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2014-04-27 03:21:39 PM  

Dimensio: We do not ridicule lawmakers with absolutely no understanding of how the Internet works who attempt to regulate electronic communication and copyright.

We do not insult lawmakers with no scientific training who are put on science and technology committees.

We do not suggest that lawmakers who are demonstrably ignorant of womens' reproductive health issues have no credibility when authoring laws regulating access to abortion and birth control.


Uh, yeah we do. Especially the last two.

I know you're not new here. You should know better.
 
2014-04-27 03:23:03 PM  

steklo:


Awesome. I be the was hoping his flowers would turn into a shotty. Maybe a shorter barrel though.

/with a red dot
//and collapsible stock
///and lasers
////maybe bayonets
 
2014-04-27 03:23:25 PM  
The_Sponge:

Karl Malone is an NRA member...so he is protecting himself from......himself?

From John Stockton.  Seriously, when those guys ran the pick and roll and you ran into JS, it was like running into a fire hydrant.  Arm the man.
 
2014-04-27 03:24:10 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: Dimensio: We do not ridicule lawmakers with absolutely no understanding of how the Internet works who attempt to regulate electronic communication and copyright.

We do not insult lawmakers with no scientific training who are put on science and technology committees.

We do not suggest that lawmakers who are demonstrably ignorant of womens' reproductive health issues have no credibility when authoring laws regulating access to abortion and birth control.

Uh, yeah we do. Especially the last two.

I know you're not new here. You should know better.


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2014-04-27 03:24:20 PM  

LeroyBourne: The_Sponge:

Karl Malone is an NRA member...so he is protecting himself from......himself?

From John Stockton.  Seriously, when those guys ran the pick and roll and you ran into JS, it was like running into a fire hydrant.  Arm the man.


I chuckled.
 
2014-04-27 03:24:39 PM  

The_Sponge: jaytkay: Adolf Oliver Nipples: Without them there is the strong possibility that there would be few gun owners of any IQ.

Meanwhile, in reality, there were millions of gun owners in the US before the NRA went full retard.

However there were far fewer who believed that they "needed" a gun because of the "big black guy" lurking around very corner.

Karl Malone is an NRA member...so he is protecting himself from......himself?


Or this guy who is on the NRA Board of Governors since the 80's
www.congressofracialequality.org
 
2014-04-27 03:25:56 PM  

Bob Robert: We'd have federal total bans because of reasons. You convinced me.


I didn't say anything about federal total bans, though they were certainly a possibility. As for convincing you, I'm not trying to convince you. If the changes in the regulatory landscape and the rhetoric of gun-control advocates hasn't convinced you there is nothing I can do about it on a message board.

Is there something about the subject that makes it impossible for people to argue in good faith without cheap rhetoric?
 
2014-04-27 03:25:58 PM  

jedihirsch: The_Sponge: jaytkay: Adolf Oliver Nipples: Without them there is the strong possibility that there would be few gun owners of any IQ.

Meanwhile, in reality, there were millions of gun owners in the US before the NRA went full retard.

However there were far fewer who believed that they "needed" a gun because of the "big black guy" lurking around very corner.

Karl Malone is an NRA member...so he is protecting himself from......himself?

Or this guy who is on the NRA Board of Governors since the 80's
[www.congressofracialequality.org image 250x320]


1 out of how many?
 
2014-04-27 03:27:18 PM  

Fark It: I'm sorry, but what's so scary about this article?  None of the quotes were political, and none of the people they talked to were foaming-at-the-mouth lunatics.

Is it just scary because "ZOMG GUNS!"?


Well, you gotta remember that to the right-wingers, this is the strawman NPR we're dealing with; with is the libbiest liberal leftist lefty hitsquad to ever lefty-lib.
 
2014-04-27 03:28:10 PM  
The ideal thread for my rant:
Remember prohibition?  The Volstead Act was the law that provided the specifics for prohibition.  It was not just vodka, and other hard booze.  It included bottled wine beer.  Compromise might have allowed the Volstead Act to continue to exist if they will willing to compromise with 3% beer and wine, but the prohibitionists did not want to allow the sale of any wine or beer.  And they were effective with making sure what representatives survived and didn't.

Then people got sick of the stupidity, and all alcohol was legal again.

What is my point, pretty soon someone smart enough is going to take a AR, do the math, kill 55 primary schoolchildren, and that will be all she wrote.  The NRA will no longer be able to defend any reasonable gun rights and since they are the only game in town, many; many gun rights will be lost.

If the NRA is the only game in town continuing to act like they are, this will end badly for the rights of gun owners that are not profiting from the sale of more and more guns.

\Not that I am against booze, just works as an example.
 
2014-04-27 03:28:16 PM  

Bob Robert: jedihirsch: The_Sponge: jaytkay: Adolf Oliver Nipples: Without them there is the strong possibility that there would be few gun owners of any IQ.

Meanwhile, in reality, there were millions of gun owners in the US before the NRA went full retard.

However there were far fewer who believed that they "needed" a gun because of the "big black guy" lurking around very corner.

Karl Malone is an NRA member...so he is protecting himself from......himself?

Or this guy who is on the NRA Board of Governors since the 80's
[www.congressofracialequality.org image 250x320]

1 out of how many?


Does it matter?
 
2014-04-27 03:29:39 PM  

Enemabag Jones: The ideal thread for my rant:
Remember prohibition?  The Volstead Act was the law that provided the specifics for prohibition.  It was not just vodka, and other hard booze.  It included bottled wine beer.  Compromise might have allowed the Volstead Act to continue to exist if they will willing to compromise with 3% beer and wine, but the prohibitionists did not want to allow the sale of any wine or beer.  And they were effective with making sure what representatives survived and didn't.

Then people got sick of the stupidity, and all alcohol was legal again.

What is my point, pretty soon someone smart enough is going to take a AR, do the math, kill 55 primary schoolchildren, and that will be all she wrote.  The NRA will no longer be able to defend any reasonable gun rights and since they are the only game in town, many; many gun rights will be lost.

If the NRA is the only game in town continuing to act like they are, this will end badly for the rights of gun owners that are not profiting from the sale of more and more guns.

\Not that I am against booze, just works as an example.


What the heck is "wine beer"?
 
2014-04-27 03:31:29 PM  

macross87: Enemabag Jones: The ideal thread for my rant:
Remember prohibition?  The Volstead Act was the law that provided the specifics for prohibition.  It was not just vodka, and other hard booze.  It included bottled wine beer.  Compromise might have allowed the Volstead Act to continue to exist if they will willing to compromise with 3% beer and wine, but the prohibitionists did not want to allow the sale of any wine or beer.  And they were effective with making sure what representatives survived and didn't.

Then people got sick of the stupidity, and all alcohol was legal again.

What is my point, pretty soon someone smart enough is going to take a AR, do the math, kill 55 primary schoolchildren, and that will be all she wrote.  The NRA will no longer be able to defend any reasonable gun rights and since they are the only game in town, many; many gun rights will be lost.

If the NRA is the only game in town continuing to act like they are, this will end badly for the rights of gun owners that are not profiting from the sale of more and more guns.

\Not that I am against booze, just works as an example.

What the heck is "wine beer"?


Barley wine? :-)

/Fan of Sierra Nevada's Bigfoot Ale?
 
2014-04-27 03:32:58 PM  
Whoops.....please ignore that last question mark.
 
2014-04-27 03:33:10 PM  

The_Sponge: jaytkay: Adolf Oliver Nipples: Without them there is the strong possibility that there would be few gun owners of any IQ.

Meanwhile, in reality, there were millions of gun owners in the US before the NRA went full retard.

However there were far fewer who believed that they "needed" a gun because of the "big black guy" lurking around very corner.

Karl Malone is an NRA member...so he is protecting himself from......himself?


Good point. Naming one exception totally blows apart my point. Silly me.
 
2014-04-27 03:34:47 PM  

K3rmy: I want to go to an NRA convention to ask what is the appropriate firearm for someone who is hung like a horse?  Do other people have to turn in their firearms to compensate for my generous endowment?  I mean, it is huge enough that the first four rows of the auditorium where they give speeches would have to leave unarmed and give up there jacked up trucks to boot.


Frylock - Where's Carl?
Carl (other room)- [Oh, yeah! Awesome!]
Shake - He's, uh, enhancing himself.
Meatwad - Is he learning a second language?
Carl (other room) - [Hey, you guys got a wheelbarrow in here or, uh, you know, grocery cart or something?]
Frylock - No, Carl, we don't.
Carl (other room)- [Anything with wheels?]
Frylock - No, Carl.
{Frylock and Meatwad go into the room with Carl}
Carl - What, you're telling me I got to drag this frickin' thing across the lawn? Call the neighbors. I want them to see this.
Meatwad - Oh, damn!
Frylock - Oh, my God.
 
2014-04-27 03:35:34 PM  

Target Builder: NRA members, who pay anywhere from $10 to join for a year to $500 for a lifetime membership.

50 years up front for a lifetime membership?

That's a really shiat bulk buy deal.


You sound like a guy who's not going to live past 120.
 
2014-04-27 03:36:07 PM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: Is there something about the subject that makes it impossible for people to argue in good faith without cheap rhetoric?


Is there something about the subject that makes people argue emotionally from fear of exploding violent crime rates when in reality the rates have plummeted over the past twenty years?

/ Yes, there is
 
2014-04-27 03:36:12 PM  

jaytkay: The_Sponge: jaytkay: Adolf Oliver Nipples: Without them there is the strong possibility that there would be few gun owners of any IQ.

Meanwhile, in reality, there were millions of gun owners in the US before the NRA went full retard.

However there were far fewer who believed that they "needed" a gun because of the "big black guy" lurking around very corner.

Karl Malone is an NRA member...so he is protecting himself from......himself?

Good point. Naming one exception totally blows apart my point. Silly me.


The real irony is that gun control is steeped in racism. And yes, the exceptions disprove your assertions.
 
2014-04-27 03:37:23 PM  

The_Sponge: NewportBarGuy: If you are a gun-owner with an IQ over 65... Why are you a member of the NRA?

IIRC, aren't you the guy who used to own an AR-15, and now has the nerve to tell other people that they should not be allowed to legally own one?


Great reading comprehension.
Your question was no answer to the question NBG asked.
 
2014-04-27 03:38:47 PM  

jaytkay: Adolf Oliver Nipples: Is there something about the subject that makes it impossible for people to argue in good faith without cheap rhetoric?

Is there something about the subject that makes people argue emotionally from fear of exploding violent crime rates when in reality the rates have plummeted over the past twenty years?

/ Yes, there is


Perhaps you might answer my question with something other than a question of your own.

And I am not arguing from emotion. I am well aware that violent crime rates have been plummeting, which certainly does not help the cause of gun-control advocates. Dropping crime rates undermines their position.
 
2014-04-27 03:38:51 PM  
macross87 ,
What the heck is "wine beer"?


Link
And another NPR link answers that question. The supporters of the Volstead Act, mashups like this scared them silly.
 
2014-04-27 03:41:22 PM  

Enemabag Jones: The ideal thread for my rant:
Remember prohibition?  The Volstead Act was the law that provided the specifics for prohibition.  It was not just vodka, and other hard booze.  It included bottled wine beer.  Compromise might have allowed the Volstead Act to continue to exist if they will willing to compromise with 3% beer and wine, but the prohibitionists did not want to allow the sale of any wine or beer.  And they were effective with making sure what representatives survived and didn't.

Then people got sick of the stupidity, and all alcohol was legal again.

What is my point, pretty soon someone smart enough is going to take a AR, do the math, kill 55 primary schoolchildren, and that will be all she wrote.  The NRA will no longer be able to defend any reasonable gun rights and since they are the only game in town, many; many gun rights will be lost.

If the NRA is the only game in town continuing to act like they are, this will end badly for the rights of gun owners that are not profiting from the sale of more and more guns.

\Not that I am against booze, just works as an example.


What the heck is "vodka"?
 
2014-04-27 03:42:12 PM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: jaytkay: Meanwhile, in reality, there were millions of gun owners in the US before the NRA went full retard.

And since then, since 1977 when the NRA went "full retard"


What did the NRA do in 1977 that you think I think is "full retard"?
 
2014-04-27 03:43:45 PM  

maldinero: The_Sponge: NewportBarGuy: If you are a gun-owner with an IQ over 65... Why are you a member of the NRA?

IIRC, aren't you the guy who used to own an AR-15, and now has the nerve to tell other people that they should not be allowed to legally own one?

Great reading comprehension.
Your question was no answer to the question NBG asked.


A question that was a pathetic trolling attempt.
 
2014-04-27 03:44:31 PM  
I am actually pro-gun, but I think the NRA does a huge disservice to the gun-owning public by saying that the second amendment is for Barrett .50-Cal's and grenade launchers as much as it is for Winchester rifles. Can't we all come to the table with some sort of middle ground compromise that says you can own as many handguns and rifles as you want, but there are certain weapons that aren't appropriate in the hands of civilians?

/pro-gun, pro-death penalty
//call me a lib all you want
///anyone else hate posting comments in the iOS app, where you can't see what you're typing?
 
2014-04-27 03:45:28 PM  

Chinchillazilla: hardinparamedic: Oh God. I can only imagine the Con Funk there.

It must smell like sweaty feet wrapped in burned, leathery bacon.

With the odor of gun lubricant wafting over everything.


It could smell pretty good then:

premierarms.com

/mmm minty!
 
2014-04-27 03:47:45 PM  
CruiserTwelve,
What the heck is "vodka"?


Something invented by the Polish used by chronic drunks because it allegedly does not give them away as easy.
 
2014-04-27 03:48:50 PM  

jaytkay: Adolf Oliver Nipples: jaytkay: Meanwhile, in reality, there were millions of gun owners in the US before the NRA went full retard.

And since then, since 1977 when the NRA went "full retard"

What did the NRA do in 1977 that you think I think is "full retard"?


The NRA was not an active lobbying group or a political powerhouse until the 1977 NRA convention in Cincinnati.
 
2014-04-27 03:49:00 PM  
I wonder how much of their speaking teleprompter scripts had to be tossed out at the last minute the moment they found out what a major flaming racist Clive Bundy really is?
 
2014-04-27 03:50:32 PM  

hardinparamedic: Oh God. I can only imagine the Con Funk there.

It must smell like sweaty feet wrapped in burned, leathery bacon.


Well, something has to cancel out the nerd residue left from Gencon and Comiccon.
 
2014-04-27 03:50:56 PM  

zerkalo: I'm sure the NRA will have decent convention. Unless something weird happened. Like, I don't know, they paid Sarah Palin to give a speech celebrating torture. But that would never happen, would it?

Oh dear...


In my experience the people that are the loudest in their complaints about water-boarding and other methods of torture practiced by the US government are the same ones that are pro-baby murder. Somehow none of them seem to have any understanding of how hypocritical their position is on these two subjects... Harming an adult to get information is "bad", but viciously murdering a baby before it can have a real chance at life is just fine. Sorry, if you hold the latter position then you have no moral ground to stand upon regarding any subject at all.
 
2014-04-27 03:57:55 PM  

Fark It: I'm sorry, but what's so scary about this article?  None of the quotes were political, and none of the people they talked to were foaming-at-the-mouth lunatics.

Is it just scary because "ZOMG GUNS!"?


Libs are scared shiatless of everything from a pocket knife to a Derringer, yet it's apparently the pro-gun crowd who "live in fear."
 
2014-04-27 03:58:31 PM  
HangMan
I am actually pro-gun, but I think the NRA does a huge disservice to the gun-owning public by saying that the second amendment is for Barrett .50-Cal's and grenade launchers as much as it is for Winchester rifles. Can't we all come to the table with some sort of middle ground compromise that says you can own as many handguns and rifles as you want, but there are certain weapons that aren't appropriate in the hands of civilians?
/pro-gun, pro-death penalty
//call me a lib all you want
///anyone else hate posting comments in the iOS app, where you can't see what you're typing?


Why all the Barrett hate? That is one sporting rifle there, and at about five feet long, with what I assume is relatively few examples out there at about 5k per and easily traceable match .50 ammo, it is very low on my list of life risks. And consider, actually being able use one as a sniper, that would probably take some training.

Don't let a few corporate VIPs and senators hate on that and scare you. If you want to be scared of a gun think about a random 9mm or ak/ar from your looney office co-worker.
 
2014-04-27 03:59:59 PM  

TV's Vinnie: I wonder how much of their speaking teleprompter scripts had to be tossed out at the last minute the moment they found out what a major flaming racist Clive Bundy really is?


If only Bundy would have kept his mouth shut just a couple more days...
 
2014-04-27 04:00:55 PM  

HangMan: I am actually pro-gun, but I think the NRA does a huge disservice to the gun-owning public by saying that the second amendment is for Barrett .50-Cal's and grenade launchers as much as it is for Winchester rifles. Can't we all come to the table with some sort of middle ground compromise that says you can own as many handguns and rifles as you want, but there are certain weapons that aren't appropriate in the hands of civilians?

/pro-gun, pro-death penalty
//call me a lib all you want
///anyone else hate posting comments in the iOS app, where you can't see what you're typing?


Grenade launchers are regulated at an entirely different level than winchester rifles. Barrett rifles cost how much, 10-15K? Any crimes committed with those are going to be so negligible in number you'd be wasting time on that which could be better addressed elsewhere.
 
2014-04-27 04:00:55 PM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: jaytkay: Adolf Oliver Nipples: jaytkay: Meanwhile, in reality, there were millions of gun owners in the US before the NRA went full retard.

And since then, since 1977 when the NRA went "full retard"

What did the NRA do in 1977 that you think I think is "full retard"?

The NRA was not an active lobbying group or a political powerhouse until the 1977 NRA convention in Cincinnati.


Interesting. I did not know that. Thank you.
 
2014-04-27 04:03:59 PM  
I'm a hunter and competition shooter, I enjoy shooting, I own several guns, and I will not join the NRA those gun crazed loonies scare the shiat out of me.
 
2014-04-27 04:04:05 PM  

TerminalEchoes: Libs are scared shiatless of everything from a pocket knife to a Derringer, yet it's apparently the pro-gun crowd who "live in fear."


I'm a liberal living in Chicago. I shoot guns but I have not reason to carry one around town. The frightened clowns are the bed-wetting conservatives who "need" a gun to visit the 7-11 in the suburbs.
 
2014-04-27 04:06:22 PM  
Deep thoughts by Sarah Palin at NRA convention:
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/sarah-palin-talks-waterboarding-guns-at- nr a-convention/

Spoiler: "...we baptize terrorists by waterboarding them".
 
2014-04-27 04:07:38 PM  
I'll never understand gun people. They (you) are sick people. Gun enthusiasts make bronies look normal.
 
2014-04-27 04:11:24 PM  

PapaChester: I'll never understand gun people. They (you) are sick people. Gun enthusiasts make bronies look normal.


They probably look at us and wonder why stand in line for 4 hours to get a cell phone.  And kill people while texting and driving.
 
2014-04-27 04:11:56 PM  

PapaChester: I'll never understand gun people. They (you) are sick people. Gun enthusiasts make bronies look normal.


I am not even a little bit sick. I don't hurl random insults, either, or make judgments that I am not equipped to make, unlike yourself.
 
2014-04-27 04:12:57 PM  

NewportBarGuy: If you are a gun-owner with an IQ over 65... Why are you a member of the NRA?


Because the ACLU will fight for any and all of the rest of the Bill of Rights, but they choose to ignore the 2nd Amendment?  Therefore, the NRA is required in order to fill in the gap and provide a well-rounded defense of all of our individual rights.
 
2014-04-27 04:13:11 PM  

PapaChester: I'll never understand gun people. They (you) are sick people. Gun enthusiasts make bronies look normal.


img705.imageshack.us
 
2014-04-27 04:14:19 PM  

jaytkay: The frightened clowns are the bed-wetting conservatives who "need" a gun to visit the 7-11 in the suburbs.


You never know what you might run into while checking your mail, you better be armed.

/Seriously don't get the folks who feel the need to be armed 24/7.
//Concealed carry is a good thing though if you transport guns on a regular basis in your home state.
 
2014-04-27 04:16:07 PM  
I joined the NRA to specifically help fund the counterbalance to groups and politicians who want to ban access to guns.

/Own 8, none of them AR-style.
//Yet--they look like fun to shoot at the range.
///Not afraid of any shadow-dwelling boogy-man or the gub'mint--guns are simply fun to learn how to shoot properly and use for hunting.
 
2014-04-27 04:17:01 PM  

steklo: [img.fark.net image 332x500][img.fark.net image 640x850][img.fark.net image 275x400]


I learned something today.  Until your post I didn't actually realize that the image of Palin in an American flag bikini with the rifle was a shop.
 
2014-04-27 04:17:26 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: The NRA is the lobbying arm for the firearms manufacturing industry - if you want the pure, uncut derp you gotta go to one of those Gun Shows at the rural county fairgrounds.


I prefer my lobbyists to be bribing senators allowing the citizenry more power to fight government than lobbyists bribing senators on behalf of big business with the intent of screwing the citizenry.

But that's just me.  Your mileage may vary.
 
2014-04-27 04:18:27 PM  
jshine
Because the ACLU will fight for any and all of the rest of the Bill of Rights, but they choose to ignore the 2nd Amendment? Therefore, the NRA is required in order to fill in the gap and provide a well-rounded defense of all of our individual rights.


Are you sure about that? Are they out to protect gun owners or gun sellers?

And the fact that they endorsed Romney instead of just opting out of endorsing either candidate, sure does not help them as just a gun rights organization.
 
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