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2014-04-27 05:12:15 PM  

Duke_leto_Atredes: Ok we compromise; fire the ru muncher, recall the mayor. Promote a heterosexual white male to chief. Then elect a flamer as mayor. Then both people in the story have had their 15 and go away.


Yeah, it is pretty attention-whorey to complain about being railroaded out of your job by a bigoted mayor.
 
2014-04-27 05:13:34 PM  
Just picturing lesbian police abusing their authority really gets me worked up.

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2014-04-27 05:18:32 PM  

Duke_leto_Atredes: Ok we compromise; fire the ru muncher, recall the mayor. Promote a heterosexual white male to chief. Then elect a flamer as mayor. Then both people in the story have had their 15 and go away.


At least you're consistent...
 
2014-04-27 05:24:13 PM  

Serious Black: If that's true I feel like they should both lose there jobs.  Him for corruption and her for abusing her authority.  Wonder what she had against the mayors friend.

Isn't that exactly her authority?

Cops can't run a background check without cause.  Seems like she might have been trying to make the mayor look bad IDK.

The gentleman in question (the parks guy) was in the process of getting cited for reckless driving when the background check was run... the fact that he had a prior DUI was relevant and discovered in the normal course of police work. The chief ran the check, but she wasn't the cop who pulled the guy over for reckless driving... that said, I don't think it's uncommon to have officers other than the one making the st ...

The story said she was written up for running background checks without cause.  I'm not just making up things here.  I don't know where you're getting this reckless drink thing though.  Maybe a link would help.


Here's your sign.

http://www.charlestoncitypaper.com/charleston/lattas-mayor-fired-the- p olice-chief-but-town-council-is-fighting-back/Content?oid=4908655


It said the parks guy was arrested on suspicion of DUI and plead guilty to reckless driving in 2013 in another jurisdiction.  So her background check in 2014 was CLEARLY APPROPRIATE?  That's my sarcastic voice.
 
2014-04-27 05:24:40 PM  

firefly212: billwill: Really doubt she was fired for being a lesbian but it might get her job back.  We're not getting the whole story here.  Politics at play here I would guess.  Like she did something to undermine the Mayor.

She ran a background check... he hired his friend to be department of parks and recreation head, but his friend had a DUI, which would have prevented him from having that job... the mayor failed to run the background check, the chief ran it... friend got fired. Then the mayor went on a homophobic tyrade about how they're not trustworthy and he'd rather leave kids with drunks than gays, wrote her up 7 times in the same day, and fired her after she spent 20 years on the force with an unblemished record. Maybe him hating lesbians was unrelated, and he was just firing her because she exposed his corruption, but it's not like either option is good for him.  No matter though, the town council already stripped him of all but ceremonial responsibilities, in their june meeting, it's on the table to more permanently strip whoever is mayor of those powers, that way the council would have to have a public vote on hiring/firing department chiefs including parks, fire, and police.


So, he's hiding his cronyism behind a facade of bigotry. Interesting choice.
 
2014-04-27 05:24:53 PM  

billwill: Really doubt she was fired for being a lesbian but it might get her job back.  We're not getting the whole story here.  Politics at play here I would guess.  Like she did something to undermine the Mayor.


The mayor made a number of open statements more or less outright admitting that he fired her over dislike of her personal lifestyle, mostly but not entirely the lesbian thing.

It was not a subtle "no cause stated" type of firing, while the man somehow managed to muster all the limited power of his two intact brain cells to not say word-for-word "I fired her because of her sexual orientation" he did more or less state it outright, on the record, in public, multiple times.

In SC, that's legal, sure.  Just unethical.  The response, citizens advocating a recall of the mayor and generally telling him to shape the fark up, is  also legal.  He's an employee of the voters and by the same law he's abusing to get rid of teh homos they're entirely within their rights to hold an election and boot him because of his bigoted personal beliefs.  Sucks to not have legal protection of your unpopular subculture, dunnit?
 
2014-04-27 05:31:42 PM  

Sum Dum Gai: billwill: Really doubt she was fired for being a lesbian but it might get her job back.  We're not getting the whole story here.  Politics at play here I would guess.  Like she did something to undermine the Mayor.

A month earlier, she arrested someone the mayor had just hired to work with children, and she found and included in her report that the mayor's office hadn't done any background checks on the guy, which should have been legally required.

So yeah, probably not actually fired for being a lesbian, but more for making the mayor look bad in public.


If any of that is true then it's still complete justified that the mayor end up with egg on his face in this instance.
 
2014-04-27 05:33:40 PM  

billwill: It said the parks guy was arrested on suspicion of DUI and plead guilty to reckless driving in 2013 in another jurisdiction.  So her background check in 2014 was CLEARLY APPROPRIATE?  That's my sarcastic voice.


Running a background check on someone that's been given a job that requires a background check, when that background check wasn't performed/ordered by the mayor's office despite being  legally required, is appropriate, yes.  In fact, if the Sheriff  didn't do it she'd technically be guilty of a misdemeanor.

Even if she didn't suspect any shenanigans at all (possibly, she didn't), she is legally obligated to do this when going over the records and noticing that one of the required prerequisites of the job hadn't been met.  In fact, noticing the problem and correcting it is a big credit to her professionalism and thoroughness (getting things done that are supposed to be done even when other officials drop the ball, in this case failing to fill out the paperwork telling the sheriff to perform the check).

... also, why exactly do you think a background check turning something up after a crime is committed is suspicious timing, exactly?  Do you live somewhere where background checks bring up future crimes?

// Even if all of the above wasn't the case, hearing by word of mouth from another official about the DUI actually constitutes probable cause for the records check in itself.
 
2014-04-27 05:34:49 PM  

billwill: Serious Black: If that's true I feel like they should both lose there jobs.  Him for corruption and her for abusing her authority.  Wonder what she had against the mayors friend.

Isn't that exactly her authority?

Cops can't run a background check without cause.  Seems like she might have been trying to make the mayor look bad IDK.

The gentleman in question (the parks guy) was in the process of getting cited for reckless driving when the background check was run... the fact that he had a prior DUI was relevant and discovered in the normal course of police work. The chief ran the check, but she wasn't the cop who pulled the guy over for reckless driving... that said, I don't think it's uncommon to have officers other than the one making the st ...

The story said she was written up for running background checks without cause.  I'm not just making up things here.  I don't know where you're getting this reckless drink thing though.  Maybe a link would help.


Here's your sign.

http://www.charlestoncitypaper.com/charleston/lattas-mayor-fired-the- p olice-chief-but-town-council-is-fighting-back/Content?oid=4908655

It said the parks guy was arrested on suspicion of DUI and plead guilty to reckless driving in 2013 in another jurisdiction.  So her background check in 2014 was CLEARLY APPROPRIATE?  That's my sarcastic voice.


It is within the purview of the chief to do background checks so, as a matter of fact, the background check was, as you sarcastically admit, CLEARLY APPROPRIATE. Background checks are routinely done for any purpose since the information contained within is a matter of PUBLIC RECORD. There is no such thing as "without cause" in this case. It was a fabricated excuse for dismissal.
 
2014-04-27 05:36:20 PM  

billwill: It said the parks guy was arrested on suspicion of DUI and plead guilty to reckless driving in 2013 in another jurisdiction.  So her background check in 2014 was CLEARLY APPROPRIATE?  That's my sarcastic voice.


It is when the position being applied for requires a background check and one was not done.
 
2014-04-27 05:37:45 PM  
In the grand scheme, I wouldn't mind a pissed off lesbian with a gun ON MY SIDE.
 
2014-04-27 05:39:13 PM  

Jim_Callahan: Do you live somewhere where background checks bring up future crimes?


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2014-04-27 05:46:33 PM  
"The background check showed that the dude had issues with his background? HIGHLY SUSPICIOUS ELEVENTY"
 
2014-04-27 06:01:37 PM  
Good start. But, next time, before you elect a mayor, perhaps you should ask him or her about their feelings on equal treatment first, hmmm?

Assholes get into office because some assholes vote for him or her, not enough assholes vote against him or her, and way too many assholes can't be arsed to vote. Far too few folks are speaking for all of us, and we allow it because we think it doesn't affect us enough to matter (or that we can't effect enough change to matter.)

That's lazy thinking, and that's what's killing this country.
 
2014-04-27 06:08:39 PM  

FormlessOne: Good start. But, next time, before you elect a mayor, perhaps you should ask him or her about their feelings on equal treatment first, hmmm?

Assholes get into office because some assholes vote for him or her, not enough assholes vote against him or her, and way too many assholes can't be arsed to vote. Far too few folks are speaking for all of us, and we allow it because we think it doesn't affect us enough to matter (or that we can't effect enough change to matter.)

That's lazy thinking, and that's what's killing this country.


He ran unopposed.  No one else wanted the job.  There was no one else to vote for.  Their choices were, 1. vote for this asshole. 2. not vote at all.  Either way, the asshole wins the election.
 
2014-04-27 06:10:02 PM  
firefly212: ...She ran a background check - mayor hired his friend to be dept of parks & rec head, but his friend had a DUI, which would have prevented him from having that job... the mayor failed to run the background check, the chief ran it... friend got fired. Then the mayor... wrote her up 7 times in the same day, and fired her after she spent 20 years on the force with an unblemished record.

Sum Dum Gai: not actually fired for being a lesbian, but more for making the mayor look bad in public.

Wow, that's one classy mayor.
 
2014-04-27 06:12:11 PM  

firefly212: billwill: firefly212: billwill: Really doubt she was fired for being a lesbian but it might get her job back.  We're not getting the whole story here.  Politics at play here I would guess.  Like she did something to undermine the Mayor.

She ran a background check... he hired his friend to be department of parks and recreation head, but his friend had a DUI, which would have prevented him from having that job... the mayor failed to run the background check, the chief ran it... friend got fired. Then the mayor went on a homophobic tyrade about how they're not trustworthy and he'd rather leave kids with drunks than gays, wrote her up 7 times in the same day, and fired her after she spent 20 years on the force with an unblemished record. Maybe him hating lesbians was unrelated, and he was just firing her because she exposed his corruption, but it's not like either option is good for him.  No matter though, the town council already stripped him of all but ceremonial responsibilities, in their june meeting, it's on the table to more permanently strip whoever is mayor of those powers, that way the council would have to have a public vote on hiring/firing department chiefs including parks, fire, and police.

If that's true I feel like they should both lose there jobs.  Him for corruption and her for abusing her authority.  Wonder what she had against the mayors friend.

Her job is to enforce the law... the law says this guy can't be hired without a background check... she was well within the parameters of the law to run the background check, especially considering it was within the context of him being arrested by another officer for a separate offense. Pretty much every time you get pulled over, cops are gonna check for wants and warrants... if you're on probation for a DUI, that's gonna show... if you are driving a city vehicle when they pull you over and realize because of that DUI, you weren't supposed to be driving it at all... it isn't the cops fault. The guy lied on ...


this
 
2014-04-27 06:18:20 PM  

Next week's Tom Sawyer: Running background checks on people without permission or for non-LE purposes should be reason enough to fire a cop, lesbian or not.

The mayor sounds like a grade A douche, but if his reasons are true then I see no reason to make this woman your poster girl for gay discrimination.


She ran a background check on a public employee who was being put into a position of power and is a requirement of her job as the most senior police official in the city. That person just happened to have DUI, making them unable to perform the job as it bars them from operating public motor vehicles.

However, and this is the kicker, that person happened to be good friends with the mayor and was being given the job anyway who till the police chief pointed this out. The police chief than got seven reprimands all at once from the Mayor directly, bypassing normal council procedures and fired for doing something her position required her to perform.

This is the mayor angry that some lesbian dared to stop his crony appointment only due to the fact they were ineligible of performing the job and told the Mayor and City Council.
 
2014-04-27 06:23:22 PM  
Yes that bears repeating. If the mayor retaliated because she was doing her job however, he invites Federal investigations. If he fires her for being a lesbian, it at least legal in SC.
 
2014-04-27 06:30:06 PM  
As much as I applaud this effort, I've recently learned that city police chiefs are only figureheads and only the county sherriff has the real authority.
 
2014-04-27 06:31:16 PM  
Ran for mayor unopposed?  Heck, I'll go down there and run against him.  Vote Cpl.D for mayor!  I don't know squat about politics, urban management, but I'm not a jackass!
 
2014-04-27 06:34:57 PM  

Cpl.D: Ran for mayor unopposed?  Heck, I'll go down there and run against him.  Vote Cpl.D for mayor!  I don't know squat about politics, urban management, but I'm not a jackass!


Not being a jackass means you're unqualified to hold public office.
 
2014-04-27 06:41:13 PM  

Danger Avoid Death: Cpl.D: Ran for mayor unopposed?  Heck, I'll go down there and run against him.  Vote Cpl.D for mayor!  I don't know squat about politics, urban management, but I'm not a jackass!

Not being a jackass means you're unqualified to hold public office.


Cpl.D for Mayor!: Not the lesbian you wanted, but the lesbian you deserved!
 
2014-04-27 06:46:28 PM  

billwill: If that's true I feel like they should both lose there jobs. Him for corruption and her for abusing her authority. Wonder what she had against the mayors friend.


Didja ever think that maybe it was part of her JOB to run background checks on city employees?
This is not the private sector. Who better to figure out if a potential municipal employee is a criminal than a cop?
 
2014-04-27 06:52:03 PM  

TheOther: Danger Avoid Death: Cpl.D: Ran for mayor unopposed?  Heck, I'll go down there and run against him.  Vote Cpl.D for mayor!  I don't know squat about politics, urban management, but I'm not a jackass!

Not being a jackass means you're unqualified to hold public office.

Cpl.D for Mayor!: Not the lesbian you wanted, but the lesbian you deserved!


That'd be a tough slogan to go with.  Given I'm male and have a beard.
 
2014-04-27 07:18:50 PM  

Cpl.D: TheOther: Danger Avoid Death: Cpl.D: Ran for mayor unopposed?  Heck, I'll go down there and run against him.  Vote Cpl.D for mayor!  I don't know squat about politics, urban management, but I'm not a jackass!

Not being a jackass means you're unqualified to hold public office.

Cpl.D for Mayor!: Not the lesbian you wanted, but the lesbian you deserved!

That'd be a tough slogan to go with.  Given I'm male and have a beard.


Exactly!  It's time candidates stopped telling voters what that they are the smartest, bravest, fairest and most honest people on earth and start telling them that they've been acting like brain-damaged children instead of the responsible adults that they, the nation, and the world need them to be.  So...

Cpl.D for Mayor!: Not the hot lipstick lesbian you want, but the bearded male lesbian you deserve!
 
2014-04-27 07:39:31 PM  

TheOther: Cpl.D: TheOther: Danger Avoid Death: Cpl.D: Ran for mayor unopposed?  Heck, I'll go down there and run against him.  Vote Cpl.D for mayor!  I don't know squat about politics, urban management, but I'm not a jackass!

Not being a jackass means you're unqualified to hold public office.

Cpl.D for Mayor!: Not the lesbian you wanted, but the lesbian you deserved!

That'd be a tough slogan to go with.  Given I'm male and have a beard.

Exactly!  It's time candidates stopped telling voters what that they are the smartest, bravest, fairest and most honest people on earth and start telling them that they've been acting like brain-damaged children instead of the responsible adults that they, the nation, and the world need them to be.  So...

Cpl.D for Mayor!: Not the hot lipstick lesbian you want, but the bearded male lesbian you deserve!


A vote for Cpl.D. is a vote for gay marriage!

www.fishandcheese.com
 
2014-04-27 07:42:01 PM  
What can I say?  LOL!
 
2014-04-27 07:54:40 PM  
Angry butch lesbian's 20 year power trip ends when hero gets elected and finally puts the bull out of the china shop.
 
2014-04-27 08:37:55 PM  

BSABSVR: Duke_leto_Atredes: Ok we compromise; fire the ru muncher, recall the mayor. Promote a heterosexual white male to chief. Then elect a flamer as mayor. Then both people in the story have had their 15 and go away.

You sound elderly.


It can be a struggle sometimes to be both a misogynist and a homophobe, especially when the person who's not a lesbian is clearly in the wrong.
 
2014-04-27 08:48:55 PM  

limeyfellow: Yes that bears repeating. If the mayor retaliated because she was doing her job however, he invites Federal investigations. If he fires her for being a lesbian, it at least legal in SC.


That's the thing. The lesbian angle is small potatoes.
 
2014-04-27 08:55:37 PM  

KeeptheChief: limeyfellow: Yes that bears repeating. If the mayor retaliated because she was doing her job however, he invites Federal investigations. If he fires her for being a lesbian, it at least legal in SC.

That's the thing. The lesbian angle is small potatoesanother kettle of fish.


FTFY
 
2014-04-27 09:13:41 PM  
It's nice to be able at least ONCE, to be proud of my home state. Because Jeebus/Allah/YHWH/ and Buddha know just how much fail is in that state.  Stick to Charleston, Columbia, and parts of GSP, and you'll find relatively sane people, and sometimes even major acts of kindness. GSP, thought has had a massive influx of Northerners, so that typical southern charm is being lost.

Everybody else (and I've known PLENTY in my 38 years) are insanely baptist, paranoid conservative, and pretty much use the N-word liberally, in that gawd-awful drawl.

We've also got a few Hells Angels wannabes, some incredibly scary meth kingpins, and the usual proudly ignorant doofii from out in the sticks.


In short, stick to the main cities (Charleston especially, if you want to experience the "Old Southern Charm"), and you'll probably have an enjoyable experience.
 
2014-04-27 10:00:28 PM  

firefly212: billwill: Really doubt she was fired for being a lesbian but it might get her job back.  We're not getting the whole story here.  Politics at play here I would guess.  Like she did something to undermine the Mayor.

She ran a background check... he hired his friend to be department of parks and recreation head, but his friend had a DUI, which would have prevented him from having that job... the mayor failed to run the background check, the chief ran it... friend got fired. Then the mayor went on a homophobic tyrade about how they're not trustworthy and he'd rather leave kids with drunks than gays, wrote her up 7 times in the same day, and fired her after she spent 20 years on the force with an unblemished record. Maybe him hating lesbians was unrelated, and he was just firing her because she exposed his corruption, but it's not like either option is good for him.  No matter though, the town council already stripped him of all but ceremonial responsibilities, in their june meeting, it's on the table to more permanently strip whoever is mayor of those powers, that way the council would have to have a public vote on hiring/firing department chiefs including parks, fire, and police.


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2014-04-27 10:10:47 PM  

ciberido: BSABSVR: Duke_leto_Atredes: Ok we compromise; fire the ru muncher, recall the mayor. Promote a heterosexual white male to chief. Then elect a flamer as mayor. Then both people in the story have had their 15 and go away.

You sound elderly.

It can be a struggle sometimes to be both a misogynist and a homophobe, especially when the person who's not a lesbian is clearly in the wrong.


Misogynist, homophobe, cronyist and overall sleazeball (the mayor, not the Duke, although he's got issues). Sounds like the guy is a veritable suckhole of derp.
 
2014-04-27 10:18:52 PM  

wellreadneck: KeeptheChief: limeyfellow: Yes that bears repeating. If the mayor retaliated because she was doing her job however, he invites Federal investigations. If he fires her for being a lesbian, it at least legal in SC.

That's the thing. The lesbian angle is small potatoesanother kettle of fish.

FTFY


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2014-04-27 11:03:42 PM  

wellreadneck: KeeptheChief: limeyfellow: Yes that bears repeating. If the mayor retaliated because she was doing her job however, he invites Federal investigations. If he fires her for being a lesbian, it at least legal in SC.

That's the thing. The lesbian angle is small potatoesanother kettle of fish.

FTFY


Get it? Because women's crotches smell like fish, right?

Honestly, I have no idea where this myth comes from. I have possessed a vagina from birth and I can tell you it has never smelled of fish for my entire life. Granted, I have zero experience with other women's crotches, but still -- have a vagina, have no fish smell.

Is this like that South Park Game of Thrones soft weiner thing? Because there's been exactly one soft weiner on screen in four seasons, so this so-called "obsession" is just as mythical as fishy crotches.
 
2014-04-27 11:22:08 PM  

ciberido: BSABSVR: Duke_leto_Atredes: Ok we compromise; fire the ru muncher, recall the mayor. Promote a heterosexual white male to chief. Then elect a flamer as mayor. Then both people in the story have had their 15 and go away.

You sound elderly.

It can be a struggle sometimes to be both a misogynist and a homophobe, especially when the person who's not a lesbian is clearly in the wrong.


It's a hard balance to strike, to slips the herring bone right down the middle.

The chief started screaming anti gay discrimination when what happened is she messed with the good old boy network. As I said fire both.
 
2014-04-27 11:32:58 PM  

silvervial: wellreadneck: KeeptheChief: limeyfellow: Yes that bears repeating. If the mayor retaliated because she was doing her job however, he invites Federal investigations. If he fires her for being a lesbian, it at least legal in SC.

That's the thing. The lesbian angle is small potatoesanother kettle of fish.

FTFY

Get it? Because women's crotches smell like fish, right?

Honestly, I have no idea where this myth comes from. I have possessed a vagina from birth and I can tell you it has never smelled of fish for my entire life. Granted, I have zero experience with other women's crotches, but still -- have a vagina, have no fish smell.

Is this like that South Park Game of Thrones soft weiner thing? Because there's been exactly one soft weiner on screen in four seasons, so this so-called "obsession" is just as mythical as fishy crotches.


It's not uncommon, but it is abnormal. It's generally a sign of microbial infection
 
2014-04-27 11:38:08 PM  

rewind2846: billwill: If that's true I feel like they should both lose there jobs. Him for corruption and her for abusing her authority. Wonder what she had against the mayors friend.

Didja ever think that maybe it was part of her JOB to run background checks on city employees?
This is not the private sector. Who better to figure out if a potential municipal employee is a criminal than a cop?


Most police deptarments have apds or applicant processing divisions.  Their job is to root out those with background issues before things get to far along in the process.  This is NEVER done by the chief.  So for the chief to personally do something of this nature does make it seem like she and the mayor hadn't been seeing eye to eye for a while.
/in some organizations thats what you call insubordination and by the way theres the door
 
2014-04-28 12:52:09 AM  

Danger Avoid Death: TheOther: Cpl.D: TheOther: Danger Avoid Death: Cpl.D: Ran for mayor unopposed?  Heck, I'll go down there and run against him.  Vote Cpl.D for mayor!  I don't know squat about politics, urban management, but I'm not a jackass!

Not being a jackass means you're unqualified to hold public office.

Cpl.D for Mayor!: Not the lesbian you wanted, but the lesbian you deserved!

That'd be a tough slogan to go with.  Given I'm male and have a beard.

Exactly!  It's time candidates stopped telling voters what that they are the smartest, bravest, fairest and most honest people on earth and start telling them that they've been acting like brain-damaged children instead of the responsible adults that they, the nation, and the world need them to be.  So...

Cpl.D for Mayor!: Not the hot lipstick lesbian you want, but the bearded male lesbian you deserve!

A vote for Cpl.D. is a vote for gay marriage!

[www.fishandcheese.com image 392x551]


Photoshop contest?
 
2014-04-28 01:04:27 AM  

JDJoeE: rewind2846: billwill: If that's true I feel like they should both lose there jobs. Him for corruption and her for abusing her authority. Wonder what she had against the mayors friend.

Didja ever think that maybe it was part of her JOB to run background checks on city employees?
This is not the private sector. Who better to figure out if a potential municipal employee is a criminal than a cop?

Most police deptarments have apds or applicant processing divisions.  Their job is to root out those with background issues before things get to far along in the process.  This is NEVER done by the chief.  So for the chief to personally do something of this nature does make it seem like she and the mayor hadn't been seeing eye to eye for a while.
/in some organizations thats what you call insubordination and by the way theres the door


According to the article linked by SeriousBlack above, firing the chief reduced the full-timers on the police force by 10%. My guess is the department was probably not big enough to have a division specifically for that task.

Also, the police chief answers the phone and works the front desk. Sounds like they don't have too many people for much of anything.
 
2014-04-28 01:58:45 AM  

JDJoeE: Most police deptarments have apds or applicant processing divisions.  Their job is to root out those with background issues before things get to far along in the process.  This is NEVER done by the chief.


 Do you seriously think a rural town with four traffic lights and little more than 1000 residents has a department large enough to merit a separate division for handling applications? I lived in a town that size once, there was one chief, 3 cops, and one dispatcher - the chiefs wife.
 In a town that size, not only does the chief run background checks, they also check the mail and sweep up and take out the garbage before they go home for the night.
 
2014-04-28 03:28:46 AM  

Duke_leto_Atredes: The chief started screaming anti gay discrimination when what happened is she messed with the good old boy network. As I said fire both.


Honestly I can't decide if "being lesbian" or if "messing with the good ole boy network" is the worse reason for losing one's job. You sure do suck though, I know that.
 
2014-04-28 03:31:15 AM  

silvervial: wellreadneck: KeeptheChief: limeyfellow: Yes that bears repeating. If the mayor retaliated because she was doing her job however, he invites Federal investigations. If he fires her for being a lesbian, it at least legal in SC.

That's the thing. The lesbian angle is small potatoesanother kettle of fish.

FTFY

Get it? Because women's crotches smell like fish, right?

Honestly, I have no idea where this myth comes from. I have possessed a vagina from birth and I can tell you it has never smelled of fish for my entire life. Granted, I have zero experience with other women's crotches, but still -- have a vagina, have no fish smell.

Is this like that South Park Game of Thrones soft weiner thing? Because there's been exactly one soft weiner on screen in four seasons, so this so-called "obsession" is just as mythical as fishy crotches.


I know the plural of anecdote isn't data, but I do have an anecdote that pertains to this. When I played football in eighth grade, I very vividly remember walking past the cheerleaders (also eighth-graders) on the sideline during a game, and being nearly knocked to my knees by a very strong fish smell. It was so bad the guy walking next to me started gagging, and did actually lose his lunch from it. Now, admittedly, I didn't run around lifting skirts to get a good close whiff to be certain the smell was emanating from their crotches, nor can I say that it was coming from all of them, rather than just one or two individuals, but I can difinitivly say that there was a strong, nasty fish smell in the air, only noticeable when you were down-wind of the cheerleading squad. I should note that I haven't encountered a similar situation at any time since, despite much, er, closer encounters.
 
2014-04-28 03:34:00 AM  

JDJoeE: rewind2846: billwill: If that's true I feel like they should both lose there jobs. Him for corruption and her for abusing her authority. Wonder what she had against the mayors friend.

Didja ever think that maybe it was part of her JOB to run background checks on city employees?
This is not the private sector. Who better to figure out if a potential municipal employee is a criminal than a cop?

Most police deptarments have apds or applicant processing divisions.  Their job is to root out those with background issues before things get to far along in the process.  This is NEVER done by the chief.  So for the chief to personally do something of this nature does make it seem like she and the mayor hadn't been seeing eye to eye for a while.
/in some organizations thats what you call insubordination and by the way theres the door


Bullshiat.  Been in law enforcement for years, and have trained at numerous agencies all over the country, from large state and metropolitan agencies, to agencies with 1 to 2 officers.  Large, thousand officer agencies might have a specific hiring division, or their own human resources division.  Agencies with 1-5 officers don't, and the Chief sometimes works patrol alongside regular patrol people.  Hell, a small town just north of where I work has two officers, a Chief and a Deputy.  I know for a fact that the Chief does background checks for all their new town employees.

You clearly have no idea what small town policing is like.  It CAN be corrupt, but there are also a shiat town of things that small town police chiefs do that large city police chief's don't have to do.
 
2014-04-28 03:36:27 AM  

Fafai: Duke_leto_Atredes: The chief started screaming anti gay discrimination when what happened is she messed with the good old boy network. As I said fire both.

Honestly I can't decide if "being lesbian" or if "messing with the good ole boy network" is the worse reason for losing one's job. You sure do suck though, I know that.


"Messing around with the good ole lesbian network" would probably suck too.
 
2014-04-28 03:39:33 AM  
I'll also point out that if she was truly running background checks without cause, that's a very serious federal crime.  Officers have been fired/jailed for misusing NCIC to spy on girls, running license plates on presidential vehicles, looking up celebrities, etc.

The NCIC computers are monitored 24/7, and certain people of status have alerts attached to their information.  For instance, if you run a license plate of a vehicle that is assigned to the presidential detail, or secret service's protection details, you can expect a very quick phone call from the FBI to figure out why you're doing what you're doing.  Certain professional athletes, celebrities, etc who are more prominent or are the subject of death threats will also set off alerts.  In my career I've had it happen to me two times, both very high profile athletes, both were relatively minor traffic violation stops, and a quick chat with the FBI folks about why I'd stopped them, and giving them a CAD number to go along with the stop and you're done.

If the Mayor truly believed that she was misusing NCIC to run background checks, by now the FBI would be involved.  They're not.
 
2014-04-28 04:29:07 AM  

Danger Avoid Death: Fafai: Duke_leto_Atredes: The chief started screaming anti gay discrimination when what happened is she messed with the good old boy network. As I said fire both.

Honestly I can't decide if "being lesbian" or if "messing with the good ole boy network" is the worse reason for losing one's job. You sure do suck though, I know that.

"Messing around with the good ole lesbian network" would probably suck too.


It's called the gay mafia out here in California, primary target young children. Just ask all the Cory's the living and the dead.
 
2014-04-28 06:35:05 AM  
If I lived there, I would vote for her as mayor.
 
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