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(Movoto)   Have you ever said to yourself, "There's no way those people could afford THAT apartment" when watching a TV show? Well, me neither, but here's vindication for you just in case you did   (movoto.com) divider line 254
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2014-04-28 11:50:49 AM  
Are those adjusted for inflation? Where is you standard deviation! How can I trust these studies?!?!
 
2014-04-28 12:10:42 PM  
Monica and Rachel's apartment in Friends was rent-controlled (sublet from her grandmother). Their rent was a fark-ton lower than the $5,000 estimate.
 
2014-04-28 12:13:07 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Monica and Rachel's apartment in Friends was rent-controlled (sublet from her grandmother). Their rent was a fark-ton lower than the $5,000 estimate.


It's actually a set on a sound stage in Los Angeles.
 
2014-04-28 12:16:52 PM  

Solid State Vittles: scottydoesntknow: Monica and Rachel's apartment in Friends was rent-controlled (sublet from her grandmother). Their rent was a fark-ton lower than the $5,000 estimate.

It's actually a set on a sound stage in Los Angeles.


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2014-04-28 12:25:45 PM  
How about Penny living across the hall? Even a one-bedroom would be probably 2/3 the $1700 estimate, so $1100/mo on a waitress salary?
 
2014-04-28 12:26:36 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Monica and Rachel's apartment in Friends was rent-controlled (sublet from her grandmother). Their rent was a fark-ton lower than the $5,000 estimate.


came here to say THIS and laugh at the moron who wrote the article
 
2014-04-28 01:01:29 PM  
I still want to know why three surgeons/officers had to share a single tent on M*A*S*H* while Klinger got an entire tent to himself for his wardrobe.
 
2014-04-28 01:22:56 PM  
Today I learned that Mad Men is a sitcom.
 
2014-04-28 01:23:55 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: I still want to know why three surgeons/officers had to share a single tent on M*A*S*H* while Klinger got an entire tent to himself for his wardrobe.


Would you want to share a tent with Klinger?
 
2014-04-28 01:27:44 PM  

SuperChuck: Mr. Coffee Nerves: I still want to know why three surgeons/officers had to share a single tent on M*A*S*H* while Klinger got an entire tent to himself for his wardrobe.

Would you want to share a tent with Klinger?


Hell yes!
 
2014-04-28 01:28:51 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Monica and Rachel's apartment in Friends was rent-controlled (sublet from her grandmother). Their rent was a fark-ton lower than the $5,000 estimate.


That was one of the things about the final episode that made no sense:  they were giving up the apartment.  Basically flushing money away.  People keep rent-controlled apartments in NYC because of the value even if they don't use them.
 
2014-04-28 01:29:41 PM  

Gig103: How about Penny living across the hall? Even a one-bedroom would be probably 2/3 the $1700 estimate, so $1100/mo on a waitress salary?


I've also wondered why Leonard and Sheldon need to be roommates, with Leonard dealing with all of Sheldon's quirks, if he could have a place just like Penny's on his own.

(I move a lot. These things get to me. I know the show wouldn't work otherwise. Haha.)

The theme from "Friends" always bugged me about how "broke" they are (rent controlled or not)...  also that building has massive disparity in apartments when you look at Monica and Rachael's versus the one across the hall the guys live in.  No building in NYC has a huge, gorgeous spread out apartment like the girls and then that little dingy one across the hall.
 
2014-04-28 01:30:01 PM  
They think a local TV host in San Francisco makes $96k? Hmm. Seems low.
 
2014-04-28 01:30:47 PM  

Wellon Dowd: Today I learned that Mad Men is a sitcom.


DON DRAPER: (Takes sip of yet another drink, furthering his current descent and foreshadowing a future of sadness, isolation and regret)

STUDIO AUDIENCE: AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
 
2014-04-28 01:31:47 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Monica and Rachel's apartment in Friends was rent-controlled (sublet from her grandmother). Their rent was a fark-ton lower than the $5,000 estimate.


I thought this was going to be the Boobies.

If they were going to do Friends they should have done Chandler and Joey's apartment. It's not as big as the girls' but it's still in a decent part of Manhattan. I don't know what Chandler did but Joey was an out of work actor wasn't he?

And how could they have any Idea how much Seinfeld made?
 
2014-04-28 01:31:58 PM  

Wadded Beef: Wellon Dowd: Today I learned that Mad Men is a sitcom.

DON DRAPER: (Takes sip of yet another drink, furthering his current descent and foreshadowing a future of sadness, isolation and regret)

STUDIO AUDIENCE: AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.


It adds a new perspective.
 
2014-04-28 01:32:08 PM  

Wellon Dowd: Today I learned that Mad Men is a sitcom.


THIS


Also: No one else in the Full House household paid for rent?!?
 
2014-04-28 01:34:59 PM  

Crudbucket: Wadded Beef: Wellon Dowd: Today I learned that Mad Men is a sitcom.

DON DRAPER: (Takes sip of yet another drink, furthering his current descent and foreshadowing a future of sadness, isolation and regret)

STUDIO AUDIENCE: AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

It adds a new perspective.



That was...wow...just...wow.
 
2014-04-28 01:36:12 PM  
I'd love to know how they came up with a housing cost for the Simpsons without knowing what state the house is in.
 
2014-04-28 01:36:14 PM  

serpent_sky: Gig103: How about Penny living across the hall? Even a one-bedroom would be probably 2/3 the $1700 estimate, so $1100/mo on a waitress salary?

I've also wondered why Leonard and Sheldon need to be roommates, with Leonard dealing with all of Sheldon's quirks, if he could have a place just like Penny's on his own.

(I move a lot. These things get to me. I know the show wouldn't work otherwise. Haha.)

The theme from "Friends" always bugged me about how "broke" they are (rent controlled or not)...  also that building has massive disparity in apartments when you look at Monica and Rachael's versus the one across the hall the guys live in.  No building in NYC has a huge, gorgeous spread out apartment like the girls and then that little dingy one across the hall.


There was one episode where Sheldon said that all of his monthly expenses were only ~45% of his salary. But in another episode, he said that he would live alone if he could afford the rent himself.

No, I don't watch that much television, I just have a really good memory.
 
2014-04-28 01:36:42 PM  

Sanguine Dawn: Also: No one else in the Full House household paid for rent?!?


Well I think John Stamos was a musician, the twin girls sold coke and the blonde dude got blown by Alanis Morrisette for a living.
 
2014-04-28 01:37:08 PM  

Mugato: scottydoesntknow: Monica and Rachel's apartment in Friends was rent-controlled (sublet from her grandmother). Their rent was a fark-ton lower than the $5,000 estimate.

I thought this was going to be the Boobies.

If they were going to do Friends they should have done Chandler and Joey's apartment. It's not as big as the girls' but it's still in a decent part of Manhattan. I don't know what Chandler did but Joey was an out of work actor wasn't he?

And how could they have any Idea how much Seinfeld made?


Chandler made a lot of money as a Transponster. He paid the rent and everything for him and Joey. I think he even continued to do so after moving out.

And yea, the Jerry one is also dumb. It was established that Jerry is a very successful comedian and made way more than the "average" they go by.
 
2014-04-28 01:38:03 PM  

Sanguine Dawn: Wellon Dowd: Today I learned that Mad Men is a sitcom.

THIS


Also: No one else in the Full House household paid for rent?!?


Also This.  I thought that's why there was two 'uncles' living there with them, to help cover the rent/mortgage
 
2014-04-28 01:38:26 PM  
Concerning Friends, I think the lack of minorities in New York was more obviously clueless than 'how can they afford their apartment'.
 
2014-04-28 01:40:34 PM  

Phins: There was one episode where Sheldon said that all of his monthly expenses were only ~45% of his salary. But in another episode, he said that he would live alone if he could afford the rent himself.


He should become a waitress then, or get money management classes from Penny.  :)
 
2014-04-28 01:41:35 PM  

Phins: serpent_sky: Gig103: How about Penny living across the hall? Even a one-bedroom would be probably 2/3 the $1700 estimate, so $1100/mo on a waitress salary?

I've also wondered why Leonard and Sheldon need to be roommates, with Leonard dealing with all of Sheldon's quirks, if he could have a place just like Penny's on his own.

(I move a lot. These things get to me. I know the show wouldn't work otherwise. Haha.)

The theme from "Friends" always bugged me about how "broke" they are (rent controlled or not)...  also that building has massive disparity in apartments when you look at Monica and Rachael's versus the one across the hall the guys live in.  No building in NYC has a huge, gorgeous spread out apartment like the girls and then that little dingy one across the hall.

There was one episode where Sheldon said that all of his monthly expenses were only ~45% of his salary. But in another episode, he said that he would live alone if he could afford the rent himself.

No, I don't watch that much television, I just have a really good memory.


I also saw an episode of Big Bang where they found like three months worth of uncashed paychecks of Sheldon's in a desk drawer.  How is he paying bills if he hadn't cashed a paycheck in 3 months?
 
2014-04-28 01:43:00 PM  

Mugato: scottydoesntknow: Monica and Rachel's apartment in Friends was rent-controlled (sublet from her grandmother). Their rent was a fark-ton lower than the $5,000 estimate.

I thought this was going to be the Boobies.

If they were going to do Friends they should have done Chandler and Joey's apartment. It's not as big as the girls' but it's still in a decent part of Manhattan. I don't know what Chandler did but Joey was an out of work actor wasn't he?

And how could they have any Idea how much Seinfeld made?


Chandler is a Transponster
 
2014-04-28 01:44:28 PM  
The best house on TV is the Golden Girls house. Their lanai is sweet.
 
2014-04-28 01:44:43 PM  
1.bp.blogspot.com
Probably accurate for a couple of  bottle cappers in the time and place (late '50s Milwaukee) if they were union, but no way a couple of gift-wrappers at a department store could afford this place in Burbank.
www.dvdtalk.com
 
2014-04-28 01:44:43 PM  

Seacop: Chandler is a Transponster


THAT'S NOT EVEN A WORD!!!

/One of the best episodes ever
 
2014-04-28 01:45:32 PM  

Seacop: Mugato: scottydoesntknow: Monica and Rachel's apartment in Friends was rent-controlled (sublet from her grandmother). Their rent was a fark-ton lower than the $5,000 estimate.

I thought this was going to be the Boobies.

If they were going to do Friends they should have done Chandler and Joey's apartment. It's not as big as the girls' but it's still in a decent part of Manhattan. I don't know what Chandler did but Joey was an out of work actor wasn't he?

And how could they have any Idea how much Seinfeld made?

Chandler is a Transponster


He worked on the WENUS
 
2014-04-28 01:49:55 PM  

GalFriday: I also saw an episode of Big Bang where they found like three months worth of uncashed paychecks of Sheldon's in a desk drawer.  How is he paying bills if he hadn't cashed a paycheck in 3 months?


Paychecks? I haven't been handed an actual paycheck in over 27 years.
 
2014-04-28 01:49:58 PM  

serpent_sky: Phins: There was one episode where Sheldon said that all of his monthly expenses were only ~45% of his salary. But in another episode, he said that he would live alone if he could afford the rent himself.

He should become a waitress then, or get money management classes from Penny.  :)


I assume that Penny pays her rent primarily off Lenord's tips. The first couple seasons, at least.
 
2014-04-28 01:49:59 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: Concerning Friends, I think the lack of minorities in New York was more obviously clueless than 'how can they afford their apartment'.


You know, that always bothered me, until I found out that New York is the most racially segregated city in America.

http://www.businessinsider.com/most-segregated-cities-census-maps-20 13 -4?op=1
http://gothamist.com/2014/04/15/nyc_segregation_map.php#
 
2014-04-28 01:51:03 PM  
Is it me or are those incomes listed incredibly unrealistic?
 
2014-04-28 01:51:57 PM  

GalFriday: Phins: serpent_sky: Gig103: How about Penny living across the hall? Even a one-bedroom would be probably 2/3 the $1700 estimate, so $1100/mo on a waitress salary?

I've also wondered why Leonard and Sheldon need to be roommates, with Leonard dealing with all of Sheldon's quirks, if he could have a place just like Penny's on his own.

(I move a lot. These things get to me. I know the show wouldn't work otherwise. Haha.)

The theme from "Friends" always bugged me about how "broke" they are (rent controlled or not)...  also that building has massive disparity in apartments when you look at Monica and Rachael's versus the one across the hall the guys live in.  No building in NYC has a huge, gorgeous spread out apartment like the girls and then that little dingy one across the hall.

There was one episode where Sheldon said that all of his monthly expenses were only ~45% of his salary. But in another episode, he said that he would live alone if he could afford the rent himself.

No, I don't watch that much television, I just have a really good memory.

I also saw an episode of Big Bang where they found like three months worth of uncashed paychecks of Sheldon's in a desk drawer.  How is he paying bills if he hadn't cashed a paycheck in 3 months?


At work we had to re cut these checks for a guy. He left them laying around for over 180 days and each one was over $4k. I told payroll he didnt need the money so we should split it, they didnt go for it.
 
2014-04-28 01:52:11 PM  
Yeah, Friends was an odd choice for the article. They mentioned the big apartment being rent controlled several times per season, and Chandler said a few times that he could easily afford to live alone.

I'm also not convinced the Bundy house was nearly as large as TFA suggests. Perspective on the sound stage made the living room and kitchen look big, but the dialog always suggested otherwise. The upstairs bedrooms all seemed to be pretty small. I never imagined it to be more than 1100 sq ft or so.
 
2014-04-28 01:52:56 PM  

Wellon Dowd: GalFriday: I also saw an episode of Big Bang where they found like three months worth of uncashed paychecks of Sheldon's in a desk drawer.  How is he paying bills if he hadn't cashed a paycheck in 3 months?

Paychecks? I haven't been handed an actual paycheck in over 27 years.


I haven't either, but I don't write that show, now do I?
 
2014-04-28 01:53:26 PM  
Was it ever explained on Seinfeld how Kramer managed to afford to live in Manhattan despite having seemingly zero income for the majority of the show?
 
2014-04-28 01:53:37 PM  

scottydoesntknow: And yea, the Jerry one is also dumb. It was established that Jerry is a very successful comedian and made way more than the "average" they go by


Yeah, his was the most realistic. Pretty plain by sitcom standards but it's in Manhattan and fits someone who's slightly rich but also doesn't know where his next check is coming from.

Now George's place was about the same and he was on again off again unemployed.
 
2014-04-28 01:55:04 PM  

GalFriday: Seacop: Mugato: scottydoesntknow: Monica and Rachel's apartment in Friends was rent-controlled (sublet from her grandmother). Their rent was a fark-ton lower than the $5,000 estimate.

I thought this was going to be the Boobies.

If they were going to do Friends they should have done Chandler and Joey's apartment. It's not as big as the girls' but it's still in a decent part of Manhattan. I don't know what Chandler did but Joey was an out of work actor wasn't he?

And how could they have any Idea how much Seinfeld made?

Chandler is a Transponster

He worked on the WENUS


And nearly the ANUS.
 
2014-04-28 01:56:09 PM  
It was heavily implied numerous times throughout the series that Jerry Seinfeld made considerably more money than you would expect just from looking at his career from the outside. In all likelihood, Jerry was paying only a relatively small fraction of his actual income in rent.
 
2014-04-28 01:58:23 PM  

spman: Was it ever explained on Seinfeld how Kramer managed to afford to live in Manhattan despite having seemingly zero income for the majority of the show?


That's one of the running gags. Either George or Jerry asked him point-blank about it once and he just gave some cryptic non-answer that leads you to believe he's getting money somehow but doesn't want to say what it is.
 
2014-04-28 01:59:45 PM  

Mugato: Now George's place was about the same and he was on again off again unemployed.


Didn't he have to move back in with his parents at one point?

While he was unemployed a lot, when he was employed, he usually had good, high-paying jobs.

Kramer is much harder to explain... It seems like they didn't go much into it but he probably ran a lot of scams and schemes to get by.  He also generally ate out of Jerry's apartment at all times.
 
2014-04-28 02:00:32 PM  

spman: Was it ever explained on Seinfeld how Kramer managed to afford to live in Manhattan despite having seemingly zero income for the majority of the show?


George in "The Visa":

"Kramer goes to Fantasy Camp. His whole life is a fantasy camp. People should plunk down two-thousand dollars to live like him for a month. Do nothing, fall ass-backwards into money, mooch food off your neighbors, and have sex without dating.THAT'S a Fantasy camp!"

Also he was on strike from the bagel company.
 
2014-04-28 02:00:57 PM  
The Cosby show's townhouse always bugged me. How could they afford it? Neither adult seemed to be at thier practice
 
2014-04-28 02:01:14 PM  

skozlaw: It was heavily implied numerous times throughout the series that Jerry Seinfeld made considerably more money than you would expect just from looking at his career from the outside. In all likelihood, Jerry was paying only a relatively small fraction of his actual income in rent.


Like when he bought the Cadillac for his father like it was nothing, or never seemed to want for anything,
 
2014-04-28 02:02:47 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Mugato: scottydoesntknow: Monica and Rachel's apartment in Friends was rent-controlled (sublet from her grandmother). Their rent was a fark-ton lower than the $5,000 estimate.

I thought this was going to be the Boobies.

If they were going to do Friends they should have done Chandler and Joey's apartment. It's not as big as the girls' but it's still in a decent part of Manhattan. I don't know what Chandler did but Joey was an out of work actor wasn't he?

And how could they have any Idea how much Seinfeld made?

Chandler made a lot of money as a Transponster. He paid the rent and everything for him and Joey. I think he even continued to do so after moving out.

And yea, the Jerry one is also dumb. It was established that Jerry is a very successful comedian and made way more than the "average" they go by.


Oh, so you are one of those who believed he could afford that Cadillac and go to the non-early bird special. Go steal a marble rye....
 
2014-04-28 02:04:26 PM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: The Cosby show's townhouse always bugged me. How could they afford it? Neither adult seemed to be at thier practice


I thought Cliff had a home office?
 
2014-04-28 02:04:37 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: I still want to know why three surgeons/officers had to share a single tent on M*A*S*H* while Klinger got an entire tent to himself for his wardrobe.


Why did two jag-offs and a complete twat, who between the three of them could give everyone in the camp a compelling reason under the UMCJ to slowly torture them unto death, but the guy who ran the office where all the logistical paperwork originated got his own tent?  Nope, can't think of a single reason.
 
2014-04-28 02:05:10 PM  

serpent_sky: Mugato: Now George's place was about the same and he was on again off again unemployed.

Didn't he have to move back in with his parents at one point?

While he was unemployed a lot, when he was employed, he usually had good, high-paying jobs.

Kramer is much harder to explain... It seems like they didn't go much into it but he probably ran a lot of scams and schemes to get by.  He also generally ate out of Jerry's apartment at all times.


When he was employed, he spent big baby!
 
2014-04-28 02:05:48 PM  

Wadded Beef: Crudbucket: Wadded Beef: Wellon Dowd: Today I learned that Mad Men is a sitcom.

DON DRAPER: (Takes sip of yet another drink, furthering his current descent and foreshadowing a future of sadness, isolation and regret)

STUDIO AUDIENCE: AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

It adds a new perspective.


That was...wow...just...wow.


That pretty much demonstrates just how uncomfortable it was in the How I Met Your Mother finale when, right after they revealed that the mother had been dead for 6 years, Ted's daughter encouraged him to go bone Aunt Robin, with a really loud laugh track accompanying it. Even if worked from a story perspective, the tone of the scene was thrown off horribly by the laugh track.
 
2014-04-28 02:08:47 PM  

Wellon Dowd: Today I learned that Mad Men is a sitcom.


and apparently set in 2014, according to the pay/rent

unless the numbers are adjusted for inflation, and the "author" of this piece failed to mention that somewhere

it MUST be adjusted, because there is NO WAY al bundy pulled in over $1500/month in 1988 dollars
 
2014-04-28 02:09:16 PM  
Also, of all the stupid things to talk about, this is right up there. The living spaces aren't realistic because...wait for it...they're filming a TV show on a sound stage! They aren't real places with real rent, they're, as they say, enlarged to show detail and to make it possible to film.

Oddly enough they don't make many shows about people to poor to have someplace to live.
 
2014-04-28 02:12:33 PM  
One thing you have to admire about Woody Allen movies is that he seems to get the cramped apartment spaces more right than anyone else.
 
2014-04-28 02:15:06 PM  

Semper IvXx: Also, of all the stupid things to talk about, this is right up there. The living spaces aren't realistic because...wait for it...they're filming a TV show on a sound stage!


Wow thanks. All this time I thought I was watching documentaries.
 
2014-04-28 02:18:47 PM  

Phins: serpent_sky: Gig103: How about Penny living across the hall? Even a one-bedroom would be probably 2/3 the $1700 estimate, so $1100/mo on a waitress salary?

I've also wondered why Leonard and Sheldon need to be roommates, with Leonard dealing with all of Sheldon's quirks, if he could have a place just like Penny's on his own.

(I move a lot. These things get to me. I know the show wouldn't work otherwise. Haha.)

The theme from "Friends" always bugged me about how "broke" they are (rent controlled or not)...  also that building has massive disparity in apartments when you look at Monica and Rachael's versus the one across the hall the guys live in.  No building in NYC has a huge, gorgeous spread out apartment like the girls and then that little dingy one across the hall.

There was one episode where Sheldon said that all of his monthly expenses were only ~45% of his salary. But in another episode, he said that he would live alone if he could afford the rent himself.

No, I don't watch that much television, I just have a really good memory.


First, afford means different things than whether one can technically scrape by. I can do a half million dollar home. I don't consider it affordable.

Second sheldon's roomate takes on his commuting costs and half the rent/utilities, so even at its most technical the two of sheldon's statements could be true.
 
2014-04-28 02:19:19 PM  

Seacop: Mid_mo_mad_man: The Cosby show's townhouse always bugged me. How could they afford it? Neither adult seemed to be at thier practice

I thought Cliff had a home office?


Perhaps. I don't recall him ever seeing a patient or the wife seeing clients
 
2014-04-28 02:19:25 PM  
Next, someone should figure out how the interior of the Brady house would ever fit inside the exterior shot.
 
2014-04-28 02:23:33 PM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: Seacop: Mid_mo_mad_man: The Cosby show's townhouse always bugged me. How could they afford it? Neither adult seemed to be at thier practice

I thought Cliff had a home office?

Perhaps. I don't recall him ever seeing a patient or the wife seeing clients


I looked it up, he had an office in the basement that was accessable through a door on the street. Claire was a partner in her law firm, so she probably could take off whenever she wanted
 
2014-04-28 02:25:42 PM  
I wanna know how Rick affords the rent on a whole prison on a cops salary.
 
2014-04-28 02:26:54 PM  
Homer Simpson is pulling in almost $80k?

And Don Draper was on a ton more than $150k , his living room is probably 1000 square feet and he got (IIRC) $500,000 in 1960's cash for his share of Stirling Cooper. He could afford a pretty nice pad..
 
2014-04-28 02:28:48 PM  

Semper IvXx: Also, of all the stupid things to talk about, this is right up there. The living spaces aren't realistic because...wait for it...they're filming a TV show on a sound stage! They aren't real places with real rent, they're, as they say, enlarged to show detail and to make it possible to film.

Oddly enough they don't make many shows about people to poor to have someplace to live.


I bet you are just a thrill at parties...
 
2014-04-28 02:28:56 PM  
The thing about Friends that bugged me was that they'd be sitting around the coffee house in the middle of a weekday, when one would assume they'd be at work. I seem to recall Joey mentioning it one time when everyone was talking about their bosses not liking them. Also...Ross. Didn't like him.
 
2014-04-28 02:29:08 PM  

Fano: One thing you have to admire about Woody Allen movies is that he seems to get the cramped apartment spaces more right than anyone else.


I think he uses more locations than sound stages and sets
 
2014-04-28 02:29:15 PM  

dwade: I wanna know how Rick affords the rent on a whole prison on a cops salary.


He can't. The last half of season 3 was about the Governor trying to evict him.
 
2014-04-28 02:29:56 PM  

Trainspotr: Next, someone should figure out how the interior of the Brady house would ever fit inside the exterior shot.


I think someone did, and the house was a nightmare of a layout.
 
2014-04-28 02:30:20 PM  

Semper IvXx: Also, of all the stupid things to talk about, this is right up there. The living spaces aren't realistic because...wait for it...they're filming a TV show on a sound stage! They aren't real places with real rent, they're, as they say, enlarged to show detail and to make it possible to film.

Oddly enough they don't make many shows about people to poor to have someplace to live.


My Name Is Earl
 
2014-04-28 02:30:21 PM  

Trainspotr: Next, someone should figure out how the interior of the Brady house would ever fit inside the exterior shot.


Or why an architect didn't build an addition on that house.
Or why their maid was essentially an indentured servant.
 
2014-04-28 02:30:57 PM  

serpent_sky: skozlaw: It was heavily implied numerous times throughout the series that Jerry Seinfeld made considerably more money than you would expect just from looking at his career from the outside. In all likelihood, Jerry was paying only a relatively small fraction of his actual income in rent.

Like when he bought the Cadillac for his father like it was nothing, or never seemed to want for anything,


jerry, on the show, seemed to be the kind of guy who, no matter how much money he made, had no need for a big fancy house/apartment or most worldly possessions. he was a perpetual bachelor who would rather spend his money outside the house.

in real life, i have no idea what his house is like, but i do know he has a car collection

Mid_mo_mad_man: The Cosby show's townhouse always bugged me. How could they afford it? Neither adult seemed to be at thier practice


both the adults were supposedly very successful veterans of their fields...and i recall several episodes where cliff was shown treating patients/delivering babies

Seacop: Mid_mo_mad_man: The Cosby show's townhouse always bugged me. How could they afford it? Neither adult seemed to be at thier practice

I thought Cliff had a home office?


been a while sine i really watched, but i think you're correct

Gig103: How about Penny living across the hall? Even a one-bedroom would be probably 2/3 the $1700 estimate, so $1100/mo on a waitress salary?


daddy
 
2014-04-28 02:31:52 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero:  Also...Ross. Didn't like him.


Ross should've been killed off.
 
2014-04-28 02:32:40 PM  

Semper IvXx: Also, of all the stupid things to talk about, this is right up there. The living spaces aren't realistic because...wait for it...they're filming a TV show on a sound stage! They aren't real places with real rent, they're, as they say, enlarged to show detail and to make it possible to film.

Oddly enough they don't make many shows about people to poor to have someplace to live.


i always thought the norman lear shows were about as accurate as possible with the living arrangements
 
2014-04-28 02:33:55 PM  

phalamir: Mr. Coffee Nerves: I still want to know why three surgeons/officers had to share a single tent on M*A*S*H* while Klinger got an entire tent to himself for his wardrobe.

Why did two jag-offs and a complete twat, who between the three of them could give everyone in the camp a compelling reason under the UMCJ to slowly torture them unto death, but the guy who ran the office where all the logistical paperwork originated got his own tent?  Nope, can't think of a single reason.


To make matters more interesting you've got to take into consideration the changes in jobs for Klinger.

If you recall, Radar lived in his office or at least he slept there and Klinger was just a lowly corpsman with his own tent.  I think when Klinger got the promotion to company clerk he moved into the office, giving up his own tent.
 
2014-04-28 02:35:51 PM  

Target Builder: Homer Simpson is pulling in almost $80k?


The article says he's a Nuclear Safety "instructor", which I don't think is right. I think he's head of safety in the plant, which probably requires at least a masters in engineering. Which of course Homer doesn't have but he must have gotten the job through some comical means. The salary is probably about right.
 
2014-04-28 02:37:19 PM  

BizarreMan: phalamir: Mr. Coffee Nerves: I still want to know why three surgeons/officers had to share a single tent on M*A*S*H* while Klinger got an entire tent to himself for his wardrobe.

Why did two jag-offs and a complete twat, who between the three of them could give everyone in the camp a compelling reason under the UMCJ to slowly torture them unto death, but the guy who ran the office where all the logistical paperwork originated got his own tent?  Nope, can't think of a single reason.

To make matters more interesting you've got to take into consideration the changes in jobs for Klinger.

If you recall, Radar lived in his office or at least he slept there and Klinger was just a lowly corpsman with his own tent.  I think when Klinger got the promotion to company clerk he moved into the office, giving up his own tent.


Either way, Klinger was enlisted and as such should have been bunking with two or three other people.
 
2014-04-28 02:39:03 PM  

Trainspotr: Next, someone should figure out how the interior of the Brady house would ever fit inside the exterior shot.


Its obviously a tardis... and full of tards..
 
2014-04-28 02:39:19 PM  

Mugato: Target Builder: Homer Simpson is pulling in almost $80k?

The article says he's a Nuclear Safety "instructor", which I don't think is right. I think he's head of safety in the plant, which probably requires at least a masters in engineering. Which of course Homer doesn't have but he must have gotten the job through some comical means. The salary is probably about right.


if tfa said "instructor" it's wrong...nuclear safety INSPECTOR i do believe is correct.

i can't remember details right now, but i recall it was some sort of open application process when the plant opened, about the time homer was getting out of high school...or something like that. how he got such a seemingly high up job, i really don't recall.
 
2014-04-28 02:39:41 PM  

bungle_jr: jerry, on the show, seemed to be the kind of guy who, no matter how much money he made, had no need for a big fancy house/apartment or most worldly possessions. he was a perpetual bachelor who would rather spend his money outside the house.

in real life, i have no idea what his house is like, but i do know he has a car collection



I know he lives in Manhattan with a wife and two kids, and has a box at the Mets' stadium, whatever that's called now. I'll bet he owns a couple floors of one of those buildings on Central Park.
 
2014-04-28 02:39:54 PM  

bungle_jr: n real life, i have no idea what his house is like, but i do know he has a car collection


Real life Jerry has an internet show where he talks to other comics as they drive around. One episode he picked the guest up in a DeLorean. It broke down during the interview so he used his other one. I don't know if that was a bit or real but just the idea of having one DeLorean is pretty cool.
 
2014-04-28 02:41:06 PM  
I always loved the Honeymooners apartment. The window looked out on an air shaft. There was a cloth covering the space below the kitchen sink. 2 1/2 rooms. It looked reasonable that a bus driver lived there.
 
2014-04-28 02:41:17 PM  

Mugato: And how could they have any Idea how much Seinfeld made?


Weren't they all making about 20 million a season in the end.
 
2014-04-28 02:42:18 PM  

macadamnut: bungle_jr: jerry, on the show, seemed to be the kind of guy who, no matter how much money he made, had no need for a big fancy house/apartment or most worldly possessions. he was a perpetual bachelor who would rather spend his money outside the house.

in real life, i have no idea what his house is like, but i do know he has a car collection


I know he lives in Manhattan with a wife and two kids, and has a box at the Mets' stadium, whatever that's called now. I'll bet he owns a couple floors of one of those buildings on Central Park.


and he could easily own that, as you said. he is quite rich.

i always thought it was refreshing on the show...which i still watch almost daily on tbs...seeing a celebrity (his character had at least minor celeb status) living in such a modest apt., knowing he COULD afford much more, but what's the point...?
 
2014-04-28 02:45:53 PM  
I know it's not a sitcom, but a (pause for gagging) dramedy, but except for Sarah's basement pad and Amber's crack warehouse I have no idea how anyone on "Parenthood" can possibly afford their Berkeley/Bay Area homes.
 
2014-04-28 02:46:26 PM  

bungle_jr: serpent_sky: skozlaw: It was heavily implied numerous times throughout the series that Jerry Seinfeld made considerably more money than you would expect just from looking at his career from the outside. In all likelihood, Jerry was paying only a relatively small fraction of his actual income in rent.

Like when he bought the Cadillac for his father like it was nothing, or never seemed to want for anything,

jerry, on the show, seemed to be the kind of guy who, no matter how much money he made, had no need for a big fancy house/apartment or most worldly possessions. he was a perpetual bachelor who would rather spend his money outside the house.

in real life, i have no idea what his house is like, but i do know he has a car collection

Mid_mo_mad_man: The Cosby show's townhouse always bugged me. How could they afford it? Neither adult seemed to be at thier practice

both the adults were supposedly very successful veterans of their fields...and i recall several episodes where cliff was shown treating patients/delivering babies

Seacop: Mid_mo_mad_man: The Cosby show's townhouse always bugged me. How could they afford it? Neither adult seemed to be at thier practice

I thought Cliff had a home office?

been a while sine i really watched, but i think you're correct

Gig103: How about Penny living across the hall? Even a one-bedroom would be probably 2/3 the $1700 estimate, so $1100/mo on a waitress salary?

daddy


Giggling boobs can really bring in the tips
 
2014-04-28 02:46:29 PM  

bungle_jr: how he got such a seemingly high up job, i really don't recall.


I'm guessing because Mr. Burns doesn't give a shiat. Lenny and Carl don't seem to be Dr. Christmas Jones in the nuclear physics dept either.
 
2014-04-28 02:47:47 PM  

Mugato: bungle_jr: n real life, i have no idea what his house is like, but i do know he has a car collection

Real life Jerry has an internet show where he talks to other comics as they drive around. One episode he picked the guest up in a DeLorean. It broke down during the interview so he used his other one. I don't know if that was a bit or real but just the idea of having one DeLorean is pretty cool.


i still haven't watched that show, shameful as that may be! when i'm sitting bored at the house trying to think of something to watch besides family guy and american dad reruns, i forget to look for that show online!

about the deloreans...delorean.com has many used for sale...most have "$inquire" on the price line, but there are prices from about $31k thru about $54k listed. you can get a "brand new" one, made from never-before-used parts, for something like $75k. so, delorean...not exactly like buying a rolls or bentley
 
2014-04-28 02:47:54 PM  
Jerry Seinfeld only made $7800 a month? Or whatever it was. I thought he was worth millions....
 
2014-04-28 02:48:20 PM  

bungle_jr: macadamnut: bungle_jr: jerry, on the show, seemed to be the kind of guy who, no matter how much money he made, had no need for a big fancy house/apartment or most worldly possessions. he was a perpetual bachelor who would rather spend his money outside the house.

in real life, i have no idea what his house is like, but i do know he has a car collection


I know he lives in Manhattan with a wife and two kids, and has a box at the Mets' stadium, whatever that's called now. I'll bet he owns a couple floors of one of those buildings on Central Park.

and he could easily own that, as you said. he is quite rich.

i always thought it was refreshing on the show...which i still watch almost daily on tbs...seeing a celebrity (his character had at least minor celeb status) living in such a modest apt., knowing he COULD afford much more, but what's the point...?


Just once I would have liked to see him use his bike or his Mac.
 
2014-04-28 02:49:45 PM  

bungle_jr: about the deloreans...delorean.com has many used for sale...most have "$inquire" on the price line, but there are prices from about $31k thru about $54k listed. you can get a "brand new" one, made from never-before-used parts, for something like $75k. so, delorean...not exactly like buying a rolls or bentley


Yeah, I didn't say they were but someone mentioned that he collects cars and I thought that was kind of cool.

/must be hard to get parts for though
 
2014-04-28 02:51:46 PM  

bungle_jr: Mugato: Target Builder: Homer Simpson is pulling in almost $80k?

The article says he's a Nuclear Safety "instructor", which I don't think is right. I think he's head of safety in the plant, which probably requires at least a masters in engineering. Which of course Homer doesn't have but he must have gotten the job through some comical means. The salary is probably about right.

if tfa said "instructor" it's wrong...nuclear safety INSPECTOR i do believe is correct.

i can't remember details right now, but i recall it was some sort of open application process when the plant opened, about the time homer was getting out of high school...or something like that. how he got such a seemingly high up job, i really don't recall.


That was for his original job (handling isotopes). He was promoted in the 3rd episode after complaining about the lack of safety in the plant. Of course I wouldn't be surprised if this promotion came with no raise or pay increase (typical of Mr. Burns), and workplace accidents have doubled every year since Homer got the job, so he probably isn't getting any bonuses.

Plus the author forgot that Abe Simpson sold the old family house to help Homer pay for his (and Homer shipped him off to a retirement home 3 weeks later), so the mortgage is much lower than it would be on a house that isn't paid for.
 
2014-04-28 02:52:26 PM  

macadamnut: bungle_jr: macadamnut: bungle_jr: jerry, on the show, seemed to be the kind of guy who, no matter how much money he made, had no need for a big fancy house/apartment or most worldly possessions. he was a perpetual bachelor who would rather spend his money outside the house.

in real life, i have no idea what his house is like, but i do know he has a car collection


I know he lives in Manhattan with a wife and two kids, and has a box at the Mets' stadium, whatever that's called now. I'll bet he owns a couple floors of one of those buildings on Central Park.

and he could easily own that, as you said. he is quite rich.

i always thought it was refreshing on the show...which i still watch almost daily on tbs...seeing a celebrity (his character had at least minor celeb status) living in such a modest apt., knowing he COULD afford much more, but what's the point...?

Just once I would have liked to see him use his bike or his Mac.


this, too

the model of bicycle hanging on the wall varied...don't know why...but it wasn't always the same bike. and he NEVER rode a bike on the show

and he didn't seem to be the kind of guy who would use a computer. especially likely given the era...not like these days...
 
2014-04-28 02:53:20 PM  

bungle_jr: it MUST be adjusted, because there is NO WAY al bundy pulled in over $1500/month in 1988 dollars


He certainly wouldn't have been as proud of his $5 per week raise (before Kelly got hired as the weather bunny) if that were the case.

scottydoesntknow: And yea, the Jerry one is also dumb. It was established that Jerry is a very successful comedian and made way more than the "average" they go by.


He also had the Bloomingdales executive training program to fall back on.  Or Ed Roidlick.
 
2014-04-28 02:55:02 PM  

Wadded Beef: Crudbucket: Wadded Beef: Wellon Dowd: Today I learned that Mad Men is a sitcom.

DON DRAPER: (Takes sip of yet another drink, furthering his current descent and foreshadowing a future of sadness, isolation and regret)

STUDIO AUDIENCE: AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

It adds a new perspective.


That was...wow...just...wow.


But wait, there's more: Goodfellas (NSFW language)
 
2014-04-28 03:00:23 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: I still want to know why three surgeons/officers had to share a single tent on M*A*S*H* while Klinger got an entire tent to himself for his wardrobe.


neu.mash-4077.info

In all honesty, he needed room for his awesome wardrobe.
 
2014-04-28 03:00:30 PM  

Mugato: bungle_jr: about the deloreans...delorean.com has many used for sale...most have "$inquire" on the price line, but there are prices from about $31k thru about $54k listed. you can get a "brand new" one, made from never-before-used parts, for something like $75k. so, delorean...not exactly like buying a rolls or bentley

Yeah, I didn't say they were but someone mentioned that he collects cars and I thought that was kind of cool.

/must be hard to get parts for though


i know you didn't say it was like getting a rolls or bentley, and i didn't mean to imply you said that...although after i hit "add comment" i thought twice about my comment...so, sorry :)

but apparently there was quite a stockpile of original parts when the dmc company shut down, so i think it's fairly easy to get certain parts. apparently, though, a door is quite difficult to come by...at least for stan smith.

i was just pointing out that for someone with jerry's money and jerry's car collection, 1 delorean would be really a neat collectable, but having 2 wouldn't be outrageous
 
2014-04-28 03:01:08 PM  

scottydoesntknow


bungle_jr: Mugato: Target Builder: Homer Simpson is pulling in almost $80k?

The article says he's a Nuclear Safety "instructor", which I don't think is right. I think he's head of safety in the plant, which probably requires at least a masters in engineering. Which of course Homer doesn't have but he must have gotten the job through some comical means. The salary is probably about right.

if tfa said "instructor" it's wrong...nuclear safety INSPECTOR i do believe is correct.

i can't remember details right now, but i recall it was some sort of open application process when the plant opened, about the time homer was getting out of high school...or something like that. how he got such a seemingly high up job, i really don't recall.

That was for his original job (handling isotopes). He was promoted in the 3rd episode after complaining about the lack of safety in the plant. Of course I wouldn't be surprised if this promotion came with no raise or pay increase (typical of Mr. Burns), and workplace accidents have doubled every year since Homer got the job, so he probably isn't getting any bonuses.


In the episode where Homer finds the big pile of sugar, he tells Marge that he found a dollar. She yells at him that while he was out "earning" that dollar he lost $40 by not going to work, so he must have been making $5/hour.

Unless she was talking about net rather than pre-tax gross, so maybe he was making $7/hour.
 
2014-04-28 03:04:18 PM  
Not a sitcom, but I do wonder how Sherlock manages to afford his flat on Baker Street. Yes, I know, Mrs. Hudson's cutting him a special deal, but still...and in "His Last Vow" we see that she's in debt so...how does that work, exactly?

Even in the books it says that Sherlock is paying her a princely sum for his rooms. Scotland Yard isn't paying him so...how...?
 
2014-04-28 03:05:16 PM  

Mugato


bungle_jr: about the deloreans...delorean.com has many used for sale...most have "$inquire" on the price line, but there are prices from about $31k thru about $54k listed. you can get a "brand new" one, made from never-before-used parts, for something like $75k. so, delorean...not exactly like buying a rolls or bentley

Yeah, I didn't say they were but someone mentioned that he collects cars and I thought that was kind of cool.

/must be hard to get parts for though


It's not as bad as you might think. Here is the episode of Wheeler Dealers where Mike visits the parts warehouse.

That episode was about refurbing a DMC-12. Interesting stuff.
 
2014-04-28 03:07:34 PM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: Gig103: How about Penny living across the hall? Even a one-bedroom would be probably 2/3 the $1700 estimate, so $1100/mo on a waitress salary?

daddy


Giggling Jiggling boobs can really bring in the tips


Took me a second to parse that one...

Mugato: bungle_jr: about the deloreans...delorean.com has many used for sale...most have "$inquire" on the price line, but there are prices from about $31k thru about $54k listed. you can get a "brand new" one, made from never-before-used parts, for something like $75k. so, delorean...not exactly like buying a rolls or bentley

Yeah, I didn't say they were but someone mentioned that he collects cars and I thought that was kind of cool.

/must be hard to get parts for though


Delorean parts are incredibly EASY to get ahold of. Enough parts were produced to make over 30,000, but less than 10,000 got assembled. There's a company in Texas (Delorean Motor Company) that bought EVERYTHING...all the NOS parts, all of the CAD files, blueprints, everything. Any parts that they run out of, they can reproduce to OEM specs or better. They also do full restorations, and Back to the Future conversions, if I remember correctly.
 
2014-04-28 03:07:47 PM  

bungle_jr: Mugato: Target Builder: Homer Simpson is pulling in almost $80k?

The article says he's a Nuclear Safety "instructor", which I don't think is right. I think he's head of safety in the plant, which probably requires at least a masters in engineering. Which of course Homer doesn't have but he must have gotten the job through some comical means. The salary is probably about right.

if tfa said "instructor" it's wrong...nuclear safety INSPECTOR i do believe is correct.

i can't remember details right now, but i recall it was some sort of open application process when the plant opened, about the time homer was getting out of high school...or something like that. how he got such a seemingly high up job, i really don't recall.


IIRC the episode where the plant was going to melt down Smithers and Burns were talking about Homer being hired under Operation Bootstrap. Mr. Burns thanked president Ford for that plan.
 
2014-04-28 03:08:11 PM  

spman: Was it ever explained on Seinfeld how Kramer managed to afford to live in Manhattan despite having seemingly zero income for the majority of the show?


In one episode it was implied that Kramer inherited a bunch of money earlier in his life.  And his apartment was a sublet from Paul Buchman (the lead character on Mad About you) who had apparently been there for quite a while.  It's possible his rent is rather low.

Plus, he's Kramer.
 
2014-04-28 03:09:25 PM  

groppet: IIRC the episode where the plant was going to melt down Smithers and Burns were talking about Homer being hired under Operation Bootstrap. Mr. Burns thanked president Ford for that plan.


www.randomlicious.org
 
2014-04-28 03:11:07 PM  

Yanks_RSJ: groppet: IIRC the episode where the plant was going to melt down Smithers and Burns were talking about Homer being hired under Operation Bootstrap. Mr. Burns thanked president Ford for that plan.

[www.randomlicious.org image 720x480]


To be fair though, we have yet to see another bear since they instituted the bear patrol tax.
 
2014-04-28 03:11:22 PM  

Mugato: bungle_jr: how he got such a seemingly high up job, i really don't recall.

I'm guessing because Mr. Burns doesn't give a shiat. Lenny and Carl don't seem to be Dr. Christmas Jones in the nuclear physics dept either.


Season 1, Episode 3:

Unsatisfied with his own efforts, Homer takes on the biggest danger in Springfield, the nuclear power plant. After Homer rallies people to his cause, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Burns">Mr. Burns decides to end the furor he is creating by offering him a new position as the plant http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inspection">safety inspector, along with a higher salary. Homer, torn between his principles and his livelihood, tearfully tells his followers that they must fight their battles alone from this point on and takes the job.
 
2014-04-28 03:12:35 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: Mid_mo_mad_man: Gig103: How about Penny living across the hall? Even a one-bedroom would be probably 2/3 the $1700 estimate, so $1100/mo on a waitress salary?

daddy


Giggling Jiggling boobs can really bring in the tips

Took me a second to parse that one...

Mugato: bungle_jr: about the deloreans...delorean.com has many used for sale...most have "$inquire" on the price line, but there are prices from about $31k thru about $54k listed. you can get a "brand new" one, made from never-before-used parts, for something like $75k. so, delorean...not exactly like buying a rolls or bentley

Yeah, I didn't say they were but someone mentioned that he collects cars and I thought that was kind of cool.

/must be hard to get parts for though

Delorean parts are incredibly EASY to get ahold of. Enough parts were produced to make over 30,000, but less than 10,000 got assembled. There's a company in Texas (Delorean Motor Company) that bought EVERYTHING...all the NOS parts, all of the CAD files, blueprints, everything. Any parts that they run out of, they can reproduce to OEM specs or better. They also do full restorations, and Back to the Future conversions, if I remember correctly.


Auto correct
 
2014-04-28 03:12:40 PM  
What they're not telling you is that The Homer has been the top-selling car in China and India for ten years running.
 
2014-04-28 03:12:57 PM  

Yanks_RSJ: groppet: IIRC the episode where the plant was going to melt down Smithers and Burns were talking about Homer being hired under Operation Bootstrap. Mr. Burns thanked president Ford for that plan.

[www.randomlicious.org image 720x480]


so, $11/hr. but what season was that? show started in 87, and $11/hr back then was pretty good money.
 
2014-04-28 03:14:10 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: Delorean parts are incredibly EASY to get ahold of


Ok, fair enough. I just based that on the fact that they've been out of production and no other knowledge.

Sin_City_Superhero: They also do full restorations, and Back to the Future conversions


That would be pretty cheesy. And I'd probably do it if I had one. But just the flux capacitor, time circuits and Mr. Fusion. No giant microchip strapped to the hood, that would be tacky.
 
2014-04-28 03:14:16 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: Delorean parts are incredibly EASY to get ahold of. Enough parts were produced to make over 30,000, but less than 10,000 got assembled. There's a company in Texas (Delorean Motor Company) that bought EVERYTHING...all the NOS parts, all of the CAD files, blueprints, everything. Any parts that they run out of, they can reproduce to OEM specs or better. They also do full restorations, and Back to the Future conversions, if I remember correctly.


I have to make a Firefox addon that blocks anybody who mentions this company. I have enough half finished projects to not have a Delorean sitting in my kitchen.
 
2014-04-28 03:15:22 PM  

bungle_jr: so, $11/hr. but what season was that? show started in 87, and $11/hr back then was pretty good money.


That episode aired in 1996.
 
2014-04-28 03:16:35 PM  
img.fark.net

They are way underestimating those salaries.
 
2014-04-28 03:16:45 PM  

bungle_jr: Yanks_RSJ: groppet: IIRC the episode where the plant was going to melt down Smithers and Burns were talking about Homer being hired under Operation Bootstrap. Mr. Burns thanked president Ford for that plan.

[www.randomlicious.org image 720x480]

so, $11/hr. but what season was that? show started in 87, and $11/hr back then was pretty good money.


1996, season 7.
 
2014-04-28 03:17:11 PM  

Mugato: Sin_City_Superhero: Delorean parts are incredibly EASY to get ahold of

Ok, fair enough. I just based that on the fact that they've been out of production and no other knowledge.

Sin_City_Superhero: They also do full restorations, and Back to the Future conversions

That would be pretty cheesy. And I'd probably do it if I had one. But just the flux capacitor, time circuits and Mr. Fusion. No giant microchip strapped to the hood, that would be tacky.


I'm thinking of putting a MrFusion on my Forester.
 
2014-04-28 03:17:28 PM  

Yanks_RSJ: bungle_jr: so, $11/hr. but what season was that? show started in 87, and $11/hr back then was pretty good money.

That episode aired in 1996.


considering springfield is likely in the midwest, where housing prices tend to be cheaper than the coasts and big cities, $11/hr in 1996 would provide a decent lower-middle-class living
 
2014-04-28 03:18:47 PM  
"Sure, everybody loves the show Friends, but, come on, that's not singles reality. In the real singles world you live in an apartment the size of Billy Barty's walk-in closet with three roommates who are flakier than a Greek pastry placed on Wally George's shoulder. Roommates who two weeks into the relationship tell you they spent their rent money on a QVC alabaster statuette of Hermann Goring that they are hollowing into a bong."

-- Dennis Miller, back when he was somewhat funny
 
2014-04-28 03:20:29 PM  

Biff_Steel: [img.fark.net image 568x374]

They are way underestimating those salaries.


It's funny how the retired black couple make way less than anyone else. Doubly funny how everyone in that picture look so put upon and sad, as if they were struggling to get by on $9.50/hr...
 
2014-04-28 03:21:25 PM  

bungle_jr: Yanks_RSJ: bungle_jr: so, $11/hr. but what season was that? show started in 87, and $11/hr back then was pretty good money.

That episode aired in 1996.

considering springfield is likely in the midwest, where housing prices tend to be cheaper than the coasts and big cities, $11/hr in 1996 would provide a decent lower-middle-class living


Yeah, in another episode Homer refers to them as "upper-lower-middle class" types.  And with Abe selling his house and ponying up the down payment (before they shipped him off the old folks home) that mortgage in Pressboard Estates would probably be in their budget.
 
2014-04-28 03:21:53 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: What they're not telling you is that The Homer has been the top-selling car in China and India for ten years running.


Plus the Mr. Sparkle money for the use of his likeness still comes in, I'm sure.  And Mr. Plow is probably busy in winter....
 
2014-04-28 03:23:56 PM  
Penny has been making money starring in fetish films.

i.imgur.com
 
2014-04-28 03:25:11 PM  

Mr_Fabulous: -- Dennis Miller, back when he was somewhat funny


Verbose and almost as literate as he thought he was but funny. Then he had to go all conservative bat shiat insane after 9/11.
 
2014-04-28 03:26:20 PM  

Tr0mBoNe: I have to make a Firefox addon that blocks anybody who mentions this company. I have enough half finished projects to not have a Delorean sitting in my kitchen.


I feel ya. I currently have three, but I'm wrapping up work on my '85 RX-7. Once I sell it, it'll just be the Datsun truck and the Fiero.
 
2014-04-28 03:29:43 PM  

serpent_sky: Mr. Coffee Nerves: What they're not telling you is that The Homer has been the top-selling car in China and India for ten years running.

Plus the Mr. Sparkle money for the use of his likeness still comes in, I'm sure.  And Mr. Plow is probably busy in winter....


Homer had tons of other jobs. He was the police chief, garbage commissioner, Isotopes mascot, monorail conductor just to name a few.
 
2014-04-28 03:29:56 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: Mid_mo_mad_man: Gig103: How about Penny living across the hall? Even a one-bedroom would be probably 2/3 the $1700 estimate, so $1100/mo on a waitress salary?

daddy


Giggling Jiggling boobs can really bring in the tips

Took me a second to parse that one...

Mugato: bungle_jr: about the deloreans...delorean.com has many used for sale...most have "$inquire" on the price line, but there are prices from about $31k thru about $54k listed. you can get a "brand new" one, made from never-before-used parts, for something like $75k. so, delorean...not exactly like buying a rolls or bentley

Yeah, I didn't say they were but someone mentioned that he collects cars and I thought that was kind of cool.

/must be hard to get parts for though

Delorean parts are incredibly EASY to get ahold of. Enough parts were produced to make over 30,000, but less than 10,000 got assembled. There's a company in Texas (Delorean Motor Company) that bought EVERYTHING...all the NOS parts, all of the CAD files, blueprints, everything. Any parts that they run out of, they can reproduce to OEM specs or better. They also do full restorations, and Back to the Future conversions, if I remember correctly.


I think now they even convert DeLoreans to electric cars.
 
2014-04-28 03:31:47 PM  

Mr_Fabulous: "Sure, everybody loves the show Friends, but, come on, that's not singles reality. In the real singles world you live in an apartment the size of Billy Barty's walk-in closet with three roommates who are flakier than a Greek pastry placed on Wally George's shoulder. Roommates who two weeks into the relationship tell you they spent their rent money on a QVC alabaster statuette of Hermann Goring that they are hollowing into a bong."

-- Dennis Miller, back when he was somewhat funny


that isn't even somewhat funny
 
2014-04-28 03:32:05 PM  

The Headless Horseman's Headless Horse: GalFriday: Seacop: Mugato: scottydoesntknow: Monica and Rachel's apartment in Friends was rent-controlled (sublet from her grandmother). Their rent was a fark-ton lower than the $5,000 estimate.

I thought this was going to be the Boobies.

If they were going to do Friends they should have done Chandler and Joey's apartment. It's not as big as the girls' but it's still in a decent part of Manhattan. I don't know what Chandler did but Joey was an out of work actor wasn't he?

And how could they have any Idea how much Seinfeld made?

Chandler is a Transponster

He worked on the WENUS

And nearly the ANUS.


I think it's spelled AENUS.  And eventually, Chandler quit that job and went into advertising.
 
2014-04-28 03:35:19 PM  

Mugato: Target Builder: Homer Simpson is pulling in almost $80k?

The article says he's a Nuclear Safety "instructor", which I don't think is right. I think he's head of safety in the plant, which probably requires at least a masters in engineering. Which of course Homer doesn't have but he must have gotten the job through some comical means. The salary is probably about right.


Burns gave him the job in exchange for him calling off an anti-nuclear protest that threatened to shut down the plant.  It was like the second or third episode of the series, IIRC.
 
2014-04-28 03:37:52 PM  

chitownmike: Mr_Fabulous: "Sure, everybody loves the show Friends, but, come on, that's not singles reality. In the real singles world you live in an apartment the size of Billy Barty's walk-in closet with three roommates who are flakier than a Greek pastry placed on Wally George's shoulder. Roommates who two weeks into the relationship tell you they spent their rent money on a QVC alabaster statuette of Hermann Goring that they are hollowing into a bong."

-- Dennis Miller, back when he was somewhat funny

that isn't even somewhat funny


That's more like nonewhat funny.
 
2014-04-28 03:39:50 PM  

Englebert Slaptyback: Mugato

bungle_jr: about the deloreans...delorean.com has many used for sale...most have "$inquire" on the price line, but there are prices from about $31k thru about $54k listed. you can get a "brand new" one, made from never-before-used parts, for something like $75k. so, delorean...not exactly like buying a rolls or bentley

Yeah, I didn't say they were but someone mentioned that he collects cars and I thought that was kind of cool.

/must be hard to get parts for though


It's not as bad as you might think. Here is the episode of Wheeler Dealers where Mike visits the parts warehouse.

That episode was about refurbing a DMC-12. Interesting stuff.


They have enough parts that they've built DeLoreans from scratch.  The guys in Texas actually bought out DMC when it was in bankruptcy; they are the auto maker at this point.

Jerry Seinfeld made an obscene amount during the last few seasons of the show and then once it went into syndication.  He's a car collector, specifically of Porsches.  He owns a large warehouse building in one of the outer boroughs where he stores his cars.  He's an obsessive collector, with several hundred cars.
 
2014-04-28 03:40:19 PM  

Dr Jack Badofsky: The Headless Horseman's Headless Horse: GalFriday: Seacop: Mugato: scottydoesntknow: Monica and Rachel's apartment in Friends was rent-controlled (sublet from her grandmother). Their rent was a fark-ton lower than the $5,000 estimate.

I thought this was going to be the Boobies.

If they were going to do Friends they should have done Chandler and Joey's apartment. It's not as big as the girls' but it's still in a decent part of Manhattan. I don't know what Chandler did but Joey was an out of work actor wasn't he?

And how could they have any Idea how much Seinfeld made?

Chandler is a Transponster

He worked on the WENUS

And nearly the ANUS.

I think it's spelled AENUS.  And eventually, Chandler quit that job and went into advertising.


Oops, I was wrong about that.
 
2014-04-28 03:41:40 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: Tr0mBoNe: I have to make a Firefox addon that blocks anybody who mentions this company. I have enough half finished projects to not have a Delorean sitting in my kitchen.

I feel ya. I currently have three, but I'm wrapping up work on my '85 RX-7. Once I sell it, it'll just be the Datsun truck and the Fiero.


Fiero, LOL!
 
2014-04-28 03:45:32 PM  

max_pooper: serpent_sky: Mr. Coffee Nerves: What they're not telling you is that The Homer has been the top-selling car in China and India for ten years running.

Plus the Mr. Sparkle money for the use of his likeness still comes in, I'm sure.  And Mr. Plow is probably busy in winter....

Homer had tons of other jobs. He was the police chief, garbage commissioner, Isotopes mascot, monorail conductor just to name a few.


meanwhile one of his former coworkers could barely affort an efficiency suite above a bowling alley and below another bowling alley. since springfield has only one, he must have had a long commute.
 
2014-04-28 03:45:53 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: I still want to know why three surgeons/officers had to share a single tent on M*A*S*H* while Klinger got an entire tent to himself for his wardrobe.


Maybe they thought the cross dressing impulse was contagious? It was the 50's, after all...
 
2014-04-28 03:46:55 PM  
Homer also owns the Denver Broncos as one of his severance packages. from the year before they started winning superbowls.
 
2014-04-28 03:47:01 PM  

mcreadyblue: Sin_City_Superhero: Tr0mBoNe: I have to make a Firefox addon that blocks anybody who mentions this company. I have enough half finished projects to not have a Delorean sitting in my kitchen.

I feel ya. I currently have three, but I'm wrapping up work on my '85 RX-7. Once I sell it, it'll just be the Datsun truck and the Fiero.

Fiero, LOL!


Those are actually neat little cars!  Stereo speakers in the headrests, they weren't bad on gas, the GTs were sporty little things (for a "commuter car"), and they looked good (the later ones moreso).  I'd love to own a 2M6 or a GT with a stick shift.

Btw, congrats to Subaru for showing a commercial with a model with a standard (dad is teaching his twins how to drive it).

/Save the manuals!
 
2014-04-28 03:47:41 PM  
And probably his brother Herb sends him care packages whenever he's not broke
 
2014-04-28 03:47:52 PM  

serpent_sky: I've also wondered why Leonard and Sheldon need to be roommates, with Leonard dealing with all of Sheldon's quirks, if he could have a place just like Penny's on his own.


Because he needs the company, even if it's coming from a neurotic. On top of that, he probably shudders at the thought of Sheldon trying to function on his own. Despite the quirks, they're still friends.

--OR--

Short answer: It's in the script.
 
2014-04-28 03:51:31 PM  

clkeagle: Yeah, Friends was an odd choice for the article. They mentioned the big apartment being rent controlled several times per season, and Chandler said a few times that he could easily afford to live alone.

I'm also not convinced the Bundy house was nearly as large as TFA suggests. Perspective on the sound stage made the living room and kitchen look big, but the dialog always suggested otherwise. The upstairs bedrooms all seemed to be pretty small. I never imagined it to be more than 1100 sq ft or so.


Well, I can tell you from first hand experience that two people just can't sleep in Kelly Bundy's twin bed...
 
2014-04-28 03:53:05 PM  

Trainspotr: Next, someone should figure out how the interior of the Brady house would ever fit inside the exterior shot.


I read a great article a few years back about how for an architect, Mike Brady had designed a shiatty house...
 
2014-04-28 03:56:24 PM  
The only apartment-dwellers on TV who lived in one even remotely resembling those most
Americans live in were Ralph and Alice Kramden.
 
2014-04-28 03:56:55 PM  
Enough about that, I want to know how a bartender and psychology student can afford a $500k+ house on House Hunters.
 
2014-04-28 03:57:31 PM  

bungle_jr: Wellon Dowd: Today I learned that Mad Men is a sitcom.

and apparently set in 2014, according to the pay/rent

unless the numbers are adjusted for inflation, and the "author" of this piece failed to mention that somewhere

it MUST be adjusted, because there is NO WAY al bundy pulled in over $1500/month in 1988 dollars


I can't figure out if you meant that's too low or too high.  Because that seems right to me.  That would be about $36K today, which is what I'd expect for a shoe salesman in the Chicago area.
 
2014-04-28 03:58:12 PM  

squegeebooo: Sanguine Dawn: Wellon Dowd: Today I learned that Mad Men is a sitcom.

THIS


Also: No one else in the Full House household paid for rent?!?

Also This.  I thought that's why there was two 'uncles' living there with them, to help cover the rent/mortgage


Jessie was the girls' biological uncle.  Joey was Danny's wacky best friend.  They moved in with Danny after his wife was killed by a drunk driver, to help raise the girls.

Funny that the three of them are RL BFFs.  http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1wifo2/john_stamos_dave_coulier _ and_bob_saget_here_the/
 
2014-04-28 04:07:57 PM  
There is no way Al Bundy earned that much. Minimum wag shoe salesman who clearly doesn't work 40 hours per week? NO WAY.
 
2014-04-28 04:08:33 PM  
wage
 
2014-04-28 04:09:37 PM  
The Brady Bunch was all kinds of messed up.  Architect living in a poorly designed home, stay at home mom with a live-in maid, kids sharing bedrooms in said poorly designed home.  If they couldn't afford a bigger home, maybe they could lose the maid and Mrs. Brady could do her own damn cooking.
 
2014-04-28 04:10:49 PM  

The Banana Thug: bungle_jr: Wellon Dowd: Today I learned that Mad Men is a sitcom.

and apparently set in 2014, according to the pay/rent

unless the numbers are adjusted for inflation, and the "author" of this piece failed to mention that somewhere

it MUST be adjusted, because there is NO WAY al bundy pulled in over $1500/month in 1988 dollars

I can't figure out if you meant that's too low or too high.  Because that seems right to me.  That would be about $36K today, which is what I'd expect for a shoe salesman in the Chicago area.


AT BEST in today's dollars, a minimum wage shoe salesman would make $1176 a month. In 1988, he would have made more like $800 per month at minimum wage.
 
2014-04-28 04:13:15 PM  
Ted Mosby split his rent with Lily and Marshall, or with Robin, or when Barney (IIRC, because Swarley wanted a place to screw chicks he picked up at McClaren's). I think Ted only had a few weeks in which he lived alone, after Robin moved out.
 
2014-04-28 04:17:10 PM  

peacheslatour: The Brady Bunch was all kinds of messed up.  Architect living in a poorly designed home, stay at home mom with a live-in maid, kids sharing bedrooms in said poorly designed home.  If they couldn't afford a bigger home, maybe they could lose the maid and Mrs. Brady could do her own damn cooking.


Somewhere there's an SNL House Hunters spoof where Mike and Carol see a couple of houses that would suit their family, then pick the one with two bedrooms and one bathroom for six kids.

Although they did apparently make the attic taller between the episode where Greg moves into Mike's office and the one where he moves into the attic.
 
2014-04-28 04:18:32 PM  
But the Simpsons also get sued all the time with an average settlement of $68,000.
 
2014-04-28 04:19:54 PM  

Nix Nightbird: I can't figure out if you meant that's too low or too high.  Because that seems right to me.  That would be about $36K today, which is what I'd expect for a shoe salesman in the Chicago area.

AT BEST in today's dollars, a minimum wage shoe salesman would make $1176 a month. In 1988, he would have made more like $800 per month at minimum wage.


Most shoe salespeople are paid on commission. Someone who really hustles can actually make decent money selling shoes. Working full-time $36K is easily doable.
 
2014-04-28 04:21:21 PM  

yakmans_dad: I always loved the Honeymooners apartment. The window looked out on an air shaft. There was a cloth covering the space below the kitchen sink. 2 1/2 rooms. It looked reasonable that a bus driver lived there.


This is why I could never watch that show.  God that apartment was depressing.  I don't Know why Alice didn't get a job.  I wouldn't be able to hang around that dreary place all day long.
 
2014-04-28 04:22:10 PM  

mcreadyblue: Fiero, LOL!


Can you explain your humor or disdain (I can't tell which one you are exhibiting)? Is there a problem with the Fiero?

Dr Jack Badofsky: Those are actually neat little cars! Stereo speakers in the headrests, they weren't bad on gas, the GTs were sporty little things (for a "commuter car"), and they looked good (the later ones moreso). I'd love to own a 2M6 or a GT with a stick shift.


Mine's an '86 GT, with a '95 Camaro engine (3.4 Liter V-6) and a 4-speed automatic transmission out of a '93 Bonneville. I need to raise it back up some because the previous owner lowered it too much. But it'll pass anything except a gas station...
 
2014-04-28 04:24:49 PM  

Nix Nightbird: AT BEST in today's dollars, a minimum wage shoe salesman would make $1176 a month. In 1988, he would have made more like $800 per month at minimum wage


Married With Children was comically unrealistic, even by sitcom standards. Al being a shoe salesman was more of a running joke than something to be analyzed for realism.
 
2014-04-28 04:27:08 PM  

Mugato: bungle_jr: n real life, i have no idea what his house is like, but i do know he has a car collection

Real life Jerry has an internet show where he talks to other comics as they drive around. One episode he picked the guest up in a DeLorean. It broke down during the interview so he used his other one. I don't know if that was a bit or real but just the idea of having one DeLorean is pretty cool.


Those aren't his cars he's driving on CiCGC.
 
2014-04-28 04:27:12 PM  

foo monkey: squegeebooo: Sanguine Dawn: Wellon Dowd: Today I learned that Mad Men is a sitcom.

THIS


Also: No one else in the Full House household paid for rent?!?

Also This.  I thought that's why there was two 'uncles' living there with them, to help cover the rent/mortgage

Jessie was the girls' biological uncle.  Joey was Danny's wacky best friend.  They moved in with Danny after his wife was killed by a drunk driver, to help raise the girls.

Funny that the three of them are RL BFFs.  http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1wifo2/john_stamos_dave_coulier _ and_bob_saget_here_the/


Right, I was just saying that the chart should have shown combined income from the three adults in the house(and then 4 once Jessie's wife/GF whatever moved in), not just Saget's income, for showing how un-affordable it was.
 
2014-04-28 04:28:41 PM  

spman: Was it ever explained on Seinfeld how Kramer managed to afford to live in Manhattan despite having seemingly zero income for the majority of the show?


Haha... please.
 
2014-04-28 04:29:13 PM  

Wellon Dowd: GalFriday: I also saw an episode of Big Bang where they found like three months worth of uncashed paychecks of Sheldon's in a desk drawer.  How is he paying bills if he hadn't cashed a paycheck in 3 months?

Paychecks? I haven't been handed an actual paycheck in over 27 years.


The customers just leave the cash on the bedside table, right?

/popped into my head
/had to get out
 
2014-04-28 04:35:29 PM  

Mikey1969: clkeagle: Yeah, Friends was an odd choice for the article. They mentioned the big apartment being rent controlled several times per season, and Chandler said a few times that he could easily afford to live alone.

I'm also not convinced the Bundy house was nearly as large as TFA suggests. Perspective on the sound stage made the living room and kitchen look big, but the dialog always suggested otherwise. The upstairs bedrooms all seemed to be pretty small. I never imagined it to be more than 1100 sq ft or so.

Well, I can tell you from first hand experience that two people just can't sleep in Kelly Bundy's twin bed...


Dont forget they had 3 bathrooms too. One in Peg and Als room, one in the hall for the kids and the one Al built in the garage.
 
2014-04-28 04:44:54 PM  

groppet: Mikey1969: clkeagle: Yeah, Friends was an odd choice for the article. They mentioned the big apartment being rent controlled several times per season, and Chandler said a few times that he could easily afford to live alone.

I'm also not convinced the Bundy house was nearly as large as TFA suggests. Perspective on the sound stage made the living room and kitchen look big, but the dialog always suggested otherwise. The upstairs bedrooms all seemed to be pretty small. I never imagined it to be more than 1100 sq ft or so.

Well, I can tell you from first hand experience that two people just can't sleep in Kelly Bundy's twin bed...

Dont forget they had 3 bathrooms too. One in Peg and Als room, one in the hall for the kids and the one Al built in the garage.


I'd forgotten about that episode... That was awesome, but I can't remember the name of his miracle toilet, the CrapMaster 200 or something.
 
2014-04-28 04:46:33 PM  
All I learned from that infographic is that Illinois was home to the awesome sitcom families.
 
2014-04-28 04:52:00 PM  

Telos: spman: Was it ever explained on Seinfeld how Kramer managed to afford to live in Manhattan despite having seemingly zero income for the majority of the show?

Haha... please.


You forget all three guys are based on actual people, Jerry on himself George on Larry David and Kramer on Kenny Kramer who was their neighbor and they couldn't answer that question in real life living next to the guy so
 
2014-04-28 04:53:00 PM  
In what universe does a construction worker and a waitress living in bumfark Lanford Il. make a combined income of $5,300. a month in the 1990's?
 
2014-04-28 04:55:51 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: mcreadyblue: Fiero, LOL!

Can you explain your humor or disdain (I can't tell which one you are exhibiting)? Is there a problem with the Fiero?

Dr Jack Badofsky: Those are actually neat little cars! Stereo speakers in the headrests, they weren't bad on gas, the GTs were sporty little things (for a "commuter car"), and they looked good (the later ones moreso). I'd love to own a 2M6 or a GT with a stick shift.

Mine's an '86 GT, with a '95 Camaro engine (3.4 Liter V-6) and a 4-speed automatic transmission out of a '93 Bonneville. I need to raise it back up some because the previous owner lowered it too much. But it'll pass anything except a gas station...


Problem?

I seem to remember it was a basket case of engine and electrical issues. Typical poorly built GM product of the 80's. Never thought of it being a collectors car.
 
2014-04-28 04:57:03 PM  

eeyore102: Not a sitcom, but I do wonder how Sherlock manages to afford his flat on Baker Street. Yes, I know, Mrs. Hudson's cutting him a special deal, but still...and in "His Last Vow" we see that she's in debt so...how does that work, exactly?

Even in the books it says that Sherlock is paying her a princely sum for his rooms. Scotland Yard isn't paying him so...how...?


He makes extra scratch from the private clients he and John take on.
 
2014-04-28 04:58:15 PM  

Mikey1969: I'd forgotten about that episode... That was awesome, but I can't remember the name of his miracle toilet, the CrapMaster 200 or something.


It's a Fergusson
 
2014-04-28 05:00:54 PM  

Neeek: They think a local TV host in San Francisco makes $96k? Hmm. Seems low.


Has San Fran always been *that* expensive, even pre-tech industry.

Also, in Full House he has 2 other adults living there who are probably paying token rent or with free babysitting, it isn't mentioned in the graph.

Considering his wife died, he could have paid off the house with her life insurance.
 
2014-04-28 05:10:22 PM  

peacheslatour: The Brady Bunch was all kinds of messed up.  Architect living in a poorly designed home, stay at home mom with a live-in maid, kids sharing bedrooms in said poorly designed home.  If they couldn't afford a bigger home, maybe they could lose the maid and Mrs. Brady could do her own damn cooking.


I don't even feel like the paid Alice.  She was like 24/7 slave labor.  They sometimes acted like she was part of the family, but she had to wear a uniform, was constantly catering to their every whim, and what the hell did Carol Brady do all day, considering she didn't work?

I have a broken wrist and can't safely drive, and even I can clean my apartment with my (non-dominant) left hand.
 
2014-04-28 05:14:55 PM  

Gary-L: BizarreMan: phalamir: Mr. Coffee Nerves: I still want to know why three surgeons/officers had to share a single tent on M*A*S*H* while Klinger got an entire tent to himself for his wardrobe.

Why did two jag-offs and a complete twat, who between the three of them could give everyone in the camp a compelling reason under the UMCJ to slowly torture them unto death, but the guy who ran the office where all the logistical paperwork originated got his own tent?  Nope, can't think of a single reason.

To make matters more interesting you've got to take into consideration the changes in jobs for Klinger.

If you recall, Radar lived in his office or at least he slept there and Klinger was just a lowly corpsman with his own tent.  I think when Klinger got the promotion to company clerk he moved into the office, giving up his own tent.

Either way, Klinger was enlisted and as such should have been bunking with two or three other people.


Maybe Klinger hustled a requisition for a pare tent from the Army and just put it up? Kinda makes sense.
 
2014-04-28 05:16:12 PM  

serpent_sky: I don't even feel like the paid Alice.


I think she got paid in free "meat" from the butcher, if you know what I mean...
 
2014-04-28 05:18:54 PM  

Wellon Dowd: Penny has been making money starring in fetish films.

[i.imgur.com image 145x428]


I would help her pay for her apartment if it came with "benefits".
 
2014-04-28 05:20:27 PM  

groppet: Dont forget they had 3 bathrooms too. One in Peg and Als room, one in the hall for the kids and the one Al built in the garage.


From Dump of My Own:

Al: Why did we buy a house with only one bathroom?

Peggy: Because all the other houses in our price range were on fire. Except for that lovely house with no kitchen that I wanted.
 
2014-04-28 05:21:29 PM  

shortymac: Neeek: They think a local TV host in San Francisco makes $96k? Hmm. Seems low.

Has San Fran always been *that* expensive, even pre-tech industry.

Also, in Full House he has 2 other adults living there who are probably paying token rent or with free babysitting, it isn't mentioned in the graph.

Considering his wife died, he could have paid off the house with her life insurance.


I remember San Fran being considered expensive back in the 80's...
 
2014-04-28 05:27:07 PM  

Gary-L: BizarreMan: phalamir: Mr. Coffee Nerves: I still want to know why three surgeons/officers had to share a single tent on M*A*S*H* while Klinger got an entire tent to himself for his wardrobe.

Why did two jag-offs and a complete twat, who between the three of them could give everyone in the camp a compelling reason under the UMCJ to slowly torture them unto death, but the guy who ran the office where all the logistical paperwork originated got his own tent?  Nope, can't think of a single reason.

To make matters more interesting you've got to take into consideration the changes in jobs for Klinger.

If you recall, Radar lived in his office or at least he slept there and Klinger was just a lowly corpsman with his own tent.  I think when Klinger got the promotion to company clerk he moved into the office, giving up his own tent.

Either way, Klinger was enlisted and as such should have been bunking with two or three other people.


My personal theory is that when they were handing out tent assignments, somebody realized they could put the complete shiats in one tent.  This then left extra tent spaces in the camp, and Klinger just came out on top with his own tent.  Kinda like how sometimes you can score a dorm room without a roommate due to planning snafus
 
2014-04-28 05:32:46 PM  

Soulcatcher: eeyore102: Not a sitcom, but I do wonder how Sherlock manages to afford his flat on Baker Street. Yes, I know, Mrs. Hudson's cutting him a special deal, but still...and in "His Last Vow" we see that she's in debt so...how does that work, exactly?

Even in the books it says that Sherlock is paying her a princely sum for his rooms. Scotland Yard isn't paying him so...how...?

He makes extra scratch from the private clients he and John take on.


Yup. While they move in together for reasons of economy and a good address, in the books, they're pretty much set from "A Scandal in Bohemia" on, as the king pays Sherlock handsomely. Later on, when Watson comes back to work on cases, he says that he can leave his practice on Harley St for days at a time.

In the new Sherlock series, the explanation is that Mrs Hudson is willing to rent to the two of them at well below market rate because Sherlock got her husband convicted and executed in Florida. Also, Baker St is less desirable as a place to live than it was a century ago.
 
2014-04-28 05:37:39 PM  

dwade: I wanna know how Rick affords the rent on a whole prison on a cops salary.


Plus, he seemed to have a ton of gardeners milling around the yard.
 
2014-04-28 05:48:23 PM  

Dwight_Yeast: Soulcatcher: eeyore102: Not a sitcom, but I do wonder how Sherlock manages to afford his flat on Baker Street. Yes, I know, Mrs. Hudson's cutting him a special deal, but still...and in "His Last Vow" we see that she's in debt so...how does that work, exactly?

Even in the books it says that Sherlock is paying her a princely sum for his rooms. Scotland Yard isn't paying him so...how...?

He makes extra scratch from the private clients he and John take on.

Yup. While they move in together for reasons of economy and a good address, in the books, they're pretty much set from "A Scandal in Bohemia" on, as the king pays Sherlock handsomely. Later on, when Watson comes back to work on cases, he says that he can leave his practice on Harley St for days at a time.

In the new Sherlock series, the explanation is that Mrs Hudson is willing to rent to the two of them at well below market rate because Sherlock got her husband convicted and executed in Florida. Also, Baker St is less desirable as a place to live than it was a century ago.


I just looked (because I was curious) and a 2 br baker street apartment can go for 1 1/2 million pounds. Less desirable? Who knows. But crazy expensive.
 
2014-04-28 05:49:13 PM  

imfallen_angel: Mikey1969: I'd forgotten about that episode... That was awesome, but I can't remember the name of his miracle toilet, the CrapMaster 200 or something.

It's a Fergusson


BAWOOOOOOOOSH!
 
2014-04-28 05:52:06 PM  

Sanguine Dawn: Wellon Dowd: Today I learned that Mad Men is a sitcom.

THIS


Also: No one else in the Full House household paid for rent?!?


Didn't all three guys live there, so shouldn't have all their income been reflected?
 
2014-04-28 05:57:37 PM  

yakmans_dad: I just looked (because I was curious) and a 2 br baker street apartment can go for 1 1/2 million pounds. Less desirable? Who knows. But crazy expensive.


That sound about right.  Everything within the London ring road is amazingly expensive.  From what I've seen trolling Google Street View, it's mostly commercial these days (the site of 221b, if it existed is a large office building, though I think the pub across the street has claimed the address).  They actually shoot the show on what's considered the "run down" section of Baker St.
 
2014-04-28 05:58:39 PM  

Englebert Slaptyback: Mugato

bungle_jr: about the deloreans...delorean.com has many used for sale...most have "$inquire" on the price line, but there are prices from about $31k thru about $54k listed. you can get a "brand new" one, made from never-before-used parts, for something like $75k. so, delorean...not exactly like buying a rolls or bentley

Yeah, I didn't say they were but someone mentioned that he collects cars and I thought that was kind of cool.

/must be hard to get parts for though


It's not as bad as you might think. Here is the episode of Wheeler Dealers where Mike visits the parts warehouse.

That episode was about refurbing a DMC-12. Interesting stuff.

Awesome, someone actually referencing Wheeler Dealers. Really only one of the only Car Refurbish/Repair shows I really enjoy. No ginned up family drama. Just Ed giving a brief overview of how these things are done and he manages to make it interesting without looking like a total jackass like every other show on Discovery or Speed. Its one of the very few shows I miss since moving to streaming only.
 
2014-04-28 06:00:58 PM  

Dwight_Yeast: Soulcatcher: eeyore102: Not a sitcom, but I do wonder how Sherlock manages to afford his flat on Baker Street. Yes, I know, Mrs. Hudson's cutting him a special deal, but still...and in "His Last Vow" we see that she's in debt so...how does that work, exactly?

Even in the books it says that Sherlock is paying her a princely sum for his rooms. Scotland Yard isn't paying him so...how...?

He makes extra scratch from the private clients he and John take on.

Yup. While they move in together for reasons of economy and a good address, in the books, they're pretty much set from "A Scandal in Bohemia" on, as the king pays Sherlock handsomely. Later on, when Watson comes back to work on cases, he says that he can leave his practice on Harley St for days at a time.

In the new Sherlock series, the explanation is that Mrs Hudson is willing to rent to the two of them at well below market rate because Sherlock got her husband convicted and executed in Florida. Also, Baker St is less desirable as a place to live than it was a century ago.


In most adaptations Sherlock is independently wealthy.

I assume a similar situation in the BBC Sherlock even though it isn't outright stated. (Haven't seen all the episodes)
 
2014-04-28 06:01:11 PM  

Seacop: Mugato: scottydoesntknow: Monica and Rachel's apartment in Friends was rent-controlled (sublet from her grandmother). Their rent was a fark-ton lower than the $5,000 estimate.

I thought this was going to be the Boobies.

If they were going to do Friends they should have done Chandler and Joey's apartment. It's not as big as the girls' but it's still in a decent part of Manhattan. I don't know what Chandler did but Joey was an out of work actor wasn't he?

And how could they have any Idea how much Seinfeld made?

Chandler is a Transponster


That's not even a worrrrrrrrrrd!
 
2014-04-28 06:07:01 PM  

Semper IvXx: Also, of all the stupid things to talk about, this is right up there. The living spaces aren't realistic because...wait for it...they're filming a TV show on a sound stage! They aren't real places with real rent, they're, as they say, enlarged to show detail and to make it possible to film.

Oddly enough they don't make many shows about people to poor to have someplace to live.


When I was little, I thought the Ricardos must be really poor because they lived in such a small place with a tiny kitchen. Then I grew up and found out about rents in the the Village. Even back then, that was a huge apartment for anyone who wasn't stinking rich. Of course, the Honeymooners apartment was my idea of a hovel.
 
2014-04-28 06:08:42 PM  

Mikey1969: shortymac: Neeek: They think a local TV host in San Francisco makes $96k? Hmm. Seems low.

Has San Fran always been *that* expensive, even pre-tech industry.

Also, in Full House he has 2 other adults living there who are probably paying token rent or with free babysitting, it isn't mentioned in the graph.

Considering his wife died, he could have paid off the house with her life insurance.

I remember San Fran being considered expensive back in the 80's...


Yeah. SF was a major financial center long before the tech boom. I remember the papers doing articles on the most expensive cities to live in when I was a kid, and SF was always at or near the top. It was the only one on that list that also routinely made the nicest places to live lists, if memory serves.
 
2014-04-28 06:11:48 PM  

Dwight_Yeast: yakmans_dad: I just looked (because I was curious) and a 2 br baker street apartment can go for 1 1/2 million pounds. Less desirable? Who knows. But crazy expensive.

That sound about right.  Everything within the London ring road is amazingly expensive.  From what I've seen trolling Google Street View, it's mostly commercial these days (the site of 221b, if it existed is a large office building, though I think the pub across the street has claimed the address).  They actually shoot the show on what's considered the "run down" section of Baker St.


Slight correction: they're shooting on Gower St, which is about a mile away from Baker St, and the areas around train stations are almost always a bit run down in Europe.

The north end of Baker St, which is where 221 would be is right near Regent Park, which justifies the high prices.
 
2014-04-28 06:30:54 PM  

burnvictim: Awesome, someone actually referencing Wheeler Dealers. Really only one of the only Car Refurbish/Repair shows I really enjoy. No ginned up family drama. Just Ed giving a brief overview of how these things are done and he manages to make it interesting without looking like a total jackass like every other show on Discovery or Speed.


I've been watching Wheeler Dealers since they started airing it in the states. If you like the lack of artificial drama in Wheeler Dealers, you'd probably also like Powerblock on Spike TV. It's 4 30-minute shows (with various specialties (off-road, American muscle cars, trucks, etc), and NO DRAMA. Just informative how-to stuff. I get it here in Vegas on Sunday mornings (9:00am-11:00am) on Spike TV, but you can probably find them on Netflix, or Hulu or something...
 
2014-04-28 06:33:32 PM  

burnvictim


Awesome, someone actually referencing Wheeler Dealers. Really only one of the only Car Refurbish/Repair shows I really enjoy. No ginned up family drama. Just Ed giving a brief overview of how these things are done and he manages to make it interesting without looking like a total jackass like every other show on Discovery or Speed. Its one of the very few shows I miss since moving to streaming only.


Lots of episodes available on Youtube. :-)

I really like the show precisely for the reason you mentioned: no drama-conflict foolishness. Mike has a sales-y vibe but it's not annoying, and Edd explains the repairs quite clearly. It's a collaborative environment and they work on some nifty cars (like the Isetta). Good stuff.
 
2014-04-28 06:37:38 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: serpent_sky: I don't even feel like the paid Alice.

I think she got paid in free "meat" from the butcher, if you know what I mean...


The "working for free" joke was mentioned in the Brady Bunch movie. Alice apparently worked for room and board. She had a very nice place to live, a family to care for, a TV, a groovy record player, her own bathroom (allegedly) and plenty of free food because it was on the Brady budget for a family of 8-10 people (depending what season it was).

She was also "part of the family" and went with them on vacations. When was the last time you heard of any middle-class family bringing their maid on vacation with them?
 
2014-04-28 06:43:24 PM  

bungle_jr: i still haven't watched that show, shameful as that may be! when i'm sitting bored at the house trying to think of something to watch besides family guy and american dad reruns, i forget to look for that show online!


Check out the original: Carpool with Robert Llewellyn.
 
2014-04-28 06:47:58 PM  

Nix Nightbird: Sin_City_Superhero: serpent_sky: I don't even feel like the paid Alice.

I think she got paid in free "meat" from the butcher, if you know what I mean...

The "working for free" joke was mentioned in the Brady Bunch movie. Alice apparently worked for room and board. She had a very nice place to live, a family to care for, a TV, a groovy record player, her own bathroom (allegedly) and plenty of free food because it was on the Brady budget for a family of 8-10 people (depending what season it was).

She was also "part of the family" and went with them on vacations. When was the last time you heard of any middle-class family bringing their maid on vacation with them?


1935.

The show, which was set in the 1970s was really about an upper-middle class family before WWII.  Look at houses and apartments build in the suburbs between WWI and WWII and you'll see a maids room off the kitchen.  This was really scaling down, as before WWI the same family would have had three or four servants.
 
2014-04-28 06:50:38 PM  

Mikey1969: Trainspotr: Next, someone should figure out how the interior of the Brady house would ever fit inside the exterior shot.

I read a great article a few years back about how for an architect, Mike Brady had designed a shiatty house...


As an Architect, (a) we don't get paid enough to afford to build a house for ourselves and (b) we'd never be happy with what we come up with, and would not bother building anything.


on the flip side:

Ted Mosby only pulling in $4,900 a month in Manhattan? He's getting boned. Our salaries are lagging, but a 30-ish architect should be making more in this city.  If that is his salary based on his time as a professor, that might be closer to reality if he is only an adjunct/non-tenured.
 
2014-04-28 06:55:38 PM  
$4500/mo for 1000sq/ft? What kind of idiot pays that much?
 
2014-04-28 07:00:24 PM  

serpent_sky: No building in NYC has a huge, gorgeous spread out apartment like the girls and then that little dingy one across the hall.


But it happens.

One way it could be is that the girls apartment is at a building setback and its a 'pethouse' floor while the boys side continues higher.

Another might be that the boys apartment was once part of a bigger apartment that got sub-divided into smaller units, and they have one of them ((the other side being in the foreground of the hall we never see, at/behind the camera).

You also get developers who build mixed-floors, and are programmed for matching % marketshare of current trends (70% 2BR, 20% 1BR, 10% studio, for example).

Yet still, you get some conditions in some really old buildings were large apartments had 'maid quarters' that were adjacent, but times change and nobody keeps live-ins anymore, so that unit gets rented out separately.

There are some wacky-ass floor plans in this city, especially in older buildings.
 
2014-04-28 07:04:38 PM  

LemSkroob: Mikey1969: Trainspotr: Next, someone should figure out how the interior of the Brady house would ever fit inside the exterior shot.

I read a great article a few years back about how for an architect, Mike Brady had designed a shiatty house...

As an Architect, (a) we don't get paid enough to afford to build a house for ourselves and (b) we'd never be happy with what we come up with, and would not bother building anything.


on the flip side:

Ted Mosby only pulling in $4,900 a month in Manhattan? He's getting boned. Our salaries are lagging, but a 30-ish architect should be making more in this city.  If that is his salary based on his time as a professor, that might be closer to reality if he is only an adjunct/non-tenured.


The thing that has always mystified me about being an architect is where do you start? Do the elevations get done before the foundation?

I could totally get into studying architecture though I love cool buildings and Art Deco is one of my favorite things in the world..
 
2014-04-28 07:09:37 PM  
During the run of Married With Children I remember a writer stating that the house was supposed to be located in Hoffman Estates, Il. A bundy comic book stated that the house was in Schaumburg, the next town over.
 
2014-04-28 07:12:17 PM  
How did Beavis and Butthead have a house, much less a TV with cable? I suppose you could reason that they are squatters, or the house belongs to one of their mothers who may be in prison and has the bills on auto pay from an account that's receiving welfare deposits or something. How come DCF never bothered to step in to do anything about two teenagers living alone in a house together?
 
2014-04-28 07:13:45 PM  
Your clever circley infographic sucks and is hard to read.

I know you think bar graphs are "boring" because they can be made with Excel instead of Illustrator, but we still use them 200 years after they were invented because they're farking GOOD.
 
2014-04-28 07:26:12 PM  

luidprand: You know, that always bothered me, until I found out that New York is the most racially segregated city in America.


May be true, but even New Yorkers who live in one racial enclave have to travel through or to other enclaves regularly.  My subway commute traverses Brooklyn Chinatown, Yuppie Slope, The Mall White People Used To Go To, Manhattan Chinatown, NYUville, and Gaytown every day.

I guess I can't complain when the "2 Broke Girls" approach to diversity seems to be the other option, wherein almost everyone non-white is a shallow racial stereotype.
 
2014-04-28 07:41:49 PM  

poot_rootbeer: luidprand: You know, that always bothered me, until I found out that New York is the most racially segregated city in America.

May be true, but even New Yorkers who live in one racial enclave have to travel through or to other enclaves regularly.  My subway commute traverses Brooklyn Chinatown, Yuppie Slope, The Mall White People Used To Go To, Manhattan Chinatown, NYUville, and Gaytown every day.

I guess I can't complain when the "2 Broke Girls" approach to diversity seems to be the other option, wherein almost everyone non-white is a shallow racial stereotype.


your train makes a loop and hits Chinatown twice?
 
2014-04-28 07:42:08 PM  
Bruce Wayne inherited Wayne Manor and probably has deferred property taxes because of all the charity stuff he does in Gotham City, including hosting glad-handed fundraisers for candidates for municipal, state, and federal governments, as well as the police. The house is probably also on the New Jersey state register of historic places, so the state is basically paying him to live there.

Rich people...sheesh...
 
2014-04-28 07:51:40 PM  

chitownmike: your train makes a loop and hits Chinatown twice?


NYC has two Chinatowns: one in Manhattan (where you pay a fortune to live in a tiny box) and one in Brooklyn.
 
2014-04-28 07:59:44 PM  

Englebert Slaptyback: burnvictim

Awesome, someone actually referencing Wheeler Dealers. Really only one of the only Car Refurbish/Repair shows I really enjoy. No ginned up family drama. Just Ed giving a brief overview of how these things are done and he manages to make it interesting without looking like a total jackass like every other show on Discovery or Speed. Its one of the very few shows I miss since moving to streaming only.


Lots of episodes available on Youtube. :-)

I really like the show precisely for the reason you mentioned: no drama-conflict foolishness. Mike has a sales-y vibe but it's not annoying, and Edd explains the repairs quite clearly. It's a collaborative environment and they work on some nifty cars (like the Isetta). Good stuff.


Yah, that's why WD is great - Edd is a natural teacher.
 
2014-04-28 08:17:43 PM  

Dwight_Yeast: chitownmike: your train makes a loop and hits Chinatown twice?

NYC has two Chinatowns: one in Manhattan (where you pay a fortune to live in a tiny box) and one in Brooklyn.


3, you forgot Flushing Queens
 
2014-04-28 08:19:02 PM  

GRCooper: Englebert Slaptyback: burnvictim

Awesome, someone actually referencing Wheeler Dealers. Really only one of the only Car Refurbish/Repair shows I really enjoy. No ginned up family drama. Just Ed giving a brief overview of how these things are done and he manages to make it interesting without looking like a total jackass like every other show on Discovery or Speed. Its one of the very few shows I miss since moving to streaming only.


Lots of episodes available on Youtube. :-)

I really like the show precisely for the reason you mentioned: no drama-conflict foolishness. Mike has a sales-y vibe but it's not annoying, and Edd explains the repairs quite clearly. It's a collaborative environment and they work on some nifty cars (like the Isetta). Good stuff.

Yah, that's why WD is great - Edd is a natural teacher.


If you enjoy WD, you should track down the early episodes of the "new" Top Gear (about 2001) when it returned after Clarkson quit.  The first new series they had a fat guy who gave used car advice instead of James May, and they had to work to make it look like they had an audience.
 
2014-04-28 08:20:45 PM  

Kanemano: Dwight_Yeast: chitownmike: your train makes a loop and hits Chinatown twice?

NYC has two Chinatowns: one in Manhattan (where you pay a fortune to live in a tiny box) and one in Brooklyn.

3, you forgot Flushing Queens


Three Chinatowns.  Just the three Chinatowns

Fear, surprise...
 
2014-04-28 08:26:12 PM  

Dwight_Yeast: Soulcatcher: eeyore102: Not a sitcom, but I do wonder how Sherlock manages to afford his flat on Baker Street. Yes, I know, Mrs. Hudson's cutting him a special deal, but still...and in "His Last Vow" we see that she's in debt so...how does that work, exactly?

Even in the books it says that Sherlock is paying her a princely sum for his rooms. Scotland Yard isn't paying him so...how...?

He makes extra scratch from the private clients he and John take on.

Yup. While they move in together for reasons of economy and a good address, in the books, they're pretty much set from "A Scandal in Bohemia" on, as the king pays Sherlock handsomely. Later on, when Watson comes back to work on cases, he says that he can leave his practice on Harley St for days at a time.

In the new Sherlock series, the explanation is that Mrs Hudson is willing to rent to the two of them at well below market rate because Sherlock got her husband convicted and executed in Florida. Also, Baker St is less desirable as a place to live than it was a century ago.


I got the impression from the stories that Holmes was some kind of Scottish nobility, possibly illegitimate.

I have no idea where I got that idea.
 
2014-04-28 08:26:24 PM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: The Cosby show's townhouse always bugged me. How could they afford it? Neither adult seemed to be at thier practice


I remember back in the 80s watching The Cosby Show, whenever they showed them eating some chips or drinking a soda, it was always some made up generic crap. I remember thinking how ridiculous it was that a fairly wealthy family like that couldn't afford name brand snacks. To me that's more distracting than showing someone eating/drinking a name brand product.

/CoCo Dots
 
2014-04-28 08:28:35 PM  

exvaxman: During the run of Married With Children I remember a writer stating that the house was supposed to be located in Hoffman Estates, Il. A bundy comic book stated that the house was in Schaumburg, the next town over.


Not even. Deerfield, no way.  Hoffman Estates - very unlikely.  More like Streamwood.  Definitely Elgin.
 
2014-04-28 08:34:02 PM  

Riotboy: Mid_mo_mad_man: The Cosby show's townhouse always bugged me. How could they afford it? Neither adult seemed to be at thier practice

I remember back in the 80s watching The Cosby Show, whenever they showed them eating some chips or drinking a soda, it was always some made up generic crap. I remember thinking how ridiculous it was that a fairly wealthy family like that couldn't afford name brand snacks. To me that's more distracting than showing someone eating/drinking a name brand product.


I've been listening to the real Bill Cosby and I saw him live just a few weeks ago.

On "200 MPH:" "I had a Rolls Royce.  Cost $19.000"  When the custom 200MPH Cobra from Carol Shelby is delivered, "My houseman tells me the guy is downstairs."
This is was the late 1960s.

Now. He lets it slip, "Chef asked me what I wanted to serve..."
 
2014-04-28 08:38:45 PM  

spman: Was it ever explained on Seinfeld how Kramer managed to afford to live in Manhattan despite having seemingly zero income for the majority of the show?


Massive settlement for brain injury.
 
2014-04-28 08:45:39 PM  

Riotboy: Mid_mo_mad_man: The Cosby show's townhouse always bugged me. How could they afford it? Neither adult seemed to be at thier practice

I remember back in the 80s watching The Cosby Show, whenever they showed them eating some chips or drinking a soda, it was always some made up generic crap. I remember thinking how ridiculous it was that a fairly wealthy family like that couldn't afford name brand snacks. To me that's more distracting than showing someone eating/drinking a name brand product.

/CoCo Dots


Its because the show would have to pay the food companies money for use of their logos.

All tv shows do this. They have just gotten better at the mock food labels.
 
2014-04-28 08:46:02 PM  

Target Builder: Homer Simpson is pulling in almost $80k?

And Don Draper was on a ton more than $150k , his living room is probably 1000 square feet and he got (IIRC) $500,000 in 1960's cash for his share of Stirling Cooper. He could afford a pretty nice pad..


Homer's a safety inspector at a nuke plant. It would be about twice that if he could get the same title elsewhere.
 
2014-04-28 09:07:11 PM  

MFAWG: I got the impression from the stories that Holmes was some kind of Scottish nobility, possibly illegitimate.

I have no idea where I got that idea.


That's James Bond and it's actually something Fleming wrote into series as a nod to Connery.  At the end of one of the books, he has Bond retire and plan to return to his ancestral home.  They used it for Skyfall.

Conan Doyle was Anglo-Scottish; his father was English but he was born in Scotland.  He left the Holmes' origins mysterious, but both were clearly well-educated,  though privately.  Mycroft holding the sort of nebulous position he does suggests that the family was highly placed, and his club-based lifestyle is that of a gentleman of leisure.

Sherlock on the other hand, apparently needs money at least at the beginning, as he has specifically been looking for someone to share his rooms with.  Dr Watson being a retired, invalided army surgeon would have received a pension which gave him a reasonable set income.  He only goes back into seeing patients  after he marries and sets up household.
 
2014-04-28 09:30:17 PM  

shortymac: Riotboy: Mid_mo_mad_man: The Cosby show's townhouse always bugged me. How could they afford it? Neither adult seemed to be at thier practice

I remember back in the 80s watching The Cosby Show, whenever they showed them eating some chips or drinking a soda, it was always some made up generic crap. I remember thinking how ridiculous it was that a fairly wealthy family like that couldn't afford name brand snacks. To me that's more distracting than showing someone eating/drinking a name brand product.

/CoCo Dots

Its because the show would have to pay the food companies money for use of their logos.

All tv shows do this. They have just gotten better at the mock food labels.


it works exactly the opposite of the way you think it does
 
2014-04-28 09:34:38 PM  

mcreadyblue: Sin_City_Superhero: mcreadyblue: Fiero, LOL!

Can you explain your humor or disdain (I can't tell which one you are exhibiting)? Is there a problem with the Fiero?

Dr Jack Badofsky: Those are actually neat little cars! Stereo speakers in the headrests, they weren't bad on gas, the GTs were sporty little things (for a "commuter car"), and they looked good (the later ones moreso). I'd love to own a 2M6 or a GT with a stick shift.

Mine's an '86 GT, with a '95 Camaro engine (3.4 Liter V-6) and a 4-speed automatic transmission out of a '93 Bonneville. I need to raise it back up some because the previous owner lowered it too much. But it'll pass anything except a gas station...

Problem?

I seem to remember it was a basket case of engine and electrical issues. Typical poorly built GM product of the 80's. Never thought of it being a collectors car.


Actually, it was only the earliest '84's that got a bad batch of connecting rods that, when they failed, broke through the oil pan, spraying oil on the catalytic converter.

There was an incredibly minor percentage of Fieros involved, but it's easy to stigmatize an innovative, idea-driven car.

I own 2 '88's, a 4-cyl Coupe with nearly 300K miles on the original engine and drivetrain, and an '88 Formula with close to 250K on it on which I had an Automoda convertible conversion kit (one of about 35 in existence) installed.

The more Fiero haters there are out there, the more (and better selection of) cars and parts out there for those of us who know better...
 
2014-04-28 09:44:27 PM  

chitownmike: shortymac: Riotboy: Mid_mo_mad_man: The Cosby show's townhouse always bugged me. How could they afford it? Neither adult seemed to be at thier practice

I remember back in the 80s watching The Cosby Show, whenever they showed them eating some chips or drinking a soda, it was always some made up generic crap. I remember thinking how ridiculous it was that a fairly wealthy family like that couldn't afford name brand snacks. To me that's more distracting than showing someone eating/drinking a name brand product.

/CoCo Dots

Its because the show would have to pay the food companies money for use of their logos.

All tv shows do this. They have just gotten better at the mock food labels.

it works exactly the opposite of the way you think it does


Cosby was also a major (read: expensive) spokesman for Jell-o at the time, so Kraft may well had a block-out in their contract with him that he couldn't be pictured with any other food product.

Cosby has always been an amazingly smart businessman.  Starting with I spy, he's owned a piece of everything he's done.  He realized that the record companies were screwing him on his comedy albums, so he started his own label, and put out all sorts of wild stuff no one else would touch.

While the food labels were fake, the art in the Huxtable living room was all high-quality repros of pieces Cosby actually owns. He did it so the artist got paid by NBC for rights reproductions.
 
2014-04-28 09:54:01 PM  

bungle_jr: Yanks_RSJ: groppet: IIRC the episode where the plant was going to melt down Smithers and Burns were talking about Homer being hired under Operation Bootstrap. Mr. Burns thanked president Ford for that plan.

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so, $11/hr. but what season was that? show started in 87, and $11/hr back then was pretty good money.


It wasn't great money but I fed and clothed a family of three on it in 87.
 
2014-04-28 09:59:20 PM  

clkeagle: Yeah, Friends was an odd choice for the article. They mentioned the big apartment being rent controlled several times per season, and Chandler said a few times that he could easily afford to live alone.

I'm also not convinced the Bundy house was nearly as large as TFA suggests. Perspective on the sound stage made the living room and kitchen look big, but the dialog always suggested otherwise. The upstairs bedrooms all seemed to be pretty small. I never imagined it to be more than 1100 sq ft or so.


Looked like about 2600 sqft to me.  I had basically the same house but with the garage on the other side.  Interior layout was obviously different but it was about 1300 sqft per floor, not counting the basement.    Houses back then had hallways coming through the front door with an opening to the formal living room.  The end of the hallway was at the kitchen and had a door on it so you could hide the mess.  My realtor had to explain that one to me.
 
2014-04-28 10:03:54 PM  

Dwight_Yeast: Kanemano: Dwight_Yeast: chitownmike: your train makes a loop and hits Chinatown twice?

NYC has two Chinatowns: one in Manhattan (where you pay a fortune to live in a tiny box) and one in Brooklyn.

3, you forgot Flushing Queens

Three Chinatowns.  Just the three Chinatowns

Fear, surprise...


Forget it, Jake.
 
2014-04-28 10:15:59 PM  

Li'l Robbie: The only apartment-dwellers on TV who lived in one even remotely resembling those most
Americans live in were Ralph and Alice Kramden.


7thhouseontheleft.com
 
2014-04-28 10:21:51 PM  

LZeitgeist: mcreadyblue: Sin_City_Superhero: mcreadyblue: Fiero, LOL!

Can you explain your humor or disdain (I can't tell which one you are exhibiting)? Is there a problem with the Fiero?

Dr Jack Badofsky: Those are actually neat little cars! Stereo speakers in the headrests, they weren't bad on gas, the GTs were sporty little things (for a "commuter car"), and they looked good (the later ones moreso). I'd love to own a 2M6 or a GT with a stick shift.

Mine's an '86 GT, with a '95 Camaro engine (3.4 Liter V-6) and a 4-speed automatic transmission out of a '93 Bonneville. I need to raise it back up some because the previous owner lowered it too much. But it'll pass anything except a gas station...

Problem?

I seem to remember it was a basket case of engine and electrical issues. Typical poorly built GM product of the 80's. Never thought of it being a collectors car.

Actually, it was only the earliest '84's that got a bad batch of connecting rods that, when they failed, broke through the oil pan, spraying oil on the catalytic converter.

There was an incredibly minor percentage of Fieros involved, but it's easy to stigmatize an innovative, idea-driven car.

I own 2 '88's, a 4-cyl Coupe with nearly 300K miles on the original engine and drivetrain, and an '88 Formula with close to 250K on it on which I had an Automoda convertible conversion kit (one of about 35 in existence) installed.

The more Fiero haters there are out there, the more (and better selection of) cars and parts out there for those of us who know better...


1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-04-28 10:26:09 PM  

TedCruz'sCrazyDad: The more Fiero haters there are out there, the more (and better selection of) cars and parts out there for those of us who know better...


"One time I saw two guys kissing in the park and I thought it was the gayest thing I'd ever seen, Then I saw that pic."

encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com
 
2014-04-28 10:30:46 PM  

Mugato: TedCruz'sCrazyDad: The more Fiero haters there are out there, the more (and better selection of) cars and parts out there for those of us who know better...

"One time I saw two guys kissing in the park and I thought it was the gayest thing I'd ever seen, Then I saw that pic."

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Hey, it could have been worse:  A Cadillac Cimarron.
 
2014-04-28 10:32:39 PM  

TedCruz'sCrazyDad: Li'l Robbie: The only apartment-dwellers on TV who lived in one even remotely resembling those most
Americans live in were Ralph and Alice Kramden.

[7thhouseontheleft.com image 520x353]


I grew up with a lot of furniture like that.

/And my Dad (when young) looked like a cross between Ricky Ricardo and Tyrone Power.
 
2014-04-28 10:34:02 PM  

LZeitgeist: mcreadyblue: Sin_City_Superhero: mcreadyblue: Fiero, LOL!

Can you explain your humor or disdain (I can't tell which one you are exhibiting)? Is there a problem with the Fiero?

Dr Jack Badofsky: Those are actually neat little cars! Stereo speakers in the headrests, they weren't bad on gas, the GTs were sporty little things (for a "commuter car"), and they looked good (the later ones moreso). I'd love to own a 2M6 or a GT with a stick shift.

Mine's an '86 GT, with a '95 Camaro engine (3.4 Liter V-6) and a 4-speed automatic transmission out of a '93 Bonneville. I need to raise it back up some because the previous owner lowered it too much. But it'll pass anything except a gas station...

Problem?

I seem to remember it was a basket case of engine and electrical issues. Typical poorly built GM product of the 80's. Never thought of it being a collectors car.

Actually, it was only the earliest '84's that got a bad batch of connecting rods that, when they failed, broke through the oil pan, spraying oil on the catalytic converter.

There was an incredibly minor percentage of Fieros involved, but it's easy to stigmatize an innovative, idea-driven car.

I own 2 '88's, a 4-cyl Coupe with nearly 300K miles on the original engine and drivetrain, and an '88 Formula with close to 250K on it on which I had an Automoda convertible conversion kit (one of about 35 in existence) installed.

The more Fiero haters there are out there, the more (and better selection of) cars and parts out there for those of us who know better...


if a grown man can't fit in it, it's not a real car
 
2014-04-28 10:59:14 PM  

Wireless Joe: [1.bp.blogspot.com image 320x270]
Probably accurate for a couple of  bottle cappers in the time and place (late '50s Milwaukee) if they were union, but no way a couple of gift-wrappers at a department store could afford this place in Burbank.
[www.dvdtalk.com image 400x300]


Man, I hated that show after they moved out to California. Why the fark did EVERYONE follow them?
 
2014-04-28 11:06:01 PM  

katerbug72: Man, I hated that show after they moved out to California. Why the fark did EVERYONE follow them?


Sam Kinison could explain it.  http://rumored.com/music/reviews/Sam-Kinison/
 
2014-04-28 11:17:20 PM  

Dr Jack Badofsky: Mugato: TedCruz'sCrazyDad: The more Fiero haters there are out there, the more (and better selection of) cars and parts out there for those of us who know better...

"One time I saw two guys kissing in the park and I thought it was the gayest thing I'd ever seen, Then I saw that pic."

[encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com image 223x226]

Hey, it could have been worse:  A Cadillac Cimarron.


Originally it was "Cimarron by Cadillac", not a Cadillac Cimarron.
 
2014-04-29 12:54:52 AM  

Gig103: How about Penny living across the hall? Even a one-bedroom would be probably 2/3 the $1700 estimate, so $1100/mo on a waitress salary?


Probably why she sleeps around, eats their food, uses their wifi and borrows money from them.

Ted usually has roommates in his apartment, so I'm not sure why he was listed alone.

Also the Bundy house taking up all their money makes sense, that's why they never had food on the show.
 
2014-04-29 12:55:32 AM  

Flint Ironstag: Dr Jack Badofsky: Mugato: TedCruz'sCrazyDad: The more Fiero haters there are out there, the more (and better selection of) cars and parts out there for those of us who know better...

"One time I saw two guys kissing in the park and I thought it was the gayest thing I'd ever seen, Then I saw that pic."

[encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com image 223x226]

Hey, it could have been worse:  A Cadillac Cimarron.

Originally it was "Cimarron by Cadillac", not a Cadillac Cimarron.


A turd by any other name....
 
2014-04-29 01:27:34 AM  

peacheslatour: In what universe does a construction worker and a waitress living in bumfark Lanford Il. make a combined income of $5,300. a month in the 1990's?


Apparently in the same one where a supermarket manager and a real estate agent in a Philadelphia suburb make a combined $11,700 per month.

It seems like they're assuming the absolute highest possible income in a given field. Boy Meets World never (to my recollection) gave the impression that Amy Mathews was selling multi-million dollar mansions or commercial properties. But if she was then I could believe that she and a supermarket manager could consistently pull down that kind of money.
 
2014-04-29 01:50:59 AM  
Author is high if he thinks the Bundy house is so much more expensive than Roseanne's house.
 
2014-04-29 02:17:48 AM  

chitownmike: if a grown man can't fit in it, it's not a real car


When I was a kid I took the bus to school.  The guy who had the house next to the bus stop had a Fiero.  He was also close to 400 lbs.  He managed to fit into it.

My aunt had one.  She hit the gas "accidentally" while making, slammed into the car in front of her and totaled it.
 
2014-04-29 05:21:21 AM  
i.imgur.com
13,5 and a free trailer.
 
2014-04-29 06:17:24 AM  

luidprand: Ow! That was my feelings!: Concerning Friends, I think the lack of minorities in New York was more obviously clueless than 'how can they afford their apartment'.

You know, that always bothered me, until I found out that New York is the most racially segregated city in America.

http://www.businessinsider.com/most-segregated-cities-census-maps-20 13 -4?op=1
http://gothamist.com/2014/04/15/nyc_segregation_map.php#


While the conclusions one makes about segregation of population is disheartening/interesting, the maps themselves are neat and clear visualizations of the census data they come from.  Then I realized how densely populated some of those cities are and it makes me twitch.
 
2014-04-29 06:53:18 AM  

clkeagle: Yeah, Friends was an odd choice for the article. They mentioned the big apartment being rent controlled several times per season, and Chandler said a few times that he could easily afford to live alone.


But after he and Monica got married, he lost his job, and they were instantly broke.

/ didn't care for the last couple seasons of the show because the writing got stupider and weirder
 
2014-04-29 06:59:58 AM  

chitownmike: LZeitgeist: mcreadyblue: Sin_City_Superhero: mcreadyblue: Fiero, LOL!

Can you explain your humor or disdain (I can't tell which one you are exhibiting)? Is there a problem with the Fiero?

Dr Jack Badofsky: Those are actually neat little cars! Stereo speakers in the headrests, they weren't bad on gas, the GTs were sporty little things (for a "commuter car"), and they looked good (the later ones moreso). I'd love to own a 2M6 or a GT with a stick shift.

Mine's an '86 GT, with a '95 Camaro engine (3.4 Liter V-6) and a 4-speed automatic transmission out of a '93 Bonneville. I need to raise it back up some because the previous owner lowered it too much. But it'll pass anything except a gas station...

Problem?

I seem to remember it was a basket case of engine and electrical issues. Typical poorly built GM product of the 80's. Never thought of it being a collectors car.

Actually, it was only the earliest '84's that got a bad batch of connecting rods that, when they failed, broke through the oil pan, spraying oil on the catalytic converter.

There was an incredibly minor percentage of Fieros involved, but it's easy to stigmatize an innovative, idea-driven car.

I own 2 '88's, a 4-cyl Coupe with nearly 300K miles on the original engine and drivetrain, and an '88 Formula with close to 250K on it on which I had an Automoda convertible conversion kit (one of about 35 in existence) installed.

The more Fiero haters there are out there, the more (and better selection of) cars and parts out there for those of us who know better...

if a grown man can't fit in it, it's not a real car


I'm 6'2" and have no trouble. You must be right.
 
2014-04-29 07:12:23 AM  
Yeah, the 30% figure has some problems :  It works really well when you talk about people who make modest salaries outside major cities, but there are a few situations where it stops making 'sense'

1. When the person makes double or triple the area median average income. (Frasier)
2. When the person Lives in an urban core, where the Rent is either an investment into future earnings  (most young people) and it displaces other costs (like cars, gasoline and insurance)

That being said, there are also apartments in NYC where they want renters to be earning 30x the current rent or 70x the current monthly rent to qualify.
 
2014-04-29 09:35:33 AM  

Sin_City_Superhero: mcreadyblue: Fiero, LOL!

Can you explain your humor or disdain (I can't tell which one you are exhibiting)? Is there a problem with the Fiero?

Dr Jack Badofsky: Those are actually neat little cars! Stereo speakers in the headrests, they weren't bad on gas, the GTs were sporty little things (for a "commuter car"), and they looked good (the later ones moreso). I'd love to own a 2M6 or a GT with a stick shift.

Mine's an '86 GT, with a '95 Camaro engine (3.4 Liter V-6) and a 4-speed automatic transmission out of a '93 Bonneville. I need to raise it back up some because the previous owner lowered it too much. But it'll pass anything except a gas station...


Here's mine...

img.fark.net
 
2014-04-29 11:05:52 AM  

rubi_con_man: That being said, there are also apartments in NYC where they want renters to be earning 30x the current rent or 70x the current monthly rent to qualify.


Co-Op buildings in Manhattan are famous for this: the usual rule of thumb is that the board wants to see liquid assets in excess of four times the asking price PLUS the asking price.  With apartments on Park and Fifth regularly selling for $50 million, that means the buyers have $250 million in cash, if not more.

To make things more fun, you can't get a bank to write a mortgage on a co-op, as you're buying a share of the company which owns the building, not a tangible piece of real estate like a condo or house, so you can't borrow the money to buy and you can't borrow against the asset.
 
2014-04-29 11:18:05 AM  

chitownmike: shortymac: Riotboy: Mid_mo_mad_man: The Cosby show's townhouse always bugged me. How could they afford it? Neither adult seemed to be at thier practice

I remember back in the 80s watching The Cosby Show, whenever they showed them eating some chips or drinking a soda, it was always some made up generic crap. I remember thinking how ridiculous it was that a fairly wealthy family like that couldn't afford name brand snacks. To me that's more distracting than showing someone eating/drinking a name brand product.

/CoCo Dots

Its because the show would have to pay the food companies money for use of their logos.

All tv shows do this. They have just gotten better at the mock food labels.

it works exactly the opposite of the way you think it does


It does now.  It didn't then.
 
2014-04-29 11:31:08 AM  
Mikey1969:

The thing that has always mystified me about being an architect is where do you start? Do the elevations get done before the foundation?

I could totally get into studying architecture though I love cool buildings and Art Deco is one of my favorite things in the world..



The "pieces" all get designed at the same time (elevations, plans, sections, etc), and are all developed simultaneously from a very rough concept/diagram, and it gets refined over and over till you reach a "finished product"

Think of it like painting. An artist doesn't start at one corner of a blank canvas and work their way over. They pencil out the whole thing first, then add base colors everywhere, then primary colors everywhere, then shade/shadow/highlights and finally touch-ups.

Same with architecture. You draw out the whole thing, first just with simple lines that define all the spaces and building volume, then assignment of accessory spaces (circulation {horizontal and vertical}, service rooms, utility areas, etc) then you put in approximate locations of doors and windows, then pick materials, then pick finishes. all the while, things get tweaked the whole time (walls move, windows added or removed, etc).


And yeah, Art Deco is cool. Lots of architects still like Art Deco. But nobody builds Art Deco. Builders don't want to pay for what real Art Deco requires, and 90% of the ignorant population would just think it "it looks old, why would they build an old building?"
 
2014-04-29 11:53:12 AM  

Sin_City_Superhero: mcreadyblue: Fiero, LOL!


Can you explain your humor or disdain (I can't tell which one you are exhibiting)? Is there a problem with the Fiero?


They got a bad reputation when they started catching on fire.
 
2014-04-29 12:00:32 PM  

LemSkroob: Mikey1969:

The thing that has always mystified me about being an architect is where do you start? Do the elevations get done before the foundation?

I could totally get into studying architecture though I love cool buildings and Art Deco is one of my favorite things in the world..


The "pieces" all get designed at the same time (elevations, plans, sections, etc), and are all developed simultaneously from a very rough concept/diagram, and it gets refined over and over till you reach a "finished product"

Think of it like painting. An artist doesn't start at one corner of a blank canvas and work their way over. They pencil out the whole thing first, then add base colors everywhere, then primary colors everywhere, then shade/shadow/highlights and finally touch-ups.

Same with architecture. You draw out the whole thing, first just with simple lines that define all the spaces and building volume, then assignment of accessory spaces (circulation {horizontal and vertical}, service rooms, utility areas, etc) then you put in approximate locations of doors and windows, then pick materials, then pick finishes. all the while, things get tweaked the whole time (walls move, windows added or removed, etc).


And yeah, Art Deco is cool. Lots of architects still like Art Deco. But nobody builds Art Deco. Builders don't want to pay for what real Art Deco requires, and 90% of the ignorant population would just think it "it looks old, why would they build an old building?"


Cool... I've sat down a few times and thought that I would develop my "dream house", and then realized I didn't know where to start, had no idea what standard room sizes were, and no idea how big of a footprint an average house took up... There is obviously a reason people get paid to do this. :-)

And I almost wet myself when I saw this building in Vancouver on vacation one year. The elevators have such beautiful woodwork in them, I can spot them on movies, even though I was only there once. And yeah, the buildings are too 'grand' for me to picture someone paying for one now.

http://www.greatervancouverparks.com/355BurrardPhotos.html
 
2014-04-29 12:42:27 PM  

Dwight_Yeast: They have enough parts that they've built DeLoreans from scratch.  The guys in Texas actually bought out DMC when it was in bankruptcy; they are the auto maker at this point.


They probably can't legally build one completely from scratch, as there's no way a DeLorean meets model year 2014 pollution and safety standards.  But they could certainly take a completely totaled one and replace 90%+ of the parts to it, giving you what is effectively a new car.
 
2014-04-29 12:48:40 PM  

Riotboy: Mid_mo_mad_man: The Cosby show's townhouse always bugged me. How could they afford it? Neither adult seemed to be at thier practice

I remember back in the 80s watching The Cosby Show, whenever they showed them eating some chips or drinking a soda, it was always some made up generic crap. I remember thinking how ridiculous it was that a fairly wealthy family like that couldn't afford name brand snacks. To me that's more distracting than showing someone eating/drinking a name brand product.

/CoCo Dots


As an above poster stated, it was because using name brands would be more complicated. This was also in the 80's, so product placement wasn't as prevalent as it is now. Plus, Cosby may have wanted to avoid that, not wanting real-life products to distract from the show. So in reality, these were name brand products, just ones we'd never heard of.

Of course, I can also see Cliff Huxtable deliberately choosing the generic options to both save money (he was notoriously thrifty) and keep the children from getting spoiled. If they wanted name brand, they could buy it themselves. But with Cliff being such an avid food-lover, I can see his resolve breaking quickly when he sees the amazing name-brand salty snack that his wife and doctor want him to stay far away from.
 
2014-04-29 12:49:55 PM  

Kanemano: Telos: spman: Was it ever explained on Seinfeld how Kramer managed to afford to live in Manhattan despite having seemingly zero income for the majority of the show?

Haha... please.

You forget all three guys are based on actual people, Jerry on himself George on Larry David and Kramer on Kenny Kramer who was their neighbor and they couldn't answer that question in real life living next to the guy so


The jokes on you, I didn't forget that because I never knew it! ;)

i was really just making a joke in reference to another show though...
 
2014-04-29 01:08:23 PM  

Geotpf: Dwight_Yeast: They have enough parts that they've built DeLoreans from scratch.  The guys in Texas actually bought out DMC when it was in bankruptcy; they are the auto maker at this point.

They probably can't legally build one completely from scratch, as there's no way a DeLorean meets model year 2014 pollution and safety standards.  But they could certainly take a completely totaled one and replace 90%+ of the parts to it, giving you what is effectively a new car.


Well, that's the fun thing: they have chassis assembled in 1981, so they can build cars and title them as 1981 vehicles.  But  it looks like mostly what they do is refurbish old cars.  They do have one listed with 77 miles on it, which is super-low.

Check them out:

http://delorean.com/

DeLorean had enough parts produced to build many more cars than are out there on the roads.  He learned from Malcolm Tucker and figured out how to source the parts (getting parts is what killed Tucker).  Delorean's problem was labor issues at the factory in Northern Ireland; in was 1980 and his workforce spent more time on strike than it did working.
 
2014-04-29 01:58:01 PM  
The ABSOLUTE worst case of this is Homeland....Sgt. Brody on enlisted military income (a single income at that) living right outside DC (presumably in McClean or somewhere similar) In fairly large, nice neighborhood. i dont think so. Also why the hell do they even live there? There are really no deployable marine units based out of that area at all....

Of course this is all season 1 before he becomes president of the CIA or the world or whatever the hell happens later.....
 
2014-04-29 02:16:59 PM  

Dwight_Yeast: Co-Op buildings in Manhattan are famous for this: the usual rule of thumb is that the board wants to see liquid assets in excess of four times the asking price PLUS the asking price.  With apartments on Park and Fifth regularly selling for $50 million, that means the buyers have $250 million in cash, if not more


And I know people who aren't multi-millionaires who think it's totally worth it to live in NYC.

/lived in NYC
//hell hole
 
2014-04-29 02:37:32 PM  

Mugato: And I know people who aren't multi-millionaires who think it's totally worth it to live in NYC.


I do to, and they're all insanely happy to live there.  Only one of them lives in Manhattan, on the UES.  Her apartment search was epic, but she's a New York girl and batted through the bullshiat to get a nice place for a reasonable amount.

Everyone else I know lives in Brooklyn, which reminds me of a nicer version of the neighborhood I grew up in.  There are still parts of Brooklyn that are within reason.

The big thing as someone point out to me recently is that if you live in NYC you can run with the big boys and play in the majors. Even the scumbags and drug dealers have to hustle a lot harder up there than they do in Philly.  And that's why I still live here: it's cheap and almost big enough to be a great city.  I could live cheaper places, but the lack of stuff would drive me insane.
 
2014-04-29 02:53:39 PM  

Dwight_Yeast: The big thing as someone point out to me recently is that if you live in NYC you can run with the big boys and play in the majors.


Yeah, I've only lived in "The City" for three months so I'm not a native or anything but I know the arrogant attitude and it's largely undeserved. LA is better in every way (unless you want to make it on Broadway or Wall Street) and they don't have the same douchebag attitude. And there are a lot of other places in the US that have a lot of the same opportunities without the baggage of those two cities.
 
2014-04-29 05:33:18 PM  

luidprand: Ow! That was my feelings!: Concerning Friends, I think the lack of minorities in New York was more obviously clueless than 'how can they afford their apartment'.

You know, that always bothered me, until I found out that New York is the most racially segregated city in America.

http://www.businessinsider.com/most-segregated-cities-census-maps-20 13 -4?op=1
http://gothamist.com/2014/04/15/nyc_segregation_map.php#


A rule of thumb is the bluer the city, the more segragated they are.  Bloomberg and Soros certainly won't live with the colored.
 
2014-04-29 06:15:18 PM  

HeartBurnKid: chitownmike: shortymac: Riotboy: Mid_mo_mad_man: The Cosby show's townhouse always bugged me. How could they afford it? Neither adult seemed to be at thier practice

I remember back in the 80s watching The Cosby Show, whenever they showed them eating some chips or drinking a soda, it was always some made up generic crap. I remember thinking how ridiculous it was that a fairly wealthy family like that couldn't afford name brand snacks. To me that's more distracting than showing someone eating/drinking a name brand product.

/CoCo Dots

Its because the show would have to pay the food companies money for use of their logos.

All tv shows do this. They have just gotten better at the mock food labels.

it works exactly the opposite of the way you think it does

It does now.  It didn't then.


Product placement has always been a part of TV, I am sorry you have been led to believe otherwise
 
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