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2014-04-28 02:04:24 PM
5 votes:

nocturnal001: and people keep yelling at me to read the Wheel of Time.



These people are not your friends.
2014-04-28 03:27:12 PM
3 votes:
You're all going to be pissed off at the end.

Jon Snow marries Daenerys Targaryen. The Others show up and kill everyone.

/It'll be called the White Wedding.
2014-04-28 01:11:17 PM
3 votes:
Indeed. The gf keeps badgering me about reading the series, but all I can think of is Robert Jordan. Finish it and I'll read it.
2014-04-28 08:41:54 PM
2 votes:

InmanRoshi: spamdog: One question I have is how much you can write about dragons burning things before you're sick of it? How many synonyms for "cold" is the next book going to need?

You're talking about an author who writes 10 meandering pages detailing what a character has for breakfast and spends multiple books with a POV character aimlessly wandering around in a circle.    He doesn't give a fark.


Hey it's that guy! Good thing you're here to shiat on everything, this discussion was way to civil and entertaining. We needed some dishonest hyperbole and poutrage to round this puppy into shape. You're doing the gods work, GoT troll. The gods work.

/we get it, you don't like fantasy, or Martin, or anything but whatever niche genre hipster shiat you're into, feel free to gtfo and go discuss that with someone else
2014-04-28 02:19:09 PM
2 votes:

Shostie: It started as a trilogy and he's working on book six of allegedly seven. I'm reading through the series for the third time and I really don't see any way he can wrap this up in a timely fashion unless he cuts forward 10 years and spends the remaining book as an epilogue.


Ergo the worry. Keep in mind, people aren't just worried the writer will die before its over. They are worried the reader will!
2014-04-28 02:12:10 PM
2 votes:
I think when it comes to the books, there really are two kinds of readers:

1. Those who HAVE TO KNOW HOW IT ENDS. These are the ones most vocal about GRRM dicking around and not writing when HE SHOULD BE WRITING WHY ISN'T HE WRITING I HAVE TO KNOW HOW TYRION TURNS OUT!!!

2. Those who are just along for the ride. This is me. I honestly don't give a f*ck about how it's going to end. I love the world he created and the more time I spend in it following his characters around while they travel, eat and live, the happier I am.
2014-04-28 02:07:20 PM
2 votes:

error 303: How is Malazan Tale of the Fallen? It's been on my radar for awhile but I've never got around to it...


The Malazan series is easily my favorite piece of literature.  Martin's world building and politicking with Glen Cook's characterizations and dialog.  The first book is the worst book, which makes it hard to start, but it's amazing.
2014-04-28 01:34:53 PM
2 votes:
So... He's not my biatch but he's HBO's biatch?
KIA
2014-04-29 06:03:17 AM
1 votes:
Book 6 will be released with the beginning of Season 5 - for sales and marketing.  That means April, 2015

Season 6 will be released April, 2016

The first half of Book 7 (which needs to be split - for marketing!) will be released with Season 7 in April 2017.

The second half of Book 7 will be released with the feature-length movie finale in Summer, 2018 - for marketing!
2014-04-29 04:37:25 AM
1 votes:

GrendelMk1: There's no such thing. If the readers need a "breather", it's because they're idiots.


It's called the scene/sequel format, and pretty much every writer uses whether they realize it or not (Dean Koontz deliberately tried to avoid it with his thriller  Intensity, the only successful aversion I can think of). You need the occasional slower scene to contrast with the faster paced stuff - if you just have exciting scenes and no slower scenes the pacing feels off and after a while the exciting scenes stop being exciting and start being obnoxious.

It's something taught in every Creative Writing 101 course in the country. Saying there's "no such thing" makes me suspect you don't know a lot about writing.
2014-04-28 09:30:19 PM
1 votes:
The dragons are coming I swear
And I've just ordered two...no three pizzas...South Park was dead on about this guy
2014-04-28 08:48:42 PM
1 votes:

Semper IvXx: InmanRoshi: spamdog: One question I have is how much you can write about dragons burning things before you're sick of it? How many synonyms for "cold" is the next book going to need?

You're talking about an author who writes 10 meandering pages detailing what a character has for breakfast and spends multiple books with a POV character aimlessly wandering around in a circle.    He doesn't give a fark.

Hey it's that guy! Good thing you're here to shiat on everything, this discussion was way to civil and entertaining. We needed some dishonest hyperbole and poutrage to round this puppy into shape. You're doing the gods work, GoT troll. The gods work.

/we get it, you don't like fantasy, or Martin, or anything but whatever niche genre hipster shiat you're into, feel free to gtfo and go discuss that with someone else


Seconded.

I've loved reading every word of every one of the books and can't wait for the next one to come out.

I guess as always, haters gonna hate.

/TV show is fantastic too
2014-04-28 05:55:43 PM
1 votes:

Lando Lincoln: Klivian: By the time Stannis marches on Winterfell, pretty safe to say winter is in full swing.

There's no farking way in hell am I going to live in a region that can get 60 goddamn feet of snow at a stretch and winter can last for years on end. Not even the hardiest of Icelandians would put up with that shiat.


Yeah, there's a term for lands that have 10-year-winters, and that term is "uninhabitable". Not sure why any human gives a shiat about keeping the northern lands in Westeros.
2014-04-28 05:31:02 PM
1 votes:

Tricky Chicken: Superjew: Tricky Chicken: All you need to do is read the 5th book.  It mentions every single thing that happens in all the previous books and will waste much much less of your time.

Guess how I can tell you don't really like the act of reading all that much.

I love reading. I just don't love reading the same conversation over and over, or constant flashbacks so detailed, that you can skip whold books and not miss anything.

If you were to watch the DVDs like the books, you would have to watch them in this order
Disc 1
Disc 2
Half of Disc 1
Disc 3
Disc2
Disc 4
Disc 1
Disc 3
Disc 5
Disc 2
Disc 4
Half of disc 6
Disc 3
Disc 5
The rest of disc 6
Disc 4
Disc 3
Disc 7


Yes, because TV and film never employ flashbacks and are linear only...
2014-04-28 04:34:18 PM
1 votes:

akula: SkittlesAreYum: Decillion: You didn't hear it from me, but in select literary circles the word is that book 6 is done and being edited. The release delay and 'panic hype' is simply to maximize the profit on the book and show.

Wait, he has an editor? You could have fooled me after the last two books. Almost two thousand pages of basically nothing happening save for a handful of events that were delayed for 90 chapters for no reason or were introduced right at the end. I'm not saying I want them to be a snappy read a la Hunger Games, but damn.

As much as people seem to love these books and the story, I find it every bit as tedious as the middle books of the Wheel of Time series, just sexed up and with less likable characters. The story just doesn't seem to be actually GOING anywhere... sure, Daenerys seems to be making her push but I can't bring myself to care. With the way the big Houses have treated others (not just the other Houses but the common folk), I'm not sure that the White Walkers shouldn't just kill everybody and be done with it.


There's a direct corrolation between people's love of the books and the amount of time they spent on it.
Some folks can't admit that after Storm of Swords, GRRM ran out of gas.
If the quality of the last 2 books are any indication, I have no problem with HBO picking up the story and finishing it up.
2014-04-28 03:27:16 PM
1 votes:

Lando Lincoln: Hey, wait a minute. Jon Snow wants to go capture or kill the Night's Watch defectors because he doesn't want them to blab to Mance Rayder about how few men are now guarding the Wall. But Mance was a member of the Night's Watch, so...how long ago did Mance leave the Night's Watch anyway? Did the Night's Watch take a serious dip in manpower since Mance left? Mance's raiders have killed other members of the Night's Watch recently, so why are we to assume that none of those members didn't already blab the information to Mance?


Over 300 rangers went out and got slaughtered at Fist of the First Men and/or at the mutiny at Craster's Keep

Also, Jon lied and convinced Mance that Castle Black had over 1000 fighters.  In reality it barely has over 100 men and most of those aren't rangers.  Basically its an small force of mostly cooks, scribes and new recruits. That's why they have to make sure the mutineers can't blab about how basically every seasoned fighter at castle black is already dead
2014-04-28 03:03:18 PM
1 votes:

Lando Lincoln: recoil47: I found myself a bit frustrated that the White Walker story hasn't moved any farther in the books than it did.

It's a race to see who can move slower towards Westeros: White Walkers or Daenerys Targaryen.

"The White Walkers are moving strong! They are out of the box first in the first scene of the series! But wait! They've decided to do nothing for the rest of the season! This gives Daenerys plenty of time to catch up! But no! She decides to go in the opposite direction from Westeros! It's like neither of them want anything to do with Westeros after all!"


Yeah, I'm loving it but that's my biggest frustration with GoT. It's a swords and sorcery setting and there's a metric shiat-ton of swords (yay!) but very little sorcery (boo!). And by sorcery I just mean magic/fantastic stuff in general. There's a looooot of politics and scheming, but I'd really like to see more monsters and crazy magic shiat.

Mostly because they've teased so much about it. They show the White Walkers early in the show, and they've given you a glimpse or two here and there... but really they haven't done shiat. They're kind of a non-issue. The show woudn't be changed any if they were left out. So they're kind of a fantasy cock-tease. Dragons ahve been a little more involved... but still not a lot going on there either.
2014-04-28 02:55:11 PM
1 votes:
**************. Spoilers ***************

Who is Coldhands in all this mess?  Maybe this Night King is actually a Night Queen, it's hard to tell the gender of a white walker.  Coldhands calls Sam brother and wears Nights Watch blacks and is in fact dead but still walks around and has his own will.  Speculation...

************** End spoilers ***************
2014-04-28 02:33:22 PM
1 votes:

recoil47: I found myself a bit frustrated that the White Walker story hasn't moved any farther in the books than it did.


It's a race to see who can move slower towards Westeros: White Walkers or Daenerys Targaryen.

"The White Walkers are moving strong! They are out of the box first in the first scene of the series! But wait! They've decided to do nothing for the rest of the season! This gives Daenerys plenty of time to catch up! But no! She decides to go in the opposite direction from Westeros! It's like neither of them want anything to do with Westeros after all!"
2014-04-28 02:18:16 PM
1 votes:

drewsclues: We went from knowing almost nothing, to knowing a little, if the identity is true. The Others have motivation and are organized. That's the important part. Whether or not that's meaningful or random doesn't really matter.


How can "whether its meaningful" not matter? That's literally the definition of meaningful.
2014-04-28 02:17:51 PM
1 votes:

bborchar: Lando Lincoln: Hey, wait a minute. Jon Snow wants to go capture or kill the Night's Watch defectors because he doesn't want them to blab to Mance Rayder about how few men are now guarding the Wall. But Mance was a member of the Night's Watch, so...how long ago did Mance leave the Night's Watch anyway? Did the Night's Watch take a serious dip in manpower since Mance left? Mance's raiders have killed other members of the Night's Watch recently, so why are we to assume that none of those members didn't already blab the information to Mance?

Well, I assume that the people who escaped probably said "We haven't seen Mance".  Hence the "hey, we should hurry up and do this".

If you want to be nitpicky, I would ask why the mutineers are keeping Ghost locked up instead of just killing him- but if it means that we get major carnage when Ghost gets out, I don't even mind that.


How did they even catch Ghost in the first goddamn place?

"You there! Go catch that giant direwolf and stick him in a cage for no real reason!"
"Yeah, you can go fark yourself sideways, buddy."
2014-04-28 02:10:29 PM
1 votes:

Lando Lincoln: Hey, wait a minute. Jon Snow wants to go capture or kill the Night's Watch defectors because he doesn't want them to blab to Mance Rayder about how few men are now guarding the Wall. But Mance was a member of the Night's Watch, so...how long ago did Mance leave the Night's Watch anyway? Did the Night's Watch take a serious dip in manpower since Mance left? Mance's raiders have killed other members of the Night's Watch recently, so why are we to assume that none of those members didn't already blab the information to Mance?


Um... Well... Shut up, that's why.
2014-04-28 02:09:36 PM
1 votes:

bborchar: HBO also has to worry about keep all of their actors under contract, which would be extremely difficult to do if the show had to go on hiatus for any reason.


Not to mention that by that point Bran and Arya will be 25 years old.
2014-04-28 02:01:36 PM
1 votes:

error 303: nocturnal001: Is anyone else noticing that the show is actually starting to diverge from the books in important ways?

I could use a re-read of the book for a refresher but I'm still trying to wrap up the MalazanTale of the Fallen series, and people keep yelling at me to read the Wheel of Time.

How is Malazan Tale of the Fallen? It's been on my radar for awhile but I've never got around to it...

I enjoyed the first and second Wheel of Time books, but by about book 5 they were so utterly frustrating and boring I just couldn't imagine reading the last four or eight or twenty or however many books that series went...



I like the series a lot. Very different than many other fantasy worlds (no dwarves or elves etc. ) and walks a nice path between realism and the fantastical. The author drops you right into the story line so it takes a bit to get adjusted, but after that it's all good. After the first couple books the major story arch is revealed with each booking having it's own fleshed out plot that maps to it. Plus it is a 10 book series that are all written so no fear of waiting years to find out what happens.
2014-04-28 02:01:26 PM
1 votes:

DamnYankees: mekkab: /And HBO seems to be telling their own story, now...  and I'm OK with that.

I don't really see how that's true. What in this episode is contradictory to the books in any meaningful way? AFAIK, the last scene isn't so much a different story from the books, as it just shows us a scene which isn't in the books.


Jon Snow going to capture or kill the defectors was not in the books. It did not go down that way.
2014-04-28 01:58:06 PM
1 votes:

error 303: nocturnal001: Is anyone else noticing that the show is actually starting to diverge from the books in important ways?

I could use a re-read of the book for a refresher but I'm still trying to wrap up the MalazanTale of the Fallen series, and people keep yelling at me to read the Wheel of Time.

How is Malazan Tale of the Fallen? It's been on my radar for awhile but I've never got around to it...

I enjoyed the first and second Wheel of Time books, but by about book 5 they were so utterly frustrating and boring I just couldn't imagine reading the last four or eight or twenty or however many books that series went...


WoT seems to get off track, but by the end of the series you'll go, "OOOOOOH" and realize that it was necessary.  It's not graceful, but it's necessary.
2014-04-28 01:49:31 PM
1 votes:

rjakobi: So in layman's terms, Game of Thrones is succumbing to Duke Nukem Syndrome?


I'm PRETTY sure that's still 'geek terms'
2014-04-28 01:48:19 PM
1 votes:
Except the article doesn't say that.
2014-04-28 01:42:57 PM
1 votes:
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Don't worry! They're coming! Not just two pizzas, there's, there's gonna be five! And they're gonna be huge! You won't believe it!
2014-04-28 01:27:07 PM
1 votes:
I'd guess the sixth book will be out by the end of the year -- it'll be a huge seller whenever it's released, but I can see the powers that be holding it until the holiday season for better sales.

No way that Martin lets the series overtake the books unless he's six feet under.
2014-04-28 01:27:03 PM
1 votes:
I wish HBO's makeup artists/costume designers came up with something better than Ice Darth Maul for the Night's King.
2014-04-28 01:25:18 PM
1 votes:

Jews for Hitler: I missed the last two episodes. Has Dumbledore been killed off yet?


Yep. He was strangled by Gandolf.

Oops! Spoilers!
2014-04-28 01:13:35 PM
1 votes:
the way he's going, he's going to die before he finishes anyway
2014-04-28 12:58:07 PM
1 votes:

DamnYankees: He's farked. Unless he's been writing the last 2 simultaneously, there's no way he'll be done by 2018, which is when the show is slated to finish.


It's well known that Martin had to tell HBO and the showrunners where the show was going and how it would end.  The show could very well complete before the books come out as they will probably finish off of his outline.
2014-04-28 12:45:24 PM
1 votes:
They're planning to slowly transition into the Wheel of Time series over the next two seasons.
 
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