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(Washington Free Beacon)   Gov. Pat Quinn of Illinois says, Was that wrong? Should I not have done that? On comparing black Republicans to Jewish Nazi collaborators   (freebeacon.com) divider line 174
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2014-04-26 01:44:44 PM  
Hey, dumb ass, the "overzealous staffer" defense is a little played out at this point, okay? Sheesh.

Also, Twitter is not your friend.
 
2014-04-26 01:49:34 PM  
I believe that the accepted nomenclature is "Uncle Tom"

Which is weird, because "Uncle Tom" in the book refuses to whip a slave and is almost beaten to death.

Either way , Many republicans don't realize that their aren't being served by the party.
 
2014-04-26 01:50:44 PM  
Christ, what a dumbass
 
2014-04-26 02:16:26 PM  
And Obama designed healthcare.gov. Democrats suck at internet.
 
2014-04-26 02:32:29 PM  
I'm pretty sure this means Cloven Bundy has grazed his cattle in Soldier Field since the 1893 World's Fair
 
2014-04-26 02:33:21 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: I'm pretty sure this means Cloven Bundy has grazed his cattle in Soldier Field since the 1893 World's Fair


Cloven being Cliven's son by that particularly fetching goat back in '73
 
2014-04-26 02:40:11 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: I'm pretty sure this means Cloven Bundy has grazed his cattle in Soldier Field since the 1893 World's Fair


I heard his family settled the region in 1501
 
2014-04-26 02:40:35 PM  
To be fair, it's not exactly an inaccurate comparison.

/the same comparison could be made of gay Republicans, female Republicans, poor Republicans, Muslim Republicans....
//...basically any Republican who isn't a rich, white, land-owning, heterosexual Christian male
///and by "Christian" I mean "either fundamentalist evangelical prosperity gospel Baptist, or Mormon"


////yes, Mormons are Christians, despite what most non-Mormon Christians seem to think
 
2014-04-26 02:51:07 PM  

King Something: To be fair, it's not exactly an inaccurate comparison.

/the same comparison could be made of gay Republicans, female Republicans, poor Republicans, Muslim Republicans....
//...basically any Republican who isn't a rich, white, land-owning, heterosexual Christian male
///and by "Christian" I mean "either fundamentalist evangelical prosperity gospel Baptist, or Mormon"


////yes, Mormons are Christians, despite what most non-Mormon Christians seem to think




No they are not. The follow Joseph Smith and Bringham Young teachings. They are no more Christian than Muslims.. Or that Christians are a Jewish sect.
 
2014-04-26 02:53:01 PM  
"Quinn-who would not address the controversy during a Holocaust memorial event yesterday evening-had his campaign issue a statement claiming that nobody on staff "thoroughly" read the article before tweeting it out several times. "

Smart move, going with incompetence over assholishness.  The voters already know he's incompetent, he's not going to get rid of that albatross.  The campaign between him and Rauner is going to be mostly character assassination (Rauner is a rich asshole, so vote for me).  Of course Quinn's people read the article, they knew what they were doing, they just didn't foresee the backlash because they're incompetent.  In Illinois government, people fail upwards.  If they stuck to the article, the narrative that they want to push (Rauner is a rich asshole who is going to make unions illegal and hates minorities, women etc,) would lose its effectiveness.  You can't accuse someone of being a tone-deaf, out-of-touch asshole while being a tone-deaf, out-of-touch asshole yourself.

The reality of course is that Rauner is not nearly as conservative as Quinn's supporters/defenders make him out to be, and that a moderate Republican as a governor and a moderate Democratically-controlled legislature is sort of what Illinois needs right now.  We've had years of Quinn's "leadership" combined with record Democratic supermajorities, and all we have to show for it is the worst fiscal situation in the nation, the worst (or close to worst) jobs situation, average at best services despite overall tax rates (income, sales, property) that together are some of the highest in the nation, the most corruption in the country (thanks in no small part to the absolutely despotic tenure of Lisa Madigan, the state Attorney General and daughter of the most powerful and corrupt politician in the state, Michael Madigan, and the person most responsible for fighting corruption), pension systems that were already too generous when they were set up and still underfunded despite massive cuts to services and "temporary" tax hikes that are now permanent, a turnout/patronage machine that exists to serve only the public employee unions at the behest of taxpayers and not the other way around, and more local units of government (and vectors of corruption and patronage) than any other state.

Sure, Rauner may be toxic to Illinois.  He might hurt.  But the Quinns and Madigans that run this state are a cancer, and one of the ways you fight cancer is with chemo.  Poison.  We need somebody (and it doesn't have to be a Republican, although they're the only ones who seem to be sounding the alarm bells over the status quo, let alone willing to do something about it) who can take on the machine and destroy the cancer before it kills the state.
 
2014-04-26 03:06:56 PM  
People's knowledge of history is so limited, all they can do is play the Nazi card.
 
2014-04-26 03:13:29 PM  

Mugato: People's knowledge of history is so limited, all they can do is play the Nazi card.


What playing the Nazi card might look like:
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2014-04-26 03:48:17 PM  

Darth_Lukecash: No they are not.


Mormons are absolutely Christians. You will not find a more fervent believer that Jesus Christ is the Son of God who was born of a Virgin in order to die for the sins of the world than a devout Mormon. Everything people think is so 'incredibly different' in Mormonism can be found in other Christian traditions? Monophysite? There are still ancient monophysite Christian churches in the Middle East. Additional scripture? Eithiopian Orthodox Christians have had that since the 14th century.The earliest Christians had no New Testament nor were they Niceans, much less Chalcedonians. Exaltation? Eastern Orthodox have that too and its called "Theosis." Priesthood of all believers? Luther and Calvin. Only someone terribly ignorant of worldwide Christian history and culture tries to make that argument.
 
2014-04-26 03:52:21 PM  

Somacandra: You will not find a more fervent believer that Jesus Christ is the Son of God who was born of a Virgin in order to die for the sins of the world than a devout Mormon


Not to forget the fact that every Mormon prayer ends with "In the name of Jesus Christ." Hard to be more devoted to Christ than that.
 
2014-04-26 03:53:21 PM  
"As a general rule, individuals will sell out the interests of their groups in return for personal benefit," Steinberg wrote in his column

Yup. "I got mine--screw you."

Black Republicans = Jews for Hitler.
 
2014-04-26 03:54:16 PM  

Somacandra: Darth_Lukecash: No they are not.

Mormons are absolutely Christians. You will not find a more fervent believer that Jesus Christ is the Son of God who was born of a Virgin in order to die for the sins of the world than a devout Mormon. Everything people think is so 'incredibly different' in Mormonism can be found in other Christian traditions? Monophysite? There are still ancient monophysite Christian churches in the Middle East. Additional scripture? Eithiopian Orthodox Christians have had that since the 14th century.The earliest Christians had no New Testament nor were they Niceans, much less Chalcedonians. Exaltation? Eastern Orthodox have that too and its called "Theosis." Priesthood of all believers? Luther and Calvin. Only someone terribly ignorant of worldwide Christian history and culture tries to make that argument.


Nothing brings out the "True Scotsman" card like religion.
 
2014-04-26 04:23:10 PM  

Somacandra: Darth_Lukecash: No they are not.

Mormons are absolutely Christians. You will not find a more fervent believer that Jesus Christ is the Son of God who was born of a Virgin in order to die for the sins of the world than a devout Mormon. Everything people think is so 'incredibly different' in Mormonism can be found in other Christian traditions? Monophysite? There are still ancient monophysite Christian churches in the Middle East. Additional scripture? Eithiopian Orthodox Christians have had that since the 14th century.The earliest Christians had no New Testament nor were they Niceans, much less Chalcedonians. Exaltation? Eastern Orthodox have that too and its called "Theosis." Priesthood of all believers? Luther and Calvin. Only someone terribly ignorant of worldwide Christian history and culture tries to make that argument.


Amoung the things they believe, that Christians don't: Jesus, God and Holy Spirit are equals (in Christianity they Attlee not)
They also belive that God and Man were always in existence and man is just one step from reaching god hood.

Plus they added a whole book to their religion (which was stolen from a mauscript that Smith grabbed from a preacher who was writing a "lost city" book., Christians hijacking jedeasim and adding their own local customs.)

Plus their belief in the holy mother. Gods wife.

I'm an atheist, so I've studied religions extensively, looking for an answer till I came to my destination. Mormons are not christians. They are a religion, but do not believe in Jesus words.

Jesus was the last and final wird if God. Young and Smith tried to modify that. All the others- catholic to Calvinist, accept the bible as t, but have interpretations of meaning. The didn't add another holly book.
 
2014-04-26 04:33:10 PM  

Darth_Lukecash: I believe that the accepted nomenclature is "Uncle Tom"

Which is weird, because "Uncle Tom" in the book refuses to whip a slave and is almost beaten to death.

Either way , Many republicans don't realize that their aren't being served by the party.


and no one kept Christmas better than the Scrooge technically
 
2014-04-26 05:08:56 PM  

mrshowrules: Darth_Lukecash: I believe that the accepted nomenclature is "Uncle Tom"

Which is weird, because "Uncle Tom" in the book refuses to whip a slave and is almost beaten to death.

Either way , Many republicans don't realize that their aren't being served by the party.

and no one kept Christmas better than the Scrooge technically


Technically is the best kind of Christmas keeping!
 
2014-04-26 05:28:28 PM  
Christ!

He apologized and deleted the tweet.

What do they want? A pound of flesh?
 
2014-04-26 05:31:05 PM  

thismomentinblackhistory: Christ!

He apologized and deleted the tweet.

What do they want? A pound of flesh?


A governor who's not a dumbass, maybe
 
2014-04-26 05:32:36 PM  

thismomentinblackhistory: Christ!

He apologized and deleted the tweet.

What do they want? A pound of flesh?


Tweets, plural.  And he hasn't apologized, at least not according to an admittedly biased article.
 
2014-04-26 05:42:45 PM  
So the Jews were better off when they were slaves?


doyner: Somacandra: Darth_Lukecash: No they are not.

Mormons are absolutely Christians. You will not find a more fervent believer that Jesus Christ is the Son of God who was born of a Virgin in order to die for the sins of the world than a devout Mormon. Everything people think is so 'incredibly different' in Mormonism can be found in other Christian traditions? Monophysite? There are still ancient monophysite Christian churches in the Middle East. Additional scripture? Eithiopian Orthodox Christians have had that since the 14th century.The earliest Christians had no New Testament nor were they Niceans, much less Chalcedonians. Exaltation? Eastern Orthodox have that too and its called "Theosis." Priesthood of all believers? Luther and Calvin. Only someone terribly ignorant of worldwide Christian history and culture tries to make that argument.

Nothing brings out the "True Scotsman" card like religion.


I thought that was the whole point of that fallacy?
 
2014-04-26 05:43:07 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: I'm pretty sure this means Cloven Bundy has grazed his cattle in Soldier Field since the 1893 World's Fair


After the fire, all the grazing land west of Chicago became his. Or something. Anyway, both sides are bad, so you know what to do in November!

And it really is World Nut Saturday.
 
2014-04-26 05:46:24 PM  
Black republican just means rich black guy (who prefers white women). OJ was probably a republican.
 
2014-04-26 05:47:05 PM  

fusillade762: I thought that was the whole point of that fallacy?


In recent years I thought it was more of a political thing, but you're probably right.
 
2014-04-26 05:50:29 PM  
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-04-26 05:51:44 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Mr. Coffee Nerves: I'm pretty sure this means Cloven Bundy has grazed his cattle in Soldier Field since the 1893 World's Fair

Cloven being Cliven's son by that particularly fetching goat back in '73


No, Cloven is Cliven's father. Cloven, son of Clevon, son of Clavicle, son of Cletus, the original grazer on Soldier Field.
 
2014-04-26 05:52:43 PM  

Darth_Lukecash: I believe that the accepted nomenclature is "Uncle Tom"

Which is weird, because "Uncle Tom" in the book refuses to whip a slave and is almost beaten to death.

Either way , Many republicans don't realize that their aren't being served by the party.


Indeed I'd say most Republicans of all racial backgrounds and all but a few economic ones are voting against their best interests by supporting the GOP
 
2014-04-26 05:56:08 PM  

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RIP Black Republicans

 
2014-04-26 05:56:26 PM  
O!  Politicos reposting things without reading them!
SHOCK!
It's not like they ever sign laws they've never read!
 
2014-04-26 05:58:58 PM  
As your official Jewish representative for the day..... I'll allow it.

It looks like TFA wasn't saying that black republicans are exactly like Jewish Nazi collaborators - it was just saying that there are many historical examples of other racial subgroups who have sold out to their oppressors, and gave Jewish Nazi collaborators as an example. It's a more extreme example than black republicans, but in the end it is another example like black republicans are.
 
2014-04-26 06:00:26 PM  

Lorelle: "As a general rule, individuals will sell out the interests of their groups in return for personal benefit," Steinberg wrote in his column

Yup. "I got mine--screw you."

Black Republicans = Jews for Hitler.


You mean there are black people out there who refuse to be boxed in by the stereotypes of their race? There are black people in this country who don't use their race or "muh oppression" as a crutch? No way. Could never happen.
 
2014-04-26 06:01:05 PM  

Darth_Lukecash: King Something: To be fair, it's not exactly an inaccurate comparison.

/the same comparison could be made of gay Republicans, female Republicans, poor Republicans, Muslim Republicans....
//...basically any Republican who isn't a rich, white, land-owning, heterosexual Christian male
///and by "Christian" I mean "either fundamentalist evangelical prosperity gospel Baptist, or Mormon"


////yes, Mormons are Christians, despite what most non-Mormon Christians seem to think

No they are not. The follow Joseph Smith and Bringham Young teachings. They are no more Christian than Muslims.. Or that Christians are a Jewish sect.


You should really brush up on your LDS history.
 
2014-04-26 06:04:19 PM  
 I hate Illinois Nazi's.
 
2014-04-26 06:06:08 PM  

Darth_Lukecash: King Something: To be fair, it's not exactly an inaccurate comparison.

/the same comparison could be made of gay Republicans, female Republicans, poor Republicans, Muslim Republicans....
//...basically any Republican who isn't a rich, white, land-owning, heterosexual Christian male
///and by "Christian" I mean "either fundamentalist evangelical prosperity gospel Baptist, or Mormon"


////yes, Mormons are Christians, despite what most non-Mormon Christians seem to think



No they are not. The follow Joseph Smith and Bringham Young teachings. They are no more Christian than Muslims.. Or that Christians are a Jewish sect.


Does that mean Lutherans are not Christians since they follow the teachings of Martin Luther?
 
2014-04-26 06:09:10 PM  

Lorelle: "As a general rule, individuals will sell out the interests of their groups in return for personal benefit," Steinberg wrote in his column

Yup. "I got mine--screw you."

Black Republicans = Jews for Hitler.


these people better be goddamn millionaires then because that makes sense to me.  Otherwise they are just idiots.
 
2014-04-26 06:19:11 PM  
The Democratic party has a long history of hating on black Republicans  . All the way back to the 1860's .
 
2014-04-26 06:24:34 PM  

you are a puppet: Black republican just means rich black guy (who prefers white women). OJ was probably a republican.


black and gay people can be assholes also.
 
2014-04-26 06:27:45 PM  

rebelyell2006: Darth_Lukecash: King Something: To be fair, it's not exactly an inaccurate comparison.

/the same comparison could be made of gay Republicans, female Republicans, poor Republicans, Muslim Republicans....
//...basically any Republican who isn't a rich, white, land-owning, heterosexual Christian male
///and by "Christian" I mean "either fundamentalist evangelical prosperity gospel Baptist, or Mormon"


////yes, Mormons are Christians, despite what most non-Mormon Christians seem to think

No they are not. The follow Joseph Smith and Bringham Young teachings. They are no more Christian than Muslims.. Or that Christians are a Jewish sect.

Does that mean Lutherans are not Christians since they follow the teachings of Martin Luther?


www.lovethispic.com
 
2014-04-26 06:28:52 PM  
are people supposed to vote for the party that promises to help them the most? I've never been clear on what rationale someone is supposed to use in picking a political party
 
2014-04-26 06:29:36 PM  

AeAe: Lorelle: "As a general rule, individuals will sell out the interests of their groups in return for personal benefit," Steinberg wrote in his column

Yup. "I got mine--screw you."

Black Republicans = Jews for Hitler.

these people better be goddamn millionaires then because that makes sense to me.  Otherwise they are just idiots.


Well, maybe they just really hate gay people and abortion rights.
 
2014-04-26 06:35:23 PM  
Remember, if crazy wingnuts can't make historically inaccurate comparisons to Hitler, then no one can compare anything to Nazi Germany at all, even if the comparison is accurate.
 
2014-04-26 06:37:34 PM  

Tarl3k: rebelyell2006: Darth_Lukecash: King Something: To be fair, it's not exactly an inaccurate comparison.

/the same comparison could be made of gay Republicans, female Republicans, poor Republicans, Muslim Republicans....
//...basically any Republican who isn't a rich, white, land-owning, heterosexual Christian male
///and by "Christian" I mean "either fundamentalist evangelical prosperity gospel Baptist, or Mormon"


////yes, Mormons are Christians, despite what most non-Mormon Christians seem to think

No they are not. The follow Joseph Smith and Bringham Young teachings. They are no more Christian than Muslims.. Or that Christians are a Jewish sect.

Does that mean Lutherans are not Christians since they follow the teachings of Martin Luther?

[www.lovethispic.com image 480x600]


Random nonsense that makes me feel like I know something. Circular logic! Straw Man to the face! Weird nonsensical question?
 
2014-04-26 06:40:01 PM  

Robin Hoodie: are people supposed to vote for the party that promises to help them the most? I've never been clear on what rationale someone is supposed to use in picking a political party


Maybe, maybe not... But they damn well shouldn't vote for the party that works against them and is quietly tolerant of racists until they are noticed.
 
2014-04-26 06:44:43 PM  

rebelyell2006: Darth_Lukecash: King Something: To be fair, it's not exactly an inaccurate comparison.

/the same comparison could be made of gay Republicans, female Republicans, poor Republicans, Muslim Republicans....
//...basically any Republican who isn't a rich, white, land-owning, heterosexual Christian male
///and by "Christian" I mean "either fundamentalist evangelical prosperity gospel Baptist, or Mormon"


////yes, Mormons are Christians, despite what most non-Mormon Christians seem to think



No they are not. The follow Joseph Smith and Bringham Young teachings. They are no more Christian than Muslims.. Or that Christians are a Jewish sect.

Does that mean Lutherans are not Christians since they follow the teachings of Martin Luther?


Not at all, they interpreted the Bible-which are Jesus sayings/teaching- with his apostles/early followers writings.
So basically Lutheran, Roman Catholic, Greek Orrhodox, baptist and all those are sects of the original Christianity. They have the Sam manual, but the differ on the meaning and practice.

Joseph Smith and Bingham Young had the Book of Mormon, which is central to their religion. That book is not accepted by any other Christian faith.

The equivalent would be to claim that Muslims and Christians were Jewish-because they believe in Moses too. They are not. The Gospels and Quaran are not accepted books of beliefs for the Jews.

And if they were Christians, their baptism would be accepted by other Christians. They are not. Also Mormons convert orher people's dead to their religion. Especially other Christians.
 
2014-04-26 06:47:11 PM  

mongbiohazard: As your official Jewish representative for the day..... I'll allow it.

It looks like TFA wasn't saying that black republicans are exactly like Jewish Nazi collaborators - it was just saying that there are many historical examples of other racial subgroups who have sold out to their oppressors, and gave Jewish Nazi collaborators as an example. It's a more extreme example than black republicans, but in the end it is another example like black republicans are.


If you are so Jewish, why you posting on the Sabbath?
 
2014-04-26 06:49:24 PM  
Women who make money denying women equal rights: Phyliss Schlafly, Laura Schlesinger

Blacks who make money denying blacks equal rights: Larry Elder, Clarence Thomas, Herman Cain, Ben Carson

Asians who make money denying asians equal rights: Michelle Malkin

.

It's sad that the money is all on the rights-denying side.
 
2014-04-26 06:50:54 PM  
2.bp.blogspot.com

SOMEBODY CALL ME?
 
2014-04-26 06:51:39 PM  

Emposter: Remember, if crazy wingnuts can't make historically inaccurate comparisons to Hitler, then no one can compare anything to Nazi Germany at all, even if the comparison is accurate.


And here I was about to make a "Hurr, lookit the libtards rushing to defend their guy" joke because, hey, that wasn't going to happen, right?
 
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