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(ESPN)   If Teddy Bridgewater looks like he's giggling as he falls out of the first round there's a good reason (besides not having to play for Cleveland)   (espn.go.com ) divider line
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2014-04-28 01:08:17 PM  
It's as if he knew he'd be exposed as weak-armed QB with short routes only in his future after he spent 3 years playing schedules that wouldn't prepare a talented enough a player for a summer camp flag football game. I'm sure the __________s will be glad they have him keeping one of those benches from flying off next season.
 
2014-04-28 01:15:27 PM  
Will he be giggling as much as the insurance agent that sold him the policy and already collected the premium and fat commission on a policy that has basically zero chance of actually paying out? Because I imagine that's a lot of giggling right there.
 
2014-04-28 01:17:25 PM  
Does the flu count as an illness or does it have to be something like cancer?
 
2014-04-28 01:17:41 PM  
Cleveland is the best place any of team picking early that a QB could possibly wish for.   They actually have a good roster and offensive line, rapid fan base, and owner willing to invest in the team and stadium.

All they're missing is the QB, and if that QB doesn't think he won't make a difference, then he's not the guy anyway.
 
2014-04-28 01:19:24 PM  

DevilsHorns J: Will he be giggling as much as the insurance agent that sold him the policy and already collected the premium and fat commission on a policy that has basically zero chance of actually paying out? Because I imagine that's a lot of giggling right there.


If so he should be getting a fat multi-year contract, so I think he'll be fine.

This is the most financially prepared I've ever seen any athlete get for going pro.
 
2014-04-28 01:20:17 PM  
It is not unusual for athletes to insure themselves against lost income due to injury. This just a minor extension to that.
 
2014-04-28 01:33:21 PM  
Woohoo! 10 days til the draft!
 
2014-04-28 01:42:44 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: Woohoo! 10 days til the draft!


I kind of hate the fact I've been pulled into this level of the NFL's bowels, but I have.
 
2014-04-28 01:43:13 PM  
I expected TFA to have something to do with weed.
 
2014-04-28 01:46:05 PM  

Odd Bird: Ow! That was my feelings!: Woohoo! 10 days til the draft!

I kind of hate the fact I've been pulled into this level of the NFL's bowels, but I have.


cbssports.com
 
2014-04-28 01:46:11 PM  
So I guess Subby missed that part about having to show injury or illness. Despite it being repeated 200 times in the article.

If he isn't hurt he isn't going to be laughing when he falls out of the first round. He isn't insured against never being that good.
 
2014-04-28 01:47:56 PM  

T.rex: Cleveland is the best place any of team picking early that a QB could possibly wish for.   They actually have a good roster and offensive line, rapid fan base, and owner willing to invest in the team and stadium.

All they're missing is the QB, and if that QB doesn't think he won't make a difference, then he's not the guy anyway.


In other words...

You don't just need a guy who can be the guy, you need a guy who thinks he can be the guy. If he doesn't think he can be the guy, then he can't be the guy, even if he could be the guy. So, he's not the guy. Unless he thinks he can be.
 
2014-04-28 01:51:58 PM  

Semper IvXx: So I guess Subby missed that part about having to show injury or illness. Despite it being repeated 200 times in the article.

If he isn't hurt he isn't going to be laughing when he falls out of the first round. He isn't insured against never being that good.


That's only for the new $5M, the other $15M is based on his draft position regardless of injury based on how I read it.

/subby
//IANAL or agent or insurance knowing guy
 
2014-04-28 01:54:44 PM  
Don't get too giggly, or the Browns will pick Watkins at 4, a lineman at 26, and you with their 2nd rounder. Then how terrible will it be, playing around all that talent, knowing Cleveland will fark it up anyway?
 
2014-04-28 02:06:49 PM  

Odd Bird: I kind of hate the fact I've been pulled into this level of the NFL's bowels, but I have.



Nope.  Not buying any of what ESPN is selling.  there's always one pick, or one trade, that renders the entirety of the mocks null and void.  not even giving in to the blathering on about 'pad level', 'motor', "immeasurables', 'played down to level of competition', and so on.  it is all meaningless.

jay mohr friday did about half of Friday's show playing Hoge arguing wtih some other dude, where Hoge was arguing that while Clowney was an outstanding pass rusher, he was an "atrocious" football player, based upon pad level and "fundamentals".

yeah, jimmy page is an outstanding soloist and riff writer, but a terrible guitar player.  ok.
 
2014-04-28 02:23:53 PM  

Cybernetic: T.rex: Cleveland is the best place any of team picking early that a QB could possibly wish for.   They actually have a good roster and offensive line, rapid fan base, and owner willing to invest in the team and stadium.

All they're missing is the QB, and if that QB doesn't think he won't make a difference, then he's not the guy anyway.

In other words...

You don't just need a guy who can be the guy, you need a guy who thinks he can be the guy. If he doesn't think he can be the guy, then he can't be the guy, even if he could be the guy. So, he's not the guy. Unless he thinks he can be.


If he doesn't think he can, he can't.   its a self full-filling prophecy.

Its like getting out of bed and figuring you're going to have a bad day... and then, lo and behold, you do... No surprise.  One's negative thought processes dictates the events that follow.

Thats why i sorta like Johnny Football.  He'll be gung-ho, expecting success, whereever he ends up.
 
2014-04-28 02:25:26 PM  

Representative of the unwashed masses: Semper IvXx: So I guess Subby missed that part about having to show injury or illness. Despite it being repeated 200 times in the article.

If he isn't hurt he isn't going to be laughing when he falls out of the first round. He isn't insured against never being that good.

That's only for the new $5M, the other $15M is based on his draft position regardless of injury based on how I read it.

/subby
//IANAL or agent or insurance knowing guy


If Teddy Bridgewater doesn't get picked in the first round of next month's NFL draft and can prove he has an injury or illness, he will collect a tax-free $5 million.
Sources tell ESPN.com that after the quarterback completed his junior season at Louisville, he added $5 million on top of his already purchased $10 million total disability injury policy and supplemented it with $5 million in loss-of-value insurance.
Because loss-of-value insurance is connected to an injury policy, the only way an athlete can collect from falling in the draft is if it's as a result of getting hurt or being ill."

Apparently you're not a guy who reads the first three paragraphs of your submissions either. But at least your misleading headline came from an honest misunderstanding as opposed to a deliberate deception to get clicks, so you're ok by me.

/he got a total disability policy for 10 mil, you only collect those if you can never play again...he's not seeing any of that money no matter where he goes in the draft barring some catastrophic injury between now and then
//he added a 5 mil loss of value policy, which would be collected if and only if he losses value due to injury or illness, not if he loses value by never really being that good...so he isn't collecting that one either, unless he's hurt and we don't know about it
 
2014-04-28 02:30:15 PM  

Semper IvXx: But at least your misleading headline came from an honest misunderstanding as opposed to a deliberate deception to get clicks, so you're ok by me.


Welcome to Fark?
 
2014-04-28 02:37:29 PM  
For what it's worth, Bridgewater has not publicly revealed that he has any injury or illness. His drop mostly has been attributed to a lackluster pro day on March 17.

So he will get $0.  Except a rookie contract that will pay more than most us will make in our lifetimes.

/Still think he is no less a gamble than Johnny Football, who keeps moving up the draft board.
 
2014-04-28 02:51:00 PM  
Great value if he drops to the second round.
 
2014-04-28 03:08:13 PM  

AliceBToklasLives: For what it's worth, Bridgewater has not publicly revealed that he has any injury or illness. His drop mostly has been attributed to a lackluster pro day on March 17.

So he will get $0.  Except a rookie contract that will pay more than most us will make in our lifetimes.

/Still think he is no less a gamble than Johnny Football, who keeps moving up the draft board.


Nearly every quarterback taken in the first round is a gamble.  Peyton Manning and Andrew Luck only come around once in a decade.  This year is no different.  I see a lot of guys who might have what it takes to be successful in the NFL, but no one stands out as the guy you can't go wrong with. If I was picking a guy this year, I'd take Bortles first.  Probably.
 
2014-04-28 03:10:00 PM  

T.rex: Cleveland is the best place any of team picking early that a QB could possibly wish for.   They actually have a good roster and offensive line, rapid fan base, and owner willing to invest in the team and stadium.

All they're missing is the QB, and if that QB doesn't think he won't make a difference, then he's not the guy anyway.


.....
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BAAAHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
 
2014-04-28 03:10:45 PM  

Devo: Great value if he drops to the second round.


Nope. The Broncos take him at 31, if still available.
 
2014-04-28 03:12:57 PM  
I don't understand the way this article was written though, to even mention this if he can't collect unless he is injured.  The only reason to do this article is if he could collect based on that.
 
2014-04-28 03:26:42 PM  

EyeballKid: It's as if he knew he'd be exposed as weak-armed QB with short routes only in his future after he spent 3 years playing schedules that wouldn't prepare a talented enough a player for a summer camp flag football game. I'm sure the __________s will be glad they have him keeping one of those benches from flying off next season.


LOL.  Yes, he was really exposed against good competition.

Florida (2012): 20-32 62.5% 266 yards 2 TD 1 Int.
UCF: 29-38 76.3% 341 yards 2 TD 0 Int.
Miami: 35-45 77.8%  447 yards 3 TD 0 Int.
 
2014-04-28 03:29:24 PM  
Wouldn't he rather be healthy and drafted higher? I still haven't heard even a good guess as to who the Packers will take. Every potential pick seems to be completely dependent on whether one of 10+ players are available.
 
2014-04-28 03:29:56 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: Devo: Great value if he drops to the second round.

Nope. The Broncos take him at 31, if still available.


That would be a smart move on their part. Guy can read coverages, make the quick throw, it's just the deep ball that gives him some issue. For a comparative in the NFL, see Peyton Manning (and learning under him for a year or two would be great for the kid).
 
2014-04-28 03:31:11 PM  
Where did he get the money to pay for those policies?
 
2014-04-28 03:46:16 PM  

EyeballKid: It's as if he knew he'd be exposed as weak-armed QB with short routes only in his future after he spent 3 years playing schedules that wouldn't prepare a talented enough a player for a summer camp flag football game. I'm sure the __________s will be glad they have him keeping one of those benches from flying off next season.


And yet, he might be the best QB in the draft this year.  The other options are the panicky dipshiat, Weeden Jr, and Brotles.  This is a bad year to need a QB.
 
2014-04-28 03:52:01 PM  

abhorrent1: Where did he get the money to pay for those policies?



i don't know this but just speculating...

Sources tell ESPN.com that after the quarterback completed his junior season at Louisville, he added $5 million on top of his already purchased $10 million total disability injury policy and supplemented it with $5 million in loss-of-value insurance.


guessing that once he declared and signed with an agent, and thus stuck a fork in his college eligibility, he got fronted the $$$ by his agent.
 
2014-04-28 04:03:25 PM  

boyofd: EyeballKid: It's as if he knew he'd be exposed as weak-armed QB with short routes only in his future after he spent 3 years playing schedules that wouldn't prepare a talented enough a player for a summer camp flag football game. I'm sure the __________s will be glad they have him keeping one of those benches from flying off next season.

LOL.  Yes, he was really exposed against good competition.

Florida (2012): 20-32 62.5% 266 yards 2 TD 1 Int.
UCF: 29-38 76.3% 341 yards 2 TD 0 Int.
Miami: 35-45 77.8%  447 yards 3 TD 0 Int.


So, he's only good against teams from Florida? And, are you calling Florida and Miami "good" teams based on the 80s? Or merchandise sales?
 
2014-04-28 04:15:56 PM  

EyeballKid: boyofd: EyeballKid: It's as if he knew he'd be exposed as weak-armed QB with short routes only in his future after he spent 3 years playing schedules that wouldn't prepare a talented enough a player for a summer camp flag football game. I'm sure the __________s will be glad they have him keeping one of those benches from flying off next season.

LOL.  Yes, he was really exposed against good competition.

Florida (2012): 20-32 62.5% 266 yards 2 TD 1 Int.
UCF: 29-38 76.3% 341 yards 2 TD 0 Int.
Miami: 35-45 77.8%  447 yards 3 TD 0 Int.

So, he's only good against teams from Florida? And, are you calling Florida and Miami "good" teams based on the 80s? Or merchandise sales?


Florida was legitimately good in 2012.  They went 12-2 (with one of those losses being to Louisville) and 7-1 in SEC play.  They wound up in the Sugar Bowl and some (mostly Florida homers, but I digress) thought they deserved a shot at the title before getting the shiat kicked out of them by Louisville.  UCF is borderline, since they were top 25 and won a BCS bowl, but their offense carried their mediocre defense so that's probably not the best team to use in this type of discussion.  Putting up that kind of stat line against Miami would have looked a lot more impressive 30 years ago.
 
2014-04-28 04:26:41 PM  

EyeballKid: boyofd: EyeballKid: It's as if he knew he'd be exposed as weak-armed QB with short routes only in his future after he spent 3 years playing schedules that wouldn't prepare a talented enough a player for a summer camp flag football game. I'm sure the __________s will be glad they have him keeping one of those benches from flying off next season.

LOL.  Yes, he was really exposed against good competition.

Florida (2012): 20-32 62.5% 266 yards 2 TD 1 Int.
UCF: 29-38 76.3% 341 yards 2 TD 0 Int.
Miami: 35-45 77.8%  447 yards 3 TD 0 Int.

So, he's only good against teams from Florida? And, are you calling Florida and Miami "good" teams based on the 80s? Or merchandise sales?


What IIortcM said, at least with respect to Florida.  They went 7-1 in the SEC largely based upon their defense, and yet Bridgewater put up several season highs against their defense.  Stats would have been even worse had UofL not cruised and ran the ball so much after building a 33-10 lead.

Second, I'm not going to beat the drum for Miami too long, but casually dismissing stats against 9-3 teams from major conferences so easily sounds a little bit like special pleading.  Alabama doesn't play LSU and Auburn 12 times a season, you know.
 
2014-04-28 04:29:42 PM  

EyeballKid: boyofd: EyeballKid: It's as if he knew he'd be exposed as weak-armed QB with short routes only in his future after he spent 3 years playing schedules that wouldn't prepare a talented enough a player for a summer camp flag football game. I'm sure the __________s will be glad they have him keeping one of those benches from flying off next season.

LOL.  Yes, he was really exposed against good competition.

Florida (2012): 20-32 62.5% 266 yards 2 TD 1 Int.
UCF: 29-38 76.3% 341 yards 2 TD 0 Int.
Miami: 35-45 77.8%  447 yards 3 TD 0 Int.

So, he's only good against teams from Florida? And, are you calling Florida and Miami "good" teams based on the 80s? Or merchandise sales?


Florida was terrible in the 80's and has won two championships in the last ten years.  Please, keep dazzling us with your brilliance and knowledge of college football.
 
2014-04-28 04:37:05 PM  
I wish my Bengals would take him.  They're in QB purgatory now.  Not good...
 
2014-04-28 04:51:30 PM  
1) Vince Young is trying out for the Factory of Sadness
and 2) I know it's already been asked but where in the heck did he come up with the money to pay for the policy if all college athletes are starving because they don't get enough money from the NCAA to cover their living expenses

I know he was probably fronted the money but when/who/where.

Did he have an NCAA sanctioned fundraising autograph session? Or did he have a fundraiser at a tattoo parlor?
 
2014-04-28 04:56:56 PM  
He is probably hoping to be drafted in the second round.   First round picks are stuck on their deal for 5 years, and later rounds only for four.   If he is a good player, he'll get paid big $$ sooner as a second round pick.
 
2014-04-28 04:56:58 PM  
Given the restrictions on rookie contracts these days, why *wouldn't* a player do this.

1. Go out and tank your pro-day,
2. If you don't go high, claim you had a pulled hammy or something
3. Profit!

An easy way to get paid like a first rounder, anyway.
 
2014-04-28 04:57:34 PM  

IanMoone: I know it's already been asked but where in the heck did he come up with the money to pay for the policy if all college athletes are starving because they don't get enough money from the NCAA to cover their living expenses

I know he was probably fronted the money but when/who/where.

Did he have an NCAA sanctioned fundraising autograph session? Or did he have a fundraiser at a tattoo parlor?


Once they graduate or declare for the draft, I don't think the NCAA can touch them. He probably got the money as an advance or loan from an agent.  Probably at loanshark interest rates, but whatever, football players are not well known for their financial savvy.
 
2014-04-28 05:03:34 PM  

Rhypskallion: He is probably hoping to be drafted in the second round.   First round picks are stuck on their deal for 5 years, and later rounds only for four.   If he is a good player, he'll get paid big $$ sooner as a second round pick.


Two seconds apart.

I think the rookie contract structure is going to get revisited the next time the CBA is up for discussion.  The consequence has been that young players are now at a premium as they're cheap no matter what, and the mid tier veteran players that were supposed to benefit from that are ending up as salary cap casualties.
 
2014-04-28 05:08:25 PM  
EyeballKid:  So, he's only good against teams from Florida? And, are you calling Florida and Miami "good" teams based on the 80s? Or merchandise sales?

Look, Bridgewater has yet to blow me away with his physical prowess, but trying to call him a bad quarterback is just reaching.  He was, by all accounts, a very good college quarterback.  Whether or not he's another Rex Grossman is another story entirely, but his track record actually bodes very well for him.

Also, Florida has actually been a very good football team for the past decade-plus.  UCF and Miami may not be LSU and Alabama, but they're not Portland State or Drexel either.
 
2014-04-28 05:08:58 PM  

IanMoone: I know it's already been asked but where in the heck did he come up with the money to pay for the policy if all college athletes are starving because they don't get enough money from the NCAA to cover their living expenses


That is a really stupid comment. Not all college athletes are broke and starving, yes some have parents that can help them out, but there is a very large chunk that are broke and don't have any money.

And as far as where he got the money from, his parents? Maybe they took out a loan?
 
2014-04-28 05:31:57 PM  

T.rex: Its like getting out of bed and figuring you're going to have a bad day... and then, lo and behold, you do... No surprise.  One's negative thought processes dictates the events that follow.


The sheer number of absurdistly overconfident British officers in early WWI pretty much shot that statement's horse out from under it.
 
2014-04-28 05:49:04 PM  

T.rex: Cybernetic: T.rex: Cleveland is the best place any of team picking early that a QB could possibly wish for.   They actually have a good roster and offensive line, rapid fan base, and owner willing to invest in the team and stadium.

All they're missing is the QB, and if that QB doesn't think he won't make a difference, then he's not the guy anyway.

In other words...

You don't just need a guy who can be the guy, you need a guy who thinks he can be the guy. If he doesn't think he can be the guy, then he can't be the guy, even if he could be the guy. So, he's not the guy. Unless he thinks he can be.

If he doesn't think he can, he can't.   its a self full-filling prophecy.

Its like getting out of bed and figuring you're going to have a bad day... and then, lo and behold, you do... No surprise.  One's negative thought processes dictates the events that follow.

Thats why i sorta like Johnny Football.  He'll be gung-ho, expecting success, whereever he ends up.


Can't just think... has to KNOW.  The possibility of "maybe I can be the guy" ain't going to cut it.  Either unmitigated success, or unmitigated disaster.  Anything in the middle dooms NFL QB's to 3rd string clip board holders.  And to be fair, even that would be an upgrade for Cleveland... but here is a chance to do something great for a change.
 
2014-04-28 07:28:03 PM  

karmaceutical: Can't just think... has to KNOW.


I think that's what makes me fearful of a guy like Manziel.

People think he knows he's good because he says/acts the part. That doesn't mean he's coming into the league as confident as someone like Andrew Luck, RGIII, or even Russell Wilson, who didn't really need to go out and brag but they showed they belonged.
 
2014-04-28 07:44:46 PM  

T.rex: Cleveland is the best place any of team picking early that a QB could possibly wish for.   They actually have a good roster and offensive line, rapid fan base, and owner willing to invest in the team and stadium.

All they're missing is the QB, and if that QB doesn't think he won't make a difference, then he's not the guy anyway.


9.5/10. Beautiful.
 
2014-04-28 07:52:24 PM  

feanorn: T.rex: Cleveland is the best place any of team picking early that a QB could possibly wish for.   They actually have a good roster and offensive line, rapid fan base, and owner willing to invest in the team and stadium.

All they're missing is the QB, and if that QB doesn't think he won't make a difference, then he's not the guy anyway.

9.5/10. Beautiful.


Cleveland sent FIVE players to the ProBowler last year
Cleveland has the best LT and best Center in the entire game
Cleveland packs the stadium, despite being terrible.
Owner spent 125 million in stadium improvements (for a stadium that is still relatively new)
 
2014-04-28 08:04:55 PM  

puffy999: karmaceutical: Can't just think... has to KNOW.

I think that's what makes me fearful of a guy like Manziel.

People think he knows he's good because he says/acts the part. That doesn't mean he's coming into the league as confident as someone like Andrew Luck, RGIII, or even Russell Wilson, who didn't really need to go out and brag but they showed they belonged.


Don't get me wrong... he is a first class alpha douche.  But.. he doesn't just want to prove he belongs.  He wants to make a mark.  He wants to create success, rather than be a part of it.  Cleveland has not had that kind of moxy in... forever.  It may just be the missing piece of the puzzle to light a fire in this offense.
 
2014-04-28 08:05:01 PM  
T.Rex - does the phrase Factory of Sadness mean anything to you? Because of all of the Sadness Factories, they are the Browniest.
 
2014-04-28 08:07:41 PM  

roc6783: T.Rex - does the phrase Factory of Sadness mean anything to you? Because of all of the Sadness Factories, they are the Browniest.


Yes.... Its a tired meme started by a Clevelander as an inside joke, but perpetuated by outsiders who d0n't know any better.  why?
 
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