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(Movoto)   Have you ever said to yourself, "There's no way those people could afford THAT apartment" when watching a TV show? Well, me neither, but here's vindication for you just in case you did   (movoto.com) divider line 85
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2014-04-28 09:44:27 PM  
4 votes:

chitownmike: shortymac: Riotboy: Mid_mo_mad_man: The Cosby show's townhouse always bugged me. How could they afford it? Neither adult seemed to be at thier practice

I remember back in the 80s watching The Cosby Show, whenever they showed them eating some chips or drinking a soda, it was always some made up generic crap. I remember thinking how ridiculous it was that a fairly wealthy family like that couldn't afford name brand snacks. To me that's more distracting than showing someone eating/drinking a name brand product.

/CoCo Dots

Its because the show would have to pay the food companies money for use of their logos.

All tv shows do this. They have just gotten better at the mock food labels.

it works exactly the opposite of the way you think it does


Cosby was also a major (read: expensive) spokesman for Jell-o at the time, so Kraft may well had a block-out in their contract with him that he couldn't be pictured with any other food product.

Cosby has always been an amazingly smart businessman.  Starting with I spy, he's owned a piece of everything he's done.  He realized that the record companies were screwing him on his comedy albums, so he started his own label, and put out all sorts of wild stuff no one else would touch.

While the food labels were fake, the art in the Huxtable living room was all high-quality repros of pieces Cosby actually owns. He did it so the artist got paid by NBC for rights reproductions.
2014-04-28 01:01:29 PM  
4 votes:
I still want to know why three surgeons/officers had to share a single tent on M*A*S*H* while Klinger got an entire tent to himself for his wardrobe.
2014-04-28 12:25:45 PM  
4 votes:
How about Penny living across the hall? Even a one-bedroom would be probably 2/3 the $1700 estimate, so $1100/mo on a waitress salary?
2014-04-28 03:56:55 PM  
3 votes:
Enough about that, I want to know how a bartender and psychology student can afford a $500k+ house on House Hunters.
2014-04-28 02:51:46 PM  
3 votes:

bungle_jr: Mugato: Target Builder: Homer Simpson is pulling in almost $80k?

The article says he's a Nuclear Safety "instructor", which I don't think is right. I think he's head of safety in the plant, which probably requires at least a masters in engineering. Which of course Homer doesn't have but he must have gotten the job through some comical means. The salary is probably about right.

if tfa said "instructor" it's wrong...nuclear safety INSPECTOR i do believe is correct.

i can't remember details right now, but i recall it was some sort of open application process when the plant opened, about the time homer was getting out of high school...or something like that. how he got such a seemingly high up job, i really don't recall.


That was for his original job (handling isotopes). He was promoted in the 3rd episode after complaining about the lack of safety in the plant. Of course I wouldn't be surprised if this promotion came with no raise or pay increase (typical of Mr. Burns), and workplace accidents have doubled every year since Homer got the job, so he probably isn't getting any bonuses.

Plus the author forgot that Abe Simpson sold the old family house to help Homer pay for his (and Homer shipped him off to a retirement home 3 weeks later), so the mortgage is much lower than it would be on a house that isn't paid for.
2014-04-28 01:44:28 PM  
3 votes:
The best house on TV is the Golden Girls house. Their lanai is sweet.
2014-04-28 07:13:45 PM  
2 votes:
Your clever circley infographic sucks and is hard to read.

I know you think bar graphs are "boring" because they can be made with Excel instead of Illustrator, but we still use them 200 years after they were invented because they're farking GOOD.
2014-04-28 07:12:17 PM  
2 votes:
How did Beavis and Butthead have a house, much less a TV with cable? I suppose you could reason that they are squatters, or the house belongs to one of their mothers who may be in prison and has the bills on auto pay from an account that's receiving welfare deposits or something. How come DCF never bothered to step in to do anything about two teenagers living alone in a house together?
2014-04-28 07:00:24 PM  
2 votes:

serpent_sky: No building in NYC has a huge, gorgeous spread out apartment like the girls and then that little dingy one across the hall.


But it happens.

One way it could be is that the girls apartment is at a building setback and its a 'pethouse' floor while the boys side continues higher.

Another might be that the boys apartment was once part of a bigger apartment that got sub-divided into smaller units, and they have one of them ((the other side being in the foreground of the hall we never see, at/behind the camera).

You also get developers who build mixed-floors, and are programmed for matching % marketshare of current trends (70% 2BR, 20% 1BR, 10% studio, for example).

Yet still, you get some conditions in some really old buildings were large apartments had 'maid quarters' that were adjacent, but times change and nobody keeps live-ins anymore, so that unit gets rented out separately.

There are some wacky-ass floor plans in this city, especially in older buildings.
2014-04-28 05:00:54 PM  
2 votes:

Neeek: They think a local TV host in San Francisco makes $96k? Hmm. Seems low.


Has San Fran always been *that* expensive, even pre-tech industry.

Also, in Full House he has 2 other adults living there who are probably paying token rent or with free babysitting, it isn't mentioned in the graph.

Considering his wife died, he could have paid off the house with her life insurance.
2014-04-28 04:53:00 PM  
2 votes:
In what universe does a construction worker and a waitress living in bumfark Lanford Il. make a combined income of $5,300. a month in the 1990's?
2014-04-28 04:10:49 PM  
2 votes:

The Banana Thug: bungle_jr: Wellon Dowd: Today I learned that Mad Men is a sitcom.

and apparently set in 2014, according to the pay/rent

unless the numbers are adjusted for inflation, and the "author" of this piece failed to mention that somewhere

it MUST be adjusted, because there is NO WAY al bundy pulled in over $1500/month in 1988 dollars

I can't figure out if you meant that's too low or too high.  Because that seems right to me.  That would be about $36K today, which is what I'd expect for a shoe salesman in the Chicago area.


AT BEST in today's dollars, a minimum wage shoe salesman would make $1176 a month. In 1988, he would have made more like $800 per month at minimum wage.
2014-04-28 03:07:47 PM  
2 votes:

bungle_jr: Mugato: Target Builder: Homer Simpson is pulling in almost $80k?

The article says he's a Nuclear Safety "instructor", which I don't think is right. I think he's head of safety in the plant, which probably requires at least a masters in engineering. Which of course Homer doesn't have but he must have gotten the job through some comical means. The salary is probably about right.

if tfa said "instructor" it's wrong...nuclear safety INSPECTOR i do believe is correct.

i can't remember details right now, but i recall it was some sort of open application process when the plant opened, about the time homer was getting out of high school...or something like that. how he got such a seemingly high up job, i really don't recall.


IIRC the episode where the plant was going to melt down Smithers and Burns were talking about Homer being hired under Operation Bootstrap. Mr. Burns thanked president Ford for that plan.
2014-04-28 02:41:06 PM  
2 votes:
I always loved the Honeymooners apartment. The window looked out on an air shaft. There was a cloth covering the space below the kitchen sink. 2 1/2 rooms. It looked reasonable that a bus driver lived there.
2014-04-28 02:30:20 PM  
2 votes:

Semper IvXx: Also, of all the stupid things to talk about, this is right up there. The living spaces aren't realistic because...wait for it...they're filming a TV show on a sound stage! They aren't real places with real rent, they're, as they say, enlarged to show detail and to make it possible to film.

Oddly enough they don't make many shows about people to poor to have someplace to live.


My Name Is Earl
2014-04-28 02:19:25 PM  
2 votes:
Next, someone should figure out how the interior of the Brady house would ever fit inside the exterior shot.
2014-04-28 02:08:47 PM  
2 votes:

Wellon Dowd: Today I learned that Mad Men is a sitcom.


and apparently set in 2014, according to the pay/rent

unless the numbers are adjusted for inflation, and the "author" of this piece failed to mention that somewhere

it MUST be adjusted, because there is NO WAY al bundy pulled in over $1500/month in 1988 dollars
2014-04-28 01:51:03 PM  
2 votes:
Is it me or are those incomes listed incredibly unrealistic?
2014-04-28 01:49:55 PM  
2 votes:

GalFriday: I also saw an episode of Big Bang where they found like three months worth of uncashed paychecks of Sheldon's in a desk drawer.  How is he paying bills if he hadn't cashed a paycheck in 3 months?


Paychecks? I haven't been handed an actual paycheck in over 27 years.
2014-04-28 01:38:26 PM  
2 votes:
Concerning Friends, I think the lack of minorities in New York was more obviously clueless than 'how can they afford their apartment'.
2014-04-28 01:36:12 PM  
2 votes:
I'd love to know how they came up with a housing cost for the Simpsons without knowing what state the house is in.
2014-04-28 01:22:56 PM  
2 votes:
Today I learned that Mad Men is a sitcom.
2014-04-28 12:13:07 PM  
2 votes:

scottydoesntknow: Monica and Rachel's apartment in Friends was rent-controlled (sublet from her grandmother). Their rent was a fark-ton lower than the $5,000 estimate.


It's actually a set on a sound stage in Los Angeles.
2014-04-28 12:10:42 PM  
2 votes:
Monica and Rachel's apartment in Friends was rent-controlled (sublet from her grandmother). Their rent was a fark-ton lower than the $5,000 estimate.
2014-04-29 01:27:34 AM  
1 votes:

peacheslatour: In what universe does a construction worker and a waitress living in bumfark Lanford Il. make a combined income of $5,300. a month in the 1990's?


Apparently in the same one where a supermarket manager and a real estate agent in a Philadelphia suburb make a combined $11,700 per month.

It seems like they're assuming the absolute highest possible income in a given field. Boy Meets World never (to my recollection) gave the impression that Amy Mathews was selling multi-million dollar mansions or commercial properties. But if she was then I could believe that she and a supermarket manager could consistently pull down that kind of money.
2014-04-29 12:54:52 AM  
1 votes:

Gig103: How about Penny living across the hall? Even a one-bedroom would be probably 2/3 the $1700 estimate, so $1100/mo on a waitress salary?


Probably why she sleeps around, eats their food, uses their wifi and borrows money from them.

Ted usually has roommates in his apartment, so I'm not sure why he was listed alone.

Also the Bundy house taking up all their money makes sense, that's why they never had food on the show.
2014-04-28 11:29:07 PM  
1 votes:

Li'l Robbie: The only apartment-dwellers on TV who lived in one even remotely resembling those most
Americans live in were Ralph and Alice Kramden.


Lucy and Ricky's apartment wasn't outrageous
2014-04-28 10:59:14 PM  
1 votes:

Wireless Joe: [1.bp.blogspot.com image 320x270]
Probably accurate for a couple of  bottle cappers in the time and place (late '50s Milwaukee) if they were union, but no way a couple of gift-wrappers at a department store could afford this place in Burbank.
[www.dvdtalk.com image 400x300]


Man, I hated that show after they moved out to California. Why the fark did EVERYONE follow them?
2014-04-28 10:21:51 PM  
1 votes:

LZeitgeist: mcreadyblue: Sin_City_Superhero: mcreadyblue: Fiero, LOL!

Can you explain your humor or disdain (I can't tell which one you are exhibiting)? Is there a problem with the Fiero?

Dr Jack Badofsky: Those are actually neat little cars! Stereo speakers in the headrests, they weren't bad on gas, the GTs were sporty little things (for a "commuter car"), and they looked good (the later ones moreso). I'd love to own a 2M6 or a GT with a stick shift.

Mine's an '86 GT, with a '95 Camaro engine (3.4 Liter V-6) and a 4-speed automatic transmission out of a '93 Bonneville. I need to raise it back up some because the previous owner lowered it too much. But it'll pass anything except a gas station...

Problem?

I seem to remember it was a basket case of engine and electrical issues. Typical poorly built GM product of the 80's. Never thought of it being a collectors car.

Actually, it was only the earliest '84's that got a bad batch of connecting rods that, when they failed, broke through the oil pan, spraying oil on the catalytic converter.

There was an incredibly minor percentage of Fieros involved, but it's easy to stigmatize an innovative, idea-driven car.

I own 2 '88's, a 4-cyl Coupe with nearly 300K miles on the original engine and drivetrain, and an '88 Formula with close to 250K on it on which I had an Automoda convertible conversion kit (one of about 35 in existence) installed.

The more Fiero haters there are out there, the more (and better selection of) cars and parts out there for those of us who know better...


1.bp.blogspot.com
2014-04-28 09:07:11 PM  
1 votes:

MFAWG: I got the impression from the stories that Holmes was some kind of Scottish nobility, possibly illegitimate.

I have no idea where I got that idea.


That's James Bond and it's actually something Fleming wrote into series as a nod to Connery.  At the end of one of the books, he has Bond retire and plan to return to his ancestral home.  They used it for Skyfall.

Conan Doyle was Anglo-Scottish; his father was English but he was born in Scotland.  He left the Holmes' origins mysterious, but both were clearly well-educated,  though privately.  Mycroft holding the sort of nebulous position he does suggests that the family was highly placed, and his club-based lifestyle is that of a gentleman of leisure.

Sherlock on the other hand, apparently needs money at least at the beginning, as he has specifically been looking for someone to share his rooms with.  Dr Watson being a retired, invalided army surgeon would have received a pension which gave him a reasonable set income.  He only goes back into seeing patients  after he marries and sets up household.
2014-04-28 08:45:39 PM  
1 votes:

Riotboy: Mid_mo_mad_man: The Cosby show's townhouse always bugged me. How could they afford it? Neither adult seemed to be at thier practice

I remember back in the 80s watching The Cosby Show, whenever they showed them eating some chips or drinking a soda, it was always some made up generic crap. I remember thinking how ridiculous it was that a fairly wealthy family like that couldn't afford name brand snacks. To me that's more distracting than showing someone eating/drinking a name brand product.

/CoCo Dots


Its because the show would have to pay the food companies money for use of their logos.

All tv shows do this. They have just gotten better at the mock food labels.
2014-04-28 06:50:38 PM  
1 votes:

Mikey1969: Trainspotr: Next, someone should figure out how the interior of the Brady house would ever fit inside the exterior shot.

I read a great article a few years back about how for an architect, Mike Brady had designed a shiatty house...


As an Architect, (a) we don't get paid enough to afford to build a house for ourselves and (b) we'd never be happy with what we come up with, and would not bother building anything.


on the flip side:

Ted Mosby only pulling in $4,900 a month in Manhattan? He's getting boned. Our salaries are lagging, but a 30-ish architect should be making more in this city.  If that is his salary based on his time as a professor, that might be closer to reality if he is only an adjunct/non-tenured.
2014-04-28 06:47:58 PM  
1 votes:

Nix Nightbird: Sin_City_Superhero: serpent_sky: I don't even feel like the paid Alice.

I think she got paid in free "meat" from the butcher, if you know what I mean...

The "working for free" joke was mentioned in the Brady Bunch movie. Alice apparently worked for room and board. She had a very nice place to live, a family to care for, a TV, a groovy record player, her own bathroom (allegedly) and plenty of free food because it was on the Brady budget for a family of 8-10 people (depending what season it was).

She was also "part of the family" and went with them on vacations. When was the last time you heard of any middle-class family bringing their maid on vacation with them?


1935.

The show, which was set in the 1970s was really about an upper-middle class family before WWII.  Look at houses and apartments build in the suburbs between WWI and WWII and you'll see a maids room off the kitchen.  This was really scaling down, as before WWI the same family would have had three or four servants.
2014-04-28 06:43:24 PM  
1 votes:

bungle_jr: i still haven't watched that show, shameful as that may be! when i'm sitting bored at the house trying to think of something to watch besides family guy and american dad reruns, i forget to look for that show online!


Check out the original: Carpool with Robert Llewellyn.
2014-04-28 06:11:48 PM  
1 votes:

Dwight_Yeast: yakmans_dad: I just looked (because I was curious) and a 2 br baker street apartment can go for 1 1/2 million pounds. Less desirable? Who knows. But crazy expensive.

That sound about right.  Everything within the London ring road is amazingly expensive.  From what I've seen trolling Google Street View, it's mostly commercial these days (the site of 221b, if it existed is a large office building, though I think the pub across the street has claimed the address).  They actually shoot the show on what's considered the "run down" section of Baker St.


Slight correction: they're shooting on Gower St, which is about a mile away from Baker St, and the areas around train stations are almost always a bit run down in Europe.

The north end of Baker St, which is where 221 would be is right near Regent Park, which justifies the high prices.
2014-04-28 05:57:37 PM  
1 votes:

yakmans_dad: I just looked (because I was curious) and a 2 br baker street apartment can go for 1 1/2 million pounds. Less desirable? Who knows. But crazy expensive.


That sound about right.  Everything within the London ring road is amazingly expensive.  From what I've seen trolling Google Street View, it's mostly commercial these days (the site of 221b, if it existed is a large office building, though I think the pub across the street has claimed the address).  They actually shoot the show on what's considered the "run down" section of Baker St.
2014-04-28 05:49:13 PM  
1 votes:

imfallen_angel: Mikey1969: I'd forgotten about that episode... That was awesome, but I can't remember the name of his miracle toilet, the CrapMaster 200 or something.

It's a Fergusson


BAWOOOOOOOOSH!
2014-04-28 05:48:23 PM  
1 votes:

Dwight_Yeast: Soulcatcher: eeyore102: Not a sitcom, but I do wonder how Sherlock manages to afford his flat on Baker Street. Yes, I know, Mrs. Hudson's cutting him a special deal, but still...and in "His Last Vow" we see that she's in debt so...how does that work, exactly?

Even in the books it says that Sherlock is paying her a princely sum for his rooms. Scotland Yard isn't paying him so...how...?

He makes extra scratch from the private clients he and John take on.

Yup. While they move in together for reasons of economy and a good address, in the books, they're pretty much set from "A Scandal in Bohemia" on, as the king pays Sherlock handsomely. Later on, when Watson comes back to work on cases, he says that he can leave his practice on Harley St for days at a time.

In the new Sherlock series, the explanation is that Mrs Hudson is willing to rent to the two of them at well below market rate because Sherlock got her husband convicted and executed in Florida. Also, Baker St is less desirable as a place to live than it was a century ago.


I just looked (because I was curious) and a 2 br baker street apartment can go for 1 1/2 million pounds. Less desirable? Who knows. But crazy expensive.
2014-04-28 05:32:46 PM  
1 votes:

Soulcatcher: eeyore102: Not a sitcom, but I do wonder how Sherlock manages to afford his flat on Baker Street. Yes, I know, Mrs. Hudson's cutting him a special deal, but still...and in "His Last Vow" we see that she's in debt so...how does that work, exactly?

Even in the books it says that Sherlock is paying her a princely sum for his rooms. Scotland Yard isn't paying him so...how...?

He makes extra scratch from the private clients he and John take on.


Yup. While they move in together for reasons of economy and a good address, in the books, they're pretty much set from "A Scandal in Bohemia" on, as the king pays Sherlock handsomely. Later on, when Watson comes back to work on cases, he says that he can leave his practice on Harley St for days at a time.

In the new Sherlock series, the explanation is that Mrs Hudson is willing to rent to the two of them at well below market rate because Sherlock got her husband convicted and executed in Florida. Also, Baker St is less desirable as a place to live than it was a century ago.
2014-04-28 05:27:07 PM  
1 votes:

Gary-L: BizarreMan: phalamir: Mr. Coffee Nerves: I still want to know why three surgeons/officers had to share a single tent on M*A*S*H* while Klinger got an entire tent to himself for his wardrobe.

Why did two jag-offs and a complete twat, who between the three of them could give everyone in the camp a compelling reason under the UMCJ to slowly torture them unto death, but the guy who ran the office where all the logistical paperwork originated got his own tent?  Nope, can't think of a single reason.

To make matters more interesting you've got to take into consideration the changes in jobs for Klinger.

If you recall, Radar lived in his office or at least he slept there and Klinger was just a lowly corpsman with his own tent.  I think when Klinger got the promotion to company clerk he moved into the office, giving up his own tent.

Either way, Klinger was enlisted and as such should have been bunking with two or three other people.


My personal theory is that when they were handing out tent assignments, somebody realized they could put the complete shiats in one tent.  This then left extra tent spaces in the camp, and Klinger just came out on top with his own tent.  Kinda like how sometimes you can score a dorm room without a roommate due to planning snafus
2014-04-28 05:16:12 PM  
1 votes:

serpent_sky: I don't even feel like the paid Alice.


I think she got paid in free "meat" from the butcher, if you know what I mean...
2014-04-28 05:10:22 PM  
1 votes:

peacheslatour: The Brady Bunch was all kinds of messed up.  Architect living in a poorly designed home, stay at home mom with a live-in maid, kids sharing bedrooms in said poorly designed home.  If they couldn't afford a bigger home, maybe they could lose the maid and Mrs. Brady could do her own damn cooking.


I don't even feel like the paid Alice.  She was like 24/7 slave labor.  They sometimes acted like she was part of the family, but she had to wear a uniform, was constantly catering to their every whim, and what the hell did Carol Brady do all day, considering she didn't work?

I have a broken wrist and can't safely drive, and even I can clean my apartment with my (non-dominant) left hand.
2014-04-28 04:57:03 PM  
1 votes:

eeyore102: Not a sitcom, but I do wonder how Sherlock manages to afford his flat on Baker Street. Yes, I know, Mrs. Hudson's cutting him a special deal, but still...and in "His Last Vow" we see that she's in debt so...how does that work, exactly?

Even in the books it says that Sherlock is paying her a princely sum for his rooms. Scotland Yard isn't paying him so...how...?


He makes extra scratch from the private clients he and John take on.
2014-04-28 04:46:33 PM  
1 votes:
All I learned from that infographic is that Illinois was home to the awesome sitcom families.
2014-04-28 04:28:41 PM  
1 votes:

spman: Was it ever explained on Seinfeld how Kramer managed to afford to live in Manhattan despite having seemingly zero income for the majority of the show?


Haha... please.
2014-04-28 04:21:21 PM  
1 votes:

yakmans_dad: I always loved the Honeymooners apartment. The window looked out on an air shaft. There was a cloth covering the space below the kitchen sink. 2 1/2 rooms. It looked reasonable that a bus driver lived there.


This is why I could never watch that show.  God that apartment was depressing.  I don't Know why Alice didn't get a job.  I wouldn't be able to hang around that dreary place all day long.
2014-04-28 04:17:10 PM  
1 votes:

peacheslatour: The Brady Bunch was all kinds of messed up.  Architect living in a poorly designed home, stay at home mom with a live-in maid, kids sharing bedrooms in said poorly designed home.  If they couldn't afford a bigger home, maybe they could lose the maid and Mrs. Brady could do her own damn cooking.


Somewhere there's an SNL House Hunters spoof where Mike and Carol see a couple of houses that would suit their family, then pick the one with two bedrooms and one bathroom for six kids.

Although they did apparently make the attic taller between the episode where Greg moves into Mike's office and the one where he moves into the attic.
2014-04-28 04:09:37 PM  
1 votes:
The Brady Bunch was all kinds of messed up.  Architect living in a poorly designed home, stay at home mom with a live-in maid, kids sharing bedrooms in said poorly designed home.  If they couldn't afford a bigger home, maybe they could lose the maid and Mrs. Brady could do her own damn cooking.
2014-04-28 03:58:12 PM  
1 votes:

squegeebooo: Sanguine Dawn: Wellon Dowd: Today I learned that Mad Men is a sitcom.

THIS


Also: No one else in the Full House household paid for rent?!?

Also This.  I thought that's why there was two 'uncles' living there with them, to help cover the rent/mortgage


Jessie was the girls' biological uncle.  Joey was Danny's wacky best friend.  They moved in with Danny after his wife was killed by a drunk driver, to help raise the girls.

Funny that the three of them are RL BFFs.  http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1wifo2/john_stamos_dave_coulier _ and_bob_saget_here_the/
2014-04-28 03:56:24 PM  
1 votes:
The only apartment-dwellers on TV who lived in one even remotely resembling those most
Americans live in were Ralph and Alice Kramden.
2014-04-28 03:47:01 PM  
1 votes:

mcreadyblue: Sin_City_Superhero: Tr0mBoNe: I have to make a Firefox addon that blocks anybody who mentions this company. I have enough half finished projects to not have a Delorean sitting in my kitchen.

I feel ya. I currently have three, but I'm wrapping up work on my '85 RX-7. Once I sell it, it'll just be the Datsun truck and the Fiero.

Fiero, LOL!


Those are actually neat little cars!  Stereo speakers in the headrests, they weren't bad on gas, the GTs were sporty little things (for a "commuter car"), and they looked good (the later ones moreso).  I'd love to own a 2M6 or a GT with a stick shift.

Btw, congrats to Subaru for showing a commercial with a model with a standard (dad is teaching his twins how to drive it).

/Save the manuals!
2014-04-28 03:20:29 PM  
1 votes:

Biff_Steel: [img.fark.net image 568x374]

They are way underestimating those salaries.


It's funny how the retired black couple make way less than anyone else. Doubly funny how everyone in that picture look so put upon and sad, as if they were struggling to get by on $9.50/hr...
2014-04-28 03:17:28 PM  
1 votes:

Yanks_RSJ: bungle_jr: so, $11/hr. but what season was that? show started in 87, and $11/hr back then was pretty good money.

That episode aired in 1996.


considering springfield is likely in the midwest, where housing prices tend to be cheaper than the coasts and big cities, $11/hr in 1996 would provide a decent lower-middle-class living
2014-04-28 03:11:22 PM  
1 votes:

Mugato: bungle_jr: how he got such a seemingly high up job, i really don't recall.

I'm guessing because Mr. Burns doesn't give a shiat. Lenny and Carl don't seem to be Dr. Christmas Jones in the nuclear physics dept either.


Season 1, Episode 3:

Unsatisfied with his own efforts, Homer takes on the biggest danger in Springfield, the nuclear power plant. After Homer rallies people to his cause, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Burns">Mr. Burns decides to end the furor he is creating by offering him a new position as the plant http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inspection">safety inspector, along with a higher salary. Homer, torn between his principles and his livelihood, tearfully tells his followers that they must fight their battles alone from this point on and takes the job.
2014-04-28 03:11:07 PM  
1 votes:

Yanks_RSJ: groppet: IIRC the episode where the plant was going to melt down Smithers and Burns were talking about Homer being hired under Operation Bootstrap. Mr. Burns thanked president Ford for that plan.

[www.randomlicious.org image 720x480]


To be fair though, we have yet to see another bear since they instituted the bear patrol tax.
2014-04-28 03:09:25 PM  
1 votes:

groppet: IIRC the episode where the plant was going to melt down Smithers and Burns were talking about Homer being hired under Operation Bootstrap. Mr. Burns thanked president Ford for that plan.


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2014-04-28 03:08:11 PM  
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spman: Was it ever explained on Seinfeld how Kramer managed to afford to live in Manhattan despite having seemingly zero income for the majority of the show?


In one episode it was implied that Kramer inherited a bunch of money earlier in his life.  And his apartment was a sublet from Paul Buchman (the lead character on Mad About you) who had apparently been there for quite a while.  It's possible his rent is rather low.

Plus, he's Kramer.
2014-04-28 03:07:34 PM  
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Mid_mo_mad_man: Gig103: How about Penny living across the hall? Even a one-bedroom would be probably 2/3 the $1700 estimate, so $1100/mo on a waitress salary?

daddy


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Took me a second to parse that one...

Mugato: bungle_jr: about the deloreans...delorean.com has many used for sale...most have "$inquire" on the price line, but there are prices from about $31k thru about $54k listed. you can get a "brand new" one, made from never-before-used parts, for something like $75k. so, delorean...not exactly like buying a rolls or bentley

Yeah, I didn't say they were but someone mentioned that he collects cars and I thought that was kind of cool.

/must be hard to get parts for though


Delorean parts are incredibly EASY to get ahold of. Enough parts were produced to make over 30,000, but less than 10,000 got assembled. There's a company in Texas (Delorean Motor Company) that bought EVERYTHING...all the NOS parts, all of the CAD files, blueprints, everything. Any parts that they run out of, they can reproduce to OEM specs or better. They also do full restorations, and Back to the Future conversions, if I remember correctly.
2014-04-28 02:46:29 PM  
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bungle_jr: how he got such a seemingly high up job, i really don't recall.


I'm guessing because Mr. Burns doesn't give a shiat. Lenny and Carl don't seem to be Dr. Christmas Jones in the nuclear physics dept either.
2014-04-28 02:46:26 PM  
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bungle_jr: serpent_sky: skozlaw: It was heavily implied numerous times throughout the series that Jerry Seinfeld made considerably more money than you would expect just from looking at his career from the outside. In all likelihood, Jerry was paying only a relatively small fraction of his actual income in rent.

Like when he bought the Cadillac for his father like it was nothing, or never seemed to want for anything,

jerry, on the show, seemed to be the kind of guy who, no matter how much money he made, had no need for a big fancy house/apartment or most worldly possessions. he was a perpetual bachelor who would rather spend his money outside the house.

in real life, i have no idea what his house is like, but i do know he has a car collection

Mid_mo_mad_man: The Cosby show's townhouse always bugged me. How could they afford it? Neither adult seemed to be at thier practice

both the adults were supposedly very successful veterans of their fields...and i recall several episodes where cliff was shown treating patients/delivering babies

Seacop: Mid_mo_mad_man: The Cosby show's townhouse always bugged me. How could they afford it? Neither adult seemed to be at thier practice

I thought Cliff had a home office?

been a while sine i really watched, but i think you're correct

Gig103: How about Penny living across the hall? Even a one-bedroom would be probably 2/3 the $1700 estimate, so $1100/mo on a waitress salary?

daddy


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2014-04-28 02:45:53 PM  
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I know it's not a sitcom, but a (pause for gagging) dramedy, but except for Sarah's basement pad and Amber's crack warehouse I have no idea how anyone on "Parenthood" can possibly afford their Berkeley/Bay Area homes.
2014-04-28 02:37:19 PM  
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BizarreMan: phalamir: Mr. Coffee Nerves: I still want to know why three surgeons/officers had to share a single tent on M*A*S*H* while Klinger got an entire tent to himself for his wardrobe.

Why did two jag-offs and a complete twat, who between the three of them could give everyone in the camp a compelling reason under the UMCJ to slowly torture them unto death, but the guy who ran the office where all the logistical paperwork originated got his own tent?  Nope, can't think of a single reason.

To make matters more interesting you've got to take into consideration the changes in jobs for Klinger.

If you recall, Radar lived in his office or at least he slept there and Klinger was just a lowly corpsman with his own tent.  I think when Klinger got the promotion to company clerk he moved into the office, giving up his own tent.


Either way, Klinger was enlisted and as such should have been bunking with two or three other people.
2014-04-28 02:35:51 PM  
1 votes:

Target Builder: Homer Simpson is pulling in almost $80k?


The article says he's a Nuclear Safety "instructor", which I don't think is right. I think he's head of safety in the plant, which probably requires at least a masters in engineering. Which of course Homer doesn't have but he must have gotten the job through some comical means. The salary is probably about right.
2014-04-28 02:32:40 PM  
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Semper IvXx: Also, of all the stupid things to talk about, this is right up there. The living spaces aren't realistic because...wait for it...they're filming a TV show on a sound stage! They aren't real places with real rent, they're, as they say, enlarged to show detail and to make it possible to film.

Oddly enough they don't make many shows about people to poor to have someplace to live.


i always thought the norman lear shows were about as accurate as possible with the living arrangements
2014-04-28 02:28:56 PM  
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The thing about Friends that bugged me was that they'd be sitting around the coffee house in the middle of a weekday, when one would assume they'd be at work. I seem to recall Joey mentioning it one time when everyone was talking about their bosses not liking them. Also...Ross. Didn't like him.
2014-04-28 02:26:54 PM  
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Homer Simpson is pulling in almost $80k?

And Don Draper was on a ton more than $150k , his living room is probably 1000 square feet and he got (IIRC) $500,000 in 1960's cash for his share of Stirling Cooper. He could afford a pretty nice pad..
2014-04-28 02:12:33 PM  
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One thing you have to admire about Woody Allen movies is that he seems to get the cramped apartment spaces more right than anyone else.
2014-04-28 02:05:48 PM  
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Wadded Beef: Crudbucket: Wadded Beef: Wellon Dowd: Today I learned that Mad Men is a sitcom.

DON DRAPER: (Takes sip of yet another drink, furthering his current descent and foreshadowing a future of sadness, isolation and regret)

STUDIO AUDIENCE: AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

It adds a new perspective.


That was...wow...just...wow.


That pretty much demonstrates just how uncomfortable it was in the How I Met Your Mother finale when, right after they revealed that the mother had been dead for 6 years, Ted's daughter encouraged him to go bone Aunt Robin, with a really loud laugh track accompanying it. Even if worked from a story perspective, the tone of the scene was thrown off horribly by the laugh track.
2014-04-28 02:04:37 PM  
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Mr. Coffee Nerves: I still want to know why three surgeons/officers had to share a single tent on M*A*S*H* while Klinger got an entire tent to himself for his wardrobe.


Why did two jag-offs and a complete twat, who between the three of them could give everyone in the camp a compelling reason under the UMCJ to slowly torture them unto death, but the guy who ran the office where all the logistical paperwork originated got his own tent?  Nope, can't think of a single reason.
2014-04-28 02:04:26 PM  
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Mid_mo_mad_man: The Cosby show's townhouse always bugged me. How could they afford it? Neither adult seemed to be at thier practice


I thought Cliff had a home office?
2014-04-28 02:01:14 PM  
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skozlaw: It was heavily implied numerous times throughout the series that Jerry Seinfeld made considerably more money than you would expect just from looking at his career from the outside. In all likelihood, Jerry was paying only a relatively small fraction of his actual income in rent.


Like when he bought the Cadillac for his father like it was nothing, or never seemed to want for anything,
2014-04-28 01:59:45 PM  
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Mugato: Now George's place was about the same and he was on again off again unemployed.


Didn't he have to move back in with his parents at one point?

While he was unemployed a lot, when he was employed, he usually had good, high-paying jobs.

Kramer is much harder to explain... It seems like they didn't go much into it but he probably ran a lot of scams and schemes to get by.  He also generally ate out of Jerry's apartment at all times.
2014-04-28 01:56:09 PM  
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It was heavily implied numerous times throughout the series that Jerry Seinfeld made considerably more money than you would expect just from looking at his career from the outside. In all likelihood, Jerry was paying only a relatively small fraction of his actual income in rent.
2014-04-28 01:53:26 PM  
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Was it ever explained on Seinfeld how Kramer managed to afford to live in Manhattan despite having seemingly zero income for the majority of the show?
2014-04-28 01:52:11 PM  
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Yeah, Friends was an odd choice for the article. They mentioned the big apartment being rent controlled several times per season, and Chandler said a few times that he could easily afford to live alone.

I'm also not convinced the Bundy house was nearly as large as TFA suggests. Perspective on the sound stage made the living room and kitchen look big, but the dialog always suggested otherwise. The upstairs bedrooms all seemed to be pretty small. I never imagined it to be more than 1100 sq ft or so.
2014-04-28 01:51:57 PM  
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GalFriday: Phins: serpent_sky: Gig103: How about Penny living across the hall? Even a one-bedroom would be probably 2/3 the $1700 estimate, so $1100/mo on a waitress salary?

I've also wondered why Leonard and Sheldon need to be roommates, with Leonard dealing with all of Sheldon's quirks, if he could have a place just like Penny's on his own.

(I move a lot. These things get to me. I know the show wouldn't work otherwise. Haha.)

The theme from "Friends" always bugged me about how "broke" they are (rent controlled or not)...  also that building has massive disparity in apartments when you look at Monica and Rachael's versus the one across the hall the guys live in.  No building in NYC has a huge, gorgeous spread out apartment like the girls and then that little dingy one across the hall.

There was one episode where Sheldon said that all of his monthly expenses were only ~45% of his salary. But in another episode, he said that he would live alone if he could afford the rent himself.

No, I don't watch that much television, I just have a really good memory.

I also saw an episode of Big Bang where they found like three months worth of uncashed paychecks of Sheldon's in a desk drawer.  How is he paying bills if he hadn't cashed a paycheck in 3 months?


At work we had to re cut these checks for a guy. He left them laying around for over 180 days and each one was over $4k. I told payroll he didnt need the money so we should split it, they didnt go for it.
2014-04-28 01:49:59 PM  
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Ow! That was my feelings!: Concerning Friends, I think the lack of minorities in New York was more obviously clueless than 'how can they afford their apartment'.


You know, that always bothered me, until I found out that New York is the most racially segregated city in America.

http://www.businessinsider.com/most-segregated-cities-census-maps-20 13 -4?op=1
http://gothamist.com/2014/04/15/nyc_segregation_map.php#
2014-04-28 01:32:08 PM  
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Wellon Dowd: Today I learned that Mad Men is a sitcom.


THIS


Also: No one else in the Full House household paid for rent?!?
2014-04-28 01:31:47 PM  
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scottydoesntknow: Monica and Rachel's apartment in Friends was rent-controlled (sublet from her grandmother). Their rent was a fark-ton lower than the $5,000 estimate.


I thought this was going to be the Boobies.

If they were going to do Friends they should have done Chandler and Joey's apartment. It's not as big as the girls' but it's still in a decent part of Manhattan. I don't know what Chandler did but Joey was an out of work actor wasn't he?

And how could they have any Idea how much Seinfeld made?
2014-04-28 01:30:01 PM  
1 votes:
They think a local TV host in San Francisco makes $96k? Hmm. Seems low.
2014-04-28 01:29:41 PM  
1 votes:

Gig103: How about Penny living across the hall? Even a one-bedroom would be probably 2/3 the $1700 estimate, so $1100/mo on a waitress salary?


I've also wondered why Leonard and Sheldon need to be roommates, with Leonard dealing with all of Sheldon's quirks, if he could have a place just like Penny's on his own.

(I move a lot. These things get to me. I know the show wouldn't work otherwise. Haha.)

The theme from "Friends" always bugged me about how "broke" they are (rent controlled or not)...  also that building has massive disparity in apartments when you look at Monica and Rachael's versus the one across the hall the guys live in.  No building in NYC has a huge, gorgeous spread out apartment like the girls and then that little dingy one across the hall.
2014-04-28 01:28:51 PM  
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scottydoesntknow: Monica and Rachel's apartment in Friends was rent-controlled (sublet from her grandmother). Their rent was a fark-ton lower than the $5,000 estimate.


That was one of the things about the final episode that made no sense:  they were giving up the apartment.  Basically flushing money away.  People keep rent-controlled apartments in NYC because of the value even if they don't use them.
2014-04-28 01:23:55 PM  
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Mr. Coffee Nerves: I still want to know why three surgeons/officers had to share a single tent on M*A*S*H* while Klinger got an entire tent to himself for his wardrobe.


Would you want to share a tent with Klinger?
2014-04-28 12:16:52 PM  
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Solid State Vittles: scottydoesntknow: Monica and Rachel's apartment in Friends was rent-controlled (sublet from her grandmother). Their rent was a fark-ton lower than the $5,000 estimate.

It's actually a set on a sound stage in Los Angeles.


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2014-04-28 11:50:49 AM  
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Are those adjusted for inflation? Where is you standard deviation! How can I trust these studies?!?!
 
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