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2014-04-27 08:33:23 PM  

redmid17: phalamir: Adolf Oliver Nipples: Mugato: Adolf Oliver Nipples: Getting a CCW permit is a lot more than forking $50 over to someone at a gun show.

Not really. I had to take a class for a couple hours, not have a felony on my record, I guess the same training as any cop has to take.

I had to give fingerprints, photographs, and references (which they check), and undergo a NICS check. Someone who willinglygives the police everything they need to identify them in the event of a crime isn't likely to commit any.

The number of repeat offenders pretty much disproves that.

Let me fix that for OP. The states that release statistics on CCW arrests (TX, NC, MI, FL) off the top of my head show an arrest rate a small fraction of that for the general population. DUI was the most common arrest. Violent crime is pretty much negligible.


I have been infromed by the Violence Policy Center that actual crime data regarding concealed weapons permit holders cannot be reasonably assessed because the National Rifle Association has worked to block states from releasing lists of the names and addresses of concealed weapons permit holders to anyone who asks.

However, the organization estimate that concealed weapons permit holders is much higher than claimed.
 
2014-04-27 08:33:52 PM  
and they should cancel the requirement.

FTFM
 
2014-04-27 08:33:58 PM  

Pokey.Clyde: EvilEgg: My solution is they have to wear their permits like badges.

Kind of defeats the purpose of concealed carry, doesn't it?

/didn't think that one all the way through, did you?


It's a way people who really don't like the idea of a particular right have to pretend that they're allowing it. Kind of like, "You have the right to free speech, so we've designated that fenced-in area way over there as the place for you to exercise it."
 
2014-04-27 08:34:23 PM  

thisisarepeat: Adolf Oliver Nipples: Mugato: Adolf Oliver Nipples: and statistics have shown that permit holders are far less likely than the general population to commit violent crimes with guns

Yeah, giving $50 to some guy at a gun show makes you a responsible gun owner.

Getting a CCW permit is a lot more than forking $50 over to someone at a gun show.

Not a hell of a lot more.  I would like to see what the failure rate is for people that take the course to get the CHL.  If it is under 10% then they are just wasting everybody's time and they cancel the requirement.


What are the CCW application requirements in your state?
 
2014-04-27 08:35:25 PM  

Bullseyed: ZAZ: The law goes into effect July 1, according to CNN.

Liberals never let facts get in the way of their fascism.

If the law had been in effect, a good guy could have stopped him.


The only way to stop a bad drunk guy with a gun, is a good drunk guy with a gun.  Bystanders farked either way.
 
2014-04-27 08:36:02 PM  
And damnit what does counter clockwise have to do with gun right discussions??
 
2014-04-27 08:36:54 PM  

Bullseyed: ZAZ: The law goes into effect July 1, according to CNN.

Liberals never let facts get in the way of their fascism.

If the law had been in effect, a good guy could have stopped him.


You're dealing with hoplophobics.  They're irrational by their very nature.
 
2014-04-27 08:37:01 PM  

redmid17: thisisarepeat: Adolf Oliver Nipples: Mugato: Adolf Oliver Nipples: and statistics have shown that permit holders are far less likely than the general population to commit violent crimes with guns

Yeah, giving $50 to some guy at a gun show makes you a responsible gun owner.

Getting a CCW permit is a lot more than forking $50 over to someone at a gun show.

Not a hell of a lot more.  I would like to see what the failure rate is for people that take the course to get the CHL.  If it is under 10% then they are just wasting everybody's time and they cancel the requirement.

What are the CCW application requirements in your state?


Dont be a felon.

oh and...no, thats all.
 
2014-04-27 08:37:31 PM  
I own guns and I like them but I'm not a fanatic. Like, I have no need for an assault weapon -- which isn't cheap to fire. I don't hunt so I don't require an over priced, precision cannon.

In my drinking days, I would bet bucks that at any given night, in any of the many bars I frequented, if you shook down the patrons, you'd find at least two guns. (I took one away from a drunk friend of mine, whisked it out of the bar, unloaded it and locked it in the car.)

Almost every Friday night, someone shot someone else in a bar. Especially in the many Country bars we had at the time. Even I was smart enough while drunk to not carry a gun into a bar. Booze tends to wipe out common sense and make folks quick to anger, which means that gun comes out a lot faster and they don't think of the consequences.

It's illegal in my state to carry a gun into a bar. It's illegal to carry a loaded gun on your person without a permit. Discharging a weapon in a residential area is illegal. You may carry a gun in your car, so long as it is like in the glove box and unloaded. It must take you three steps to get the gun and shoot it. You must also notify any police officer who stops you if you have a gun in the car.

Making it legal for folks to carry a weapon in a bar is just asking for a jump in the death toll. I've met a whole lot of folks in bars who I wouldn't trust with a rubber knife, let alone a loaded gun.
 
2014-04-27 08:37:36 PM  

thisisarepeat: redmid17: thisisarepeat: Adolf Oliver Nipples: Mugato: Adolf Oliver Nipples: and statistics have shown that permit holders are far less likely than the general population to commit violent crimes with guns

Yeah, giving $50 to some guy at a gun show makes you a responsible gun owner.

Getting a CCW permit is a lot more than forking $50 over to someone at a gun show.

Not a hell of a lot more.  I would like to see what the failure rate is for people that take the course to get the CHL.  If it is under 10% then they are just wasting everybody's time and they cancel the requirement.

What are the CCW application requirements in your state?

Dont be a felon.

oh and...no, thats all.


Unless you live in an constitutional carry state, you're missing a few things there.
 
2014-04-27 08:39:21 PM  

redmid17: thisisarepeat: redmid17: thisisarepeat: Adolf Oliver Nipples: Mugato: Adolf Oliver Nipples: and statistics have shown that permit holders are far less likely than the general population to commit violent crimes with guns

Yeah, giving $50 to some guy at a gun show makes you a responsible gun owner.

Getting a CCW permit is a lot more than forking $50 over to someone at a gun show.

Not a hell of a lot more.  I would like to see what the failure rate is for people that take the course to get the CHL.  If it is under 10% then they are just wasting everybody's time and they cancel the requirement.

What are the CCW application requirements in your state?

Dont be a felon.

oh and...no, thats all.

Unless you live in an constitutional carry state, you're missing a few things there.


Its a "shall issue" state.
 
2014-04-27 08:39:26 PM  

rzrwiresunrise: Defeat the pupose of CCW? Kinda the point.

So who didn't think that through, now?


You, apparently. There are plenty of reasons why concealed carry is much more widespread than open carry. One of those reasons is so that the panty-wetters like yourself don't run away screaming every time they see a gun. Concealed carry tends to alleviate that.

LaurenAguilera: A laptop is hardly a deadly weapon that is frequently used in crime...


Neither is something like, say, a Barrett .50 cal. But there are people out there that would do almost anything to make civilian ownership of one illegal.
 
2014-04-27 08:39:58 PM  

thisisarepeat: redmid17: thisisarepeat: redmid17: thisisarepeat: Adolf Oliver Nipples: Mugato: Adolf Oliver Nipples: and statistics have shown that permit holders are far less likely than the general population to commit violent crimes with guns

Yeah, giving $50 to some guy at a gun show makes you a responsible gun owner.

Getting a CCW permit is a lot more than forking $50 over to someone at a gun show.

Not a hell of a lot more.  I would like to see what the failure rate is for people that take the course to get the CHL.  If it is under 10% then they are just wasting everybody's time and they cancel the requirement.

What are the CCW application requirements in your state?

Dont be a felon.

oh and...no, thats all.

Unless you live in an constitutional carry state, you're missing a few things there.

Its a "shall issue" state.


Then you're missing still missing a few steps there.
 
2014-04-27 08:40:04 PM  

Dimensio: redmid17: phalamir: Adolf Oliver Nipples: Mugato: Adolf Oliver Nipples: Getting a CCW permit is a lot more than forking $50 over to someone at a gun show.

Not really. I had to take a class for a couple hours, not have a felony on my record, I guess the same training as any cop has to take.

I had to give fingerprints, photographs, and references (which they check), and undergo a NICS check. Someone who willinglygives the police everything they need to identify them in the event of a crime isn't likely to commit any.

The number of repeat offenders pretty much disproves that.

Let me fix that for OP. The states that release statistics on CCW arrests (TX, NC, MI, FL) off the top of my head show an arrest rate a small fraction of that for the general population. DUI was the most common arrest. Violent crime is pretty much negligible.

I have been infromed by the Violence Policy Center that actual crime data regarding concealed weapons permit holders cannot be reasonably assessed because the National Rifle Association has worked to block states from releasing lists of the names and addresses of concealed weapons permit holders to anyone who asks.

However, the organization estimate that concealed weapons permit holders is much higher than claimed.


A political organization estimates the data that doesn't agree with their policy goals actually does agree with their policy goals and blames a rival political organization?

Ya don't say?
 
2014-04-27 08:41:29 PM  
but it does have a reciprocity agreement with most of the other states.  Not Mayor Dailey's state or New York or California probably a few shiatty little north eastern states.
 
2014-04-27 08:42:08 PM  

redmid17: thisisarepeat: redmid17: thisisarepeat: redmid17: thisisarepeat: Adolf Oliver Nipples: Mugato: Adolf Oliver Nipples: and statistics have shown that permit holders are far less likely than the general population to commit violent crimes with guns

Yeah, giving $50 to some guy at a gun show makes you a responsible gun owner.

Getting a CCW permit is a lot more than forking $50 over to someone at a gun show.

Not a hell of a lot more.  I would like to see what the failure rate is for people that take the course to get the CHL.  If it is under 10% then they are just wasting everybody's time and they cancel the requirement.

What are the CCW application requirements in your state?

Dont be a felon.

oh and...no, thats all.

Unless you live in an constitutional carry state, you're missing a few things there.

Its a "shall issue" state.

Then you're missing still missing a few steps there.


I'll even amend that to say that even the states with open carry typically have more requirements if you want to get a permit (for carry in other states).
 
2014-04-27 08:43:22 PM  
Buy all the guns you want, just stop shooting people
 
2014-04-27 08:43:40 PM  

OnlyM3: EvilEgg [TotalFark]

How does anyone in the bar know whether the guy is carrying legally or illegally? Until someone gets shot that is. Before if you saw a guy with a gun you call the cops, now you can't, because that would be harassment of a possibly law abiding citizen.

My solution is they have to wear their permits like badges.
How does anyone know the laptop a guy is carrying is legally owned by him our not? We should call the cops on anyone with a laptop even if that would be harrasing a "possibly" law abiding citizen.

My solution is they have to pin all their receipts to their jacket.


Or better yet, sew special emblems onto them, so the receipts don't fall off.




i60.tinypic.com
 
2014-04-27 08:43:47 PM  

doglover: Dimensio: redmid17: phalamir: Adolf Oliver Nipples: Mugato: Adolf Oliver Nipples: Getting a CCW permit is a lot more than forking $50 over to someone at a gun show.

Not really. I had to take a class for a couple hours, not have a felony on my record, I guess the same training as any cop has to take.

I had to give fingerprints, photographs, and references (which they check), and undergo a NICS check. Someone who willinglygives the police everything they need to identify them in the event of a crime isn't likely to commit any.

The number of repeat offenders pretty much disproves that.

Let me fix that for OP. The states that release statistics on CCW arrests (TX, NC, MI, FL) off the top of my head show an arrest rate a small fraction of that for the general population. DUI was the most common arrest. Violent crime is pretty much negligible.

I have been infromed by the Violence Policy Center that actual crime data regarding concealed weapons permit holders cannot be reasonably assessed because the National Rifle Association has worked to block states from releasing lists of the names and addresses of concealed weapons permit holders to anyone who asks.

However, the organization estimate that concealed weapons permit holders is much higher than claimed.

A political organization estimates the data that doesn't agree with their policy goals actually does agree with their policy goals and blames a rival political organization?

Ya don't say?


I am certain that the maths employed by the Violence Policy Center to arrive at their estimates are just as credible and as fact-based as the maths employed by conservative organizations who question the reported number of healthcare exchange sign-ups.
 
2014-04-27 08:43:56 PM  

redmid17: thisisarepeat: redmid17: thisisarepeat: redmid17: thisisarepeat: Adolf Oliver Nipples: Mugato: Adolf Oliver Nipples: and statistics have shown that permit holders are far less likely than the general population to commit violent crimes with guns

Yeah, giving $50 to some guy at a gun show makes you a responsible gun owner.

Getting a CCW permit is a lot more than forking $50 over to someone at a gun show.

Not a hell of a lot more.  I would like to see what the failure rate is for people that take the course to get the CHL.  If it is under 10% then they are just wasting everybody's time and they cancel the requirement.

What are the CCW application requirements in your state?

Dont be a felon.

oh and...no, thats all.

Unless you live in an constitutional carry state, you're missing a few things there.

Its a "shall issue" state.

Then you're missing still missing a few steps there.


Sorry I misunderstood "application" for "sign up for course".  Its a two day "dont take your gun here, here or there and 20 min at the range.  If you qualify with a revolver you can only carry a revolver if you qualify with an semi-automatic you can carry either.
 
2014-04-27 08:44:04 PM  

rzrwiresunrise: Pokey.Clyde: EvilEgg: My solution is they have to wear their permits like badges.

Kind of defeats the purpose of concealed carry, doesn't it?

/didn't think that one all the way through, did you?

Defeat the pupose of CCW? Kinda the point.

So who didn't think that through, now?


The badge could say, "Please don't ask me about my concealed weapon.  It's totally a secret."
 
2014-04-27 08:44:42 PM  

ZAZ: The law goes into effect July 1, according to CNN.


Not that it matters, if the bar owners put up a sign that says "no guns allowed hee-ya" then it's illegal to carry one in, and possibly on, the property.

Say, a sign like this one that's in front of the bar in TFA:

bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com

"Foster was shot and killed earlier this morning during an incident that happened at 3:15 a.m "

Pretty sure bars close at 0200 per state law.
 
2014-04-27 08:45:10 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2014-04-27 08:45:48 PM  
Pokey.Clyde:

LaurenAguilera: A laptop is hardly a deadly weapon that is frequently used in crime...

Neither is something like, say, a Barrett .50 cal. But there are people out there that would do almost anything to make civilian ownership of one illegal.



True, but this discussion is not on gun rights in general, just on carrying guns into bars. Now I'll be worried about getting shot AND getting waking up next to a stranger the next morning.
 
2014-04-27 08:45:59 PM  

thisisarepeat: redmid17: thisisarepeat: redmid17: thisisarepeat: redmid17: thisisarepeat: Adolf Oliver Nipples: Mugato: Adolf Oliver Nipples: and statistics have shown that permit holders are far less likely than the general population to commit violent crimes with guns

Yeah, giving $50 to some guy at a gun show makes you a responsible gun owner.

Getting a CCW permit is a lot more than forking $50 over to someone at a gun show.

Not a hell of a lot more.  I would like to see what the failure rate is for people that take the course to get the CHL.  If it is under 10% then they are just wasting everybody's time and they cancel the requirement.

What are the CCW application requirements in your state?

Dont be a felon.

oh and...no, thats all.

Unless you live in an constitutional carry state, you're missing a few things there.

Its a "shall issue" state.

Then you're missing still missing a few steps there.

Sorry I misunderstood "application" for "sign up for course".  Its a two day "dont take your gun here, here or there and 20 min at the range.  If you qualify with a revolver you can only carry a revolver if you qualify with an semi-automatic you can carry either.


You have to submit fingerprints along with undergoing a background check as well. That's what I was getting at.

Even if it isn't difficult, it's far more time consuming and more effort than favorited!ing down $50 at a gun show.
 
2014-04-27 08:46:28 PM  
Come on, who could have seen this coming?
 
2014-04-27 08:46:36 PM  

LaurenAguilera: Pokey.Clyde:

LaurenAguilera: A laptop is hardly a deadly weapon that is frequently used in crime...

Neither is something like, say, a Barrett .50 cal. But there are people out there that would do almost anything to make civilian ownership of one illegal.


True, but this discussion is not on gun rights in general, just on carrying guns into bars. Now I'll be worried about getting shot AND getting waking up next to a stranger the next morning.


My advice to you is to start drinking heavily.
 
2014-04-27 08:46:41 PM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: Mugato: Adolf Oliver Nipples: and statistics have shown that permit holders are far less likely than the general population to commit violent crimes with guns

Yeah, giving $50 to some guy at a gun show makes you a responsible gun owner.

Getting a CCW permit is a lot more than forking $50 over to someone at a gun show.


When I got mine in Forstyh County, Georgia, it was $70, some paperwork, then a trip around the corner to get fingerprinted.  It came in the mail 9 days later.  I woulnd't be unhappy with a requirement for a class but I'm glad i didn't have to pay for all that.  I already knew how to shoot (pretty well if i do say so myself) and I'd just as soon have it never leave the holster except for range time and monthly cleanin.
 
2014-04-27 08:48:46 PM  

walktoanarcade: Come on, who could have seen this coming?


Are you asking who, exactly, would have predicted a shooting in a bar at a time when carrying a firearm into a bar was prohibited by state law?
 
2014-04-27 08:48:55 PM  
i have to ask, what do CCW holders hope to accomplish with a law like this?

Not even figuring in the intoxication factor, bars are often crowded, it's loud, it's dark, sometimes there's pushing and shoving. If they were suddenly faced with the "bad guy with a gun" scenario they get excited over, it seems they'd be more likely to shoot someone who had nothing to do with it. FFS, even Old West Saloons didn't want firearms inside.

It's the same reason guns in movie theaters is a horrible idea.
 
2014-04-27 08:49:40 PM  

Mugato: Adolf Oliver Nipples: and statistics have shown that permit holders are far less likely than the general population to commit violent crimes with guns

Yeah, giving $50 to some guy at a gun show makes you a responsible gun owner.


We know, you hate guns and facts, fortunately for you, both will protect you.
 
2014-04-27 08:49:49 PM  

thisisarepeat: redmid17: thisisarepeat: Adolf Oliver Nipples: Mugato: Adolf Oliver Nipples: and statistics have shown that permit holders are far less likely than the general population to commit violent crimes with guns

Yeah, giving $50 to some guy at a gun show makes you a responsible gun owner.

Getting a CCW permit is a lot more than forking $50 over to someone at a gun show.

Not a hell of a lot more.  I would like to see what the failure rate is for people that take the course to get the CHL.  If it is under 10% then they are just wasting everybody's time and they cancel the requirement.

What are the CCW application requirements in your state?

Dont be a felon.

oh and...no, thats all.


In Georgia?  There's a lot more.  Can't be convicted of any domestic violence case.  Can't be drug addict or have drug convictions.  Can't be subject to a Civil Restraining Order.  Prior mental health history may disqualify you also.
 
2014-04-27 08:50:47 PM  
It's OK that he's dead because he was going to drive home drunk from the bar the 6.5 miles to his home.
The gunman was just saving the busload of pregnant nuns and orphans on US 27

/amidoingitright
 
2014-04-27 08:50:48 PM  

GORDON: Did the dude who got shot have it coming?  A lot of people in the world are figuratively begging to be shot, don't you think?


No! The shooter got kicked out of the club and was pissed off about it, so he got a gun (probably from his car) and went back in and started shooting randomly. The victim who died - who had just moved down here from PA a couple of weeks ago - was an innocent bystander, shot in the back of the head, fell with his hands still in his jeans pockets..........

/victim was my daughter's girlfriend's cousin.....the family is devastated.......
 
2014-04-27 08:51:44 PM  

BravadoGT: thisisarepeat: redmid17: thisisarepeat: Adolf Oliver Nipples: Mugato: Adolf Oliver Nipples: and statistics have shown that permit holders are far less likely than the general population to commit violent crimes with guns

Yeah, giving $50 to some guy at a gun show makes you a responsible gun owner.

Getting a CCW permit is a lot more than forking $50 over to someone at a gun show.

Not a hell of a lot more.  I would like to see what the failure rate is for people that take the course to get the CHL.  If it is under 10% then they are just wasting everybody's time and they cancel the requirement.

What are the CCW application requirements in your state?

Dont be a felon.

oh and...no, thats all.

In Georgia?  There's a lot more.  Can't be convicted of any domestic violence case.  Can't be drug addict or have drug convictions.  Can't be subject to a Civil Restraining Order.  Prior mental health history may disqualify you also.


Do you expect reasoned and educated individuals to believe that a person who is prohibited for one of those reasons could not simply obtain a permit without a background check through the concealed gun show loophole?
 
2014-04-27 08:52:35 PM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: For the record, you have always been able to carry a gun into a bar in Pennsylvania. No blood in the streets.

I think people make a big deal about this because as a rule alcohol and guns do not mix. On the face of it that would be a reasonable conclusion. However, the only people allowed to carry guns in Pennsylvania have permits, and statistics have shown that permit holders are far less likely than the general population to commit violent crimes with guns. I suspect that's the trend everywhere.

In the end it all cancels out.


So I guess you missed this thread from two days ago:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/04/25/bride-30-killed-21-year-old-nie ce -during-wedding-party-police-say/?cmpid=sem_fkfn
 
2014-04-27 08:52:45 PM  
Dimensio: walktoanarcade: Come on, who could have seen this coming?

Are you asking who, exactly, would have predicted a shooting in a bar at a time when carrying a firearm into a bar was prohibited by state law?

I was making a joke about the illogical notion of bringing a bang bang into a bar bar. :|
 
2014-04-27 08:53:15 PM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: For the record, you have always been able to carry a gun into a bar in Pennsylvania. No blood in the streets.

I think people make a big deal about this because as a rule alcohol and guns do not mix. On the face of it that would be a reasonable conclusion. However, the only people allowed to carry guns in Pennsylvania have permits, and statistics have shown that permit holders are far less likely than the general population to commit violent crimes with guns. I suspect that's the trend everywhere.

In the end it all cancels out.


Yup. There are dozens of states where carry in bars in legal (sometimes with permit, sometimes without), and in none is it a significant issue. Just like there are many states where it's legal to carry intoxicated, also without negative impacts beyond that of other states.

The bottom line is that firearms, or any types of weapons, have no causal relation to negative incidents, and never have. Unfortunately many seem unable to grasp this.
 
2014-04-27 08:53:26 PM  
New drinking game: someone gets shot ... do a shot.
 
2014-04-27 08:53:56 PM  

phalamir: Adolf Oliver Nipples: Mugato: Adolf Oliver Nipples: Getting a CCW permit is a lot more than forking $50 over to someone at a gun show.

Not really. I had to take a class for a couple hours, not have a felony on my record, I guess the same training as any cop has to take.

I had to give fingerprints, photographs, and references (which they check), and undergo a NICS check. Someone who gives the police everything they need to identify them in the event of a crime isn't likely to commit any.

The number of repeat offenders pretty much disproves that.


No, it doesn't. CCW holders give it to them voluntarily. Criminals get caught committing crimes. Apples and oranges.
 
2014-04-27 08:54:43 PM  

walktoanarcade: Dimensio: walktoanarcade: Come on, who could have seen this coming?

Are you asking who, exactly, would have predicted a shooting in a bar at a time when carrying a firearm into a bar was prohibited by state law?

I was making a joke about the illogical notion of bringing a bang bang into a bar bar. :|


As has been noted: carrying a firearm into a bar remains a crime in Georgia.
 
2014-04-27 08:55:20 PM  

HawgWild: Violence is the price we pay for our freedom ...

LaurenAguilera: Oh yay. This sh*t again.

SPOONS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE.

WHAAAAAARGARBL MY RIGHTS SECOND AMENDMENT WAJALFJLEFJJF


All we are asking for is the same enforcement they have with the 1st Amendment. Let us carry our weapons and if we use them incorrectly after the fact THEN hold us accountable.
 
2014-04-27 08:56:17 PM  

redmid17: thisisarepeat: redmid17: thisisarepeat: redmid17: thisisarepeat: redmid17: thisisarepeat: Adolf Oliver Nipples: Mugato: Adolf Oliver Nipples: and statistics have shown that permit holders are far less likely than the general population to commit violent crimes with guns

Yeah, giving $50 to some guy at a gun show makes you a responsible gun owner.

Getting a CCW permit is a lot more than forking $50 over to someone at a gun show.

Not a hell of a lot more.  I would like to see what the failure rate is for people that take the course to get the CHL.  If it is under 10% then they are just wasting everybody's time and they cancel the requirement.

What are the CCW application requirements in your state?

Dont be a felon.

oh and...no, thats all.

Unless you live in an constitutional carry state, you're missing a few things there.

Its a "shall issue" state.

Then you're missing still missing a few steps there.

Sorry I misunderstood "application" for "sign up for course".  Its a two day "dont take your gun here, here or there and 20 min at the range.  If you qualify with a revolver you can only carry a revolver if you qualify with an semi-automatic you can carry either.

You have to submit fingerprints along with undergoing a background check as well. That's what I was getting at.

Even if it isn't difficult, it's far more time consuming and more effort than favorited!ing down $50 at a gun show.


Perhaps i'm a little jaded but the state has my dd214 on file, they issued me a license plate that has a purple heart on it and yet they want me to sit and listen to some farkwad ex cop lecture me on firearms safety and personal responsibility then require me to pay to be fingerprinted (when my fingerprints, palm prints, photo and DNA are already on file with the feds.
 
2014-04-27 08:56:29 PM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: Mugato: Adolf Oliver Nipples: and statistics have shown that permit holders are far less likely than the general population to commit violent crimes with guns

Yeah, giving $50 to some guy at a gun show makes you a responsible gun owner.

Getting a CCW permit is a lot more than forking $50 over to someone at a gun show.


Not everywhere. In fact, In many states you don't even need to go through a permit process, and when you do it often requires nothing beyond forking over a few bucks and waiting on the basic background check. Some do require more, but not always.
 
2014-04-27 08:56:38 PM  

Dimensio: walktoanarcade: Dimensio: walktoanarcade: Come on, who could have seen this coming?

Are you asking who, exactly, would have predicted a shooting in a bar at a time when carrying a firearm into a bar was prohibited by state law?

I was making a joke about the illogical notion of bringing a bang bang into a bar bar. :|

As has been noted: carrying a firearm into a bar remains a crime in Georgia.


You must be a hit at parties.
 
2014-04-27 08:57:09 PM  
Georgia made it legal for men to fly to Mars without space ships.
Since that time, 6,000,000 people have left Earth and gone to space.
They all died and will vote for democrats in the next 27 elections.
 
2014-04-27 08:57:49 PM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: Mugato: Adolf Oliver Nipples: and statistics have shown that permit holders are far less likely than the general population to commit violent crimes with guns

Yeah, giving $50 to some guy at a gun show makes you a responsible gun owner.

Getting a CCW permit is a lot more than forking $50 over to someone at a gun show.


Depends what state you're in.

Florida, they require a training class and fingerprints, background check, etc.

Alabama, I just applied, got approved and paid $40 for a CCW permit for 2 years.
 
2014-04-27 08:58:37 PM  

Pokey.Clyde: You, apparently. There are plenty of reasons why concealed carry is much more widespread than open carry. One of those reasons is so that the panty-wetters like yourself don't run away screaming every time they see a gun. Concealed carry tends to alleviate that.


I'm fine with the ability of people to carry weapons, provided they are properly licensed, trained, insured, and paid all appropriate taxes.

Can I still run away screaming, just for sh**s and giggles?
 
2014-04-27 08:58:53 PM  

EnderX: HawgWild: Violence is the price we pay for our freedom ...
LaurenAguilera: Oh yay. This sh*t again.

SPOONS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE.

WHAAAAAARGARBL MY RIGHTS SECOND AMENDMENT WAJALFJLEFJJF

All we are asking for is the same enforcement they have with the 1st Amendment. Let us carry our weapons and if we use them incorrectly after the fact THEN hold us accountable.


I suppose the problem with that is, if you've used it incorrectly to, say, harm someone else... that's a pretty sh*tty deal. I don't really care either way, I had enough of guns and things in the military. I don't like seeing horrible things in the news that could have been prevented with maybe a mental health check, or a background check.
 
2014-04-27 09:00:02 PM  

jehovahs witness protection: Georgia made it legal for men to fly to Mars without space ships.
Since that time, 6,000,000 people have left Earth and gone to space.
They all died and will vote for democrats in the next 27 elections.


This is actually kind of fun if you read it in 60's folk rock troubadour Donovan's voice
 
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