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2014-04-26 10:03:37 AM
Misleading headline is misleading. Should just say "The state of idaho still does not recognize same sex marriage, and it makes no difference if you're a veteran". Change the state law or go get buried somewhere else.
 
2014-04-26 11:19:58 AM

PreMortem: Misleading headline is misleading. Should just say "The state of idaho still does not recognize same sex marriage, and it makes no difference if you're a veteran". Change the state law or go get buried somewhere else.


Their stuff is in federal court now, so they'll likely lose just like Utah did.
 
2014-04-26 11:21:08 AM
The important thing is that traditional marriage has been defended once again
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2014-04-26 11:31:57 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: The important thing is that traditional marriage has been defended once again


Well, the definition in the conservative dictionary anyway.
 
2014-04-26 01:28:08 PM
"I don't see where the ashes of a couple old lesbians is going to hurt anyone."

Sorry, lady, the conservative derp exists even in death.
 
2014-04-26 01:28:49 PM
She's really dying to get in there, huh?
 
2014-04-26 01:30:09 PM

PreMortem: Misleading headline is misleading. Should just say "The state of idaho still does not recognize same sex marriage, and it makes no difference if you're a veteran". Change the state law or go get buried somewhere else.


Stuff like this is usually how laws like that get overturned.
 
2014-04-26 01:30:54 PM
Idaho: State of Taters and Haters
 
2014-04-26 01:32:06 PM
"Eventually I'm going to be there. It'll happen. They might as well give up and let us go now," Taylor told KHOU.com.

Good for her.
 
2014-04-26 01:37:07 PM

PreMortem: Misleading headline is misleading. Should just say "The state of idaho still does not recognize same sex marriage, and it makes no difference if you're a veteran". Change the state law or go get buried somewhere else.


Who decides who can and cannot be buried in a veteran's cemetery, though?  For one example, the army integrated long before the rest of the country did.
 
2014-04-26 01:37:09 PM
Wow. Such Love. Many Jesus
 
2014-04-26 01:37:50 PM

vpb: MaudlinMutantMollusk: The important thing is that traditional marriage has been defended once again

Well, the definition in the conservative dictionary anyway.


Yeah, that was the point of the sarcasm.
 
2014-04-26 01:39:26 PM
The common clay of the new west, Idaho.
 
2014-04-26 01:41:03 PM
Just a thought. What will conservatives do if we can ever show scientifically that any particular fetus is >50% likely to be gay in its mature life?

Oh yeah, science doesn't exist here in Derpganistan.
 
2014-04-26 01:41:19 PM

Summoner101: The common clay of the new west, Idaho.


The retarded little brother of the Pacific Northwest.
 
2014-04-26 01:42:13 PM

PreMortem: Misleading headline is misleading. Should just say "The state of idaho still does not recognize same sex marriage, and it makes no difference if you're a veteran". Change the state law or go get buried somewhere else.


I actually had to reread the headline as that my mind slipped in the word 'his'.

/filling in missing words is a defense mechanism to deal with misspelled/messed up greenlit headlines
//sayof
 
2014-04-26 01:46:19 PM

MFAWG: Summoner101: The common clay of the new west, Idaho.

The retarded little brother of the Pacific Northwest.


Idaho: Full Potato.
 
2014-04-26 01:46:49 PM
All I can say, is it's about time. Listen, I don't have any qualms about gays. Back at my last house in Texas, I told a neighbor if we had a gay family or two in the area, it would clean up the neighborhood a lot. I was the one who wound up moving, and looking back, that was a good thing. You know, Texas and retards and all. Let's face it; there's a lot of types of people you'd rather not live around.
 
2014-04-26 01:47:54 PM

LoneWolf343: PreMortem: Misleading headline is misleading. Should just say "The state of idaho still does not recognize same sex marriage, and it makes no difference if you're a veteran". Change the state law or go get buried somewhere else.

Stuff like this is usually how laws like that get overturned.


Agreed, and I hope it does. Too bad it had to personally affect her to become an activist.
 
2014-04-26 01:48:16 PM

quo vadimus: Just a thought. What will conservatives do if we can ever show scientifically that any particular fetus is >50% likely to be gay in its mature life?

Oh yeah, science doesn't exist here in Derpganistan.


I suspect that their opposition to abortion would change lickety-split.
 
2014-04-26 01:48:47 PM
This lady is a seriously cool person. Just thought I'd mention that.
 
2014-04-26 01:51:41 PM
"Madelynn Taylor, 74, served six years in the United States Navy. "

this right here is why I immediately stop giving a shiat when the bulk of people play the "veteran" card in order to get special treatment. she's 74... so that means she was likely in the Navy during the 60s. what roles did women play in the navy in the 60s? You did your minimum and got out. you were never in combat. I don't give you the same deference as the people who actually got shot at.
 
2014-04-26 01:52:10 PM
Marriage is a sacred bond between an E-list actor and the winner of a reality show.
 
2014-04-26 01:55:18 PM
I wonder who makes more noise... the people who are actually against gay marriage, or the people outraged because there are people against gay marriage?  Seriously.

I only mention it because I know a lot of people who vote republican and none of them really give much of a shiat about that issue.
 
2014-04-26 01:55:19 PM
because Jesus

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-04-26 01:55:52 PM
Lots of gay people have served in wars so we could live free.

We should do it.

The current law is unjust and should be stricken.
 
2014-04-26 01:59:37 PM

flondrix: PreMortem: Misleading headline is misleading. Should just say "The state of idaho still does not recognize same sex marriage, and it makes no difference if you're a veteran". Change the state law or go get buried somewhere else.

Who decides who can and cannot be buried in a veteran's cemetery, though?  For one example, the army integrated long before the rest of the country did.


It's run by the state of Idaho. I'm sure (not really sure) she could have her funeral wishes granted on the other side of town in a privately owned cemetery.
 
2014-04-26 01:59:50 PM

The_Original_Roxtar: "Madelynn Taylor, 74, served six years in the United States Navy. "

this right here is why I immediately stop giving a shiat when the bulk of people play the "veteran" card in order to get special treatment. she's 74... so that means she was likely in the Navy during the 60s. what roles did women play in the navy in the 60s? You did your minimum and got out. you were never in combat. I don't give you the same deference as the people who actually got shot at.


graphics8.nytimes.com
 
2014-04-26 02:00:51 PM

PreMortem: LoneWolf343: PreMortem: Misleading headline is misleading. Should just say "The state of idaho still does not recognize same sex marriage, and it makes no difference if you're a veteran". Change the state law or go get buried somewhere else.

Stuff like this is usually how laws like that get overturned.

Agreed, and I hope it does. Too bad it had to personally affect her to become an activist.


I found another article which better illustrates her evolution as an activist. Apparently a visit from Jerry Falwell to Boise in the 1980's inspired her to come out of the closet and speak out against homophobia. Another interesting tidbit is she was initially discharged from the military in the 1960's when someone ratted her out for being a lesbian.
 
2014-04-26 02:02:14 PM
That's gay.
 
2014-04-26 02:05:55 PM

The_Original_Roxtar: what roles did women play in the navy in the 60s?


Um, the ones they were assigned to?
 
2014-04-26 02:07:57 PM
Today's GOP, folks. How proud they must be.

In 50 years, republicans will be remembered the same way most of us remember the KKK today.
 
2014-04-26 02:11:00 PM
Doesn't Article IV Section 1 of the Constitution require them to honor the marriage certificate?

I quote

Section 1 - Each State to Honor all others
Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof.
 
2014-04-26 02:13:07 PM

The_Original_Roxtar: "Madelynn Taylor, 74, served six years in the United States Navy. "

this right here is why I immediately stop giving a shiat when the bulk of people play the "veteran" card in order to get special treatment. she's 74... so that means she was likely in the Navy during the 60s. what roles did women play in the navy in the 60s? You did your minimum and got out. you were never in combat. I don't give you the same deference as the people who actually got shot at.


6 years was the minimum? You literally have NO IDEA what your talking about, and it doesn't matter anyway. She's a veteran that wants to be buried in a veterans cemetery. That's why we have them.
 
2014-04-26 02:19:07 PM

PreMortem: It's run by the state of Idaho. I'm sure (not really sure) she could have her funeral wishes granted on the other side of town in a privately owned cemetery.


In the forties, people would have said the same about black veterans.
 
2014-04-26 02:20:25 PM
Idaho: at least the cows are sane
 
2014-04-26 02:20:34 PM

The_Original_Roxtar: "Madelynn Taylor, 74, served six years in the United States Navy. "

this right here is why I immediately stop giving a shiat when the bulk of people play the "veteran" card in order to get special treatment. she's 74... so that means she was likely in the Navy during the 60s. what roles did women play in the navy in the 60s? You did your minimum and got out. you were never in combat. I don't give you the same deference as the people who actually got shot at.


Yeah. Fark the Navy Nurse Corps, the Yeomen serving on ships, and any woman who was in the military during Viet Nam-- forced to wear a SKIRT and PUMPS in combat conditions-- despite the draft not existing for women (Yes, this is true). To hell with all the women in the Navy WAVES who performed essential support tasks, as well as getting into the thick of things in intelligence, science & technology, and field medicine. Screw Lieutenant Charlene I. Suneson who, in 1961, became the first of many women to serve on Navy ships.

I mean, women didn't even HAVE to join! They weren't compelled to. They were actually discouraged from doing it by most of society in the 1960s. What the hell does this lesbian think she was doing VOLUNTEERING to join the military and serve her country? She should have stayed home and made you a sandwich.
 
2014-04-26 02:22:18 PM

cwheelie: Idaho: at least the cows are sane


Though they do have a touch of PTSD after all the sexual abuse at the hands of the farmers.
 
2014-04-26 02:22:30 PM
Save the snark for another thread.
 
2014-04-26 02:23:52 PM

The_Original_Roxtar: "Madelynn Taylor, 74, served six years in the United States Navy. "

this right here is why I immediately stop giving a shiat when the bulk of people play the "veteran" card in order to get special treatment. she's 74... so that means she was likely in the Navy during the 60s. what roles did women play in the navy in the 60s? You did your minimum and got out. you were never in combat. I don't give you the same deference as the people who actually got shot at.


"He said, shaking his fist from his armchair, the one he specifically purchased to watch every war on CNN."
 
2014-04-26 02:25:32 PM

thismomentinblackhistory: PreMortem: LoneWolf343: PreMortem: Misleading headline is misleading. Should just say "The state of idaho still does not recognize same sex marriage, and it makes no difference if you're a veteran". Change the state law or go get buried somewhere else.

Stuff like this is usually how laws like that get overturned.

Agreed, and I hope it does. Too bad it had to personally affect her to become an activist.

I found another article which better illustrates her evolution as an activist. Apparently a visit from Jerry Falwell to Boise in the 1980's inspired her to come out of the closet and speak out against homophobia. Another interesting tidbit is she was initially discharged from the military in the 1960's when someone ratted her out for being a lesbian.


It's strange she is trying to get into a veterans cemetary. I'm guessing she remembers her service but not how the military screwed her. Maybe she is trying to put a thumb in the eye so to speak.
 
2014-04-26 02:26:15 PM

GORDON: I wonder who makes more noise... the people who are actually against gay marriage, or the people outraged because there are people against gay marriage?


The tide appears to be turning, if that is what you are asking.  And Republicans are committed to the losing side.

I only mention it because I know a lot of people who vote republican and none of them really give much of a shiat about that issue.

Um, have you noticed the way the Republican party goes full retard on this issue?  If there is a silent majority within the party who oppose that...so what?  Silence equals assent.
 
2014-04-26 02:28:20 PM

PreMortem: thismomentinblackhistory: PreMortem: LoneWolf343: PreMortem: Misleading headline is misleading. Should just say "The state of idaho still does not recognize same sex marriage, and it makes no difference if you're a veteran". Change the state law or go get buried somewhere else.

Stuff like this is usually how laws like that get overturned.

Agreed, and I hope it does. Too bad it had to personally affect her to become an activist.

I found another article which better illustrates her evolution as an activist. Apparently a visit from Jerry Falwell to Boise in the 1980's inspired her to come out of the closet and speak out against homophobia. Another interesting tidbit is she was initially discharged from the military in the 1960's when someone ratted her out for being a lesbian.

It's strange she is trying to get into a veterans cemetary. I'm guessing she remembers her service but not how the military screwed her. Maybe she is trying to put a thumb in the eye so to speak.


Maybe she's proud of it.
 
2014-04-26 02:29:30 PM

PreMortem: Misleading headline is misleading. Should just say "The state of idaho still does not recognize same sex marriage, and it makes no difference if you're a veteran". Change the state law or go get buried somewhere else.


The law should be ignored when it's wrong. Democracy doesn't work when the majority is wrong.
 
2014-04-26 02:33:07 PM

MFAWG: PreMortem: thismomentinblackhistory: PreMortem: LoneWolf343: PreMortem: Misleading headline is misleading. Should just say "The state of idaho still does not recognize same sex marriage, and it makes no difference if you're a veteran". Change the state law or go get buried somewhere else.

Stuff like this is usually how laws like that get overturned.

Agreed, and I hope it does. Too bad it had to personally affect her to become an activist.

I found another article which better illustrates her evolution as an activist. Apparently a visit from Jerry Falwell to Boise in the 1980's inspired her to come out of the closet and speak out against homophobia. Another interesting tidbit is she was initially discharged from the military in the 1960's when someone ratted her out for being a lesbian.

It's strange she is trying to get into a veterans cemetary. I'm guessing she remembers her service but not how the military screwed her. Maybe she is trying to put a thumb in the eye so to speak.

Maybe she's proud of it.


I concur. Should have added a word or two to "remembers her service".
 
2014-04-26 02:34:06 PM

Nix Nightbird: cwheelie: Idaho: at least the cows are sane

Though they do have a touch of PTSD after all the sexual abuse at the hands of the farmers.


more like an STD
 
2014-04-26 02:34:12 PM

Nem Wan: PreMortem: Misleading headline is misleading. Should just say "The state of idaho still does not recognize same sex marriage, and it makes no difference if you're a veteran". Change the state law or go get buried somewhere else.

The law should be ignored when it's wrong. Democracy doesn't work when the majority is wrong.


I'm for her cause but more for the rule of law.
 
2014-04-26 02:35:35 PM

The_Original_Roxtar: "Madelynn Taylor, 74, served six years in the United States Navy. "

this right here is why I immediately stop giving a shiat when the bulk of people play the "veteran" card in order to get special treatment. she's 74... so that means she was likely in the Navy during the 60s. what roles did women play in the navy in the 60s? You did your minimum and got out. you were never in combat. I don't give you the same deference as the people who actually got shot at.


That's a pretty shiat attitude you have to the majority of vets, then. "You were never in combat" means they don't deserve the same right and privileges as those who do? You realize that is why the DoD has medals to distinguish those who served in combat vs. those who don't, and that is the only distinction that should be made, and that likely, a person could spend an entire 20 year term without seeing combat or be sent overseas to get "shot at".

You make it seem like she enlisted then went AWOL or got a dishonorable discharge. So, it comes down a) you have a grudge against anyone who wears the uniform and doesn't have their life put in immediate danger, or b) you're using your poorly based argument to disguise your belief that homosexuals don't deserve the same rights as those who are straight.
 
2014-04-26 02:35:53 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: The important thing is that traditional marriage has been defended once again


Even dead married people are safe from teh homogheys praise god!
 
2014-04-26 02:37:34 PM

LoneWolf343: PreMortem: Misleading headline is misleading. Should just say "The state of idaho still does not recognize same sex marriage, and it makes no difference if you're a veteran". Change the state law or go get buried somewhere else.

Stuff like this is usually how laws like that get overturned.


I think the super-conservatives are really shooting themselves in the foot by constantly violating the basic tenet of "don't be a dick."  For example, in Kansas a few weeks ago, the legislature had to come up with about $130m because the state lost a lawsuit arguing that they were inequitably funding schools.  So they found the money and then attached an amendment to take away teachers' due process hearings.  Now, teachers in Kansas don't have tenure.  The hearings are merely an administrative appeal to prevent principals from firing teachers for no reason.  But teachers get fired in Kansas all the time.

But the legislature wasn't going to give up its money without taking a pound of flesh back in return, so they passed the bill taking away teachers' due process hearings (which might itself not even be constitutional since the state Supreme Court ruled back in the 1970s that teachers were owed due process not to mention that it seems to be a fundamental violation of the right to negotiate).  And did I mention that the amendment was added to the bill in an unposted committee meeting (also in violation of the law) conducted in the middle of the night after the session had ended and all the teachers and reporters had gone home?  Now they've got a lot of people in the state pissed off because there was no reason to pass this legislation accept as a vendetta against teachers for beating the legislature in court.

Conservatives really need to start asking themselves, "am I being dick"?  That is, does this legislation serve any purpose other than to target a group of people I don't like?  Because it's really starting to hurt their cause.
 
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