLever: udhq: I'm not saying the should be killed, but police should move to arrest them, and be prepared to meet any violent resistance with overwhelming force.

But what if moving to arrest them is very likely to cause many to be killed - kind of like Waco?

Something something rule of law.  Something something due process.

Oh, you mean you think that those are one way streets.  Ok.  Well FWIW part of getting your "due process" is by adhering to "the process" which means you answer subpoena's, comply with lawful orders by the police, and appear at court if called.

"Hiding out on your ranch and threatening to shoot you a tax man if he comes within a hundred yards of your property" isn't "due process" it's "flounting the law".

Oh boo hoo, it might be dangerous and people might die.  We do this every day for drug crimes.  Run into potentially dangerous situations and arrest people who have utter disregard for their safety and that of those around them.

But this is different.  Because reasons.


He's done replying because we're unreasonable :P
 
2014-04-30 12:13:15 PM  
Has anyone won the thread yet?
 
2014-04-30 04:30:28 PM  

SenorPez: Has anyone won the thread yet?


The  Derpinistas?
 
2014-04-30 04:41:36 PM  

Laobaojun: SenorPez: Has anyone won the thread yet?

The  Derpinistas?


No! It is WharDerpocancrats
 
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