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2014-04-27 04:59:48 PM  

lindalouwho: Thunderpipes: Hahaha, stuck up biatch saying they are wrong for not "being tolerant of your lack of religion", yet she bashes them because of their religion. This is why liberals suck. Two standards for everything.

Just moved from VT to a rural VA town. People say prayers here at town meetings and school function. I think religion is dumb. But you know what? People here are 20 times as nice as they are in stuck up liberal VT. And contrary to what the moron Farkers say, they don't walk around the streets recruiting and preaching. Just better people than liberals.

You don't really believe that no one who practices a religion is also a liberal, do you?


To be fair, socialism and Christianity are perfect fits. Perhaps Thunderboy is a douche conservative because he is a nihilist.
 
2014-04-27 04:59:52 PM  

Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: Thunderpipes: Hahaha, stuck up biatch saying they are wrong for not "being tolerant of your lack of religion", yet she bashes them because of their religion. This is why liberals suck. Two standards for everything.

Just moved from VT to a rural VA town. People say prayers here at town meetings and school function. I think religion is dumb. But you know what? People here are 20 times as nice as they are in stuck up liberal VT. And contrary to what the moron Farkers say, they don't walk around the streets recruiting and preaching. Just better people than liberals.

And as we all know, strangers pretending to be nice to you is way more important than anything else.

/Lived in VT for a few years.  Would much rather deal with rude honest people than "nice" dishonest people.
//Also, if most of the people you dealt with in VT were rude to you, odds are it was because you were being a flaming douche-nozzle about something.  They're friendly enough people if you're being friendly, but they've got no patience for assholes.


Well, all that's important is that you've found an explanation (or explanations) which agree(s) with your preconceptions. So you have that going for you. Which is nice.
 
2014-04-27 05:01:30 PM  

Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: Thunderpipes: Hahaha, stuck up biatch saying they are wrong for not "being tolerant of your lack of religion", yet she bashes them because of their religion. This is why liberals suck. Two standards for everything.

Just moved from VT to a rural VA town. People say prayers here at town meetings and school function. I think religion is dumb. But you know what? People here are 20 times as nice as they are in stuck up liberal VT. And contrary to what the moron Farkers say, they don't walk around the streets recruiting and preaching. Just better people than liberals.

And as we all know, strangers pretending to be nice to you is way more important than anything else.

/Lived in VT for a few years.  Would much rather deal with rude honest people than "nice" dishonest people.
//Also, if most of the people you dealt with in VT were rude to you, odds are it was because you were being a flaming douche-nozzle about something.  They're friendly enough people if you're being friendly, but they've got no patience for assholes.


No, it is because liberals, like most people on this board as an example, are intolerant, smarmy crybabies who like fat chicks.

Funniest part is, you say you hate "intolerant" conservatives, yet you hate everyone who does not think exactly like you, and bash them whenever you can. You even make stuff up to justify your hate. Double standards, how they work? You are liars, and simply bad people inside. Good thing is, your overlords in office are showing their colors, screwing things up so badly, the backlash might educate some people as to your real spirit.
 
2014-04-27 05:01:32 PM  

Repo Man: Hey, remember Damon Fowler?

Damon Fowler, an atheist student at Bastrop High School in Louisiana, was about to graduate. His public school was planning to have a prayer as part of the graduation ceremony: as they traditionally did, as so many public schools around the country do every year. But Fowler -- knowing that government-sponsored prayer in the public schools is unconstitutional and legally forbidden -- contacted the school superintendent to let him know that he opposed the prayer, and would be contacting the ACLU if it happened. The school -- at first, anyway -- agreed, and canceled the prayer...

...Fowler has been hounded, pilloried, and ostracized by his community. He's become the center of what he terms a "shiatstorm": he has been harassed, vilified, targeted with insults and name-calling and hateful remarks. He's been told t he's the Devil. He's been told, "Go cry to your mommy... oh, wait. You can't." (A reference to him being disowned by his parents.) He's been told that he's only doing this to get attention. A student's public prayer at a pre-graduation "Class Night" event was turned into an opportunity for the school and community to gang up on Fowler and publicly close ranks against him -- teachers as well as students. (Here's video). And people seen defending him have been targeted as well.


Good
 
2014-04-27 05:02:23 PM  

Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: Thunderpipes: Hahaha, stuck up biatch saying they are wrong for not "being tolerant of your lack of religion", yet she bashes them because of their religion. This is why liberals suck. Two standards for everything.

Just moved from VT to a rural VA town. People say prayers here at town meetings and school function. I think religion is dumb. But you know what? People here are 20 times as nice as they are in stuck up liberal VT. And contrary to what the moron Farkers say, they don't walk around the streets recruiting and preaching. Just better people than liberals.

And as we all know, strangers pretending to be nice to you is way more important than anything else.

/Lived in VT for a few years.  Would much rather deal with rude honest people than "nice" dishonest people.
//Also, if most of the people you dealt with in VT were rude to you, odds are it was because you were being a flaming douche-nozzle about something.  They're friendly enough people if you're being friendly, but they've got no patience for assholes.


How do you know what they truly think? Do you just not want to believe they're nice, or can you read minds?

Because I need someone for a market research project.
 
2014-04-27 05:02:51 PM  

Repo Man: Hey, remember Damon Fowler?

Damon Fowler, an atheist student at Bastrop High School in Louisiana, was about to graduate. His public school was planning to have a prayer as part of the graduation ceremony: as they traditionally did, as so many public schools around the country do every year. But Fowler -- knowing that government-sponsored prayer in the public schools is unconstitutional and legally forbidden -- contacted the school superintendent to let him know that he opposed the prayer, and would be contacting the ACLU if it happened. The school -- at first, anyway -- agreed, and canceled the prayer...

...Fowler has been hounded, pilloried, and ostracized by his community. He's become the center of what he terms a "shiatstorm": he has been harassed, vilified, targeted with insults and name-calling and hateful remarks. He's been told t he's the Devil. He's been told, "Go cry to your mommy... oh, wait. You can't." (A reference to him being disowned by his parents.) He's been told that he's only doing this to get attention. A student's public prayer at a pre-graduation "Class Night" event was turned into an opportunity for the school and community to gang up on Fowler and publicly close ranks against him -- teachers as well as students. (Here's video). And people seen defending him have been targeted as well.


Yeah, but that's 20 times nicer than what people in VT would have said to him!
 
2014-04-27 05:05:23 PM  

rebelyell2006: lindalouwho: Thunderpipes: Hahaha, stuck up biatch saying they are wrong for not "being tolerant of your lack of religion", yet she bashes them because of their religion. This is why liberals suck. Two standards for everything.

Just moved from VT to a rural VA town. People say prayers here at town meetings and school function. I think religion is dumb. But you know what? People here are 20 times as nice as they are in stuck up liberal VT. And contrary to what the moron Farkers say, they don't walk around the streets recruiting and preaching. Just better people than liberals.

You don't really believe that no one who practices a religion is also a liberal, do you?

To be fair, socialism and Christianity are perfect fits. Perhaps Thunderboy is a douche conservative because he is a nihilist.


Communism, too. And everything else I personally like! It's a treasure trove of personal vindication.
 
2014-04-27 05:08:02 PM  

Wangiss: rebelyell2006: lindalouwho: Thunderpipes: Hahaha, stuck up biatch saying they are wrong for not "being tolerant of your lack of religion", yet she bashes them because of their religion. This is why liberals suck. Two standards for everything.

Just moved from VT to a rural VA town. People say prayers here at town meetings and school function. I think religion is dumb. But you know what? People here are 20 times as nice as they are in stuck up liberal VT. And contrary to what the moron Farkers say, they don't walk around the streets recruiting and preaching. Just better people than liberals.

You don't really believe that no one who practices a religion is also a liberal, do you?

To be fair, socialism and Christianity are perfect fits. Perhaps Thunderboy is a douche conservative because he is a nihilist.

Communism, too. And everything else I personally like! It's a treasure trove of personal vindication.


Ah, yes. Both Sides Are Bad So Vote Republican Baptist, amirite?
 
2014-04-27 05:11:22 PM  

rebelyell2006: Wangiss: rebelyell2006: lindalouwho: Thunderpipes: Hahaha, stuck up biatch saying they are wrong for not "being tolerant of your lack of religion", yet she bashes them because of their religion. This is why liberals suck. Two standards for everything.

Just moved from VT to a rural VA town. People say prayers here at town meetings and school function. I think religion is dumb. But you know what? People here are 20 times as nice as they are in stuck up liberal VT. And contrary to what the moron Farkers say, they don't walk around the streets recruiting and preaching. Just better people than liberals.

You don't really believe that no one who practices a religion is also a liberal, do you?

To be fair, socialism and Christianity are perfect fits. Perhaps Thunderboy is a douche conservative because he is a nihilist.

Communism, too. And everything else I personally like! It's a treasure trove of personal vindication.

Ah, yes. Both Sides Are Bad So Vote Republican Baptist, amirite?


Yes! Everything you say is right and I must be a Republican Baptist! This is my favorite game!

/Not a Protestant
//Not a Catholic, either!
///Not a Republican or even a conservative

Pre-judging is AMAAAAAZING!
 
2014-04-27 05:14:15 PM  

WTFDYW: Repo Man: Hey, remember Damon Fowler?

Damon Fowler, an atheist student at Bastrop High School in Louisiana, was about to graduate. His public school was planning to have a prayer as part of the graduation ceremony: as they traditionally did, as so many public schools around the country do every year. But Fowler -- knowing that government-sponsored prayer in the public schools is unconstitutional and legally forbidden -- contacted the school superintendent to let him know that he opposed the prayer, and would be contacting the ACLU if it happened. The school -- at first, anyway -- agreed, and canceled the prayer...

...Fowler has been hounded, pilloried, and ostracized by his community. He's become the center of what he terms a "shiatstorm": he has been harassed, vilified, targeted with insults and name-calling and hateful remarks. He's been told t he's the Devil. He's been told, "Go cry to your mommy... oh, wait. You can't." (A reference to him being disowned by his parents.) He's been told that he's only doing this to get attention. A student's public prayer at a pre-graduation "Class Night" event was turned into an opportunity for the school and community to gang up on Fowler and publicly close ranks against him -- teachers as well as students. (Here's video). And people seen defending him have been targeted as well.

Good




Fark you.
 
2014-04-27 05:14:53 PM  

Thunderpipes: No, it is because liberals, like most people on this board as an example, are intolerant, smarmy crybabies who like fat chicks.


Thank you for that example proper, tolerant behavior.
 
2014-04-27 05:20:54 PM  

Cpl.D: GilRuiz1: It doesn't matter if you're in the Deep South, Borneo, Zimbabwe, or the furthest end of the world; this is just a fundamental rule of human societies. How do these people not know that?

Breaking the law is a core value?


Yep, if they're still praying in public school classrooms, then they do need to change. And someone has to get the ball rolling if that's ever going to happen.
 
2014-04-27 05:21:10 PM  

Wangiss: Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: Thunderpipes: Hahaha, stuck up biatch saying they are wrong for not "being tolerant of your lack of religion", yet she bashes them because of their religion. This is why liberals suck. Two standards for everything.

Just moved from VT to a rural VA town. People say prayers here at town meetings and school function. I think religion is dumb. But you know what? People here are 20 times as nice as they are in stuck up liberal VT. And contrary to what the moron Farkers say, they don't walk around the streets recruiting and preaching. Just better people than liberals.

And as we all know, strangers pretending to be nice to you is way more important than anything else.

/Lived in VT for a few years.  Would much rather deal with rude honest people than "nice" dishonest people.
//Also, if most of the people you dealt with in VT were rude to you, odds are it was because you were being a flaming douche-nozzle about something.  They're friendly enough people if you're being friendly, but they've got no patience for assholes.

How do you know what they truly think? Do you just not want to believe they're nice, or can you read minds?

Because I need someone for a market research project.


While I have not spent much time in VA, I have lived in rural Texas, and spent some time in fairly rural (and conservative) areas of Georgia and Florida.  Nearly every person I made acquaintances with in those places had a habit of being very nice and polite to just about anyone and everyone to their faces, then biatching about a number of them behind their backs.  It was like listening to high school girls.  "OMG, Skylar is such a farking slut.  I heard that she was caught behind the auditorium giving Jimmy-Wayne a....Oh, Hi Skylar!  You look fabulous today!  Did you color your hair?"

Conservatives get their undies in a wad over the idea of the "sneering liberal" because they would rather be lied to nicely than deal with blunt honesty.  To a conservative how something is presented is exponentially more important than what is being presented.  You can tell a conservative that they're a subhuman piece of shiat that's not worthy to lick the bottom of your shoes, and if you do it nicely they'll think you're a good person.  Tell them that you think they're a good person, but be rude about it, and they'll hate you for it.  Conservatives have the emotional maturity of a Labrador retriever.
 
2014-04-27 05:25:37 PM  

Wangiss: rebelyell2006: Wangiss: rebelyell2006: lindalouwho: Thunderpipes: Hahaha, stuck up biatch saying they are wrong for not "being tolerant of your lack of religion", yet she bashes them because of their religion. This is why liberals suck. Two standards for everything.

Just moved from VT to a rural VA town. People say prayers here at town meetings and school function. I think religion is dumb. But you know what? People here are 20 times as nice as they are in stuck up liberal VT. And contrary to what the moron Farkers say, they don't walk around the streets recruiting and preaching. Just better people than liberals.

You don't really believe that no one who practices a religion is also a liberal, do you?

To be fair, socialism and Christianity are perfect fits. Perhaps Thunderboy is a douche conservative because he is a nihilist.

Communism, too. And everything else I personally like! It's a treasure trove of personal vindication.

Ah, yes. Both Sides Are Bad So Vote Republican Baptist, amirite?

Yes! Everything you say is right and I must be a Republican Baptist! This is my favorite game!

/Not a Protestant
//Not a Catholic, either!
///Not a Republican or even a conservative

Pre-judging is AMAAAAAZING!


You can be whatever you want to be online, Mormon, Scientologist, obese Inuit transvestite, etc. You're still an insufferable consev... err, insufferable libertarian.
 
2014-04-27 05:28:47 PM  

zamboni: Coco LaFemme: Fissile: I hate Abe Lincoln.  I hate him because in the spirit of reconciliation  he didn't bring the Northern heel down on these freaks the way the allies did to the Germans after the war.

What exactly are you biatching about?  Andrew Johnson was the President during Reconstruction, so if anything, the lack of a boot up the ass of the Confederacy should come down on his head, not Lincoln's.

I think that was sarcasm. Lincoln was interested in reconciliation, which would've been a good thing. Johnson was interested in punishment, which led to decades and more of resentment. The assassination of Lincoln was one of the worst things that could've happened to the south.

(In case you didn't grasp the reference to Germany... which obviously you didn't.)

Homework assignment. Compare and contrast the German response to the terms after WWI vs. those after WWII. Which yielded a superior long term result?


Sarcasm isn't any fun if you have to explain it.  Jeez.
 
2014-04-27 05:30:13 PM  

Repo Man: WTFDYW: Repo Man: Hey, remember Damon Fowler?

Damon Fowler, an atheist student at Bastrop High School in Louisiana, was about to graduate. His public school was planning to have a prayer as part of the graduation ceremony: as they traditionally did, as so many public schools around the country do every year. But Fowler -- knowing that government-sponsored prayer in the public schools is unconstitutional and legally forbidden -- contacted the school superintendent to let him know that he opposed the prayer, and would be contacting the ACLU if it happened. The school -- at first, anyway -- agreed, and canceled the prayer...

...Fowler has been hounded, pilloried, and ostracized by his community. He's become the center of what he terms a "shiatstorm": he has been harassed, vilified, targeted with insults and name-calling and hateful remarks. He's been told t he's the Devil. He's been told, "Go cry to your mommy... oh, wait. You can't." (A reference to him being disowned by his parents.) He's been told that he's only doing this to get attention. A student's public prayer at a pre-graduation "Class Night" event was turned into an opportunity for the school and community to gang up on Fowler and publicly close ranks against him -- teachers as well as students. (Here's video). And people seen defending him have been targeted as well.

Good

Fark you.


Dawwwwwww
 
2014-04-27 05:47:57 PM  
There is only one solution to The South: get the f*ck out and don't come back.


there is no other solution.  they are ignorant, broke, wrapped up with a dead man who they claim is coming back to life, and proud of it.  you can't fix that.
 
2014-04-27 05:48:16 PM  
If I'm getting flak about something like this based on blind faith, I usually find it incredibly easy to turn the guilt trip around by replying with blind patriotism.

I mean, Jesus is great and all, and obviously everyone should pray (in private, as the bible demands), but the constitution explicitly demands that the federal and state governments not endorse or attempt to establish a state religion.  You know who else endorsed a single religion as a compatible institution with the state?  The USSR (with the Orthodox faith).  Are you some kind of communist?  Why are you trying to undermine the greatest nation on earth?  You're just going to abandon the rights your fathers and grandfathers fought and died mired in blood-filled ditches to secure?  Just gonna let it all slip away down the drain like some sort of weak-willed pussy?

You traitorous bastard.  Your ancestors are ashamed of you, trying to shiat all over the words of the founders.  Do you spend your weekends waiting at the airport to spit on returning veterans, too?  Oh, you're one of those traitorous dipshiats that want to defile the graves of brave soldiers that gave their lives for their country just because they were Jewish or Muslim, don't you?  Your kind of anti-American crusade against the troops make me sick.  How could you be against the troops?  Jesus Christ, get away from me before some of your unclean cowardice rubs off!

My Grandfather didn't fly a bomber through clouds of deadly chaff, each mission with a survival rate below half, just to have some anti-american wuss wipe his ass with the constitution.  You should be ashamed.

// I made a parent cry with this schtick once.  I'd say it actually works about 80% of the time, since anyone stupid enough to genuinely believe prayer in schools is anything but an abomination is pretty well-conditioned to respond to this kind of goalpost-shifting harangue.

// Yeah, I may have spent a lot of time around (and learned rhetoric from, initially) a certain type of preacher when I was a kid.  It's amazing how well the style maps to other forms of pointless bullshiat.
 
2014-04-27 05:49:57 PM  

Lsherm: make me some tea: That was a dick move to press the issue after it had been resolved.

They haven't yet, but that's in keeping with the mentality of some atheists.  They aren't comfortable unless all attention is on them, all the time.  It's like they're mentally ill.


That's hilarious coming from someone who believes in made-up nonsense (religion).
 
2014-04-27 05:55:29 PM  

zamboni: JoieD'Zen: Steve Zodiac: Not all, but most deeply religious people want to live with the social norms and accepted attitudes of the 1800's. And on the other side of the coin, the people of that community would say that the non-religious couples way of life was being forced upon them. Really the only answer for this couple is to move someplace less hostile.

Yep.

Yeah, and those uppity dark people should've moved to someplace less hostile.

I can't believe these atheist kids wanted to stop the good religious folk from praying in their churches and their homes and pretty much anywhere else they wanted to. It's really unreasonable to set aside about 30 hours a week out of 168 to learn useful things. Children can only pray in their own heads. No, I say... God, and I mean the Judeo-Christian God, as if there were any other, doesn't believe you unless you pray all the time, out loud, and proud. You hear me! All.The.Time!!!

/Yeah, I know.


I'm always bemused by 'pray hard' requests. Your god requires the sincerest of begging? Or better yet -- 'keep praying!' What? You think he forgot already? Omnipotent, my ass.
 
2014-04-27 05:58:05 PM  

rebelyell2006: Wangiss: rebelyell2006: Wangiss: rebelyell2006: lindalouwho: Thunderpipes: Hahaha, stuck up biatch saying they are wrong for not "being tolerant of your lack of religion", yet she bashes them because of their religion. This is why liberals suck. Two standards for everything.

Just moved from VT to a rural VA town. People say prayers here at town meetings and school function. I think religion is dumb. But you know what? People here are 20 times as nice as they are in stuck up liberal VT. And contrary to what the moron Farkers say, they don't walk around the streets recruiting and preaching. Just better people than liberals.

You don't really believe that no one who practices a religion is also a liberal, do you?

To be fair, socialism and Christianity are perfect fits. Perhaps Thunderboy is a douche conservative because he is a nihilist.

Communism, too. And everything else I personally like! It's a treasure trove of personal vindication.

Ah, yes. Both Sides Are Bad So Vote Republican Baptist, amirite?

Yes! Everything you say is right and I must be a Republican Baptist! This is my favorite game!

/Not a Protestant
//Not a Catholic, either!
///Not a Republican or even a conservative

Pre-judging is AMAAAAAZING!

You can be whatever you want to be online, Mormon, Scientologist, obese Inuit transvestite, etc. You're still an insufferable consev... err, insufferable libertarian.


I'm not a libertarian, either. What are you trying to accomplish by guessing, anyway? Do people need to fit into specific approved categories for you?
 
2014-04-27 06:02:28 PM  

Fissile: Sarcasm isn't any fun if you have to explain it. Jeez.


Well... somtimes ya gotta... elsewise, they ain't gonna learn nuthin'.

/spelling and grammar errors intentional
 
2014-04-27 06:03:20 PM  

Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: Wangiss: Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: Thunderpipes: Hahaha, stuck up biatch saying they are wrong for not "being tolerant of your lack of religion", yet she bashes them because of their religion. This is why liberals suck. Two standards for everything.

Just moved from VT to a rural VA town. People say prayers here at town meetings and school function. I think religion is dumb. But you know what? People here are 20 times as nice as they are in stuck up liberal VT. And contrary to what the moron Farkers say, they don't walk around the streets recruiting and preaching. Just better people than liberals.

And as we all know, strangers pretending to be nice to you is way more important than anything else.

/Lived in VT for a few years.  Would much rather deal with rude honest people than "nice" dishonest people.
//Also, if most of the people you dealt with in VT were rude to you, odds are it was because you were being a flaming douche-nozzle about something.  They're friendly enough people if you're being friendly, but they've got no patience for assholes.

How do you know what they truly think? Do you just not want to believe they're nice, or can you read minds?

Because I need someone for a market research project.

While I have not spent much time in VA, I have lived in rural Texas, and spent some time in fairly rural (and conservative) areas of Georgia and Florida.  Nearly every person I made acquaintances with in those places had a habit of being very nice and polite to just about anyone and everyone to their faces, then biatching about a number of them behind their backs.  It was like listening to high school girls.  "OMG, Skylar is such a farking slut.  I heard that she was caught behind the auditorium giving Jimmy-Wayne a....Oh, Hi Skylar!  You look fabulous today!  Did you color your hair?"

Conservatives get their undies in a wad over the idea of the "sneering liberal" because they would rather be lied to nicely than deal with blunt honesty.  To a conservative how something is presented is exponentially more important than what is being presented.  You can tell a conservative that they're a subhuman piece of shiat that's not worthy to lick the bottom of your shoes, and if you do it nicely they'll think you're a good person.  Tell them that you think they're a good person, but be rude about it, and they'll hate you for it.  Conservatives have the emotional maturity of a Labrador retriever.


No, that's a trait of shallow people and they live on every side of every fence. It wouldn't take but a moment to recall that behavior from individuals you don't like who happen to be in some group you do like. It's just easier to see if someone is already a foe in some sense or another. I've heard conservatives say this about liberals, too, and they were no less wrong to do so m
 
2014-04-27 06:07:15 PM  

zamboni: JoieD'Zen: Steve Zodiac: Not all, but most deeply religious people want to live with the social norms and accepted attitudes of the 1800's. And on the other side of the coin, the people of that community would say that the non-religious couples way of life was being forced upon them. Really the only answer for this couple is to move someplace less hostile.

Yep.

Yeah, and those uppity dark people should've moved to someplace less hostile.

I can't believe these atheist kids wanted to stop the good religious folk from praying in their churches and their homes and pretty much anywhere else they wanted to. It's really unreasonable to set aside about 30 hours a week out of 168 to learn useful things. Children can only pray in their own heads. No, I say... God, and I mean the Judeo-Christian God God of Abraham, as if there were any other, doesn't believe you unless you pray all the time, out loud, and proud. You hear me! All.The.Time!!!

/Yeah, I know.


Pedantic fix, but necessary. Muslims also worship Elohim; the Arabic cognate being Allah.
 
2014-04-27 06:13:46 PM  

JoieD'Zen: Steve Zodiac: Not all, but most deeply religious people want to live with the social norms and accepted attitudes of the 1800's. And on the other side of the coin, the people of that community would say that the non-religious couples way of life was being forced upon them. Really the only answer for this couple is to move someplace less hostile.

Yep.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rccD1EWenio

Hopefully this plays as they move on to the next southern town they're not wanted in.
 
2014-04-27 06:16:38 PM  

gaslight: Find a big municipal project that the whole town can get behind like an upgrade to the arena or something, and then wiccans to crowd fund it.


www.visitscotland.com
I like where this is going...
 
2014-04-27 06:18:32 PM  

Wangiss: No, that's a trait of shallow people and they live on every side of every fence. It wouldn't take but a moment to recall that behavior from individuals you don't like who happen to be in some group you do like. It's just easier to see if someone is already a foe in some sense or another. I've heard conservatives say this about liberals, too, and they were no less wrong to do so m


Except that if you look at what conservatives complain about with liberals, the majority of it boils down to "they're not nice!"  "Sneering", "smug", "elitist", biatching about how a liberal is not being "tolerant" if they're rude.  Even when a liberal is saying something they agree with, conservatives have a pissy fit about how the liberals are saying it.  Conservatives really are like dogs...the tone of what's being said is what they're paying attention to, not the content.  Spend some time reading comments on Brietbart, American Thinker, Conservapedia, or other conservative sites and you'll see that almost every time they biatch about something a liberal has said, there will be some mention of how it was said.  It's rarely, "liberal X said this and I don't agree with that" it's "sneering elitist liberal X haughtily said this while looking down from their ivory tower."

On the other hand, when liberals biatch about things that conservatives say, they're biatching about the content.  No liberals give a shiat how polite or rude Cliven Bundy was when he was telling everyone what he knew about "The Negro", or whether or not Todd Aiken was being nice in the way he talked about rape.  It's an easily observable phenomenon in the realm of political discussion, so I'm not sure why you're bothering to argue the point.
 
2014-04-27 06:27:16 PM  
Oh, okay. They're sub-human. Cool. Nice to know you're not everything they accuse you of.
 
2014-04-27 06:27:22 PM  

FizixJunkee: Can you imagine the existence of a Jew from L.A. living in Alabama?


My heart goes out to her.  I'm in Birmingham, but have developed a nice "blue bubble" of non-derp friends.  If your friend is anywhere near B-ham, tell your friend to look up the clubs on meetup.com, she'll find like-minded folks.
 
2014-04-27 06:27:50 PM  
Fake article is fake. They do not allow you to pray in schools in the south. Not in Wewahitchka, Florida. Not in Bear Creek, Alabama. Not in Crenshaw, Mississippi. Not in Eatonton, Georgia. Nowhere. The minute that somebody does, there is always somebody doing a Sam Kenison routine "ooooh, ooooh, oooooh" and calling the goddamned national news media, who immediately send some reporter down there to stir up some outrage. You have all seen these stories, so why would you believe this nonsense?

Some sh*tbird Slate writer dissed the south with a fake story and the Fark anti-south battalion is out in full force about how stupid the southerners are, and how terrible it is down here.

/Ain't stupid enough to fall for an obvious fake story like y'all though.
 
2014-04-27 06:29:09 PM  
"No, when I said black people are like dogs, I didn't mean..."

Are you entirely sure you're not just bigoted?
 
2014-04-27 06:29:48 PM  

Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: Wangiss: No, that's a trait of shallow people and they live on every side of every fence. It wouldn't take but a moment to recall that behavior from individuals you don't like who happen to be in some group you do like. It's just easier to see if someone is already a foe in some sense or another. I've heard conservatives say this about liberals, too, and they were no less wrong to do so m

Except that if you look at what conservatives complain about with liberals, the majority of it boils down to "they're not nice!"  "Sneering", "smug", "elitist", biatching about how a liberal is not being "tolerant" if they're rude.  Even when a liberal is saying something they agree with, conservatives have a pissy fit about how the liberals are saying it.  Conservatives really are like dogs...the tone of what's being said is what they're paying attention to, not the content.  Spend some time reading comments on Brietbart, American Thinker, Conservapedia, or other conservative sites and you'll see that almost every time they biatch about something a liberal has said, there will be some mention of how it was said.  It's rarely, "liberal X said this and I don't agree with that" it's "sneering elitist liberal X haughtily said this while looking down from their ivory tower."

On the other hand, when liberals biatch about things that conservatives say, they're biatching about the content.  No liberals give a shiat how polite or rude Cliven Bundy was when he was telling everyone what he knew about "The Negro", or whether or not Todd Aiken was being nice in the way he talked about rape.  It's an easily observable phenomenon in the realm of political discussion, so I'm not sure why you're bothering to argue the point.


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2014-04-27 06:35:11 PM  

Wangiss: Oh, okay. They're sub-human. Cool. Nice to know you're not everything they accuse you of.


Of course I'm everything they accuse me of...rude, irreverent, disrespectful of things and people they think I should worship.  The thing is, I don't pretend otherwise.  I don't lie about who and what I am and then act like that makes me morally superior.  Honesty is the moral choice, not politeness.

Wangiss: "No, when I said black people are like dogs, I didn't mean..."

Are you entirely sure you're not just bigoted?


Funny you would make the jump to race when no one has mentioned race previously in this thread.  Unless you think "conservative" is a race?
 
2014-04-27 06:35:35 PM  
Ask yourself, "How broad is my brush? If the answer is" 100,000,000 people" you may be painting too broadly.
 
2014-04-27 06:37:45 PM  

Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: Wangiss: Oh, okay. They're sub-human. Cool. Nice to know you're not everything they accuse you of.

Of course I'm everything they accuse me of...rude, irreverent, disrespectful of things and people they think I should worship.  The thing is, I don't pretend otherwise.  I don't lie about who and what I am and then act like that makes me morally superior.  Honesty is the moral choice, not politeness.

Wangiss: "No, when I said black people are like dogs, I didn't mean..."

Are you entirely sure you're not just bigoted?

Funny you would make the jump to race when no one has mentioned race previously in this thread.  Unless you think "conservative" is a race?


Bigotry isn't racism. Racism is just one form of Bigotry. It would seem you're too indoctrinated for this conversation. I'm going back to my house chores. Good evening.
 
2014-04-27 06:39:02 PM  

varmitydog: Fake article is fake. They do not allow you to pray in schools in the south. Not in Wewahitchka, Florida. Not in Bear Creek, Alabama. Not in Crenshaw, Mississippi. Not in Eatonton, Georgia. Nowhere. The minute that somebody does, there is always somebody doing a Sam Kenison routine "ooooh, ooooh, oooooh" and calling the goddamned national news media, who immediately send some reporter down there to stir up some outrage. You have all seen these stories, so why would you believe this nonsense?

Some sh*tbird Slate writer dissed the south with a fake story and the Fark anti-south battalion is out in full force about how stupid the southerners are, and how terrible it is down here.

/Ain't stupid enough to fall for an obvious fake story like y'all though.


I am 45 and did my last year of high school a at public school in Ocala, Florida, and not a prayer was said and I warn't the only Jew in these here parts.
 
2014-04-27 06:39:44 PM  

Thunderpipes: No, it is because liberals, like most people on this board as an example, are intolerant, smarmy crybabies who like fat chicks.


 Fat chicks are hot.  I didn't realize that was liberal/conservative thing.  But it fits.  I'll take it.
 
2014-04-27 06:40:05 PM  

Wangiss: Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: Wangiss: Oh, okay. They're sub-human. Cool. Nice to know you're not everything they accuse you of.

Of course I'm everything they accuse me of...rude, irreverent, disrespectful of things and people they think I should worship.  The thing is, I don't pretend otherwise.  I don't lie about who and what I am and then act like that makes me morally superior.  Honesty is the moral choice, not politeness.

Wangiss: "No, when I said black people are like dogs, I didn't mean..."

Are you entirely sure you're not just bigoted?

Funny you would make the jump to race when no one has mentioned race previously in this thread.  Unless you think "conservative" is a race?

Bigotry isn't racism. Racism is just one form of Bigotry. It would seem you're too indoctrinated for this conversation. I'm going back to my house chores. Good evening.


You are the first person in this entire thread to mention race.  Or did you mean something else by "black people"?
 
2014-04-27 06:44:55 PM  

rebelyell2006: Coco LaFemme: My boyfriend and I live in the South too, though not the deep South.  I'm an atheist, he's a Jew.  Well, he's mostly Jewish.  He keeps kosher and goes to synagogue on most high holy days, but aside from that, he's not too strict about it.  So we know a thing or two about being out of step with the rest of the population as far as religion goes.  Neither of us insist that everyone else behave in a way we find appropriate.  You live in a community, you have to exist within the community, and sometimes that means compromise.  If you want to take a stand though, be prepared to accept the consequences for that, especially if it comes in the form of everyone not liking you.

Indeed. Shut up and join the lynch mob like all of the other white people. Who cares if it is technically illegal, our community lynches blacks and you can love it or get the hell out.


^^^ Look everyone, an idiot!
 
2014-04-27 06:48:15 PM  

Ontos: rebelyell2006: Coco LaFemme: My boyfriend and I live in the South too, though not the deep South.  I'm an atheist, he's a Jew.  Well, he's mostly Jewish.  He keeps kosher and goes to synagogue on most high holy days, but aside from that, he's not too strict about it.  So we know a thing or two about being out of step with the rest of the population as far as religion goes.  Neither of us insist that everyone else behave in a way we find appropriate.  You live in a community, you have to exist within the community, and sometimes that means compromise.  If you want to take a stand though, be prepared to accept the consequences for that, especially if it comes in the form of everyone not liking you.

Indeed. Shut up and join the lynch mob like all of the other white people. Who cares if it is technically illegal, our community lynches blacks and you can love it or get the hell out.

^^^ Look everyone, an idiot!


What makes them an idiot, the hyperbole or the fact that they're completely right about how stupid it is do suggest that allowing illegal activity to continue just to "fit in"is probably not a good idea?
 
2014-04-27 06:50:15 PM  

Repo Man: Hey, remember Damon Fowler?

Damon Fowler, an atheist student at Bastrop High School in Louisiana, was about to graduate. His public school was planning to have a prayer as part of the graduation ceremony: as they traditionally did, as so many public schools around the country do every year. But Fowler -- knowing that government-sponsored prayer in the public schools is unconstitutional and legally forbidden -- contacted the school superintendent to let him know that he opposed the prayer, and would be contacting the ACLU if it happened. The school -- at first, anyway -- agreed, and canceled the prayer...

...Fowler has been hounded, pilloried, and ostracized by his community. He's become the center of what he terms a "shiatstorm": he has been harassed, vilified, targeted with insults and name-calling and hateful remarks. He's been told t he's the Devil. He's been told, "Go cry to your mommy... oh, wait. You can't." (A reference to him being disowned by his parents.) He's been told that he's only doing this to get attention. A student's public prayer at a pre-graduation "Class Night" event was turned into an opportunity for the school and community to gang up on Fowler and publicly close ranks against him -- teachers as well as students. (Here's video). And people seen defending him have been targeted as well.


So... An attention whore got attention and is pissed about it now.  Huh.
 
2014-04-27 06:51:55 PM  

Ontos: rebelyell2006: Coco LaFemme: My boyfriend and I live in the South too, though not the deep South.  I'm an atheist, he's a Jew.  Well, he's mostly Jewish.  He keeps kosher and goes to synagogue on most high holy days, but aside from that, he's not too strict about it.  So we know a thing or two about being out of step with the rest of the population as far as religion goes.  Neither of us insist that everyone else behave in a way we find appropriate.  You live in a community, you have to exist within the community, and sometimes that means compromise.  If you want to take a stand though, be prepared to accept the consequences for that, especially if it comes in the form of everyone not liking you.

Indeed. Shut up and join the lynch mob like all of the other white people. Who cares if it is technically illegal, our community lynches blacks and you can love it or get the hell out.

^^^ Look everyone, an idiot!


gameinformer.com
 
2014-04-27 06:52:48 PM  

Ontos: An attention whore got attention and is pissed about it now


Or an American who is patriotic complained about the school acting unconstitutionally

Same thing, I 'spose
 
2014-04-27 06:58:43 PM  

Ontos: Repo Man: Hey, remember Damon Fowler?

Damon Fowler, an atheist student at Bastrop High School in Louisiana, was about to graduate. His public school was planning to have a prayer as part of the graduation ceremony: as they traditionally did, as so many public schools around the country do every year. But Fowler -- knowing that government-sponsored prayer in the public schools is unconstitutional and legally forbidden -- contacted the school superintendent to let him know that he opposed the prayer, and would be contacting the ACLU if it happened. The school -- at first, anyway -- agreed, and canceled the prayer...

...Fowler has been hounded, pilloried, and ostracized by his community. He's become the center of what he terms a "shiatstorm": he has been harassed, vilified, targeted with insults and name-calling and hateful remarks. He's been told t he's the Devil. He's been told, "Go cry to your mommy... oh, wait. You can't." (A reference to him being disowned by his parents.) He's been told that he's only doing this to get attention. A student's public prayer at a pre-graduation "Class Night" event was turned into an opportunity for the school and community to gang up on Fowler and publicly close ranks against him -- teachers as well as students. (Here's video). And people seen defending him have been targeted as well.

So... An attention whore got attention and is pissed about it now.  Huh.




Please DIAF.
 
2014-04-27 07:07:19 PM  
F*ck these morons. You just raised the collective IQ of your community by a few points, and they should be grateful.
 
2014-04-27 07:48:26 PM  

Coco LaFemme: My boyfriend and I live in the South too, though not the deep South.  I'm an atheist, he's a Jew.  Well, he's mostly Jewish.  He keeps kosher and goes to synagogue on most high holy days, but aside from that, he's not too strict about it.  So we know a thing or two about being out of step with the rest of the population as far as religion goes.  Neither of us insist that everyone else behave in a way we find appropriate.  You live in a community, you have to exist within the community, and sometimes that means compromise.  If you want to take a stand though, be prepared to accept the consequences for that, especially if it comes in the form of everyone not liking you.


That. Do research before moving, not move and expect everyone to adapt.

Also, the Paddington bear story (last question on page two) tugged at the heartstrings. I would've stolen the bear back when no one was looking, like that biatch cousin did in the first place. >:(
 
2014-04-27 07:49:18 PM  

Coco LaFemme: You live in a community, you have to exist within the community, and sometimes that means compromise.


So when is compromising with stupid ever acceptable? And this is what I mean:
Worshipping your deity as you see fit without social stigma is not stupid.
Insisting that there be a social stigma attached because you pray to another deity or none at all is stupid.

The problem here is that this person is insisting that there not be prayers conducted by city/county (government) employees in a public school with a captive audience, and the local yokels are choosing to ostracize them for dragging them kicking and screaming into the second half of the twentieth century.

Don't these people realize that there are other faiths besides theirs? How would they react if the state approved their activities (prayer), but insisted that all faiths be represented in prayer? Would they have issue with the Muslim call to prayer and dress codes, or observing the Jewish Shabbat on Friday afternoon, or maybe the lunchtime fish sandwiches for Catholics at the end of the week?

These folks down yonder need to wake up and realize they live on a planet with 7 billion other people and a nation with 300+ million other citizens, and not all them ascribe to their particular flavor of god. This is precisely why government institutions - which must serve ALL those people equally - including public schools, usually stay away from officially promoting any religion or religious activities. There's even a little something about this issue in the US Constitution... the people who wrote that document knew way back then that mixing government and religion was a bad idea for both.
 
2014-04-27 07:59:27 PM  
rewind2846: ...or maybe the lunchtime fish sandwiches for Catholics at the end of the week?

My public elementary school always served fish to everyone on Fridays.

Admittedly, that was in the late 70s, early 80s...
 
2014-04-27 08:06:58 PM  
How dare these people stand up for the Constitution? Everyone knows an elementary school teacher outranks the Bill of Rights! That's why Mrs Turner in third grade quartered troops in my home.
 
2014-04-27 08:13:12 PM  

flucto: The Prudie stuff has always been fake, but wow.


I knew someone was going to say this before I even clicked into the thread. Why do so many farkers like to dismiss all Prudie submissions as fake? No doubt there's a few fake submissions every here and there, but most sound plausible. You're like kids shouting "fake" at real videos on youtube.
 
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