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(ABC 27)   Woman uses her pickup to ram into a bank robber's vehicle to help catch him. The truck is pretty much totaled but "it seemed right at the time. I hope a criminal thinks twice about robbing a business in the Wellsville area"   (abc27.com ) divider line
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2014-04-26 03:30:10 PM  

Anastacya: WTFDYW: Anastacya: I can't wait to hear what her insurance company will say once they read this article. Who wants to bet that there will be a follow-up article about her suing the insurance company because they won't replace her vehicle and/or give her a good payout for the one that she totalled?

That truck is about a 95 model. She wouldn't have full coverage, liability only.

Most likely true. On a side note, wonder if the robber could sue her for intentionally hitting his vehicle and any [bullshiat] injuries that he sustained from it?


DNRTFA, but if it was in California, most likely.
 
2014-04-26 03:33:29 PM  

semiotix: There are  lots of things that would serve but "I was pretty sure he was a bad guy doing something wrong" isn't one of them in most states.


I think most (if not all) states prevent someone committing a felony from suing people if they get injured in the process of committing said felony.  If he's convicted of the bank robbery I doubt he'd be able to sue.  At least, a lawyer told me something like that before.  We were drinking, so maybe I have it completely wrong though.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-04-26 03:34:54 PM  
I have been unable to find any useful advice about citizen's arrest in Pennsylvania on the internet. There is a great amount of obviously uninformed or intentionally useless advice.

The general rule in America says at a minimum you may arrest somebody who has committed a felony in your presence. Arguably this happened in the article. A broader version of the rule says you may arrest somebody who has committed a felony, whether or not in your presence. (But if the "robbery" was a convincing movie scene or performance art, you may not make a citizen's arrest.)
 
2014-04-26 03:36:08 PM  
I get it, it's news since she's a "she" and not a "he".  Yay!
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-04-26 03:39:06 PM  
I should add, in addition to not being allowed to make mistakes you may not be allowed to use deadly force to make a citizen's arrest. In my state only police, and those acting under direction of police, can kill people who resist arrest. The precedent came after some guy killed a burglar who didn't want to be arrested. The state supreme court let him off the hook because precedent was unclear, but said it had better not happen again.
 
2014-04-26 03:42:32 PM  

Bslim: WTFDYW: Bslim: Little Miss Dirty Harriet got lucky her little stunt didn't end up crippliing or killing an innocent third party.

You're special, aren't you?

Are YOU?  Bet you'd be singing a different tune if she had rammed that car and it had slammed into your wife or kids car and killed them.


I bet that if a sewer monster had lifted up a manhole cover just as she was approaching it, knocking it away so that it ricocheted off a hot dog cart run by a guy from Transylvania before flipping end-over-end off a truck carrying a load of inflated air mattresses in the bed, then hitting a flagpole so hard it tipped right over and onto a playground see-saw and flung a kid high into the air, only to land on an unusually large duck swimming in a nearby lake that was still not big enough to support his weight and sinking, thus drowning the kid, he'd be pretty upset.

I mean, as long as we're using hypotheticals...
 
2014-04-26 03:51:38 PM  

davidphogan: I think most (if not all) states prevent someone committing a felony from suing people if they get injured in the process of committing said felony.  If he's convicted of the bank robbery I doubt he'd be able to sue.  At least, a lawyer told me something like that before.  We were drinking, so maybe I have it completely wrong though.


You may be right. What I'm absolutely certain of is that it would take an ambulance full of lawyers to figure out exactly whether and to what extent all that applied here. Which is actually a good thing, since the impulse to say "what the hell, I'll ram this guy with my truck and then see how it shakes out afterwards" is curbed by that uncertainty.

I like drinking with lawyers too. They've got great stories. Also locksmiths.
 
2014-04-26 03:59:03 PM  
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2014-04-26 04:03:37 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: Kamala's Bowling Partner: Anastacya: WTFDYW: Anastacya: I can't wait to hear what her insurance company will say once they read this article. Who wants to bet that there will be a follow-up article about her suing the insurance company because they won't replace her vehicle and/or give her a good payout for the one that she totalled?

That truck is about a 95 model. She wouldn't have full coverage, liability only.

Most likely true. On a side note, wonder if the robber could sue her for intentionally hitting his vehicle and any [bullshiat] injuries that he sustained from it?

Could he? Hell yes. Successfully winning or settling in his favor is a different story.

I don't think it would be all that unbelievable.....

The cops are trained to use the minimal amount of force necessary.  They explicitly don't do things like intentionally ramming into suspects, except as a last resort.  Sure, what he was doing was wrong, but....he's a victim of a broken home, was under the influence, has a dying child.  What he did was wrong, and our legal system exists to punish him.  Not vigilantes armed with half ton vehicles.  He now suffers chronic pain and is unable to sit or walk and requires extensive physical therapy.


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2014-04-26 04:04:36 PM  

Emposter: Hero?  Seriously?  First, she's an idiot for getting involved at all when no one was at risk.  She made the situation more dangerous for everyone around her and the robber, for nothing.

Second, she's now a criminal.  She committed vehicular assault, not to mention a number of moving violations.  You can't just attack people because they're criminals.  You or someone else has to be at risk.


Not sure if stupid or just wilfully ignorant.
 
2014-04-26 04:06:40 PM  
I'd have used the dumbass tag.  You're going to risk your life for an insured banks' money?  Call the cops and let them deal with it.  Maybe she owes the bank and hoped this would be payment enough.
 
2014-04-26 04:09:10 PM  

Nix Nightbird: There is no way in hell I would ever put myself in danger or at financial risk to apprehend a guy robbing a bank. Stopping a killer, a rapist, a mugger... All different, and I'd judge on a case-by-case basis, but a bank? NEVER. All I have to do is think what the bank's officers would do if the situation were reversed. Would the CEO of PNC Bank put himself at risk to stop someone from taking MY money? HELL FARKING NO. Would the executives and shareholders of PNC Bank feel ANY obligation to protect me if they saw me in peril? NO FARKING WAY. They're a bank. They're pretty much one of the most selfish types of business that can exist.

If I were on fire in the middle of the street, the people who own PNC bank wouldn't piss on me to put out the flames. I know it. They know it. I have absolutely ZERO incentive to be a hero and rescue their sorry asses from a minor financial ding. Hell, half the time they're the ones doing the REAL stealing in this country.

So fark them. This lady just wrecked her truck, risked her life, and caught a bank robber on behalf of a group of Wall Street assholes who would sell her into slavery if it were legal and earned them a profit.


Minor adjustment needed.
 
2014-04-26 04:26:13 PM  

WTFDYW: Fark_Guy_Rob: Kamala's Bowling Partner: Anastacya: WTFDYW: Anastacya: I can't wait to hear what her insurance company will say once they read this article. Who wants to bet that there will be a follow-up article about her suing the insurance company because they won't replace her vehicle and/or give her a good payout for the one that she totalled?

That truck is about a 95 model. She wouldn't have full coverage, liability only.

Most likely true. On a side note, wonder if the robber could sue her for intentionally hitting his vehicle and any [bullshiat] injuries that he sustained from it?

Could he? Hell yes. Successfully winning or settling in his favor is a different story.

I don't think it would be all that unbelievable.....

The cops are trained to use the minimal amount of force necessary.  They explicitly don't do things like intentionally ramming into suspects, except as a last resort.  Sure, what he was doing was wrong, but....he's a victim of a broken home, was under the influence, has a dying child.  What he did was wrong, and our legal system exists to punish him.  Not vigilantes armed with half ton vehicles.  He now suffers chronic pain and is unable to sit or walk and requires extensive physical therapy.

An S-10 2x2 weighs in at about 3,600lbs. That makes it worth MORE money to sue.


Half-ton refers to the payload capacity, not the actual weight of the truck.
 
2014-04-26 04:45:45 PM  

ZAZ: If I intentionally ram a car my insurance pays nothing to me and $5,000 to the guy I hit.
But in the heat of the moment I wouldn't be thinking about insurance. If it's worth ramming a car, it's worth ramming a car.


That's why i keep the snow plow on my truck all year.

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2014-04-26 05:52:25 PM  

semiotix: I like drinking with lawyers too. They've got great stories. Also locksmiths.


I'd add firefighters and anyone in the medical field.
 
2014-04-26 06:11:24 PM  
Damn busy body, she  should have minded her own damn business. Now had she had hunted down and systematically ran over the real thieves that run the banking industry I would applaud her as a patriot and a hero.
 
2014-04-26 06:47:12 PM  

davidphogan: semiotix: I like drinking with lawyers too. They've got great stories. Also locksmiths.

I'd add firefighters and anyone in the medical field.


There's no lost and found box. There is an ass box...
 
2014-04-26 08:04:20 PM  

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Nice. VERY nice.
 
2014-04-26 08:07:32 PM  

99.998er: WTFDYW: Fark_Guy_Rob: Kamala's Bowling Partner: Anastacya: WTFDYW: Anastacya: I can't wait to hear what her insurance company will say once they read this article. Who wants to bet that there will be a follow-up article about her suing the insurance company because they won't replace her vehicle and/or give her a good payout for the one that she totalled?

That truck is about a 95 model. She wouldn't have full coverage, liability only.

Most likely true. On a side note, wonder if the robber could sue her for intentionally hitting his vehicle and any [bullshiat] injuries that he sustained from it?

Could he? Hell yes. Successfully winning or settling in his favor is a different story.

I don't think it would be all that unbelievable.....

The cops are trained to use the minimal amount of force necessary.  They explicitly don't do things like intentionally ramming into suspects, except as a last resort.  Sure, what he was doing was wrong, but....he's a victim of a broken home, was under the influence, has a dying child.  What he did was wrong, and our legal system exists to punish him.  Not vigilantes armed with half ton vehicles.  He now suffers chronic pain and is unable to sit or walk and requires extensive physical therapy.

An S-10 2x2 weighs in at about 3,600lbs. That makes it worth MORE money to sue.

Half-ton refers to the payload capacity, not the actual weight of the truck.


I know that, but I read the post as she thought a vehicle weighs a half ton. Maybe I read it wrong.
 
2014-04-26 08:08:57 PM  

WTFDYW: 99.998er: WTFDYW: Fark_Guy_Rob: Kamala's Bowling Partner: Anastacya: WTFDYW: Anastacya: I can't wait to hear what her insurance company will say once they read this article. Who wants to bet that there will be a follow-up article about her suing the insurance company because they won't replace her vehicle and/or give her a good payout for the one that she totalled?

That truck is about a 95 model. She wouldn't have full coverage, liability only.

Most likely true. On a side note, wonder if the robber could sue her for intentionally hitting his vehicle and any [bullshiat] injuries that he sustained from it?

Could he? Hell yes. Successfully winning or settling in his favor is a different story.

I don't think it would be all that unbelievable.....

The cops are trained to use the minimal amount of force necessary.  They explicitly don't do things like intentionally ramming into suspects, except as a last resort.  Sure, what he was doing was wrong, but....he's a victim of a broken home, was under the influence, has a dying child.  What he did was wrong, and our legal system exists to punish him.  Not vigilantes armed with half ton vehicles.  He now suffers chronic pain and is unable to sit or walk and requires extensive physical therapy.

An S-10 2x2 weighs in at about 3,600lbs. That makes it worth MORE money to sue.

Half-ton refers to the payload capacity, not the actual weight of the truck.

I know that, but I read the post as she thought a vehicle weighs a half ton. Maybe I read it wrong.


No. No, I did not read it wrong.
 
2014-04-26 09:08:31 PM  

Nix Nightbird: There is no way in hell I would ever put myself in danger or at financial risk to apprehend a guy robbing a bank. Stopping a killer, a rapist, a mugger... All different, and I'd judge on a case-by-case basis, but a bank? NEVER. All I have to do is think what the bank's officers would do if the situation were reversed. Would the CEO of PNC Bank put himself at risk to stop someone from taking MY money? HELL FARKING NO. Would the executives and shareholders of PNC Bank feel ANY obligation to protect me if they saw me in peril? NO FARKING WAY. They're a bank. They're pretty much one of the most selfish types of business that can exist.

If I were on fire in the middle of the street, the people who own PNC bank wouldn't piss on me to put out the flames. I know it. They know it. I have absolutely ZERO incentive to be a hero and rescue their sorry asses from a minor financial ding. Hell, half the time they're the ones doing the REAL stealing in this country.

So fark them. This lady just wrecked her truck, risked her life, and caught a bank robber on behalf of a group of Wall Street assholes who would sell her into slavery if it were legal and earned them a profit.


Lol THIS!
 
2014-04-26 09:57:49 PM  
A bank?  So...we aren't pissed at banks anymore?
 
2014-04-26 10:55:52 PM  

99.998er: WTFDYW: Fark_Guy_Rob: Kamala's Bowling Partner: Anastacya: WTFDYW: Anastacya: I can't wait to hear what her insurance company will say once they read this article. Who wants to bet that there will be a follow-up article about her suing the insurance company because they won't replace her vehicle and/or give her a good payout for the one that she totalled?

That truck is about a 95 model. She wouldn't have full coverage, liability only.

Most likely true. On a side note, wonder if the robber could sue her for intentionally hitting his vehicle and any [bullshiat] injuries that he sustained from it?

Could he? Hell yes. Successfully winning or settling in his favor is a different story.

I don't think it would be all that unbelievable.....

The cops are trained to use the minimal amount of force necessary.  They explicitly don't do things like intentionally ramming into suspects, except as a last resort.  Sure, what he was doing was wrong, but....he's a victim of a broken home, was under the influence, has a dying child.  What he did was wrong, and our legal system exists to punish him.  Not vigilantes armed with half ton vehicles.  He now suffers chronic pain and is unable to sit or walk and requires extensive physical therapy.

An S-10 2x2 weighs in at about 3,600lbs. That makes it worth MORE money to sue.

Half-ton refers to the payload capacity, not the actual weight of the truck.


S-10's are not 1/2 ton, they are 1/4 to 1/3 ton, but not 1/2 ton.  1/2 ton trucks are the light weight FULL size trucks, like GMC 1500, Ram 1500, and F-150.  So either way, you were wrong.
 
2014-04-26 11:07:36 PM  
I went to school with this dickhead. Small world.
 
2014-04-27 01:28:31 AM  

Seacop: No doubt the insurance company won't pay, but my bet is the town rallies and buys her a replacement.


Since this is bound to attract attention from the internet, I'm betting a LOT of people will rally to help her purchase a replacement.
 
2014-04-27 10:10:55 AM  

Kit Fister: Emposter: Hero?  Seriously?  First, she's an idiot for getting involved at all when no one was at risk.  She made the situation more dangerous for everyone around her and the robber, for nothing.

Second, she's now a criminal.  She committed vehicular assault, not to mention a number of moving violations.  You can't just attack people because they're criminals.  You or someone else has to be at risk.

Not sure if stupid or just wilfully ignorant.


Let's go with both to be sure.
 
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