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2014-04-27 07:22:50 AM
Fargo is possibly my favorite movie ever unless I'm in a Jaws mood, but this show has completely won me over. It's the show I'd die to binge-watch if I could binge-watch it.

They did it. They pulled it off. I was arguing with some guy on Facebook a couple of nights ago about the relative likability of Jerry Lundegaard vs. Lester Nygaard and we both completely were 100% disagreed. (By the way, he says Lester is more likable than Jerry. I find this argument ridiculous).

But we could have that argument. And it wasn't dumb. They really did make a new show worthy of the Fargo name.

Can't wait for the next one. I aspire to Billy Bob's mischief. That's how you troll.
 
2014-04-27 07:41:23 AM

Confabulat: Fargo is possibly my favorite movie ever unless I'm in a Jaws mood, but this show has completely won me over. It's the show I'd die to binge-watch if I could binge-watch it.

They did it. They pulled it off. I was arguing with some guy on Facebook a couple of nights ago about the relative likability of Jerry Lundegaard vs. Lester Nygaard and we both completely were 100% disagreed. (By the way, he says Lester is more likable than Jerry. I find this argument ridiculous).

But we could have that argument. And it wasn't dumb. They really did make a new show worthy of the Fargo name.

Can't wait for the next one. I aspire to Billy Bob's mischief. That's how you troll.


Well said. I'm loving what they are doing with Billy Bob and how they are messing with our heads about Lester. Great writing!
 
2014-04-27 07:48:42 AM
I... why does this show exist?  Was there actually someone somewhere that... wanted this to be a thing?  Because that sounds incredibly unlikely.

Nice of the production company that sponsored the link to provide an opening post to go with it, though.  Very convenient and practical way to let us all know it's an advertisement.
 
2014-04-27 08:00:31 AM

Jim_Callahan: I... why does this show exist?  Was there actually someone somewhere that... wanted this to be a thing?  Because that sounds incredibly unlikely.

Nice of the production company that sponsored the link to provide an opening post to go with it, though.  Very convenient and practical way to let us all know it's an advertisement.


The Coen Brothers endorse it and are credited as executive producers (though really they had nothing to do with it).

It's been incredibly well-received.

And for myself, I can quote Fargo in my sleep. It is one of those movies that in a way make up my soul. I was as skeptical as anyone.

They got it right. I don't work for FX.
 
2014-04-27 08:01:59 AM

Jim_Callahan: I... why does this show exist?  Was there actually someone somewhere that... wanted this to be a thing?  Because that sounds incredibly unlikely.

Nice of the production company that sponsored the link to provide an opening post to go with it, though.  Very convenient and practical way to let us all know it's an advertisement.


Oh and I submitted this, and last I checked, no one is paying me. I just love Fargo and I love this show.

So cynic away and find your angry conspiracies, doncha know.
 
2014-04-27 08:05:50 AM

Jim_Callahan: I... why does this show exist?  Was there actually someone somewhere that... wanted this to be a thing?  Because that sounds incredibly unlikely.

Nice of the production company that sponsored the link to provide an opening post to go with it, though.  Very convenient and practical way to let us all know it's an advertisement.


Don't knock it until you watch it. It's got the TONE of "Fargo" but it's its own show. The acting is spectacular and the writing is downright well-done. It might not have been needed per se, but its still a worthy show in its own right even without ties to the movie.
 
2014-04-27 08:12:35 AM

Jim_Callahan: I... why does this show exist?  Was there actually someone somewhere that... wanted this to be a thing?  Because that sounds incredibly unlikely.

Nice of the production company that sponsored the link to provide an opening post to go with it, though.  Very convenient and practical way to let us all know it's an advertisement.


I'm going to run with your conspiracy stuff now. Every time I post anything I'm going to pretend I'm getting rich off it.

Cause that's how you think it works right? Do you ever wonder what happens to a corpse in springtime if you auger a hole in the middle of a frozen lake in the winter and dump it in then? I do.

That's why I submit links like this. You figured it was about money, eh? Well lots of things are about money, doncha know.
 
2014-04-27 08:35:43 AM
I gave it a shot and then part way through episode 2 I was concluding it was a 5-times longer Fargo with less interesting characters. Then these two guys show up. Well alright then, I'll hang out a tad longer.
 
2014-04-27 09:05:43 AM
Am I right in thinking this is a one-season and done show?  Or are there any plans to extend it indefinitely like Under the Dome or Bates Motel?
 
2014-04-27 09:10:51 AM

NeoCortex42: Am I right in thinking this is a one-season and done show?  Or are there any plans to extend it indefinitely like Under the Dome or Bates Motel?


It's a one and done. They can't even do a True Detective with with this one.
 
2014-04-27 09:16:25 AM

Confabulat: NeoCortex42: Am I right in thinking this is a one-season and done show?  Or are there any plans to extend it indefinitely like Under the Dome or Bates Motel?

It's a one and done. They can't even do a True Detective with with this one.


That's good to hear.  I'm glad of this increasing trend of shows willing to tell their story and quit while they're ahead.
 
2014-04-27 09:46:21 AM

NeoCortex42: Am I right in thinking this is a one-season and done show?  Or are there any plans to extend it indefinitely like Under the Dome or Bates Motel?


speaking of "Bates", I think it's actually getting BETTER, but shouldn't let it go longer than another season or so. Any thoughts?

/sorry for thread jacking
 
2014-04-27 09:54:16 AM

mafiageek1980: Well said. I'm loving what they are doing with Billy Bob and how they are messing with our heads about Lester. Great writing!


He's a great character.  He's like a redneck Mephistopheles.
 
2014-04-27 09:54:34 AM

mafiageek1980: NeoCortex42: Am I right in thinking this is a one-season and done show?  Or are there any plans to extend it indefinitely like Under the Dome or Bates Motel?

speaking of "Bates", I think it's actually getting BETTER, but shouldn't let it go longer than another season or so. Any thoughts?

/sorry for thread jacking


I need to pick back up on that show, I only half way watched some of it last year and none this one. I hadn't decided how much I liked it. I should give it a shot.

"Hannibal" has taught me that old dogs do have new tricks sometimes.
 
2014-04-27 09:57:07 AM

NeoCortex42: Confabulat: NeoCortex42: Am I right in thinking this is a one-season and done show?  Or are there any plans to extend it indefinitely like Under the Dome or Bates Motel?

It's a one and done. They can't even do a True Detective with with this one.

That's good to hear.  I'm glad of this increasing trend of shows willing to tell their story and quit while they're ahead.


In theory they could do another season with a completely new set of characters, which based on what I've seen so far wouldn't be a bad thing.
 
2014-04-27 10:01:39 AM
so
 TFA...not so much "decoding" as  acknowledging the painfully obvious. thanks for the farking tease.
 
2014-04-27 10:07:58 AM

Confabulat: NeoCortex42: Am I right in thinking this is a one-season and done show?  Or are there any plans to extend it indefinitely like Under the Dome or Bates Motel?

It's a one and done. They can't even do a True Detective with with this one.


how do you know? And why do you think they can't do a TD? there's lots of small towns in mn and nd.
 
2014-04-27 10:13:45 AM

Geoff Peterson: how do you know? And why do you think they can't do a TD? there's lots of small towns in mn and nd.


Oh they can try.

How much patience will you have with a third attempt? About as much as everyone else. This one works in a parallel universe sort of way.

How well do you think a third version would work?
 
2014-04-27 10:36:48 AM

mafiageek1980: NeoCortex42: Am I right in thinking this is a one-season and done show?  Or are there any plans to extend it indefinitely like Under the Dome or Bates Motel?

speaking of "Bates", I think it's actually getting BETTER, but shouldn't let it go longer than another season or so. Any thoughts?

/sorry for thread jacking


I'm liking Bates Motel.  I agree that it shouldn't go on indefinitely, though.  With the way things are coming to a head between Norman and his mother, I wouldn't mind ending next season or so with where Norman is at the start of Psycho.  Maybe have a final season that essentially tells the story of the first film, ending with him finally locked up.

I see that Bates Motel: After Hours is back for the finale.  I'm sure everyone was begging for that to return.
 
2014-04-27 10:38:59 AM
The show says it's based on true events from 2006.

The movie came out in 1995.

Whats the deal?

They may just be completely separate stories.  With hitmen.  And financially troubled leads that desperately try to sell trucoat/life insurance.  And female supercops.
 
2014-04-27 10:44:57 AM

Wasabi and Soy Sauce: The show says it's based on true events from 2006.

The movie came out in 1995.

Whats the deal?

They may just be completely separate stories.  With hitmen.  And financially troubled leads that desperately try to sell trucoat/life insurance.  And female supercops.


That's exactly what it is.

And the "true story" bit is a joke. It was in the movie too.
 
2014-04-27 10:45:45 AM

mafiageek1980: Jim_Callahan: I... why does this show exist?  Was there actually someone somewhere that... wanted this to be a thing?  Because that sounds incredibly unlikely.

Nice of the production company that sponsored the link to provide an opening post to go with it, though.  Very convenient and practical way to let us all know it's an advertisement.

Don't knock it until you watch it. It's got the TONE of "Fargo" but it's its own show. The acting is spectacular and the writing is downright well-done. It might not have been needed per se, but its still a worthy show in its own right even without ties to the movie.


For me, I think this has been why I just can't get into it. The show itself is indeed faultless, but I don't really get anything from it that I couldn't get from just recalling the film. Personally I'd rather have seen that writing / acting talent used on something original.
 
2014-04-27 10:45:51 AM

Wasabi and Soy Sauce: The show says it's based on true events from 2006.

The movie came out in 1995.

Whats the deal?

They may just be completely separate stories.  With hitmen.  And financially troubled leads that desperately try to sell trucoat/life insurance.  And female supercops.


Am I going to have to break the news to you that Texas Chainsaw Massacre and Blair Witch Project were fiction too?
 
2014-04-27 10:46:18 AM

mafiageek1980: Don't knock it until you watch it. It's got the TONE of "Fargo" but it's its own show.


Welcome to the Grammar Nazi Hall of Fame, son.
 
2014-04-27 10:46:41 AM

The Numbers: The show itself is indeed faultless, but I don't really get anything from it that I couldn't get from just recalling the film.


How would you know? They've only aired 2 hours out of 10.
 
2014-04-27 10:50:55 AM
The Numbers:For me, I think this has been why I just can't get into it. The show itself is indeed faultless, but I don't really get anything from it that I couldn't get from just recalling the film. Personally I'd rather have seen that writing / acting talent used on something original.

There is nothing like Lorne Malvo in the movie. As one reviewer said, he's a "sh*t-stirrer of a very high caliber."
 
2014-04-27 10:53:38 AM
To me, as a Fargo fanatic, having more Fargo-esque stuff of super-high quality is like candy. Now David Lynch needs to feed me more pie.
 
2014-04-27 10:56:15 AM
I am another hooked on this show and, yes, I didn't think they could pull it off but they have in spectacular fashion.

NeoCortex42:

I'm liking Bates Motel.  I agree that it shouldn't go on indefinitely, though.  With the way things are coming to a head between Norman and his mother, I wouldn't mind ending next season or so with where Norman is at the start of Psycho.  Maybe have a final season that essentially tells the story of the first film, ending with him finally locked up.
.

Also a fan of bates Motel and expect them to end it in another 1-2 seasons. I agree with you that one more season to get Norman to the start of Psycho and one more essentially following, but embellishing on, the narrative of the movie will be perfect.
I only have my DVR set for 4 shows. These two, Mad Men, and Orphan Black
 
2014-04-27 10:57:35 AM

Speaker2Animals: The Numbers:For me, I think this has been why I just can't get into it. The show itself is indeed faultless, but I don't really get anything from it that I couldn't get from just recalling the film. Personally I'd rather have seen that writing / acting talent used on something original.

There is nothing like Lorne Malvo in the movie. As one reviewer said, he's a "sh*t-stirrer of a very high caliber."


Loved when he set the Hess brothers against each other just for the fun of it.
 
2014-04-27 11:04:22 AM

Confabulat: To me, as a Fargo fanatic, having more Fargo-esque stuff of super-high quality is like candy. Now David Lynch needs to feed me more pie.


Yeah.  Sadly I think Mr. Lynch has shot his wad, so to speak.
 
2014-04-27 11:06:04 AM

Speaker2Animals: mafiageek1980: Don't knock it until you watch it. It's got the TONE of "Fargo" but it's its own show.

Welcome to the Grammar Nazi Hall of Fame, son.


I'm a comm major out of Louisiana, not an English Major, lol. We aren't the smartest cats out there but we have big mouths ;)
 
2014-04-27 11:17:41 AM

aiiee: Confabulat: To me, as a Fargo fanatic, having more Fargo-esque stuff of super-high quality is like candy. Now David Lynch needs to feed me more pie.


Yeah.  Sadly I think Mr. Lynch has shot his wad, so to speak.


Yeah Lynch does not seem to be interested in making movies or TV now either and is just enjoying being David Lynch. Lynch and Frost seem very reluctant in doing another Twin Peaks anyway.  I was hoping that the "Ill see you in 25 years" line would get them to do it. But nope
 
2014-04-27 11:30:38 AM
Curiously, if you read recaps from reviewers who got screeners before last week's episode, there's a big difference.

We (the viewers at home) watched Malvo listen to Lester's phone message right before the grocery store goomba (who probably is not long for this world) busted in and let him have a good shiat.

The screener version had Malvo listening to an entirely different conversation.

"I did what you told me. I saw her in the copy room giving me attitude like she doesn't want it but we both know she does, right?"
"So what did you do?"
"I closed the door and said if she ever told the boss I was bothering her again I was gonna come to her house and tie her up, I was gonna tie her up and do things to her that no kind of showering could erase. 'Cause you were right -- we have to take what we want. Deep down inside we're gorillas, right? Wolves...."
 
2014-04-27 12:36:41 PM

Confabulat: Curiously, if you read recaps from reviewers who got screeners before last week's episode, there's a big difference.

We (the viewers at home) watched Malvo listen to Lester's phone message right before the grocery store goomba (who probably is not long for this world) busted in and let him have a good shiat.

The screener version had Malvo listening to an entirely different conversation.

"I did what you told me. I saw her in the copy room giving me attitude like she doesn't want it but we both know she does, right?"
"So what did you do?"
"I closed the door and said if she ever told the boss I was bothering her again I was gonna come to her house and tie her up, I was gonna tie her up and do things to her that no kind of showering could erase. 'Cause you were right -- we have to take what we want. Deep down inside we're gorillas, right? Wolves...."


Which recaps have you read, because I didn't see anything about that little convo
 
2014-04-27 12:49:15 PM

mafiageek1980: Which recaps have you read, because I didn't see anything about that little convo


Entertainment Weekly is where I grabbed the conversation from. I read a lot of recaps but I think AV Club had it too.

Maybe they got weirded out how everyone got weirded out by Game of Thrones rape and dropped it.

But no, I didn't just make that up. Those aren't exactly unknown media outlets.
 
2014-04-27 12:58:36 PM
http://tvrecaps.ew.com/recap/fargo-season-1-episode-2-the-rooster-pri n ce/3/

Scene change to Malvo's hotel room, where he's listening to a recording of some interview: "I did what you told me," a man says."I saw her in the copy room giving me attitude like she doesn't want it but we both know she does, right?"
"So what did you do?" the unmistakable voice of Malvo asks.
"I closed the door and said if she ever told the boss I was bothering her again I was gonna come to her house and tie her up," the unidentified man says. "I was gonna tie her up and do things to her that no kind of showering could erase. 'Cause you were right -- we have to take what we want. Deep down inside we're gorillas, right? Wolves...."
Wait a second -- the end of Unidentified Man's testimony echoes the same speech Malvo gave Lester at the hospital. Is the hit man collecting his own blackmail? Is he collecting pawns?
 
2014-04-27 01:13:08 PM
Done in one. This show is simply amazing.
 
2014-04-27 01:28:59 PM

Confabulat: http://tvrecaps.ew.com/recap/fargo-season-1-episode-2-the-rooster-pri n ce/3/

Scene change to Malvo's hotel room, where he's listening to a recording of some interview: "I did what you told me," a man says."I saw her in the copy room giving me attitude like she doesn't want it but we both know she does, right?"
"So what did you do?" the unmistakable voice of Malvo asks.
"I closed the door and said if she ever told the boss I was bothering her again I was gonna come to her house and tie her up," the unidentified man says. "I was gonna tie her up and do things to her that no kind of showering could erase. 'Cause you were right -- we have to take what we want. Deep down inside we're gorillas, right? Wolves...."
Wait a second -- the end of Unidentified Man's testimony echoes the same speech Malvo gave Lester at the hospital. Is the hit man collecting his own blackmail? Is he collecting pawns?


I think he just likes chaos.  He has a knack for identifying people's weaknesses and driving them to act on their insecurities.  He's like Leland Gaunt in Needful Things.
 
2014-04-27 01:29:56 PM

Confabulat: mafiageek1980: Which recaps have you read, because I didn't see anything about that little convo

Entertainment Weekly is where I grabbed the conversation from. I read a lot of recaps but I think AV Club had it too.

Maybe they got weirded out how everyone got weirded out by Game of Thrones rape and dropped it.

But no, I didn't just make that up. Those aren't exactly unknown media outlets.


Oooh! Yes! Now I remember!
 
2014-04-27 01:32:19 PM

NeoCortex42: Confabulat: NeoCortex42: Am I right in thinking this is a one-season and done show?  Or are there any plans to extend it indefinitely like Under the Dome or Bates Motel?

It's a one and done. They can't even do a True Detective with with this one.

That's good to hear.  I'm glad of this increasing trend of shows willing to tell their story and quit while they're ahead.


Wikipedia says the show will be 10 episodes. So why don't they call this a miniseries? Is 10 just the magic number where it becomes a proper TV series?
 
2014-04-27 01:48:38 PM

B.L.Z. Bub: NeoCortex42: Confabulat: NeoCortex42: Am I right in thinking this is a one-season and done show?  Or are there any plans to extend it indefinitely like Under the Dome or Bates Motel?

It's a one and done. They can't even do a True Detective with with this one.

That's good to hear.  I'm glad of this increasing trend of shows willing to tell their story and quit while they're ahead.

Wikipedia says the show will be 10 episodes. So why don't they call this a miniseries? Is 10 just the magic number where it becomes a proper TV series?


Hawley has said that there have been discussions about extending it into an anthology series if it succeeds, and he is open to doing it if he thinks he has the material.
 
2014-04-27 02:04:39 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2014-04-27 02:59:20 PM
Y'know, after watching the first two episodes of Fargo and absolutely loving it - I wouldn't mind seeing a continuation of the theme (though I know it'd never happen) if not the plot. Hell, just give me a show starring Malvo traveling to various small towns in the middle of nowhere and seeding his particular brand of chaos and I'd be hooked.


/damn but Malvo is a fascinating character
//so what about just more shows about weird/bad things happening in small rural towns with quirky characters?
/// yea, I know. Never gonna happen so let's have more reality shows, why not
 
2014-04-27 03:21:05 PM

Shambling_Corp_Presence: /damn but Malvo is a fascinating character


He really is! Quite possibly one of the most fascinating characters on TV. Starting to look that way anyway.
The look of glee when he set up the chaos at the hotel was great and the pooping staredown was inspired.
I wondered what he was listening to at the start of episode 1 but now I know..Tapes of people who called him as a result of the crap he started
 
2014-04-27 03:58:52 PM

ItchyMcDoogle: Tapes of people who called him as a result of the crap he started


SEMI-SPOILER: When he called the kid and told him he was his father's attorney was wonderfully evil.
 
2014-04-27 04:08:21 PM

ItchyMcDoogle: Shambling_Corp_Presence: /damn but Malvo is a fascinating character

He really is! Quite possibly one of the most fascinating characters on TV. Starting to look that way anyway.
The look of glee when he set up the chaos at the hotel was great and the pooping staredown was inspired.
I wondered what he was listening to at the start of episode 1 but now I know..Tapes of people who called him as a result of the crap he started


He is great to watch, no doubt about it. But I'm going to be disappointed if he doesn't buy it at the end of this series.
 
2014-04-27 04:09:05 PM

mafiageek1980: Speaker2Animals: mafiageek1980: Don't knock it until you watch it. It's got the TONE of "Fargo" but it's its own show.

Welcome to the Grammar Nazi Hall of Fame, son.

I'm a comm major out of Louisiana, not an English Major, lol. We aren't the smartest cats out there but we have big mouths ;)


They speak English in Louisiana?
/"That canille Dr. Weiss was as mad as a snappin' gator in a bubbling pot o' gumbo. He came at Huey doin' a wiiild fais-do-do, like whoeee, he had an envie to rid hisself o' tha' voodoo."
 
2014-04-27 04:21:22 PM
Billy Bob is truly menacing. When he sits down to take a shiat in front of the "security officer" like, "I'm not worried in the least about you," I was just like, "Damn."
 
2014-04-27 04:55:53 PM

catmandu: I am another hooked on this show and, yes, I didn't think they could pull it off but they have in spectacular fashion.

NeoCortex42:

I'm liking Bates Motel.  I agree that it shouldn't go on indefinitely, though.  With the way things are coming to a head between Norman and his mother, I wouldn't mind ending next season or so with where Norman is at the start of Psycho.  Maybe have a final season that essentially tells the story of the first film, ending with him finally locked up.
.
Also a fan of bates Motel and expect them to end it in another 1-2 seasons. I agree with you that one more season to get Norman to the start of Psycho and one more essentially following, but embellishing on, the narrative of the movie will be perfect.
I only have my DVR set for 4 shows. These two, Mad Men, and Orphan Black


I'm really liking Bates Motel as well, though I'm really worried about what's going to happen to the supporting characters, because I'm starting to like them.
 
2014-04-27 06:02:31 PM
I don't know, but I'm getting the sense that Confabulat REALLY likes Fargo.
 
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