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(Krebs On Security)   Microsoft issues warning of yet another zero-day vulnerability, in all IE versions, that facilitates silent installation of malicious software. Please don't panic, however, as they have given assurances they have no idea when or if it will be fixed   (krebsonsecurity.com) divider line 71
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2014-04-27 06:50:57 PM
Technically, this is Flash's fault, so can we blame Adobe?  I really, really don't like Adobe.
 
2014-04-27 07:07:38 PM
I spent the better portion of last night getting around MS's little XP end of service Lag bomb on this lap top.I generally don't really give a shiat..


wait.. IE? I don't use IE... my level of giving a fark has been dramatically reduced. .
 
2014-04-27 07:19:37 PM
IE? Is that some sort of software?

/Firefox
 
2014-04-27 07:36:13 PM
Seriously, who the heck is using IE?! I mean, c'mon!
 
2014-04-27 07:43:40 PM
Ha, ha!  I'm using Netscape Navigator.
 
2014-04-27 07:46:18 PM

Cpl.D: Ha, ha!  I'm using Netscape Navigator.


so... firefox?
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-04-27 07:48:38 PM
IE? Is that some sort of software?

You sound unemployed.

Big organizations love IE.
 
2014-04-27 07:49:50 PM

HawgWild: Seriously, who the heck is using IE?! I mean, c'mon!


A great deal of 3rd party business websites and software won't function with Chrome or Firefox.  Most of those companies don't want to put in the time and money to write to multiple browsers for user bases that can be told to use a specific browser.
 
2014-04-27 07:51:10 PM
If you are still using Internet Exploder, you're an eeeediot!
 
2014-04-27 07:51:23 PM

ZAZ: IE? Is that some sort of software?

You sound unemployed.

Big organizations love IE.


Ugh. Don't I know it.
 
2014-04-27 07:52:44 PM

ZAZ: IE? Is that some sort of software?

You sound unemployed.

Big organizations love IE.


I wouldn't say they love IE, I think it's more to the notion that they are beholden to use it due to contracts with MS and various interprise stuff..

but.. I'm a brewer, not an IT guy so.. there ya go...
 
2014-04-27 08:03:13 PM
I only use IE at work....because I have to for intranet stuff, internet is all FireFox or Chrome.

/worked on IE 2.0
//Had to dial out through modems to test because corpnet had no IP
 
2014-04-27 08:04:58 PM

HawgWild: Seriously, who the heck is using IE?! I mean, c'mon!


IE 10 and 11 are actually pretty good.  I still prefer Opera because I've been using it forever, but I'd use IE10+ over Firefox, which just seems to have gone way downhill.
 
2014-04-27 08:07:57 PM
it works fine on Win7, XP, not so much
 
2014-04-27 08:12:29 PM
Even if you don't use IE, I bet this affects any desktop app that uses an IWebBrowser2 control.
 
2014-04-27 08:14:16 PM

Cerebral Knievel: Cpl.D: Ha, ha!  I'm using Netscape Navigator.

so... firefox?


fixitwizkid.com
 
2014-04-27 08:14:22 PM

Cerebral Knievel: I wouldn't say they love IE, I think it's more to the notion that they are beholden to use it due to contracts with MS and various interprise stuff..


They use it because in-house software development teams frequently (or always, in my professional career) only program for one browser, two at most.  So they choose the ones that come with the most popular OSes - IE and Safari.  Not only that, but they'll get stupid lazy about updating the code so you'll not only be stuck with IE, you'll be stuck with a particular version of IE until they decide to update.  I think my old company required IE6 until 2012.
 
2014-04-27 08:19:58 PM
So you have to be running Internet Explorer AND Adobe Flash to be vulnerable to this?  Thats like saying your door has to be unlocked at all times AND you need to post addressed signs around town stating that fact.  Using IE to leverage a flash exploit is like using a MOAB to set off a nuke.  If you have to run IE for your intranet stuff then for the love of god don't install flash for it and while your at it lock that sucker down tight.
 
2014-04-27 08:42:11 PM

ZAZ: IE? Is that some sort of software?

You sound unemployed.

Big organizations love IE.


There's a large, large difference between loving something and being so technologically inept as to not know there's better web browsers in existence.

/Still, IE was better than it was.
 
2014-04-27 08:47:13 PM
Count me among the "stuck with IE at work" crowd. Our Intranet uses it, and it is the only browser installed on our work computers.
 
2014-04-27 08:48:38 PM
Oh, and they know there are other browsers, but are just meh about them.
 
2014-04-27 08:59:52 PM

ZAZ: IE? Is that some sort of software?

You sound unemployed.

Big organizations love IE.


Ha, my NYSE-listed employer migrated us all to Chrome months ago.

Which isn't great but still.

I wonder if we get a push on Monday!
 
2014-04-27 09:16:19 PM

Cerebral Knievel: ZAZ: IE? Is that some sort of software?

You sound unemployed.

Big organizations love IE.

I wouldn't say they love IE, I think it's more to the notion that they are beholden to use it due to contracts with MS and various interprise stuff..

but.. I'm a brewer, not an IT guy so.. there ya go...


I like that -- sounds all smoke-filled back room and conspiratorial.

The truth is so much stupider: they usually don't know any better.
 
2014-04-27 09:22:01 PM
One of the suggestions in TFA is to install EMET 4.1 from Microsoft.  I'm running Win7 Pro x64 w/IE11 (I only use IE if a site refuses to work properly with AdBlock+ and NoScript in Firefox or Chrome).  After installing EMET with the recommended options, here's what I get when trying to access any website from IE.  So, problem solved!
img.fark.net
 
2014-04-27 09:49:33 PM
If they can't use IE on XP, how will XP users get to the Windows Update page?
 
2014-04-27 09:55:47 PM
firefox has gone downhill.  I'll use ie11 before I ever use firefox again.
 
2014-04-27 10:06:39 PM

Vlad_the_Inaner: If they can't use IE on XP, how will XP users get to the Windows Update page?


img3.wikia.nocookie.net

/or, they could, you know, use any one of the three operating systems Microsoft has released for desktop systems in the last 12 years
 
2014-04-27 10:10:09 PM
If we've said it once we've said it a brazillion times IE IS malware
 
2014-04-27 10:20:23 PM

TuteTibiImperes: HawgWild: Seriously, who the heck is using IE?! I mean, c'mon!

IE 10 and 11 are actually pretty good.  I still prefer Opera because I've been using it forever, but I'd use IE10+ over Firefox, which just seems to have gone way downhill.


I agree. Although I generally use chrome. I only have Firefox installed because of certain capability issues with some apps (ironically). Firefox has really gone to shiat.
 
2014-04-27 10:22:19 PM

maltedmothball: If we've said it once we've said it a brazillion times IE IS malware




Then you are an idiot.
 
2014-04-27 10:25:58 PM
After years of being chained to IE 6 because out in-house apps only work with it, then reluctantly updating some things to IE8, suddenly they've installed Google Chrome on all machines and are rewriting all our user tools to be comparable with it.

I'm thinking someone higher up got hacked.
 
2014-04-27 10:30:32 PM

Lsherm: Technically, this is Flash's fault, so can we blame Adobe?  I really, really don't like Adobe.


I had to buy Adobe Acrobat last week.  What a farking pain in the ass.  Even their checkout process is broken.  And the emails had double-encoded characters.  Good jorb, idiots.
 
2014-04-27 10:33:44 PM
Anyone's thoughts on Maxthon?
 
2014-04-27 10:54:01 PM

gingerjet: maltedmothball: If we've said it once we've said it a brazillion times IE IS malware

Then you are an idiot.


Well, honestly, at one point in time, he would have been right.

Lately, not as much, but still...
 
2014-04-27 11:26:09 PM
about:config
 
2014-04-27 11:35:45 PM
Marine1:
/or, they could, you know, use any one of the three operating systems Microsoft has released for desktop systems in the last 12 years

Win7 has been a festival of malware attacks for me, never had a problem with XP.  I only use Win7 because Windows Live Move Maker is the simplest free video editing software that will deal with h.264 video.  WMM for XP won't touch it.

/posted from a laptop running XP
/doubts that Fujitsu has bothered to make Win7 drivers for this thing
 
2014-04-27 11:36:29 PM

Mister Peejay: Marine1:
/or, they could, you know, use any one of the three operating systems Microsoft has released for desktop systems in the last 12 years

Win7 has been a festival of malware attacks for me, never had a problem with XP.  I only use Win7 because Windows Live Move Maker is the simplest free video editing software that will deal with h.264 video.  WMM for XP won't touch it.

/posted from a laptop running XP
/doubts that Fujitsu has bothered to make Win7 drivers for this thing


... and?
 
2014-04-27 11:42:42 PM

Marine1: Vlad_the_Inaner: If they can't use IE on XP, how will XP users get to the Windows Update page?

[img3.wikia.nocookie.net image 452x339]

/or, they could, you know, use any one of the three operating systems Microsoft has released for desktop systems in the last 12 years


And yet XPcame installed on the Acer Revo AR1600 I bought new in 2009.
 
2014-04-27 11:58:41 PM
Mister Peejay:

Win7 has been a festival of malware attacks for me, never had a problem with XP. 
/posted from a laptop running XP



Xp is easier to modify [control] than 7
That 7 has as many vuln. as xp ever did should tell you something...
and, 8 is also proving easy to hack, but users have a much tougher time fixing it on their own.

you can get xp lite, and set up an xp that has no IE in it at all.
Un reg vml... like so many other un regs...

i havn't played the update game in 3+ yrs... LoL
The trend at msft and other software sources is to remove control from individuals.
w-7 & 8 is a good example.
The day of the ordinary citizen geek is fading fast.
 
2014-04-28 12:44:20 AM
HA! My company is STILL using IE6!

Seriously, I'm just waiting fora giant security breach. At least they're testing IE8 now.
 
2014-04-28 12:47:20 AM

TuteTibiImperes: HawgWild: Seriously, who the heck is using IE?! I mean, c'mon!

IE 10 and 11 are actually pretty good.  I still prefer Opera because I've been using it forever, but I'd use IE10+ over Firefox, which just seems to have gone way downhill.


Came here to say this. IE 10 and 11 are pretty sweet, particularly on touch devices. Chrome's full screen Windows 8/8.1 app makes me stabby.

IE 11 on Windows Phone 8.1 is really good, too.

/Microsoft employee, but these are my opinions only.
 
2014-04-28 12:53:43 AM

kittyhas1000legs: . At least they're testing IE8 now.


*blink blink*
 
2014-04-28 12:59:13 AM

Bloody Templar: TuteTibiImperes: HawgWild: Seriously, who the heck is using IE?! I mean, c'mon!

IE 10 and 11 are actually pretty good.  I still prefer Opera because I've been using it forever, but I'd use IE10+ over Firefox, which just seems to have gone way downhill.

Came here to say this. IE 10 and 11 are pretty sweet, particularly on touch devices. Chrome's full screen Windows 8/8.1 app makes me stabby.

IE 11 on Windows Phone 8.1 is really good, too.

/Microsoft employee, but these are my opinions only.


Mobile IE10 is the best mobile browser I've used.  Having had to recently switch from WP8 to Android I've been very disappointed with the options there.  Opera for Android is pretty good, but it has some stability issues.
 
2014-04-28 01:29:33 AM
A'weeeeee!

stream1.gifsoup.com
 
2014-04-28 02:45:30 AM
 
2014-04-28 04:22:16 AM

Cerebral Knievel: ZAZ: IE? Is that some sort of software?

You sound unemployed.

Big organizations love IE.

I wouldn't say they love IE, I think it's more to the notion that they are beholden to use it due to contracts with MS and various interprise stuff..

but.. I'm a brewer, not an IT guy so.. there ya go...


I think it is more like it is easier to support computers, test new software  and train with only of each type of software application rather than letting users each choose their own combinations of anything that is available. IE will be that choice for browsers for virtually all businesses, largely because of inertia.
 
2014-04-28 05:49:55 AM
For now, it is urging IE users to download and install its Enhanced Mitigation Experience Toolkit (EMET), a free tool that can help beef up security on Windows.

You know, if your product wasn't a piece of sh/t to start off with, you wouldn't need EMET and Windows Defender and Windows Firewall and UAC and Malicious Software Removal Tool and MSE bandaids. Almost thirty years, 90% of the market and people are still dealing with this crap.
 
2014-04-28 05:55:36 AM
I don't use a browser.  I type hexadecimal code into a Casio calculator.  Then I re-type the output at my local library (Minoqcua, Wi).  They could'nt find me if they tried.
 
2014-04-28 07:03:49 AM
Wait, this is am IE bug and they're beating the XP-won't-get-patched drum? Isn't this an update to *IE*? What am I missing?
 
2014-04-28 07:15:47 AM

Bloody Templar: TuteTibiImperes: HawgWild: Seriously, who the heck is using IE?! I mean, c'mon!

IE 10 and 11 are actually pretty good.  I still prefer Opera because I've been using it forever, but I'd use IE10+ over Firefox, which just seems to have gone way downhill.

Came here to say this. IE 10 and 11 are pretty sweet, particularly on touch devices. Chrome's full screen Windows 8/8.1 app makes me stabby.

IE 11 on Windows Phone 8.1 is really good, too.

/Microsoft employee, but these are my opinions only.


Yeah chrome on 8.1 drove me insane, then I just uninstalled it and reinstalled and it was fine, no app shelf. I'm guessing it had something to do with the 8.1 update when it 'automatically' updates your apps and sees chrome it just goes ahead and installs the app shelf. But you work for MS, you'd probably know better.
 
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