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2014-04-27 05:16:01 PM

Enemabag Jones: The ideal thread for my rant:
Remember prohibition?  The Volstead Act was the law that provided the specifics for prohibition.  It was not just vodka, and other hard booze.  It included bottled wine beer.  Compromise might have allowed the Volstead Act to continue to exist if they will willing to compromise with 3% beer and wine, but the prohibitionists did not want to allow the sale of any wine or beer.  And they were effective with making sure what representatives survived and didn't.

Then people got sick of the stupidity, and all alcohol was legal again.

What is my point, pretty soon someone smart enough is going to take a AR, do the math, kill 55 primary schoolchildren, and that will be all she wrote.  The NRA will no longer be able to defend any reasonable gun rights and since they are the only game in town, many; many gun rights will be lost.

If the NRA is the only game in town continuing to act like they are, this will end badly for the rights of gun owners that are not profiting from the sale of more and more guns.

\Not that I am against booze, just works as an example.


Didn't that already pretty much happen at Sandy Hook, just in not quite as large a number? I'm not seeing a big change in the landscape other than in the liberal controlly states like Connecticut and New York.  And even then, folks are balking against the restrictive registration laws and giving an effective non-compliance F*** Y** to The Establishment.  On other hand, in the last number of years, background checks for firearm purchases have skyrocketed.
 
2014-04-27 05:17:38 PM

ZeroPly: /no, not a conservative


lol "libertarians" lol

/ We're not laughing with you
 
2014-04-27 05:19:41 PM

ZeroPly: while not lifting a finger against handguns


What not lifting a finger looks like

http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/06/28/us.scotus.handgun.ban/index.html
 
2014-04-27 05:20:39 PM

Bob Robert: Maul555: It sets off my bullshiat meter every damned time.

Without citations to prove your point, nobody is going to take your bullshiat meters word for it mostly because you are a nobody.


oooooh... and your a nobody too... who the fark cares?

/I cite NPR radio... just turn it on
 
2014-04-27 05:22:06 PM

maldinero: Firearm regulation is no more equivalent to a banning gun ownership, than the existence of F.A.R.s equate to banning aircraft ownership. Own whatever you want and can afford, but be prepared to be held accountable and qualified to use, store and transport what you own. I could afford to obtain a surplus L-39, but that doesn't mean I'm entitled to fly it before meeting a set of rules deemed legal by society at large. If only we could get past the bifurcated ideals of all-or-nothing campers, things could actually get better. Excuse me now while I finish my beer and take my home-built hydrogen zeppelin for a spin over the nearest outdoor festival.


The AOPA will vehemently opposes new aviation regulations if they pose additional costs to pilots or owners. Like the NRA, they know the death of their sport will come gradually with government making flying ever more difficult and expensive.
 
2014-04-27 05:23:10 PM

Maul555: Bob Robert: Maul555: It sets off my bullshiat meter every damned time.

Without citations to prove your point, nobody is going to take your bullshiat meters word for it mostly because you are a nobody.

oooooh... and your a nobody too... who the fark cares?

/I cite NPR radio... just turn it on



So your response is to study it out. Glad we figured that one out quick.
 
2014-04-27 05:23:46 PM
dok9874
Didn't that already pretty much happen at Sandy Hook, just in not quite as large a number? I'm not seeing a big change in the landscape other than in the liberal controlly states like Connecticut and New York. And even then, folks are balking against the restrictive registration laws and giving an effective non-compliance F*** Y** to The Establishment. On other hand, in the last number of years, background checks for firearm purchases have skyrocketed.


I don't pretend to know what the magic number of gradeschoolers getting murdered by unskilled psychopaths able to do math will make people change their mind about the NRA.

I don't know what folks are doing to balk against restrictive registration laws or how they are giving non-compliance f**k y**s to what establishment. It is possible that you have different sources then I.
 
2014-04-27 05:25:10 PM

Next week's Tom Sawyer: The AOPA will vehemently opposes new aviation regulations if they pose additional costs to pilots or owners. Like the NRA, they know the death of their sport will come gradually with government making flying ever more difficult and expensive.


Government is making flying expensive with too many regulations? You are trying hard for best derp in this thread of derps. Here I thought it was regional airlines paying poverty wages so executives and wall st can see all the gains. Or the high cost of fuel. But nah, both sides are bad libertarians have decided once again that government is ruining another sector of the economy all by itself.
 
2014-04-27 05:27:10 PM

Bob Robert: Maul555: Bob Robert: Maul555: It sets off my bullshiat meter every damned time.

Without citations to prove your point, nobody is going to take your bullshiat meters word for it mostly because you are a nobody.

oooooh... and your a nobody too... who the fark cares?

/I cite NPR radio... just turn it on


So your response is to study it out. Glad we figured that one out quick.


I am not going to get caught up in your circle of trolling...  Right now you are trying to reel me in.  Glad I figured that one out quick.
 
2014-04-27 05:29:20 PM

Maul555: Bob Robert: Maul555: Bob Robert: Maul555: It sets off my bullshiat meter every damned time.

Without citations to prove your point, nobody is going to take your bullshiat meters word for it mostly because you are a nobody.

oooooh... and your a nobody too... who the fark cares?

/I cite NPR radio... just turn it on


So your response is to study it out. Glad we figured that one out quick.

I am not going to get caught up in your circle of trolling...  Right now you are trying to reel me in.  Glad I figured that one out quick.


So you make a claim about the reporting of NPR, when I ask you for examples, all you can do is tell me to study it out. And now you are labeling me as the troll. How drunk are you right now?
 
2014-04-27 05:30:23 PM

Nutsac_Jim: Quick question.

I have a Porsche 911 Cabriolet as well as a firearm.

Both of these are considered 'anti dick size' .

Am a double small penis , or does the Porsche make me small dick and being the gun owner
counteract it and make it big dick again, like  multiplying a negative 1 twice?


Only if you also own a Miata.
 
2014-04-27 05:34:29 PM

Bob Robert: Next week's Tom Sawyer: The AOPA will vehemently opposes new aviation regulations if they pose additional costs to pilots or owners. Like the NRA, they know the death of their sport will come gradually with government making flying ever more difficult and expensive.

Government is making flying expensive with too many regulations? You are trying hard for best derp in this thread of derps. Here I thought it was regional airlines paying poverty wages so executives and wall st can see all the gains. Or the high cost of fuel. But nah, both sides are bad libertarians have decided once again that government is ruining another sector of the economy all by itself.


LOL. An accusation of derp without even knowing what I was talking about. Here's a clue: the AOPA has nothing to do with regional airlines. They are an advocate for general aviation. And yes, regulation presents a significant burden to general aviation.
 
2014-04-27 05:38:28 PM

Next week's Tom Sawyer: LOL. An accusation of derp without even knowing what I was talking about. Here's a clue: the AOPA has nothing to do with regional airlines. They are an advocate for general aviation. And yes, regulation presents a significant burden to general aviation.


So making the profession of pilot completely unrealistic unless you can finance the 50k or more required for all the proper ratings has nothing to do with the number of people who want to get their license and ratings? I know exactly what you're talking about, you blame "over regulation" but have no clue what you are talking about. Thanks for making this debate quick and easy though. Usually the uneducated will run in circles and throw out more insults before just repeating their talking point phrase like it means something without facts.
 
2014-04-27 05:42:01 PM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: The NRA is the lobbying arm for the firearms manufacturing industry...



The NRA's tax records are public, you can Google them. Only about 1.3% of their income is from firearm-related companies. Membership dues are by far their largest source of income.

Perhaps you are thinking of the National Shooting Sports Foundation, which actually is an industry trade group.
 
2014-04-27 05:42:07 PM

thisisarepeat: Bob Robert: jshine: NewportBarGuy: If you are a gun-owner with an IQ over 65... Why are you a member of the NRA?

Because the ACLU will fight for any and all of the rest of the Bill of Rights, but they choose to ignore the 2nd Amendment?  Therefore, the NRA is required in order to fill in the gap and provide a well-rounded defense of all of our individual rights.

They don't ignore it. They understand the proper definition and intent. They are what you call educated and with no skin in the game like all the gun supporters who feel they are constantly under threat.

SCOTUS has defined the second amendment.  Nobody has to speculate about it any longer.


Like rust, anti-gunners never sleep.

inch by inch, step by step, slowly
 
2014-04-27 05:42:45 PM

Bob Robert: Maul555: It sets off my bullshiat meter every damned time.

Without citations to prove your point, nobody is going to take your bullshiat meters word for it mostly because you are a nobody.


To be fair, you need to disable your bullshiat meter on Fark. Just like AdBlock Plus.
 
2014-04-27 05:43:31 PM

Man On Pink Corner: Nutsac_Jim: Quick question.

I have a Porsche 911 Cabriolet as well as a firearm.

Both of these are considered 'anti dick size' .

Am a double small penis , or does the Porsche make me small dick and being the gun owner
counteract it and make it big dick again, like  multiplying a negative 1 twice?

Only if you also own a Miata.


Fiero?
Just askin'.
 
2014-04-27 05:44:26 PM

Bob Robert: Next week's Tom Sawyer: LOL. An accusation of derp without even knowing what I was talking about. Here's a clue: the AOPA has nothing to do with regional airlines. They are an advocate for general aviation. And yes, regulation presents a significant burden to general aviation.

So making the profession of pilot completely unrealistic unless you can finance the 50k or more required for all the proper ratings has nothing to do with the number of people who want to get their license and ratings? I know exactly what you're talking about, you blame "over regulation" but have no clue what you are talking about. Thanks for making this debate quick and easy though. Usually the uneducated will run in circles and throw out more insults before just repeating their talking point phrase like it means something without facts.


For the second time, he is talking about general aviation, not what you want him to be talking about. The chutzpah of you hurling insults when you can't even stay on topic is mind-blowing.
 
2014-04-27 05:45:47 PM

CruiserTwelve: Enemabag Jones:

What the heck is "vodka"?


He meant vodak. He must be new here
 
2014-04-27 05:46:10 PM

snocone: thisisarepeat: Bob Robert: jshine: NewportBarGuy: If you are a gun-owner with an IQ over 65... Why are you a member of the NRA?

Because the ACLU will fight for any and all of the rest of the Bill of Rights, but they choose to ignore the 2nd Amendment?  Therefore, the NRA is required in order to fill in the gap and provide a well-rounded defense of all of our individual rights.

They don't ignore it. They understand the proper definition and intent. They are what you call educated and with no skin in the game like all the gun supporters who feel they are constantly under threat.

SCOTUS has defined the second amendment.  Nobody has to speculate about it any longer.

Like rust, anti-gunners never sleep.

inch by inch, step by step, slowly



Another coward who lives in fear every waking money of their life.
 
2014-04-27 05:47:17 PM

Adolf Oliver Nipples: Bob Robert: Next week's Tom Sawyer: LOL. An accusation of derp without even knowing what I was talking about. Here's a clue: the AOPA has nothing to do with regional airlines. They are an advocate for general aviation. And yes, regulation presents a significant burden to general aviation.

So making the profession of pilot completely unrealistic unless you can finance the 50k or more required for all the proper ratings has nothing to do with the number of people who want to get their license and ratings? I know exactly what you're talking about, you blame "over regulation" but have no clue what you are talking about. Thanks for making this debate quick and easy though. Usually the uneducated will run in circles and throw out more insults before just repeating their talking point phrase like it means something without facts.

For the second time, he is talking about general aviation, not what you want him to be talking about. The chutzpah of you hurling insults when you can't even stay on topic is mind-blowing.



Did you not even read the post you quoted?

I will quote it again

So making the profession of pilot completely unrealistic unless you can finance the 50k or more required for all the proper ratings has nothing to do with the number of people who want to get their license and ratings?

The fact that you can't even see why it is completely on topic but felt the need to jump in again with more ignorance after you couldn't successfully debate any of your other points is mind blowing.
 
2014-04-27 05:50:14 PM

Bob Robert: Adolf Oliver Nipples: Bob Robert: Next week's Tom Sawyer: LOL. An accusation of derp without even knowing what I was talking about. Here's a clue: the AOPA has nothing to do with regional airlines. They are an advocate for general aviation. And yes, regulation presents a significant burden to general aviation.

So making the profession of pilot completely unrealistic unless you can finance the 50k or more required for all the proper ratings has nothing to do with the number of people who want to get their license and ratings? I know exactly what you're talking about, you blame "over regulation" but have no clue what you are talking about. Thanks for making this debate quick and easy though. Usually the uneducated will run in circles and throw out more insults before just repeating their talking point phrase like it means something without facts.

For the second time, he is talking about general aviation, not what you want him to be talking about. The chutzpah of you hurling insults when you can't even stay on topic is mind-blowing.


Did you not even read the post you quoted?

I will quote it again

So making the profession of pilot completely unrealistic unless you can finance the 50k or more required for all the proper ratings has nothing to do with the number of people who want to get their license and ratings?

The fact that you can't even see why it is completely on topic but felt the need to jump in again with more ignorance after you couldn't successfully debate any of your other points is mind blowing.


General aviation is for people in Cessnas and Pipers, not airline pilots. It does NOT cost $50,000 to get a private pilot's license. The AOPA does not represent airline pilots.
 
2014-04-27 05:50:35 PM

Brainsick: Gone In 26 Minutes: You make Pocket Ninja's dumb shiat look like amateur hour.

2 posts in 2 threads in 2 days dissing PN...I guess he's been hitting a nerve amongst Fark IndependentsTM


What does that even mean anymore? Anyway, it has nothing to do with his politics - it has everything to do with him trying way too hard to be clever in a crowd that's easily impressed by someone who can make a long setup for an extremely unfunny joke. He's right up there with meow in the 'trying way too hard to be funny unsuccessfully' category.
 
2014-04-27 05:53:04 PM

Bob Robert: Next week's Tom Sawyer: LOL. An accusation of derp without even knowing what I was talking about. Here's a clue: the AOPA has nothing to do with regional airlines. They are an advocate for general aviation. And yes, regulation presents a significant burden to general aviation.

So making the profession of pilot completely unrealistic unless you can finance the 50k or more required for all the proper ratings has nothing to do with the number of people who want to get their license and ratings? I know exactly what you're talking about, you blame "over regulation" but have no clue what you are talking about. Thanks for making this debate quick and easy though. Usually the uneducated will run in circles and throw out more insults before just repeating their talking point phrase like it means something without facts.


You are the one throwing out insults. Seems weird for you to thank someone for not doing something you're already doing plenty of.

If you want to argue about the extent government regulation is hurting general aviation, then find someone else. Its irrelevant to my point. Just go look at where the AOPA is focusing its lobbying and you will see what concerns them the most.
 
2014-04-27 05:54:22 PM

Adolf Oliver Nipples: General aviation is for people in Cessnas and Pipers, not airline pilots. It does NOT cost $50,000 to get a private pilot's license. The AOPA does not represent airline pilots.



Most people who enjoy general aviation are working to become pilots, because the cost of training is so high. And the cost of just a PPL is very high, due to fuel costs. That's around 15-20k. Then 10-15k for multi engine if you want it. And 10k for instrument ratings. The costs add up. But thank you for letting me know you don't know anything about what you are talking about. Goodbye to you too.
 
2014-04-27 05:55:51 PM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: The NRA is the lobbying arm for the firearms manufacturing industry - if you want the pure, uncut derp you gotta go to one of those Gun Shows at the rural county fairgrounds.


Let's see.  Flagrant zero credibility statement about the NRA with a dash of anti-capitalistic sentiment.  Right out of Bloomberg's 'Everytown' training manual.  Tell Sharron Watt's I said hi.
 
2014-04-27 05:56:15 PM

Next week's Tom Sawyer: Bob Robert: Next week's Tom Sawyer: LOL. An accusation of derp without even knowing what I was talking about. Here's a clue: the AOPA has nothing to do with regional airlines. They are an advocate for general aviation. And yes, regulation presents a significant burden to general aviation.

So making the profession of pilot completely unrealistic unless you can finance the 50k or more required for all the proper ratings has nothing to do with the number of people who want to get their license and ratings? I know exactly what you're talking about, you blame "over regulation" but have no clue what you are talking about. Thanks for making this debate quick and easy though. Usually the uneducated will run in circles and throw out more insults before just repeating their talking point phrase like it means something without facts.

You are the one throwing out insults. Seems weird for you to thank someone for not doing something you're already doing plenty of.

If you want to argue about the extent government regulation is hurting general aviation, then find someone else. Its irrelevant to my point. Just go look at where the AOPA is focusing its lobbying and you will see what concerns them the most.



I'm not arguing, I'm lecturing you on why you claim of government regulation hurting the aviation industry is laughable and not backed up by any facts. You are falling for the same THEYRE TAKIN YER GUNS scare tactics that gets so many with the dog whistle conservatives and libertarians. The problem with general aviation is the cost of making it anything other than a hobby is out of reach of most of America, and that is down to the low pay of pilots.
 
2014-04-27 05:57:27 PM

Bob Robert: Adolf Oliver Nipples: General aviation is for people in Cessnas and Pipers, not airline pilots. It does NOT cost $50,000 to get a private pilot's license. The AOPA does not represent airline pilots.


Most people who enjoy general aviation are working to become pilots, because the cost of training is so high. And the cost of just a PPL is very high, due to fuel costs. That's around 15-20k. Then 10-15k for multi engine if you want it. And 10k for instrument ratings. The costs add up. But thank you for letting me know you don't know anything about what you are talking about. Goodbye to you too.


No, that is not correct. The vast majority of airline pilots come from the military. general aviation pilots get their licenses because they want to fly for fun.

You're simply not correct, and you haven't been from the start, yet you persist on calling us stupid. Why you are doubling down on this I'll never know.
 
2014-04-27 05:59:47 PM

Adolf Oliver Nipples: The vast majority of airline pilots come from the military.


This has been wrong for over 20 years, actually since the Vietnam war. Your knowledge is none, stop debating.
 
2014-04-27 06:02:49 PM

Enemabag Jones: Monty845
You want a real compromise? How about this: National Conceal Carry Reciprocity in exchange for a Universal Background check system where all records are destroyed 2 years after the transaction, and not accessible to the government at all without a search warrant?

I don't think NYC would allow that to happen. Although I am curious what would happen if the right to conceal carry was treated more like a drivers license where skill would have to be proven. And then states would start getting into what types of criminal records would prevent concealed carry licenses.

Interesting thought.


It already is, at least in my state (I plead ignorance of the requirements of the other 49, but I imagine they have to be similar).  Before you can apply for a CHL you have to take a class.  And in said class you have to show a proficiency at using your gun.  If you don't score a certain mark, then you're not eligible for the CHL.
 
2014-04-27 06:06:33 PM

Bob Robert: Monty845: Agreeing to universal background checks (which would start accumulating the paperwork for registration) wont stop the calls for magazine bans, or bans on modern sporting rifles. At best it might delay the push on them for another year or two, but it wont stop it.

Your logic here is you can't compromise because once you do, some people might still want more strict regulations. I do not believe setting a speed limit is the right thing to do, because no matter what speed you set it at, someone will always want it lower or higher. You are another wonderful product of the American education system.


Since we still have affirmative action, should we compromise and allow "literacy tests" at poles?  No we should not compromise, and you'r a dick for even bringing that up.
 
2014-04-27 06:07:30 PM
you're

FTFM
 
2014-04-27 06:08:00 PM

thisisarepeat: Since we still have affirmative action, should we compromise and allow "literacy tests" at poles? No we should not compromise, and you'r a dick for even bringing that up.


Illogical appeals to emotion. Gun restrictions are not "pole" (LOL) taxes. But I can see your education level quite clearly.
 
2014-04-27 06:09:56 PM
static.ddmcdn.com
 
2014-04-27 06:10:23 PM
yep you're right "poll" I have no education what so ever.
 
2014-04-27 06:11:28 PM

Bob Robert: snocone: thisisarepeat: Bob Robert: jshine: NewportBarGuy: If you are a gun-owner with an IQ over 65... Why are you a member of the NRA?

Because the ACLU will fight for any and all of the rest of the Bill of Rights, but they choose to ignore the 2nd Amendment?  Therefore, the NRA is required in order to fill in the gap and provide a well-rounded defense of all of our individual rights.

They don't ignore it. They understand the proper definition and intent. They are what you call educated and with no skin in the game like all the gun supporters who feel they are constantly under threat.

SCOTUS has defined the second amendment.  Nobody has to speculate about it any longer.

Like rust, anti-gunners never sleep.

inch by inch, step by step, slowly


Another coward who lives in fear every waking money of their life.


Are you talking to me?
 
2014-04-27 06:11:52 PM

Pokey.Clyde: K3rmy: I want to go to an NRA convention to ask what is the appropriate firearm for someone who is hung like a horse?  Do other people have to turn in their firearms to compensate for my generous endowment?  I mean, it is huge enough that the first four rows of the auditorium where they give speeches would have to leave unarmed and give up there jacked up trucks to boot.

Fewer than a dozen posts in a gun thread, and someone has already brought up penis size. If nothing, you folks sure are predictable.


It's all they have, but they also think about penises a lot.
 
2014-04-27 06:12:20 PM

snocone: Bob Robert: snocone: thisisarepeat: Bob Robert: jshine: NewportBarGuy: If you are a gun-owner with an IQ over 65... Why are you a member of the NRA?

Because the ACLU will fight for any and all of the rest of the Bill of Rights, but they choose to ignore the 2nd Amendment?  Therefore, the NRA is required in order to fill in the gap and provide a well-rounded defense of all of our individual rights.

They don't ignore it. They understand the proper definition and intent. They are what you call educated and with no skin in the game like all the gun supporters who feel they are constantly under threat.

SCOTUS has defined the second amendment.  Nobody has to speculate about it any longer.

Like rust, anti-gunners never sleep.

inch by inch, step by step, slowly


Another coward who lives in fear every waking money of their life.

Are you talking to me?



No I'm talking to the other guy who uses emotion and fear like this

inch by inch, step by step, slowly
 
2014-04-27 06:13:27 PM

thisisarepeat: yep you're right "poll" I have no education what so ever.


That's right, you equated a tactic used to disenfranchise minority voters with restrictions on guns. That by itself makes you uneducated. But then you used pole and that sealed it.
 
2014-04-27 06:14:03 PM

Enemabag Jones: dok9874
Didn't that already pretty much happen at Sandy Hook, just in not quite as large a number? I'm not seeing a big change in the landscape other than in the liberal controlly states like Connecticut and New York. And even then, folks are balking against the restrictive registration laws and giving an effective non-compliance F*** Y** to The Establishment. On other hand, in the last number of years, background checks for firearm purchases have skyrocketed.

I don't pretend to know what the magic number of gradeschoolers getting murdered by unskilled psychopaths able to do math will make people change their mind about the NRA.

I don't know what folks are doing to balk against restrictive registration laws or how they are giving non-compliance f**k y**s to what establishment. It is possible that you have different sources then I.


They're "balking" against restrictive registration laws by NOT registering.  I don't live anywhere near New York or Connecticut but even the casual observer should have taken note of the news reports (clearly you haven't).  From openly burning registration forms (NY) to not bothering to register the estimated large numbers of high capacity mags in CT.  It's hard to take your comments seriously when you're not even paying attention to reality and hard facts that are easily found with a modicum of google skills.  And Sandy Hook was a pretty damn big news story for you not to have any idea how many kids were slaughtered, other than you're just not paying attention, not that you have "different sources" than I do.
 
2014-04-27 06:14:41 PM

Bob Robert: thisisarepeat: Since we still have affirmative action, should we compromise and allow "literacy tests" at poles? No we should not compromise, and you'r a dick for even bringing that up.

Illogical appeals to emotion. Gun restrictions are not "pole" (LOL) taxes. But I can see your education level quite clearly.


who said anything about taxes?  your reading comprehension could use some work.
 
2014-04-27 06:16:27 PM

Bob Robert: snocone: Bob Robert: snocone: thisisarepeat: Bob Robert: jshine: NewportBarGuy: If you are a gun-owner with an IQ over 65... Why are you a member of the NRA?

Because the ACLU will fight for any and all of the rest of the Bill of Rights, but they choose to ignore the 2nd Amendment?  Therefore, the NRA is required in order to fill in the gap and provide a well-rounded defense of all of our individual rights.

They don't ignore it. They understand the proper definition and intent. They are what you call educated and with no skin in the game like all the gun supporters who feel they are constantly under threat.

SCOTUS has defined the second amendment.  Nobody has to speculate about it any longer.

Like rust, anti-gunners never sleep.

inch by inch, step by step, slowly


Another coward who lives in fear every waking money of their life.

Are you talking to me?


No I'm talking to the other guy who uses emotion and fear like this

inch by inch, step by step, slowly


Please "FOR THE CHILDREN!!"  "SAVE THE CHILDREN"  "NO MORE CHILD MURDER!"      no emotion or fear mongering going there.
 
2014-04-27 06:17:07 PM

Bob Robert: thisisarepeat: yep you're right "poll" I have no education what so ever.

That's right, you equated a tactic used to disenfranchise minority voters with restrictions on guns. That by itself makes you uneducated. But then you used pole and that sealed it.


What you call a "tactic used to disenfranchise ", others might call a "reasonable restriction".

Perhaps we should just respect all rights equally...
 
2014-04-27 06:22:06 PM

Bob Robert: Another coward who lives in fear every waking money of their life


snocone: Are you talking to me?


Apparently, yes.

www.citizenarcane.com
 
2014-04-27 06:22:16 PM
Aww yeah, time to sit back and see what all the whiny anti gun activists have to say..... I'm sure it will be a laugh riot.
 
2014-04-27 06:36:03 PM

jaytkay: Bob Robert: Another coward who lives in fear every waking money of their life

snocone: Are you talking to me?

Apparently, yes.

[www.citizenarcane.com image 350x226]


amazement and pity
 
2014-04-27 06:36:18 PM

Adolf Oliver Nipples: No, that is not correct. The vast majority of airline pilots come from the military. general aviation pilots get their licenses because they want to fly for fun.


It's a bit more complicated than that.  Consider the episode with the 777 at SFO a while back.  A couple of Korean pilots simulator jockeys with 10,000 hours of sitting around watching a computer fly the plane almost got everybody killed when the situation called for a perfectly ordinary manual approach.  One reason for that was that nobody in Korea, including Capt. S. T. Wong and First Officer W. T. Lo,  flies small aircraft for fun or any other reason.  Meanwhile, I'll bet half of the airline pilots for US carriers have their own small planes (at least the ones who can afford to.)  Who would you rather fly with?

Having a lot of young men who are already familiar with guns has historically been a good thing in wartime, for similar reasons.  Not so much of a factor these days, of course, but WWII vets will tell you it made a difference back when they onions on their ammo belts.

Personally, I like the idea of a government that's scared shiatless of its well-armed population.  Maybe you want people who have a 20% approval rating to hold a monopoly on the use of force, but I don't see the long-term upside.  Neither does the NRA.
 
2014-04-27 06:36:23 PM

Bob Robert: That's right, you equated a tactic used to disenfranchise minority voters with restrictions on guns. That by itself makes you uneducated. But then you used pole and that sealed it.


A 9 day old account, calling everyone in a gun thread who disagrees stupid/moronic/uneducated. Nope. Not a troll at all. Nothing to see here.
 
2014-04-27 06:44:27 PM

FizixJunkee: Doktor_Zhivago: NPR goes to NRA convention and reports the words of people actually in attendance like a good news source should.

Somehow this makes them anti-gun because libruls or something.

This.

My experience is that NPR is pretty centrist in their reporting.  You have to be far, far right-wing to consider them liberal.


They are not Fox, so, by definition, they are liberal.

Liberal is anything to the left of Attila the Hun.
 
2014-04-27 06:56:17 PM

Bob Robert: Next week's Tom Sawyer: Bob Robert: Next week's Tom Sawyer: LOL. An accusation of derp without even knowing what I was talking about. Here's a clue: the AOPA has nothing to do with regional airlines. They are an advocate for general aviation. And yes, regulation presents a significant burden to general aviation.

So making the profession of pilot completely unrealistic unless you can finance the 50k or more required for all the proper ratings has nothing to do with the number of people who want to get their license and ratings? I know exactly what you're talking about, you blame "over regulation" but have no clue what you are talking about. Thanks for making this debate quick and easy though. Usually the uneducated will run in circles and throw out more insults before just repeating their talking point phrase like it means something without facts.

You are the one throwing out insults. Seems weird for you to thank someone for not doing something you're already doing plenty of.

If you want to argue about the extent government regulation is hurting general aviation, then find someone else. Its irrelevant to my point. Just go look at where the AOPA is focusing its lobbying and you will see what concerns them the most.


I'm not arguing, I'm lecturing you on why you claim of government regulation hurting the aviation industry is laughable and not backed up by any facts. You are falling for the same THEYRE TAKIN YER GUNS scare tactics that gets so many with the dog whistle conservatives and libertarians. The problem with general aviation is the cost of making it anything other than a hobby is out of reach of most of America, and that is down to the low pay of pilots.


So if pilots were paid more, it would be cheaper to make flying more than a hobby? Sorry, but you really seem to be stretching your reasoning to deflect the effect of regulation on GA.

Even if we did accept your hypothesis that high training costs for commercial aviators was the cause of a decline in GA, one could easily point to the government regulation requiring first officers to have ATP licenses as a clear contributor to those costs.
 
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