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2014-04-29 06:48:18 AM

gfid: impaler: gfid: So you're just a normal atheist then, not a radical anti-Christian.  I tried to make the distinction.  Very good then.  I didn't mean you then.

Then you're fighting what would be considered a non-existent monster, or a very angry kitten.

Nope.

You're reading comprehension sucks.


Lol
 
2014-04-29 06:53:38 AM
Hey! Morons.

China's screwing you over WAY more than just your religious-ness...

/Just thought I'd try to point you in a direction to pay attention to, that MATTERS.
 
2014-04-29 07:36:04 AM

GungFu: TUBBYtheTOOBER: Tearing down the only good looking building in China. It existing made Made In China seem expensive.

RLY?

That's a house of a god with a very tiny penis.
[i.telegraph.co.uk image 460x287]
Money could have been better spent on tiger penises.


Yeah, that looks pretty horrible.
 
2014-04-29 08:20:03 AM
bks8.books.google.com  Wait...this happened before didn't it?
 
2014-04-29 08:21:57 AM

ScreamingHangover: Kevin72: ScreamingHangover: Kevin72: ScreamingHangover: Kevin72: meat0918: The Chinese have more to dislike about Christianity than most, considering the wholesale slaughter that occurred there during that Taiping Rebellion, although Mao did cite that rebellion as inspiration.

So in a weird roundabout way, Jesus is responsible for Chinese Communism.

What you are saying about the 1800s is true. But Dr. Sun Yat-Sen, founder of the Republic of China in 1912, and his daughters, were Christian. And that daughter AKA Madame Chiang Kai-Shek had a big influence on the Christianity of the Second leader of the Republic of China, Chiang Kai Shek. To this day, the Republic of China on Taiwan has incredible freedom of religion, including Taoism Confusianism all types of Buddhism and about 9% Christianity.


So you're saying it was the  Christian influence that made Chiang Kai-Shek a corrupt  dictator who murder over 10 million people?

Are you getting your information from Japan "we were just trying to set up an Asian co-prosperity sphere when the USA dropped those two nukes on us" or just regular Communist propoganda lies about the Republic of China on Taiwan to justify their treason and hide how successful Taiwan has been while keeping freedom of religion, voting, business, and education?

Well, I'm getting some of the body count directly from the former president of Taiwan, but don't let that interfere with your delusions about the coward who took his troops and abandoned Nanking to the Japanese while forbidding it's population to flee.

Based on your link:
1) I agree that the 2-28 incident was deplorable, though I do not see that ten million were murdered then.
2) I do agree with your assesment that Chiang's actions in Nanking/Nanjing were cowardly and lethal. Though Chiang did not do the murdering and raping. The Japanese did.

The book I got the 10 million figure from is "Death by Government" by R.J. Rummel
Interesting read. Here's one of his tallies:

[www.compellingtru ...


What I got out of that list is that Asia sucks.
 
2014-04-29 08:27:30 AM
Or you know...Christianity can stop preying on the poor and uneducated around the world...
 
2014-04-29 08:29:05 AM
The sad part is, they were likely the most sound buildings in the country.
 
2014-04-29 08:33:31 AM

Nemo's Brother: But the PC media dare not bring up on the war on Christianity and Judaism in the Middle East and northern Africa.


NPR covers it. I doubt very much that they're the only ones.
 
2014-04-29 08:58:21 AM

weltallica: [persephonemagazine.com image 590x388]

This just became a whole new thing.


I like to imagine how many West Wing references there were on Fark years ago. That would have been fun. It's nice to see some still pop up from time to time. I'm guessing it's not easy to get the pic you want sometimes considering much of the show was on before bandwidth became more ubiquitous.

i58.photobucket.com
 
2014-04-29 09:10:59 AM

anuran: Hitler was a Catholic


Umm, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler , it's much more complicated than that.
 
2014-04-29 09:24:01 AM

InterruptingQuirk: Umm, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler , it's much more complicated than that.


Just like other dictators, he attempted first to control religion and then replace it with a cult of the personality. It's still a religion, just one centred around a living person.
 
2014-04-29 09:49:32 AM

drxym: Just like other dictators, he attempted first to control religion and then replace it with a cult of the personality. It's still a religion, just one centred around a living person.


Agreed.  The "atheist" leaders that routinely get blamed are nothing of the kind.  They just have their own religions.  Marxism is certainly a religion--a core set of beliefs taken on faith, any attempt to debate them is treated as blasphemy.
 
2014-04-29 09:49:43 AM

Lionel Mandrake: Tearing dpwn churches = persecution/oppression

Having to include contraception in health insurance plans =/= persecution/oppression

Now, STFU whiny American Christians


It starts with including contraception.  It ends with tearing down churches.

Seriously, read the comments here.  This a farking liberal's wet dream for some of you.
 
2014-04-29 10:41:24 AM

impaler: Officials rejected those accusations, alleging the church had violated building codes.

In China?


Unlikely tag:  http://www.zmescience.com/other/great-pics/shorties-china-building-fa l ls-over-like-a-brick/#!GmfTF
 
2014-04-29 11:02:46 AM

SpikesCafe: impaler: Officials rejected those accusations, alleging the church had violated building codes.

In China?

Unlikely tag:  http://www.zmescience.com/other/great-pics/shorties-china-building-fa l ls-over-like-a-brick/#!GmfTF


It's okay to be impressed that building fell over in one piece though, right?
 
2014-04-29 11:08:20 AM

InterruptingQuirk: anuran: Hitler was a Catholic

Umm, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler , it's much more complicated than that.


There were many Catholic Nazis, but the Nazis did not like the Catholics. Not only did it have the not-invented-here problem (compared to Lutheranism, for example) and the fact that Xianity as a whole is descended from Judaism, but Catholics had ties to the Papacy, which was politically questionable at least*.

Nazism itself was spawned from the the Theosophist/New Age movement and integrated a lot of northern European native beliefs (which, oddly enough, are an integration of Abrahamic and Slavic myth, both groups being verboten to the Nazi Party). Hence their obsession with the occult - it was a direct outgrowth of the inherent New Agism.

As to Hitler and many upper-tier Nazis, their personal beliefs were ... odd and don't fall into any mainstream category. The closest thing that could be said is that they were flexible agnostics, and even that's inaccurate.

*I don't know if the Nazis knew what Pope Pius XII was doing to help Jews and other victims of the holocaust, but they did know that he was an outspoken critic of Nazis and race-based politics. Most of the evidence that he was active against the holocaust has only come out in the last ten years, after all.
/Footnote, then slashies
 
2014-04-29 11:24:54 AM
I was going to make a joke about "China in a bull shop," but my heart isn't into it.
 
2014-04-29 01:19:22 PM

meat0918: The Chinese have more to dislike about Christianity than most, considering the wholesale slaughter that occurred there during that Taiping Rebellion, although Mao did cite that rebellion as inspiration.

So in a weird roundabout way, Jesus is responsible for Chinese Communism.


God states that anyone in a position of authority was put there by Him. I assume that includes Mao as well.
 
2014-04-29 01:25:25 PM

Kurmudgeon: Some Coke Drinking Guy: See Christians, that is what persecution looks like.

See Militant Atheists, imagine what the religious right will do and say once you try imposing rules like that here.
You will justify ever bit of fear mongering they ever said, then the fun will begin.


GungFu: Weaver95: InterruptingQuirk: Now that's what I call persecution!

yup, came here to say something similar.  every time one of the fundies says they're oppressed in the US, I want to biatch slap 'em upside the head with this article.  No, dummy - THIS is what oppression looks like!  now STFU and get on a plane to china!


Persecution my arse.

It's what I call a good start.

Christianity in Asian countries is nothing more than eating and liking McDonald's.


And this is what Atheists, the better, more understanding group, looks like.
 
2014-04-29 01:31:45 PM

Lee451: meat0918: The Chinese have more to dislike about Christianity than most, considering the wholesale slaughter that occurred there during that Taiping Rebellion, although Mao did cite that rebellion as inspiration.

So in a weird roundabout way, Jesus is responsible for Chinese Communism.

God states that anyone in a position of authority was put there by Him. I assume that includes Mao as well.


Romans 13:1-7

1Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.

2Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.

3For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:

4For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.

5Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.

6For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing.

7Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.
 
2014-04-29 02:00:40 PM

meat0918: The Chinese have more to dislike about Christianity than most, considering the wholesale slaughter that occurred there during that Taiping Rebellion, although Mao did cite that rebellion as inspiration.

So in a weird roundabout way, Jesus is responsible for Chinese Communism.


.......or more accurately a guy who claimed to be the younger brother of Jesus.
Most Christians would have had a problem with him.

.
 
2014-04-29 06:02:05 PM

Rurouni: Or you know...Christianity can stop preying on the poor and uneducated around the world...


Who else would even give them the time of day?
 
2014-04-29 09:34:21 PM

anuran: Kevin72: What you are saying about the 1800s is true. But Dr. Sun Yat-Sen, founder of the Republic of China in 1912, and his daughters, were Christian. And that daughter AKA Madame Chiang Kai-Shek had a big influence on the Christianity of the Second leader of the Republic of China, Chiang Kai Shek. To this day, the Republic of China on Taiwan has incredible freedom of religion, including Taoism Confusianism all types of Buddhism and about 9% Christianity.

Chiang Kai-Shek? You're bringing him and his wife up as Chinese heroes? They were as venal and corrupt as they come.


Did I call him a hero??????? Or did I call him a Christian?????? I am lionizing the current 30 years of the Republic of China on Taiwan vs. what the communists have done.
 
2014-04-30 02:12:14 AM

Loren: drxym: Just like other dictators, he attempted first to control religion and then replace it with a cult of the personality. It's still a religion, just one centred around a living person.

Agreed.  The "atheist" leaders that routinely get blamed are nothing of the kind.  They just have their own religions.  Marxism is certainly a religion--a core set of beliefs taken on faith, any attempt to debate them is treated as blasphemy.


Life stance, maybe.  Religion, no.
 
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