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2014-04-28 11:25:59 PM
I can't believe people still go to that place.

And eat a dick, autoplay.
 
2014-04-28 11:42:25 PM
So the vests come with a bonesaw so you can cut your own leg off as the whale is pulling you under for the last time?
 
2014-04-28 11:44:38 PM
Yeah right. Whales hate wearing vests.

/DNRTFA.
 
2014-04-29 02:24:49 AM
CSB: My wife and I went to Marine World in Vallejo, CA around 2005 or so. We went to the killer whale show with Shouka that afternoon and right off the bat, Shouka popped up on the little ramp in the middle of the pool and went after the trainer. Had her backed against the wall and everything. Scared the shiat out of everyone. They cancelled the show and told everyone to come back for the second one. When we came back, Shouka was nowhere to be found, the arena was empty, and the trainer was saying that Shouka was in her breeding season and wasn't tolerating anyone's shiat for the time being. After I saw Blackfish, I started Googling around and discovered that Shouka had just recently been transferred to Sea World so that she'd have another killer whale to be with and that she had a long and regular history of going after her trainers. The whole thing just made me wary of going to these kinds of parks anymore.
 
2014-04-29 02:31:36 AM
Am I the only perv who rubbed one out while watching "Orca" and seeing Bo Derek get her leg in a cast torn off by a giant whale?
 
2014-04-29 02:40:46 AM
Nom nom nom.

Seriously, I don't know why it's so hard to reach a compromise, and that quickly and easily in this issue. Actually, I do, because compromise is apparently a BAD WORD in America today. But it seems simple enough to 1) stop having orca and dolphin shows immediately; 2) continue the research and rescue work that Sea World does, and does well; and 3) begin using that same research to design and develop ways to either rehabilitate and release the orcas and dolphins (unlikely for a variety of reasons) or create habitats, similar to whats been done for research and circus chimps who have been rescued from similar situations.

It seems to me to be the only equitable thing to do. Without the past 50 years of research and, yes, experimentation that Sea World has done, we would not know what we know about dolphins and orcas: The degree of intelligence and social interaction those animals have, the level of self-awareness they have, and the extreme bonds between them and their environment. We didn't used to know that. We know now. It's not a case of disavowing everything that's been done in the name of going forward; but there is no way we can justify going forward in the same way we have been.

So why isn't everyone, even those who say "They're just animals" insisting that in the name of fairness, this is the only right thing to do?
 
2014-04-29 02:53:05 AM

Jizz Master Zero: CSB: My wife and I went to Marine World in Vallejo, CA around 2005 or so. We went to the killer whale show with Shouka that afternoon and right off the bat, Shouka popped up on the little ramp in the middle of the pool and went after the trainer. Had her backed against the wall and everything. Scared the shiat out of everyone. They cancelled the show and told everyone to come back for the second one. When we came back, Shouka was nowhere to be found, the arena was empty, and the trainer was saying that Shouka was in her breeding season and wasn't tolerating anyone's shiat for the time being. After I saw Blackfish, I started Googling around and discovered that Shouka had just recently been transferred to Sea World so that she'd have another killer whale to be with and that she had a long and regular history of going after her trainers. The whole thing just made me wary of going to these kinds of parks anymore.


Wary? Why?
Were you in danger? LOL

Like all zoos ... aquariums are big cages. Bigger than the crappy cages at circuses, nothing more, nothing less.
 
2014-04-29 02:56:47 AM
I understand that some of these performing whales are rescues and that all of them would fail miserably were they released into the wild, but cant they be confined comfortably,  without having to become dancing bears of a sort?
 
2014-04-29 03:02:17 AM

TomD9938: I understand that some of these performing whales are rescues and that all of them would fail miserably were they released into the wild, but cant they be confined comfortably,  without having to become dancing bears of a sort?


Or made into sushi?

I haven't seen Blackfish, but I'm kind of wary of whether it paints a fair picture, not that I have any love for Sea World.   Are they still owned by Anheisur Busch?
 
2014-04-29 03:08:04 AM

gfid: TomD9938: I understand that some of these performing whales are rescues and that all of them would fail miserably were they released into the wild, but cant they be confined comfortably,  without having to become dancing bears of a sort?


Or made into sushi?

That'd give them more purpose than balancing a goddamn ball on their nose.  That's for farking sure.

/ hate that shiat...
 
2014-04-29 03:10:00 AM
Gyrfalcon: Seriously, I don't know why it's so hard to reach a compromise, and that quickly and easily in this issue. Actually, I do, because compromise is apparently a BAD WORD in America on the internet today.

FTFY
 
2014-04-29 03:23:40 AM

TomD9938: gfid: TomD9938: I understand that some of these performing whales are rescues and that all of them would fail miserably were they released into the wild, but cant they be confined comfortably,  without having to become dancing bears of a sort?

Or made into sushi?

That'd give them more purpose than balancing a goddamn ball on their nose.  That's for farking sure.

/ hate that shiat...



I am frankly disgusted that you overlooked such an obvious pun.

Are you even a real farker?

Are you just someone's mom commenting on their account?

I suspected something was off when you showed signs of empathy, but when you miss a porpoise pun in a seaworld thread...

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2014-04-29 03:25:00 AM
Whale shows are like F1GP. The only reason anyone puts up with the ordinary boring spectacle is with the anticipation of a rare but horrific accident occurring.
 
2014-04-29 03:31:37 AM

drxym: Whale shows are like F1GP. The only reason anyone puts up with the ordinary boring spectacle is with the anticipation of a rare but horrific accident occurring.


link.photo.pchome.com.tw

You want to see a horrific accident? See Rust and Bone, starring Marion Cotillard. A gut-wrenching performance.
 
2014-04-29 03:39:19 AM

hubris73: TomD9938: gfid: TomD9938: I understand that some of these performing whales are rescues and that all of them would fail miserably were they released into the wild, but cant they be confined comfortably,  without having to become dancing bears of a sort?

Or made into sushi?

That'd give them more purpose than balancing a goddamn ball on their nose.  That's for farking sure.

/ hate that shiat...


I am frankly disgusted that you overlooked such an obvious pun.

Are you even a real farker?

Are you just someone's mom commenting on their account?

I suspected something was off when you showed signs of empathy, but when you miss a porpoise pun in a seaworld thread...

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Oh, I saw it (after a preview).

I even considered a rewording to lose the pun, or to adopt it entirely.

Then I said, "No".  "I wont be subjected to such peer pressure, like I was back in school".
 
2014-04-29 04:32:17 AM

Mugato: I can't believe people still go to that place.

And eat a dick, autoplay.


What is it, like $30? And you get a chance to see someone eaten in vengeance by a killer whale? That's like real-life Tarantino.
 
2014-04-29 04:42:19 AM
How is it not obvious to the whole world that the confinement of such animals for the sole purpose of entertaining us completely wrong? The practice should be outlawed immediately.

I for one don't need to run down to sea world every few years and see Orca caged up to understand their unique role and beauty.

It's disgusting.
 
2014-04-29 04:42:20 AM
First off, killer whales technically aren't whales; they're dolphins. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delphinidae Their name is a mistranslation- they should actually be called whale killers. Because they kill whales. If a freakin' dolphin can kill a whale, it most certainly can kill a human.

http://animals.about.com/od/cetaceans/p/orca.htm

This fun fact brought to you by QI.
 
2014-04-29 05:27:09 AM
Awwww poor fella they just want kill all humans. I means whats wrong with that.
 
2014-04-29 05:45:04 AM
My siblings have a weird fascination with Blackfish. My sister confesses to having watched it over 20 times. My brother has said he wants to get a "Tillicum: 3-0" tattoo and/or go to Sea World holding up a sign that says as much. They get a weird enjoyment out of whales murdering people.

jmr61: How is it not obvious to the whole world that the confinement of such animals for the sole purpose of entertaining us completely wrong? The practice should be outlawed immediately.

I for one don't need to run down to sea world every few years and see Orca caged up to understand their unique role and beauty.

It's disgusting.


Eh, it's where the dollars are. Wildlife preserves, pet shelters, marine life research missions, etc... all of those things benefit from the dollars zoos bring. I'd agree that there's no real need to train the orcas and dolphins to do pointless stunts, but preserving a population in captivity is not a bad thing necessarily. Lots of kids are inspired by their trips to the zoo/Sea World to later devote their lives towards saving animals in some way. The push towards wildlife preservation is stronger, more organized and better funded now than at any other time in history, and the US is leading the way on that in some ways (granted, the US also leads the push towards wildlife destruction as well).That's because we've had a few generations now that have gotten to see and learn about exotic animals at various types of zoos. It helps the movement.
 
2014-04-29 06:12:46 AM
Works for the police.
 
2014-04-29 06:33:29 AM
Well that settles that. Carry on.
 
2014-04-29 06:43:07 AM
The clue is in the name: killer whale. Pilot whales got their name because they all wear Ray-Bans. I don't want to know how the sperm whale got its name. (Ron White).
 
2014-04-29 06:43:56 AM
Think they got the female trainer's ass on camera long enough?
 
2014-04-29 07:20:35 AM
So the vests give you a whole four minutes of air, huh? How generous.

Except it doesn't mean much when the whale wants to hold you down for 10 minutes.
 
2014-04-29 07:28:23 AM

lacydog: Eh, it's where the dollars are. Wildlife preserves, pet shelters, marine life research missions, etc... all of those things benefit from the dollars zoos bring. I'd agree that there's no real need to train the orcas and dolphins to do pointless stunts, but preserving a population in captivity is not a bad thing necessarily. Lots of kids are inspired by their trips to the zoo/Sea World to later devote their lives towards saving animals in some way. The push towards wildlife preservation is stronger, more organized and better funded now than at any other time in history, and the US is leading the way on that in some ways (granted, the US also leads the push towards wildlife destruction as well).That's because we've had a few generations now that have gotten to see and learn about exotic animals at various types of zoos. It helps the movement.


I agree. That said, I think Sea World, if it wants to continue needs to undergo the same 'modernization' a lot of Zoos have. Become a place of education - with legitimate scientific facts offered - without the animals being made to perform stupid tricks. Build them habitats that will at least approach suitable - which is quite difficult given the range these animals usually roam. It can be a place of research, outreach and conservation, that happens to be entertaining rather than an entertainment venue first. And no more wild captures.
 
2014-04-29 07:47:12 AM

Ryker's Peninsula: Am I the only perv who rubbed one out while watching "Orca" and seeing Bo Derek get her leg in a cast torn off by a giant whale?


Charlotte Rampling was hotter.
 
2014-04-29 07:50:49 AM

sleeper2995: Awwww poor fella they just want kill all humans. I means whats wrong with that.


I don't want to live in a world where there is something wrong with killing all humans!

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2014-04-29 07:50:51 AM
Really ?????   You're in the pool (really, it's just a big swimming pool) with a potentially hostile Killer Whale and they want you to wear a life jacket ?????  WHY ???

So the whale can have a bouncy toy instead of a sinky one ???
 
2014-04-29 07:55:39 AM

lacydog: My siblings have a weird fascination with Blackfish. My sister confesses to having watched it over 20 times. My brother has said he wants to get a "Tillicum: 3-0" tattoo and/or go to Sea World holding up a sign that says as much. They get a weird enjoyment out of whales murdering people.

jmr61: How is it not obvious to the whole world that the confinement of such animals for the sole purpose of entertaining us completely wrong? The practice should be outlawed immediately.

I for one don't need to run down to sea world every few years and see Orca caged up to understand their unique role and beauty.

It's disgusting.

Eh, it's where the dollars are. Wildlife preserves, pet shelters, marine life research missions, etc... all of those things benefit from the dollars zoos bring. I'd agree that there's no real need to train the orcas and dolphins to do pointless stunts, but preserving a population in captivity is not a bad thing necessarily. Lots of kids are inspired by their trips to the zoo/Sea World to later devote their lives towards saving animals in some way. The push towards wildlife preservation is stronger, more organized and better funded now than at any other time in history, and the US is leading the way on that in some ways (granted, the US also leads the push towards wildlife destruction as well).That's because we've had a few generations now that have gotten to see and learn about exotic animals at various types of zoos. It helps the movement.


you insert a moral element where none exists. The correct word is "kill". Animals have no sense of morality, but what they do have is a sense of danger, and the possibility of losing their minds in captivity (like any captive animal). Once an Orca realizes that it's "masters" are soft, squishy, and susceptible to harm, then they will inflict harm in the hope that they will not be abused. I am afraid they have no concept of the almighty dollar, so it will always be a dashed hope.
 
2014-04-29 07:56:33 AM

Strik3r: Really ?????   You're in the pool (really, it's just a big swimming pool) with a potentially hostile Killer Whale and they want you to wear a life jacket ?????  WHY ???

So the whale can have a bouncy toy instead of a sinky one ???


well, of course.... it's all about the entertainment value / dollar spent.
 
2014-04-29 07:58:33 AM

namatad: Jizz Master Zero: CSB: My wife and I went to Marine World in Vallejo, CA around 2005 or so. We went to the killer whale show with Shouka that afternoon and right off the bat, Shouka popped up on the little ramp in the middle of the pool and went after the trainer. Had her backed against the wall and everything. Scared the shiat out of everyone. They cancelled the show and told everyone to come back for the second one. When we came back, Shouka was nowhere to be found, the arena was empty, and the trainer was saying that Shouka was in her breeding season and wasn't tolerating anyone's shiat for the time being. After I saw Blackfish, I started Googling around and discovered that Shouka had just recently been transferred to Sea World so that she'd have another killer whale to be with and that she had a long and regular history of going after her trainers. The whole thing just made me wary of going to these kinds of parks anymore.

Wary? Why?
Were you in danger? LOL

Like all zoos ... aquariums are big cages. Bigger than the crappy cages at circuses, nothing more, nothing less.


1) If zoos had shows where trainers go into the cages with top predators and make them do tricks, you'd be right.

2) In my dotage, I've grown averse to seeing fellow humans killed in front of me. That's probably what ZMZ is wary about.
 
2014-04-29 08:06:17 AM
I was hoping it was an Al Qaeda style suicide vest. If I'm a trainer about to drown, I'm taking that blood thirsty son of a biatch with me.
 
2014-04-29 08:23:39 AM

TomD9938: gfid: TomD9938: I understand that some of these performing whales are rescues and that all of them would fail miserably were they released into the wild, but cant they be confined comfortably,  without having to become dancing bears of a sort?

Or made into sushi?

That'd give them more purpose than balancing a goddamn ball on their nose.  That's for farking sure.

/ hate that shiat...


You hate Sushi?

28.media.tumblr.com
 
2014-04-29 08:57:03 AM
If you set up a false environment, place wild alien creatures in it and then make assumptions about their behavior in their natural habitat, won't your conclusions naturally be suspect? Sea World doesn't do science at its parks.
 
2014-04-29 09:24:19 AM

gfid: I haven't seen Blackfish, but I'm kind of wary of whether it paints a fair picture, not that I have any love for Sea World. Are they still owned by Anheisur Busch?


Blackfish is definitely pretty heavy handed in its message, and it certainly isn't partial in any way. I have no doubt that liberties were taken in the facts and a lot of the story comes from some very anti-Sea World people (how accurate are the facts that you get from PETA?).

That said, taking a 5 or 6 ton animal, that is very smart, and supposed to swim thousands of miles in the open ocean.... and then confining them to a swimming pool and making them do tricks for food...it's really the nicest thing either (no matter how well the animals are cared for).
 
2014-04-29 09:41:21 AM
I don't have a problem with orcas being in captivity. What gets me is that if you look at Seaworld Orlando from Google Maps, the whales spend most of their lives in very small pens. The entire backstage area is perhaps 2.5x the front area but its divided into pens, presumably so calves, mothers and sick animals can be split up. So each pen is very small. Animals are kept separate presumably because they are profitable but it does their sanity no favours.

I don't believe this is at all acceptable not least because right next to the whale area is an enormous lake. Seaworld could have easily made their pens 2-3x as large, perhaps even make an exhibit out of it. Yes it would cost money and yes it would bring its own issues. But they chose not to do it at all. It's not right. Every animal in captivity deserves something as close to their natural habitat that the zoo / park can provide.
 
2014-04-29 09:44:39 AM
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2014-04-29 09:59:32 AM

MrBallou: 1) If zoos had shows where trainers go into the cages with top predators and make them do tricks, you'd be right.


You mean like the circus?
 
2014-04-29 10:31:29 AM

dittybopper: MrBallou: 1) If zoos had shows where trainers go into the cages with top predators and make them do tricks, you'd be right.

You mean like the circus?


Obviously similar, but this is more entertaining.

I'm picturing lions prowling around in a big open grassy enclosure (natural habitat style) with the trainer standing in the middle holding a bucket of bloody antelope chucks he's planning to use as treats for the lions when they do their tricks right.
 
2014-04-29 11:15:53 AM
From what I've read about past Killer Whale attacks, the vest is just a gesture to appease regulators.  It does not hold enough air for a prolonged submerging, it doesn't say if it is somewhat armored for core body protection, even when inflated, that is not going to keep the whales away from you, and the whales are very smart.  They will find another way to kill you.

Also these trainers know the risks, the environment is very controlled (except for that one incident with the drunk at night).  You are in the water, that is the whales domain, if it wants to kill you it will.
 
2014-04-29 11:34:20 AM

drxym: I don't have a problem with orcas being in captivity. What gets me is that if you look at Seaworld Orlando from Google Maps, the whales spend most of their lives in very small pens. The entire backstage area is perhaps 2.5x the front area but its divided into pens, presumably so calves, mothers and sick animals can be split up. So each pen is very small. Animals are kept separate presumably because they are profitable but it does their sanity no favours.

I don't believe this is at all acceptable not least because right next to the whale area is an enormous lake. Seaworld could have easily made their pens 2-3x as large, perhaps even make an exhibit out of it. Yes it would cost money and yes it would bring its own issues. But they chose not to do it at all. It's not right. Every animal in captivity deserves something as close to their natural habitat that the zoo / park can provide.


This has been my thought since the first time I went there, around age 6. Heck; they don't even *do* the ski show anymore (at least, last time I went they weren't and hadn't in years), so that huge lake just sits there doing nothing. I think there're paddleboats on one end, but that's it. Heck, great idea I just thought of: make the pens bigger by bringing them farther out into the lake, built up to make them deeper with sections of glass walls like in the stadium itself, then you can paddle boat out and boat along side them. Need a smaller area to care for them or temporarily isolate? Have sections that close and open, with the stadium as the staging area. They can still 'perform', but with more natural/necessary 'tricks' (rolls, leaps out of the water for quick exams, etc), and can otherwise just be observed from different vantage points (stadium, restaurant, paddleboats) , with private areas to escape to when they need to be alone.

I know they can make awesome habitats for the animals that are still entertaining to guests: wild arctic, the seal/walrus habitat (particularly awesome. Those seals can come almost within petting distance but it's all on their terms and they can leave the people area completely if they wish), and even the dolphin petting area (though there's something to be desired in the size... and it's like 3 times larger than it was when I first started going there. They have lots to entertain and engage their minds though) come to mind. They also have a nice area (most of which isn't seen by guests) for manatee rehab. So why such terrible conditions for the Orca?

/have not seen Blackfish, and honestly otherwise love going to Seaworld. Stopped even going to the Shamu stadium years ago though, as it's really jarring seeing all the happily engaged animals doing their thing, then seeing the killer whales just pace in their pens like giant caged lions in a roadside zoo.
 
2014-04-29 12:25:41 PM

Literally Addicted: So the vests give you a whole four minutes of air, huh? How generous.

Except it doesn't mean much when the whale wants to hold you down for 10 minutes.



Four minutes of air?
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2014-04-29 01:06:52 PM

HindiDiscoMonster: lacydog: My siblings have a weird fascination with Blackfish. My sister confesses to having watched it over 20 times. My brother has said he wants to get a "Tillicum: 3-0" tattoo and/or go to Sea World holding up a sign that says as much. They get a weird enjoyment out of whales murdering people.

jmr61: How is it not obvious to the whole world that the confinement of such animals for the sole purpose of entertaining us completely wrong? The practice should be outlawed immediately.

I for one don't need to run down to sea world every few years and see Orca caged up to understand their unique role and beauty.

It's disgusting.

Eh, it's where the dollars are. Wildlife preserves, pet shelters, marine life research missions, etc... all of those things benefit from the dollars zoos bring. I'd agree that there's no real need to train the orcas and dolphins to do pointless stunts, but preserving a population in captivity is not a bad thing necessarily. Lots of kids are inspired by their trips to the zoo/Sea World to later devote their lives towards saving animals in some way. The push towards wildlife preservation is stronger, more organized and better funded now than at any other time in history, and the US is leading the way on that in some ways (granted, the US also leads the push towards wildlife destruction as well).That's because we've had a few generations now that have gotten to see and learn about exotic animals at various types of zoos. It helps the movement.

you insert a moral element where none exists. The correct word is "kill". Animals have no sense of morality, but what they do have is a sense of danger, and the possibility of losing their minds in captivity (like any captive animal). Once an Orca realizes that it's "masters" are soft, squishy, and susceptible to harm, then they will inflict harm in the hope that they will not be abused. I am afraid they have no concept of the almighty dollar, so it will always be a dashed hope.


I'm an animal, Greg. Do I have a sense of morality?
 
2014-04-29 01:22:10 PM

drxym: I don't believe this is at all acceptable not least because right next to the whale area is an enormous lake.


Salt water aquariums, how do they work?
If only there were a large body of sea water near Florida...
 
2014-04-29 02:38:58 PM

SeriousGeorge: HindiDiscoMonster: lacydog: My siblings have a weird fascination with Blackfish. My sister confesses to having watched it over 20 times. My brother has said he wants to get a "Tillicum: 3-0" tattoo and/or go to Sea World holding up a sign that says as much. They get a weird enjoyment out of whales murdering people.

jmr61: How is it not obvious to the whole world that the confinement of such animals for the sole purpose of entertaining us completely wrong? The practice should be outlawed immediately.

I for one don't need to run down to sea world every few years and see Orca caged up to understand their unique role and beauty.

It's disgusting.

Eh, it's where the dollars are. Wildlife preserves, pet shelters, marine life research missions, etc... all of those things benefit from the dollars zoos bring. I'd agree that there's no real need to train the orcas and dolphins to do pointless stunts, but preserving a population in captivity is not a bad thing necessarily. Lots of kids are inspired by their trips to the zoo/Sea World to later devote their lives towards saving animals in some way. The push towards wildlife preservation is stronger, more organized and better funded now than at any other time in history, and the US is leading the way on that in some ways (granted, the US also leads the push towards wildlife destruction as well).That's because we've had a few generations now that have gotten to see and learn about exotic animals at various types of zoos. It helps the movement.

you insert a moral element where none exists. The correct word is "kill". Animals have no sense of morality, but what they do have is a sense of danger, and the possibility of losing their minds in captivity (like any captive animal). Once an Orca realizes that it's "masters" are soft, squishy, and susceptible to harm, then they will inflict harm in the hope that they will not be abused. I am afraid they have no concept of the almighty dollar, so it will always be a dashed hope.

I'm an animal, Greg. Do I have a sense of morality?


Well, maybe not YOU... but most people. =P
 
2014-04-29 03:50:17 PM

fasahd: TomD9938: gfid: TomD9938: I understand that some of these performing whales are rescues and that all of them would fail miserably were they released into the wild, but cant they be confined comfortably,  without having to become dancing bears of a sort?

Or made into sushi?

That'd give them more purpose than balancing a goddamn ball on their nose.  That's for farking sure.

/ hate that shiat...

You hate Sushi?

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2014-04-30 01:07:47 AM
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Here is the new vest. Flattering, no ?
 
2014-04-30 02:32:04 AM

MrBallou: namatad: Jizz Master Zero: CSB: My wife and I went to Marine World in Vallejo, CA around 2005 or so. We went to the killer whale show with Shouka that afternoon and right off the bat, Shouka popped up on the little ramp in the middle of the pool and went after the trainer. Had her backed against the wall and everything. Scared the shiat out of everyone. They cancelled the show and told everyone to come back for the second one. When we came back, Shouka was nowhere to be found, the arena was empty, and the trainer was saying that Shouka was in her breeding season and wasn't tolerating anyone's shiat for the time being. After I saw Blackfish, I started Googling around and discovered that Shouka had just recently been transferred to Sea World so that she'd have another killer whale to be with and that she had a long and regular history of going after her trainers. The whole thing just made me wary of going to these kinds of parks anymore.

Wary? Why?
Were you in danger? LOL

Like all zoos ... aquariums are big cages. Bigger than the crappy cages at circuses, nothing more, nothing less.

1) If zoos had shows where trainers go into the cages with top predators and make them do tricks, you'd be right.

2) In my dotage, I've grown averse to seeing fellow humans killed in front of me. That's probably what ZMZ is wary about.


Exactly. Considering that these attacks are apparently a far more common occurrence than we've thought, I kind of would rather avoid watching an angry animal attack and potentially kill a person.
 
2014-04-30 04:37:12 AM

WelldeadLink: Salt water aquariums, how do they work?
If only there were a large body of sea water near Florida...


Orlando isn't near the sea but there is nothing to stop Seaworld from taking advantage of the enormous lake nearby to construct a larger area and exhibit for the whales. And Seaworld San Diego *is* by the sea. It has zero excuse. It even has an outdoor arena facing the sea which they could repurpose.

But I don't believe for a second they give a damn. The whales are profitable the way they are and it would require falling attendances and a change in public mood to make them change their minds.
 
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