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(NPR)   A look inside one of the most terrifying, vile places known to NPR: An NRA convention   (npr.org) divider line 265
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2014-04-28 03:19:16 AM

Brainsick: redmid17: lewismarktwo: redmid17: pedrop357: John Buck 41: pedrop357: DeArmondVI: John Buck 41: DeArmondVI: csb: I manage at a used bookstore that, for many years, had a no guns allowed sign posted up. However, after the gun crowd became even more belligerant than usual after that guy mowed down an entire 1st grade classroom we took the damn thing down.

Cut to: last week some yahoo showed up doing the whole open carry thing along with a giant knife strapped to his leg.

After multiple complaints about said yahoo, the sign went back up again.

I guess I just don't understand the need/desire to be able to kill someone while browsing some used books.

So, you work in a place with a 'No guns allowed' signs on premises. I'm sure that must be VERY comforting.

It's tough at times, I must concede. Bad guys with guns come in at least twice a day and pilfer our registers and assualt our customers.

Sounds like the sign isn't working.

They never do.I know the phrase I bolded was sarcastic. but think it through, antis. Given 2 choices, where is a bad guy gonna go?

Going further, if such a sign worked, why stop there?  Why spend a bunch of money on exit scanners, surveillance, etc. when simply putting up "No Shoplifting" signs would work just as well for 1/100th the price?

Because the largest source of shoplifting is employees and it behooves the the employer to have access to those videos in case they need to prove cause for termination, though stealing is hardly the only reason to do so.

Popular fiction.  Most shoplifting is not done by employees. It's done by walk in customers.  Employees that DO shoplift do it a lot tho so they account for a large percentage if you carve it up by individual.

/hello, I'd like to return this very small and very expensive item for store credit because I lost my receipt.

http://www.nrf.com/modules.php?name=News&op=viewlive&sp_id=1136

"According to the preliminary survey findings, the majority of retail shrinkage last year was due to emp ...


Their words, not mine, but a plurality is called a relative majority for a reason.
 
2014-04-28 04:03:00 AM

redmid17: Their words, not mine


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redmid17: Because the largest source of shoplifting is employees


Riiiiight....'largest source' and 'majority' are two different things.
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That article doesn't prove what you think it does, anyway:

NRF's recently released Organized Retail Crime survey found that 95 percent of retailers have been a victim of organized retail crime over the last 12 months.

The National Retail Security Survey is an annual survey of loss prevention executives that benchmarks retail shrinkage and operational information about how retailers are combating losses


It's not even a 1 to 1 survey, it's a survey of the executives of loss prevention companies, who 'definitely' don't have a motive to claim losses are going up

/I will concede the 'majority' of theft in that case is a correct phrasing
//though your single sentence quote didn't give that background
 
2014-04-28 04:15:15 AM

Brainsick: redmid17: Their words, not mine

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redmid17: Because the largest source of shoplifting is employees

Riiiiight....'largest source' and 'majority' are two different things.
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That article doesn't prove what you think it does, anyway:

NRF's recently released Organized Retail Crime survey found that 95 percent of retailers have been a victim of organized retail crime over the last 12 months.

The National Retail Security Survey is an annual survey of loss prevention executives that benchmarks retail shrinkage and operational information about how retailers are combating losses

It's not even a 1 to 1 survey, it's a survey of the executives of loss prevention companies, who 'definitely' don't have a motive to claim losses are going up

/I will concede the 'majority' of theft in that case is a correct phrasing
//though your single sentence quote didn't give that background


Brainsick: redmid17: Their words, not mine

-Scroll up-

redmid17: Because the largest source of shoplifting is employees

Riiiiight....'largest source' and 'majority' are two different things.
[1.bp.blogspot.com image 224x352]
That article doesn't prove what you think it does, anyway:

NRF's recently released Organized Retail Crime survey found that 95 percent of retailers have been a victim of organized retail crime over the last 12 months.

The National Retail Security Survey is an annual survey of loss prevention executives that benchmarks retail shrinkage and operational information about how retailers are combating losses

It's not even a 1 to 1 survey, it's a survey of the executives of loss prevention companies, who 'definitely' don't have a motive to claim losses are going up

/I will concede the 'majority' of theft in that case is a correct phrasing
//though your single sentence quote didn't give that background


Feel free to get a better source or gtfo and stfu

/my words, not theirs
 
2014-04-28 04:58:02 AM

redmid17: Feel free to get a better source or gtfo and stfu

/my words, not theirs



thefabweb.com


/I made my point and we've gone faaaaaarrrrr off topic already with this exchange
 
2014-04-28 08:35:22 AM
NPR.   Fails at learning how to photoshop out the leetle blue ties at the trigger guard preventing the trigger from depressing. from CNN, Fox, and all other networks.   They're behind the times.

Also, I'm not sure that is an NRA meeting. They just say it is.  That's also the same exact sign-in table setup at Gun Show product fairs.  And the lady did not put the ties on. That was done outside the building, as per the setup at gun shows.  The ammo was also turned in for a receipt to be redeemed upon exiting for the day.

Come on, if you want it to be an NRA convention.  Shop it to make sure the gun looks fully functional.
 
2014-04-28 08:36:56 AM

Brainsick: redmid17: Feel free to get a better source or gtfo and stfu

/my words, not theirs


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/I made my point and we've gone faaaaaarrrrr off topic already with this exchange


Congratulations on neither getting your source nor gtfo.
 
2014-04-28 09:46:56 AM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: The NRA is the lobbying arm for the firearms manufacturing industry - if you want the pure, uncut derp you gotta go to one of those Gun Shows at the rural county fairgrounds.


Actually, the National Shooting Sports Foundation is the organization that represents (lobbies for) the firearms industry.

The NRA represents millions of gun owners, and lobbies through their Institute for Legislative Action.

The NRA is the epitome of a grass roots organization, where their power comes from millions of members from all walks of life, all giving relatively small amounts of money through membership fees or additional donations.

Very unlike, say, the Bloomberg organizations who's members are corrupt politicians, greedy at the feeding trough of an individual who promises to bankroll their elections.
 
2014-04-28 10:09:03 AM

K3rmy: I want to go to an NRA convention to ask what is the appropriate firearm for someone who is hung like a horse?  Do other people have to turn in their firearms to compensate for my generous endowment?  I mean, it is huge enough that the first four rows of the auditorium where they give speeches would have to leave unarmed and give up there jacked up trucks to boot.


Why is that when liberals hear or read the word gun all they can think of is penises?
 
2014-04-28 11:04:25 AM

pdee: K3rmy: I want to go to an NRA convention to ask what is the appropriate firearm for someone who is hung like a horse?  Do other people have to turn in their firearms to compensate for my generous endowment?  I mean, it is huge enough that the first four rows of the auditorium where they give speeches would have to leave unarmed and give up there jacked up trucks to boot.

Why is that when liberals hear or read the word gun all they can think of is penises?


Sexual deprivation?
 
2014-04-28 01:21:52 PM

Brainsick: The sign 'works' because it allows the business owner to enforce a posted rule, should the need arise. Shoplifting is already a crime, open carry is not, but a business owner is allowed to establish rules for their business, provided they are not discriminatory against a protected class. If there was no sign, someone carrying open in the store would rightfully be able to refuse to leave, or sue the store owner for infringing on their constitutional rights, which could definitely lead to bigger problems for everyone involved.


/you knew that, didn't you?
//I feel soiled...


You like being wrong apparently.  Absent any signage, businesses can and do eject customers all the time for behavior that would be constitutionally protected if it were the government trying to prohibiting it.

Businesses can kick people out for protesting, not allowing themselves to be searched, etc.
 
2014-04-28 04:37:25 PM

Lorelle: Fark It: I'm sorry, but what's so scary about this article?  None of the quotes were political, and none of the people they talked to were foaming-at-the-mouth lunatics.

Uh-huh.

Todd Homan, a gun dealer from St. Henry, Ohio, has brought each of his eight children to an NRA meeting at least once. His son, Charlton, is making a return visit this year.

Back in 2001, when he was 5 weeks old, Charlton was held up on stage at the NRA meeting by his namesake, the actor and NRA President Charlton Heston, who died in 2008.

His parents carry around a small photo album, showing off pictures of that moment. Charlton Homan admits he's "kind of" sick of hearing the story.

Riiight.

"It's been something we've been doing for a fairly long time," says Jimmy Trout, a 16-year-old from Carlisle, Ohio, who's such a fan of the Browning Buck Mark line of weapons that he has its logo shaved into the back of his head.


Ha, by that definition of lunatic you may want to avoid concerts and sporting events. Those places are so scary you'd be a quivering puddle in a corner somewhere.
 
2014-04-28 04:58:31 PM

Next week's Tom Sawyer: So if pilots were paid more, it would be cheaper to make flying more than a hobby? Sorry, but you really seem to be stretching your reasoning to deflect the effect of regulation on GA.

Even if we did accept your hypothesis that high training costs for commercial aviators was the cause of a decline in GA, one could easily point to the government regulation requiring first officers to have ATP licenses as a clear contributor to those costs.



So the ATP regulations that only recently took effect have been responsible for the decline in general aviation for many years?

And yes, if you paid pilots more it would make more people interested in aviation. The decline in general aviation has been traced back to the rise in fuel costs and the lowering of pilot pay. I am stating facts while people like you are replying with emotion and uneducated claims.
 
2014-04-28 04:59:34 PM

pdee: K3rmy: I want to go to an NRA convention to ask what is the appropriate firearm for someone who is hung like a horse?  Do other people have to turn in their firearms to compensate for my generous endowment?  I mean, it is huge enough that the first four rows of the auditorium where they give speeches would have to leave unarmed and give up there jacked up trucks to boot.

Why is that when liberals hear or read the word gun all they can think of is penises?


Scientific studies that show you are desperately overcompensating.
 
2014-04-28 08:20:51 PM

Bob Robert: pdee: K3rmy: I want to go to an NRA convention to ask what is the appropriate firearm for someone who is hung like a horse?  Do other people have to turn in their firearms to compensate for my generous endowment?  I mean, it is huge enough that the first four rows of the auditorium where they give speeches would have to leave unarmed and give up there jacked up trucks to boot.

Why is that when liberals hear or read the word gun all they can think of is penises?

Scientific studies that show you are desperately overcompensating.


1/10
 
2014-04-29 02:26:48 AM

redmid17: Brainsick: redmid17: Feel free to get a better source or gtfo and stfu

/my words, not theirs


[thefabweb.com image 850x531]


/I made my point and we've gone faaaaaarrrrr off topic already with this exchange

Congratulations on neither getting your source nor gtfo...


...he said, four hours after I left the thread
 
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