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2014-04-27 06:16:28 PM
Doing nothing IS the plan.
 
2014-04-27 06:23:29 PM
But don't let this dissuade you. The GOP totally means it when they say repeal and *replace*.
 
2014-04-27 07:26:47 PM
Sneaky lies are their favorite, I mean the out and out lie is fun, but the half truth is so much more effective.
 
2014-04-27 07:28:50 PM
Not a single one of those 750,000 people will feel the pain and suffering of the 750,000 people who died at Benghazi.  That's the difference.
 
2014-04-27 07:30:04 PM
And the Demoncrats needs to be running adds reminding everyone of this.
 
2014-04-27 07:36:02 PM
Ric Romero reporting.
 
2014-04-27 07:40:21 PM
So what? The point is to push the ideology, not provide healthcare for citizens. If Floridians wanted their families to see doctors, they'd vote differently.
 
2014-04-27 07:43:53 PM

Notabunny: So what? The point is to push the ideology, not provide healthcare for citizens. If Floridians wanted their families to see doctors, they'd vote differently.


That's been covered, too - just implement a bunch of new laws that make it harder for these people to vote.  It's a win-win!
 
2014-04-27 07:46:05 PM
Oh, sure, lives are at stake but only poor people lives. They're mostly not even white and don't have anything worth living for anyway, now that there providing them with long-term sustainable employment opportunities.

Probably the best solution is to bust a union, a teacher's one if possible, and maybe some "investment incentives" for "job creators." Oh, and cut food stamps, because when they get hungry enough they'll go buy insurance.
 
2014-04-27 07:47:30 PM
Is there any way to make the uninsured have to take piss tests and pay for it themselves? That might help.
 
2014-04-27 07:48:33 PM
I don't disagree with this guy, but if Blue Team decides to run with this, it needs to sound less melodramatic.

/$0.02
 
2014-04-27 07:49:05 PM
In short, your state leaders lied when they told you they would come up with an alternative to Medicaid expansion.

swtor.gamingfeeds.com

Many Republicans governors did not 'come up with' an alternative to the medicaid expansion.  They plagiarized an alternative:
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2014-04-27 07:53:36 PM

Mike_LowELL: Not a single one of those 750,000 people will feel the pain and suffering of the 750,000 people who died at Benghazi.  That's the difference.


It did save 750,000 elderly people from the Death Panels though. So it's got that.
 
2014-04-27 07:58:07 PM
jindal told folks the "oh noes somehow somewhere it will ruin the state budget" lie. all the while campaigning all over the nation on how he turned it down. so to curry favor with the base he screwed 250,000 of his fellow citizens out of healthcare.
 
2014-04-27 08:03:50 PM

winterbraid: I don't disagree with this guy, but if Blue Team decides to run with this, it needs to sound less melodramatic.

/$0.02


Like what? Three-quarters of a million people would be insured if Republicans hadn't blocked Medicaid expansion. It's kind of hard to tone down a fact.
 
2014-04-27 08:05:22 PM
While on some level I understand that the Republican's policies may impact me in a negative way, the misanthropic side of me applauds their approach to governance.
 
2014-04-27 08:08:49 PM

DeaH: winterbraid: I don't disagree with this guy, but if Blue Team decides to run with this, it needs to sound less melodramatic.

/$0.02

Like what? Three-quarters of a million people would be insured if Republicans hadn't blocked Medicaid expansion. It's kind of hard to tone down a fact.


Three-quarters of a million FLORIDIANS... so it's OK.
 
2014-04-27 08:13:45 PM

media.cmgdigital.com

"This is my bald face."

/It's funny, ya see, because he's bald!
 
2014-04-27 08:21:48 PM

DeaH: winterbraid: I don't disagree with this guy, but if Blue Team decides to run with this, it needs to sound less melodramatic.

/$0.02

Like what? Three-quarters of a million people would be insured if Republicans hadn't blocked Medicaid expansion. It's kind of hard to tone down a fact.


He led with a paragraph about lying. I'd cut it and open with what you said.

Three-quarters of a million people would be insured if Republicans hadn't blocked Medicaid expansion.

Turn that into a 30 second spot. Stock photos of unhappy children, maybe in a hospital setup, a few parent testimonials, done. Easy peasy.
 
2014-04-27 08:24:37 PM
The check's in your mouth. I won't come in the mail.
 
2014-04-27 08:27:35 PM
A sneaky lie?  I didn't know Obama was also part Asian.
 
2014-04-27 08:30:27 PM
Creepiest thing ever! Ahhhh!
i.imgur.com
 
2014-04-27 08:31:38 PM
And people believed it because it sounded like what they wanted to believe.
 
2014-04-27 08:32:25 PM
The Tampa Bay Times has become virulently anti-Republican during Scott's term. I don't blame him. Governor Bizarro Luthor and his cronies in the state legislature have done everything short of physically raping Floridians.

My father is one of the people being personally harmed by these assholes. When people ask "Why don't Millennials vote Republican? It's because young people are stupid, hurr durr," all I have to do is point out how Republicans are actively conspiring to hurt my family to explain it.
 
2014-04-27 08:46:38 PM

Mike_LowELL: Not a single one of those 750,000 people will feel the pain and suffering of the 750,000 people who died at Benghazi.  That's the difference.


Sometimes i love you
i.imgur.com
 
2014-04-27 08:47:07 PM

winterbraid: DeaH: winterbraid: I don't disagree with this guy, but if Blue Team decides to run with this, it needs to sound less melodramatic.

/$0.02

Like what? Three-quarters of a million people would be insured if Republicans hadn't blocked Medicaid expansion. It's kind of hard to tone down a fact.

He led with a paragraph about lying. I'd cut it and open with what you said.

Three-quarters of a million people would be insured if Republicans hadn't blocked Medicaid expansion.

Turn that into a 30 second spot. Stock photos of unhappy children, maybe in a hospital setup, a few parent testimonials, done. Easy peasy.


Why just point out the 3/4 million when you can point out the 3/4 million AND show footage of them saying they would come up with something?

Remind Floridians that they elected these guys to do a specific job, and they haven't.
 
2014-04-27 08:47:49 PM

soseussme: Is there any way to make the uninsured have to take piss tests and pay for it themselves? That might help.


Only if Lex Luthor's wife owned an insurance company.
 
2014-04-27 08:49:09 PM

Satanic_Hamster: And the Demoncrats needs to be running adds reminding everyone of this.


but they won't because they will be too busy reloading the gun they keep shooting themselves in the foot with.
 
2014-04-27 08:54:01 PM

shanrick: Creepiest thing ever! Ahhhh!
[i.imgur.com image 711x498]


YOU IN CARCOSA NOW, CHILD!!
 
2014-04-27 08:57:25 PM

Empty Matchbook: shanrick: Creepiest thing ever! Ahhhh!
[i.imgur.com image 711x498]

YOU IN CARCOSA NOW, CHILD!!


I swear to god I never knew how scary black grandmas could be
 
2014-04-27 08:59:54 PM

shanrick: Creepiest thing ever! Ahhhh!
[i.imgur.com image 711x498]


Am I the only one who thinks Fire Marshall Bill looks like Rick Scott?

scienceblogs.com
 
2014-04-27 09:14:23 PM

captainktainer: The Tampa Bay Times has become virulently anti-Republican during Scott's term. I don't blame him. Governor Bizarro Luthor and his cronies in the state legislature have done everything short of physically raping Floridians.

My father is one of the people being personally harmed by these assholes. When people ask "Why don't Millennials vote Republican? It's because young people are stupid, hurr durr," all I have to do is point out how Republicans are actively conspiring to hurt my family to explain it.


Millennials don't vote Republican because they are, by far, the most well-informed generation in history. They may lack some degree of work ethic, but we need to stop thinking that we have enough stuff to do to have everyone working 40+ hours a week anyway.
 
2014-04-27 09:18:52 PM

winterbraid: Turn that into a 30 second spot. Stock photos of unhappy children, maybe in a hospital setup, a few parent testimonials, done. Easy peasy.


Grainy black and white pictures of prominent Republicans, Carmina Burana "O Fortuna" in the background....that should do it
 
2014-04-27 09:41:32 PM

shanrick: Creepiest thing ever! Ahhhh!
[i.imgur.com image 711x498]


i28.photobucket.com
 
2014-04-27 09:47:46 PM

a particular individual: shanrick: Creepiest thing ever! Ahhhh!
[i.imgur.com image 711x498]

Am I the only one who thinks Fire Marshall Bill looks like Rick Scott?

[scienceblogs.com image 445x447]


I always thought Scott looked like a young Burns.
media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com
 
2014-04-27 09:52:59 PM

blastoh: Satanic_Hamster: And the Demoncrats needs to be running adds reminding everyone of this.

but they won't because they will be too busy reloading the gun they keep shooting themselves in the foot with.


Is Martha Coakley running their campaign?
 
2014-04-27 10:12:16 PM
Conservatives have nothing to offer except lies.
 
2014-04-27 10:28:36 PM

blastoh: Satanic_Hamster: And the Demoncrats needs to be running adds reminding everyone of this.

but they won't because they will be too busy reloading the gun they keep shooting themselves in the foot with.


Yep.

If they had half a brain, it would be non-stop pointing out the moral reasons to expand medicade, the fiscal reasons, etc etc.
 
2014-04-27 10:30:39 PM

moothemagiccow: Empty Matchbook: shanrick: Creepiest thing ever! Ahhhh!
[i.imgur.com image 711x498]

YOU IN CARCOSA NOW, CHILD!!

I swear to god I never knew how scary black grandmas could be


The SECOND I heard The King in Yellow referenced on that show, I thought "Wait WHAT is this show about???

/huuuuuge fan of Lovecraft's work
 
2014-04-27 11:24:10 PM

Empty Matchbook: moothemagiccow: Empty Matchbook: shanrick: Creepiest thing ever! Ahhhh!
[i.imgur.com image 711x498]

YOU IN CARCOSA NOW, CHILD!!

I swear to god I never knew how scary black grandmas could be

The SECOND I heard The King in Yellow referenced on that show, I thought "Wait WHAT is this show about???

/huuuuuge fan of Lovecraft's work


Have you read Robert W Chambers' "King in Yellow?"
 
2014-04-27 11:44:52 PM

Lionel Mandrake: Empty Matchbook: moothemagiccow: Empty Matchbook: shanrick: Creepiest thing ever! Ahhhh!
[i.imgur.com image 711x498]

YOU IN CARCOSA NOW, CHILD!!

I swear to god I never knew how scary black grandmas could be

The SECOND I heard The King in Yellow referenced on that show, I thought "Wait WHAT is this show about???

/huuuuuge fan of Lovecraft's work

Have you read Robert W Chambers' "King in Yellow?"


Not from cover-to-cover, but I've looked up bits and pieces of it. I didn't get big into the "apocryphal" stuff as much as Lovecraft proper, but I've always meant to.
 
2014-04-27 11:50:20 PM

Empty Matchbook: Lionel Mandrake: Empty Matchbook: moothemagiccow: Empty Matchbook: shanrick: Creepiest thing ever! Ahhhh!
[i.imgur.com image 711x498]

YOU IN CARCOSA NOW, CHILD!!

I swear to god I never knew how scary black grandmas could be

The SECOND I heard The King in Yellow referenced on that show, I thought "Wait WHAT is this show about???

/huuuuuge fan of Lovecraft's work

Have you read Robert W Chambers' "King in Yellow?"

Not from cover-to-cover, but I've looked up bits and pieces of it. I didn't get big into the "apocryphal" stuff as much as Lovecraft proper, but I've always meant to.


Chambers wrote before Lovecraft.  It was Chambers that influenced Lovecraft.  Most of C's stuff isn't that good, IMHO, but "The Repairer of Reputations"  is classic "weird fiction."  His stuff is all public domain if you ever want to give it a look.
 
2014-04-27 11:55:42 PM
Article is such a bald faced lie.

The Republicans have been moving forward constantly with their alternative healthcare plan: Give more money to the rich.

You might say that this seems eerily familiar to the Republican Tax plan, or the Republican Economic Stimulus and Recovery plan, or the Republican Environmental Protection plan, among others, and I'm not going to lie, they are similar...

Ok, that was a lie- they aren't similar, it's all the same plan.
 
2014-04-28 01:31:31 AM

Spaceballer: a particular individual: shanrick: Creepiest thing ever! Ahhhh!
[i.imgur.com image 711x498]

Am I the only one who thinks Fire Marshall Bill looks like Rick Scott?

[scienceblogs.com image 445x447]

I always thought Scott looked like a young Burns.


He (Scott) doesn't have enough hair.
 
2014-04-28 02:44:41 AM

Neeek: captainktainer: The Tampa Bay Times has become virulently anti-Republican during Scott's term. I don't blame him. Governor Bizarro Luthor and his cronies in the state legislature have done everything short of physically raping Floridians.

My father is one of the people being personally harmed by these assholes. When people ask "Why don't Millennials vote Republican? It's because young people are stupid, hurr durr," all I have to do is point out how Republicans are actively conspiring to hurt my family to explain it.

Millennials don't vote Republican because they are, by far, the most well-informed generation in history. They may lack some degree of work ethic, but we need to stop thinking that we have enough stuff to do to have everyone working 40+ hours a week anyway.


Having access to the internet and social media helps. But it also goes both ways too. I can't tell you how many times I've had to correct people on false talking points they've been posting on Facebook or other. Can't tell you how many times I've had to point out that people are linking stories that are just FWD:FWD: discredit stories.
 
2014-04-28 05:21:41 AM

Satanic_Hamster: blastoh: Satanic_Hamster: And the Demoncrats needs to be running adds reminding everyone of this.

but they won't because they will be too busy reloading the gun they keep shooting themselves in the foot with.

Yep.

If they had half a brain, it would be non-stop pointing out the moral reasons to expand medicade, the fiscal reasons, etc etc.


That wouldn't win votes.

Democrats already have the voters of good conscience.
 
2014-04-28 06:24:33 AM
Hey, they only need to keep the lie up long enough for the current generation of poor people to get sick and die.  The next generation, as products of the gutted, "faith" based educational system won't be smart enough to question what's going on, so they can drop the lie then.
 
2014-04-28 06:40:04 AM

Without Fail: That wouldn't win votes.

Democrats already have the voters of good conscience.


There's a lot of poor ignorant right wingers.  Ones who will blame their lack of healthcare on "the liberals" and don't think Medicaid is a fiscally responsible program.
 
2014-04-28 06:44:30 AM
FTFA: "We will stand up to their inflexible plan and we'll work on our own solution, one that better reflects the needs and priorities of our state,'' Rep. Will Weatherford, R-Wesley Chapel, said in a speech some 13 months ago.

Yet the House and Senate made it through the entire 2013 legislative session without a solution. And with the 2014 session soon to end, they'll be on a two-year useless streak.

What's worse? This time, they didn't even try.


That is because they don't have a solution of their own except that if you are poor you die, and if you are middle class you go broke trying not to die. It's almost as if they prefer a system that doesn't "waste" money on the "poors" and sucks every last penny from those who have worked all their lives but are not independently wealthy before they die. (Kind of like a healthcare version of a reverse mortgage.)
 
2014-04-28 07:47:18 AM

Mike_LowELL: Not a single one of those 750,000 people will feel the pain and suffering of the 750,000 people who died at Benghazi.  That's the difference.


True.  They'll be feeling a different, elongated pain and suffering period before death.

/Yes, I know he's a poe.  Look at his handle for farks sake.  It's pretty obvious.
 
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