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(Slate)   "Dear Prudence, we're from the deep south and we complained because our child's teacher forced prayer on the classroom, and we got it to stop. Now, everyone in town hates us. What should we do?"   (slate.com) divider line 186
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2014-04-27 10:03:21 AM  
Fertilizer, Torco RC Nitro Methane and a few Ryder trucks.  Costs a few bucks up front, but it will take care of your problem.
 
2014-04-27 10:09:55 AM  
Our child reported the praying stopped immediately with no explanation. My husband and I think the teacher should have told the students why she shouldn't have led them in prayer. He wants to press this issue, while I feel as long as we let our child know what's right and wrong, we should let this go and accept this is part of where we live. Our child will be in this school for several more years. We did tell a few acquaintances about this and they said "people like us" were ruining the community of faith. Sometimes, I feel like I'm being a coward not standing up for religious tolerance.

We got what we wanted and so far nothing else has happened.  What do we do?!
 
2014-04-27 10:14:35 AM  
Actually, I agree with Prudy's advice but if this were me, Id have a hard time putting up with the very religious.
 
2014-04-27 10:37:56 AM  
Not all, but most deeply religious people want to live with the social norms and accepted attitudes of the 1800's. And on the other side of the coin, the people of that community would say that the non-religious couples way of life was being forced upon them. Really the only answer for this couple is to move someplace less hostile.
 
2014-04-27 10:53:08 AM  
The Prudie stuff has always been fake, but wow.
 
2014-04-27 10:56:29 AM  
Didn't we already discuss this column, or was that in a red light thread?

Anyway the thing I can't believe in this column is that there aren't any sexual deviants or just plain wierdo's listed in it.
 
2014-04-27 11:12:21 AM  
There are still schools forcing prayer? Jezus.
 
2014-04-27 11:13:37 AM  

Steve Zodiac: Not all, but most deeply religious people want to live with the social norms and accepted attitudes of the 1800's. And on the other side of the coin, the people of that community would say that the non-religious couples way of life was being forced upon them. Really the only answer for this couple is to move someplace less hostile.


Yep.
 
2014-04-27 11:16:36 AM  

BizarreMan: Didn't we already discuss this column, or was that in a red light thread?


That one was redlit.

flucto: The Prudie stuff has always been fake, but wow.


I consider it to be the major leagues of AnonDIT.
 
2014-04-27 11:18:43 AM  

Shostie: I consider it to be the major leagues of AnonDIT.


Keep training man. You'll get the call up soon I KNOW IT
 
2014-04-27 11:31:38 AM  

JoieD'Zen: Steve Zodiac: Not all, but most deeply religious people want to live with the social norms and accepted attitudes of the 1800's. And on the other side of the coin, the people of that community would say that the non-religious couples way of life was being forced upon them. Really the only answer for this couple is to move someplace less hostile.

Yep.


Yeah, and those uppity dark people should've moved to someplace less hostile.

I can't believe these atheist kids wanted to stop the good religious folk from praying in their churches and their homes and pretty much anywhere else they wanted to. It's really unreasonable to set aside about 30 hours a week out of 168 to learn useful things. Children can only pray in their own heads. No, I say... God, and I mean the Judeo-Christian God, as if there were any other, doesn't believe you unless you pray all the time, out loud, and proud. You hear me! All.The.Time!!!

/Yeah, I know.
 
2014-04-27 11:50:44 AM  

K3rmy: Fertilizer, Torco RC Nitro Methane and a few Ryder trucks.  Costs a few bucks up front, but it will take care of your problem.


Making soap can solve a lot of problems. Might be a little bit extreme, but problem solved.

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2014-04-27 11:51:26 AM  
You should move to a civilized state
 
2014-04-27 11:58:28 AM  
That was a dick move to press the issue after it had been resolved.
 
2014-04-27 12:21:57 PM  

make me some tea: That was a dick move to press the issue after it had been resolved.


Yes it is.  Which is why she didn't want to

 He wants to press this issue, while I feel as long as we let our child know what's right and wrong, we should let this go and accept this is part of where we live.

So, the husband wanted to press the issue, the letter writer did not.

All this assumes that these letters aren't made up by "Prudie"
 
2014-04-27 12:26:18 PM  

make me some tea: That was a dick move to press the issue after it had been resolved.


They haven't yet, but that's in keeping with the mentality of some atheists.  They aren't comfortable unless all attention is on them, all the time.  It's like they're mentally ill.
 
2014-04-27 12:28:37 PM  

zamboni: JoieD'Zen: Steve Zodiac: Not all, but most deeply religious people want to live with the social norms and accepted attitudes of the 1800's. And on the other side of the coin, the people of that community would say that the non-religious couples way of life was being forced upon them. Really the only answer for this couple is to move someplace less hostile.

Yep.

Yeah, and those uppity dark people should've moved to someplace less hostile.

I can't believe these atheist kids wanted to stop the good religious folk from praying in their churches and their homes and pretty much anywhere else they wanted to. It's really unreasonable to set aside about 30 hours a week out of 168 to learn useful things. Children can only pray in their own heads. No, I say... God, and I mean the Judeo-Christian God, as if there were any other, doesn't believe you unless you pray all the time, out loud, and proud. You hear me! All.The.Time!!!

/Yeah, I know.


this
 
2014-04-27 12:55:43 PM  
Prudence was correct in how she answered the issue.

Beating a dead horse won't make it go faster, dude.
 
2014-04-27 01:04:32 PM  
Anyone want to join me on prayer that they find peace?
 
2014-04-27 01:33:43 PM  
If they were smart (and this were a real situation), they should have said their child was Muslim, and pressed for a Muslim prayer to be added to the morning school ritual.

That would have fixed things just as well, and they wouldn't have come off like ZOMG DEY BANNDED PRAYER!
 
2014-04-27 02:18:51 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: If they were smart (and this were a real situation), they should have said their child was Muslim, and pressed for a Muslim prayer to be added to the morning school ritual.

That would have fixed things just as well, and they wouldn't have come off like ZOMG DEY BANNDED PRAYER!


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2014-04-27 02:23:13 PM  
"dear prudence, i don't think i like you anymore... you used to watch me shave, now all you do is stare at the floor..."
 
2014-04-27 02:30:00 PM  
Leave hicksville and flee for civilization.
 
2014-04-27 02:30:35 PM  
But if the kids can't pray in school, where on earth can they possibly go to pray?
 
2014-04-27 02:30:40 PM  
Firebomb the town. Problem solved (and not just for your family).
 
2014-04-27 02:30:59 PM  
"ZOMG!  We publicly took a really unpopular position that we knew would piss off all the locals and now we're unpopular and the locals are pissed off!!  What can we do?  Who could have ever seen this coming?"
 
2014-04-27 02:33:23 PM  

AirForceVet: Prudence was correct in how she answered the issue.

Beating a dead horse won't make it go faster, dude.


Then you clearly have to hit it harder. I've played enough Left 4 Dead to know that zombies can move when they want to.
 
2014-04-27 02:36:17 PM  
Eh...there's a Monday morning prayer meeting for teachers where I interned. I freaking loved it because it meant the copy room was free.
 
2014-04-27 02:39:52 PM  
My boyfriend and I live in the South too, though not the deep South.  I'm an atheist, he's a Jew.  Well, he's mostly Jewish.  He keeps kosher and goes to synagogue on most high holy days, but aside from that, he's not too strict about it.  So we know a thing or two about being out of step with the rest of the population as far as religion goes.  Neither of us insist that everyone else behave in a way we find appropriate.  You live in a community, you have to exist within the community, and sometimes that means compromise.  If you want to take a stand though, be prepared to accept the consequences for that, especially if it comes in the form of everyone not liking you.
 
2014-04-27 02:40:09 PM  
Like most of what gets submitted to Prudence, I'm gonna call fake.

While kids say the darndest things, I call shenanigans on "I thought I was being a good American"
 
2014-04-27 02:40:59 PM  
Dear Liberal Douchebag

Move
 
2014-04-27 02:41:48 PM  
Dear Prudence,

How can I make money off an MFA?
 
2014-04-27 02:43:09 PM  
i.imgur.com

Because what's the point of winning if people don't know you've won?

Where's the curtain calls?  Where's the bowing?  Where's the NOTERIETY?  Yes, you've won, but you need to TELL people you've won.

This is why looters and bank robbers go on Facebook, pose with their loot  and say "Yo look at dis!"
 
2014-04-27 02:44:12 PM  
Kill yourself
 
2014-04-27 02:45:21 PM  

Coco LaFemme: My boyfriend and I live in the South too, though not the deep South.  I'm an atheist, he's a Jew.  Well, he's mostly Jewish.  He keeps kosher and goes to synagogue on most high holy days, but aside from that, he's not too strict about it.  So we know a thing or two about being out of step with the rest of the population as far as religion goes.  Neither of us insist that everyone else behave in a way we find appropriate.  You live in a community, you have to exist within the community, and sometimes that means compromise.  If you want to take a stand though, be prepared to accept the consequences for that, especially if it comes in the form of everyone not liking you.


Indeed. Shut up and join the lynch mob like all of the other white people. Who cares if it is technically illegal, our community lynches blacks and you can love it or get the hell out.
 
2014-04-27 02:48:24 PM  
i.imgur.com
I threw a $10!
See that $10?  *I* threw that.
 
2014-04-27 02:53:26 PM  
Who are these backwards farks?
For Christsakes, we never prayed in school back in the 60's!
 
2014-04-27 02:57:59 PM  
Poor kid. Once she's made as the designated Heathen, she's Bully-Bait.

Maybe she should transfer to a "Historically Black" college...
 
2014-04-27 02:58:52 PM  

loki see loki do: Who are these backwards farks?
For Christsakes, we never prayed in school back in the 60's!


I know, though I do remember getting some flak in high school/college age for bowing my head, closing my eyes and saying a 5-second prayer in my head, over my lunch.

I know religious people can be pushy, just like basically anyone else.

If this isn't made up, then they threw away whatever positive karma they gained for reminding people that prayer doesn't belong in non-religious classrooms when they wrote to and advice column going "waah, now nobody likes us!!"

Adapt to your current situation, make what friends you can in that community, stick it out to let some of the fallout blow over or just farking MOVE.
 
2014-04-27 02:58:58 PM  

Coco LaFemme: My boyfriend and I live in the South too, though not the deep South.  I'm an atheist, he's a Jew.  Well, he's mostly Jewish.  He keeps kosher and goes to synagogue on most high holy days, but aside from that, he's not too strict about it.  So we know a thing or two about being out of step with the rest of the population as far as religion goes.  Neither of us insist that everyone else behave in a way we find appropriate.  You live in a community, you have to exist within the community, and sometimes that means compromise.  If you want to take a stand though, be prepared to accept the consequences for that, especially if it comes in the form of everyone not liking you.


^^^^^^THIS^^^^
 
2014-04-27 03:00:46 PM  
Don't stop there.  Start walking around with your dick hanging out of your pants.   Whenever you see one of the people who hates you, stop and do windmills.  Offer them souvenir photos.
 
2014-04-27 03:01:31 PM  

Lsherm: make me some tea: That was a dick move to press the issue after it had been resolved.

They haven't yet, but that's in keeping with the mentality of some atheists.  They aren't comfortable unless all attention is on them, all the time.  It's like they're mentally ill.


I'm an atheist and I'm sick of the more vocal ones.

I live in Georgia and I couldn't care less if people pray. Some organizations I'm in hold a prayer before meetings and other events and it doesn't bother me a bit. I stand with them and remain silent while still being respectful of their faith.

Which is all I ask of them to do concerning my utter lack of religious faith. And for the most part I get exactly that.

Once in a while I get the "don't worry, sometime you'll find the Truth" and I nod and smile. I understand they believe in the whole "being saved" deal and they're actually wishing me well.
 
2014-04-27 03:01:48 PM  

rebelyell2006: Coco LaFemme: My boyfriend and I live in the South too, though not the deep South.  I'm an atheist, he's a Jew.  Well, he's mostly Jewish.  He keeps kosher and goes to synagogue on most high holy days, but aside from that, he's not too strict about it.  So we know a thing or two about being out of step with the rest of the population as far as religion goes.  Neither of us insist that everyone else behave in a way we find appropriate.  You live in a community, you have to exist within the community, and sometimes that means compromise.  If you want to take a stand though, be prepared to accept the consequences for that, especially if it comes in the form of everyone not liking you.

Indeed. Shut up and join the lynch mob like all of the other white people. Who cares if it is technically illegal, our community lynches blacks and you can love it or get the hell out.


tommcfarlin.com
 
2014-04-27 03:03:06 PM  
Move.
 
2014-04-27 03:03:52 PM  

rebelyell2006: Coco LaFemme: My boyfriend and I live in the South too, though not the deep South.  I'm an atheist, he's a Jew.  Well, he's mostly Jewish.  He keeps kosher and goes to synagogue on most high holy days, but aside from that, he's not too strict about it.  So we know a thing or two about being out of step with the rest of the population as far as religion goes.  Neither of us insist that everyone else behave in a way we find appropriate.  You live in a community, you have to exist within the community, and sometimes that means compromise.  If you want to take a stand though, be prepared to accept the consequences for that, especially if it comes in the form of everyone not liking you.

Indeed. Shut up and join the lynch mob like all of the other white people. Who cares if it is technically illegal, our community lynches blacks and you can love it or get the hell out.


?????

I find it vaguely interesting that your mind went there first, especially for no reason.  If you feel strongly that prayer should not be in school, and you argue to have it removed, you have to do so with the understanding that people aren't going to like you for it.  It makes absolutely no sense to get pissed off about it, because you had to see it coming.  My comment about compromise had to do with the idea that if you remind your child that other people praying doesn't affect them in any way, shape, form, or size, and it can't hurt them, what's the problem with letting them do it?  Praying is not illegal, unlike your retarded example of lynching people, which is.

Put the crack pipe down, Sparkles.
 
2014-04-27 03:06:22 PM  
Run from your problems.  Works for most farkers.
 
2014-04-27 03:10:26 PM  

Coco LaFemme: rebelyell2006: Coco LaFemme: My boyfriend and I live in the South too, though not the deep South.  I'm an atheist, he's a Jew.  Well, he's mostly Jewish.  He keeps kosher and goes to synagogue on most high holy days, but aside from that, he's not too strict about it.  So we know a thing or two about being out of step with the rest of the population as far as religion goes.  Neither of us insist that everyone else behave in a way we find appropriate.  You live in a community, you have to exist within the community, and sometimes that means compromise.  If you want to take a stand though, be prepared to accept the consequences for that, especially if it comes in the form of everyone not liking you.

Indeed. Shut up and join the lynch mob like all of the other white people. Who cares if it is technically illegal, our community lynches blacks and you can love it or get the hell out.

?????

I find it vaguely interesting that your mind went there first, especially for no reason.  If you feel strongly that prayer should not be in school, and you argue to have it removed, you have to do so with the understanding that people aren't going to like you for it.  It makes absolutely no sense to get pissed off about it, because you had to see it coming.  My comment about compromise had to do with the idea that if you remind your child that other people praying doesn't affect them in any way, shape, form, or size, and it can't hurt them, what's the problem with letting them do it?  Praying is not illegal, unlike your retarded example of lynching people, which is.

Put the crack pipe down, Sparkles.


Forcing kids to pray in a public school is illegal.
 
2014-04-27 03:12:33 PM  

dantheman195: Dear Liberal Douchebag

Move


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2014-04-27 03:13:04 PM  
Why anybody with any brains at all would move to the Deep South when there are any other choices at all is beyond me.

You know, such as the Congo, where people are much more civilized and enlightened.
 
2014-04-27 03:15:07 PM  

Coco LaFemme: rebelyell2006: Coco LaFemme: My boyfriend and I live in the South too, though not the deep South.  I'm an atheist, he's a Jew.  Well, he's mostly Jewish.  He keeps kosher and goes to synagogue on most high holy days, but aside from that, he's not too strict about it.  So we know a thing or two about being out of step with the rest of the population as far as religion goes.  Neither of us insist that everyone else behave in a way we find appropriate.  You live in a community, you have to exist within the community, and sometimes that means compromise.  If you want to take a stand though, be prepared to accept the consequences for that, especially if it comes in the form of everyone not liking you.

Indeed. Shut up and join the lynch mob like all of the other white people. Who cares if it is technically illegal, our community lynches blacks and you can love it or get the hell out.

?????

I find it vaguely interesting that your mind went there first, especially for no reason.  If you feel strongly that prayer should not be in school, and you argue to have it removed, you have to do so with the understanding that people aren't going to like you for it.  It makes absolutely no sense to get pissed off about it, because you had to see it coming.  My comment about compromise had to do with the idea that if you remind your child that other people praying doesn't affect them in any way, shape, form, or size, and it can't hurt them, what's the problem with letting them do it?  Praying is not illegal, unlike your retarded example of lynching people, which is.

Put the crack pipe down, Sparkles.


A teacher leading prayer is illegal, which is what happened in the article.  Students, like people praying at lunch or whatever, can pray as much as they like.  The reason teacher led prayer is illegal is because of their role in the school.  While the reply was rather extreme, the challenge to that community's status quo was merited in that situation.  A teacher has a position of power over the students, teacher led prayer is not on par with individual prayer.
 
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