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(Yahoo)   What do you do if your wife can't officially register to run the Boston Marathon? If you're the founder of Foursquare, you know "rules" don't apply to rich people, so you just steal someone else's number   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 28
    More: Asinine, Boston Marathon, Foursquare, hurt feelings, marathon, WCVB-TV, Dennis Crowley  
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2014-04-26 09:50:11 AM  
5 votes:
Crowley should donate - VERY generously - to the charity Kathy Brown worked so hard raising money for - you know, unlike just trying to buy a bib with a fat check to a charity like his wife did.
pla
2014-04-26 12:18:44 PM  
3 votes:
This seems counter to the running sentiment here so far, but...

So what?  She went for a run, on public roads they annoyingly close down every year (greatly pissing off many of the locals, street-vendors obviously excluded) as someone who couldn't officially win.  She didn't "steal" someone else's number, she just used a fake random number to get past all the stupid BS security theater (which her running pretty much proves as just theater, for those who will protest that last year's events justify the new rules).

The only real "problem" I see here, she couldn't just legitimately register and run the damned thing with her husband.  Get over yourself, Boston.  You ain't the IOC (and shouldn't try to emulate those corrupt worthless bastards).
2014-04-26 10:52:45 AM  
3 votes:
The really sad part is using the bombing last year to justify your stupid actions this year.
2014-04-26 06:28:15 PM  
2 votes:

Warlordtrooper: I hate the concept of rich people getting away with things as much as anyone but this whole thing is just stupid.  I wasn't aware the Boston Marathon was taking place on private property.  Its being done in the public streets,  nobody has a right to bar a member of the public from being in a public place.


Of course they can. Try and drive on the course with a car during the race; see how that works out for you.

If you didn't buy a ticket, stay the fark out.
2014-04-26 03:37:10 PM  
2 votes:

notatrollorami: Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: SecretAgentWoman: Crowley should donate - VERY generously - to the charity Kathy Brown worked so hard raising money for - you know, unlike just trying to buy a bib with a fat check to a charity like his wife did.

Sure.  He's rich, right?  He should just buy his way out of trouble.

How is this a rich-hate thread? Oh, yeah, the headline appeals to rich-haters.

Under the specific set of circumstances (couldn't finish together last year thanks to the bombing, couldn't finagle a legit entry for her this year) I don't see how anyone can be really upset about printing a fake bib. Which does not require much money, BTW. Who was hurt and how exactly?

They fudged a bib, harmed no one, stole nothing (is someone pissed she breathed their air on the route?) and completed a treasured mutual goal they trained long and hard for.

If this makes your blood boil you may want to consider whether you're just kind of a dick.


Marathon size limits are a function of road width. You can only have so many people trying to run a route before it's a mess. Once they have a limit, the organizers plan for water, food and energy drinks based on that number.

Bandits screw up both those; they make the course more congested and take food and water for runners that paid for it.
2014-04-26 12:35:42 PM  
2 votes:
We tried to play by the rules, but that didn't give us what we wanted. Common people can't understand the passion of people at our level. I think what you want is for me to say that I'm sorry my wife screwed up. She is sorry. Again, we don't expect you to understand.
2014-04-26 11:50:22 AM  
2 votes:
So basically: "Yeah we knew it was wrong, but we really wanted to do it so..."
2014-04-26 11:24:43 AM  
2 votes:
Douchebag Rich Guy: "Yes, using a duplicate number to get Chelsa into the starting corral with me was wrong," Dennis wrote. "I don't expect everyone to understand our strong need to run and finish together"

F*ck You. Your "strong need" excuse is bunk.

Again, F*ck! You!
2014-04-26 10:49:03 AM  
2 votes:
the Wealthy steal all the time in 'murica. just ask Cliven Bundy.   they are smart enough and protected enough to rarely get caught.


steal tens of millions on wall street, get admiration.  steal 200 dollars from the convenience store, go to prison.


the fact that almost half of this nation's total wealth is owned by the richest 1% is further evidence of theft since, after all, we live in a 'Democratic Republic'.  wink.
2014-04-26 10:37:27 AM  
2 votes:
I see nothing wrong with what she did.
2014-04-26 09:40:58 AM  
2 votes:
Let's see, no backpacks, meaning the veterans can't participate this year.

No unregistered participants, due to security concerns.

I think we can add "too rich to be considered a terrorist" to the list.
2014-04-26 10:39:02 PM  
1 votes:

notatrollorami: I disagree. Theft is a crime with a victim. Duplicating a bib is victimless. It's a dick move but no one is harmed and it is therefore a lesser offense.


They didn't pay the fee to the BAA which means they didn't pay for the course marshals, the police protection, the water and Gatorade, the nutritional supplements, etc.  That's theft.  Not a victimless crime.  Not murder but still petty theft and should be treated as if they stole $180 worth of goods (price of admission).  And they should be barred from future Boston Marathons as they ran under false pretenses.
2014-04-26 04:06:21 PM  
1 votes:

Warlordtrooper: I hate the concept of rich people getting away with things as much as anyone but this whole thing is just stupid.  I wasn't aware the Boston Marathon was taking place on private property.  Its being done in the public streets,  nobody has a right to bar a member of the public from being in a public place.


Oh, look. Another one with the Cliven Bundy defense, eh?
2014-04-26 03:56:39 PM  
1 votes:
I see this as along the lines of the chick in a thread a few days ago, the one who stole stuff from restaurants.

It's a mindset that "rules don't apply to me". If a few people do it, not much harm. But not everyone can operate on that mindset, or the harm would be cumulative.

I'm mostly amused that he's a very public figure, and pulled this shiat by posting pix of his wife with the fake numbers. That and his non-apology.

If self-entitled behavior was rare among the nouveau riche techies, then it wouldn't be such big news.

But this kind of "laws and common courtesy don't apply to me" behavior is pretty damn common. It says something about
Our society.
2014-04-26 03:34:59 PM  
1 votes:

notatrollorami: Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: SecretAgentWoman: Crowley should donate - VERY generously - to the charity Kathy Brown worked so hard raising money for - you know, unlike just trying to buy a bib with a fat check to a charity like his wife did.

Sure.  He's rich, right?  He should just buy his way out of trouble.

How is this a rich-hate thread? Oh, yeah, the headline appeals to rich-haters.

Under the specific set of circumstances (couldn't finish together last year thanks to the bombing, couldn't finagle a legit entry for her this year) I don't see how anyone can be really upset about printing a fake bib. Which does not require much money, BTW. Who was hurt and how exactly?

They fudged a bib, harmed no one, stole nothing (is someone pissed she breathed their air on the route?) and completed a treasured mutual goal they trained long and hard for.

If this makes your blood boil you may want to consider whether you're just kind of a dick.


So, you are saying that it is fair for thousands of people to abide by the rules, but if someone doesn't feel like abiding by those rules, that is ok because they are SPECIAL and rules don't apply to them?
2014-04-26 12:47:16 PM  
1 votes:
As someone who has organized races before, bandits are serious pain in the ass.

Many runners do not carry identification. RoadIDs and LifeAlert bands are great but not everyone has them. In big races, if something happens, race crews will look at the Bib Number and use the information provided at registration time (sometimes this is written on the back of the bib but it seems to be moving away from that as lots of runners never bothered with it). So if Bib #1234 has an emergency (heart attack, injury, etc), is that information correct? What happens when they get in touch with the Emergency Contact and find out that 'Hey, #1234 has been done for half an hour' or worse, "Oh god! What's happened?!'

As a runner, bandits annoy me because they are using up resources that my dollars paid for. Water, security, infrastructure, donuts for volunteers.

As a runner that would kill to get into Boston - bandits piss me off. Boston is not 'just some marathon'. It's Boston. You have to qualify for it. People work their whole running lives to get into it. When people talk about marathons, it's 'Is is a Boston qualifier?' And with the new qualifying rules, even if you do run fast enough, you might not get in because someone else might get the spot.

I've run 4 marathons in 14 years and haven't qualified for Boston. If I got in, I'd be over the moon. Someone who didn't qualify, who snagged another race number, and just waltzed in? Yeah ...
2014-04-26 12:46:56 PM  
1 votes:

brap: It wasn't that long ago that they would try to physically remove any woman that attempted to run the Boston Marathon.

http://www.makers.com/kathrine-switzer

I was amazed to learn that this happened in my lifetime in a country.


i.huffpost.com
2014-04-26 12:29:41 PM  
1 votes:

pla: She didn't "steal" someone else's number, she just used a fake random number to get past all the stupid BS security theater


The person who actually paid for the number and qualified for the race posted a photo of her posing in her bib, which allowed  several people to use it to make a copy. It wasn't random; she went looking for someone to steal from (as did some other, less newsworthy people).

As for the rest, you're not wrong, Walter...
2014-04-26 11:49:24 AM  
1 votes:

SomebodyElsesShoes: The really sad part is using the bombing last year to justify your stupid actions this year.


It's the east coast.  Everyone over there claims to be directly affected by every minor event.
2014-04-26 11:15:40 AM  
1 votes:

Cerebral Ballsy: ph0rk: Want to make "banditing" less common? Stop holding outdoor races in easily accessible places, dumbasses. Probably don't use such easily replicable bibs, either.

I thought about this, but "Massachusetts Countryside Marathon" just doesn't have the same ring to it.


Well, if paying runners won't go, you can at least assume that there will be fewer bandits.
2014-04-26 11:11:35 AM  
1 votes:

SomebodyElsesShoes: The really sad part is using the bombing last year to justify your stupid actions this year.


It was a douche apology.  He should have just shut up.

"I don't expect everyone to understand our strong need to run and finish together"

Asshole.
2014-04-26 11:09:52 AM  
1 votes:

Nogale: Cerebral Ballsy: WTF is it with these marathons? Too many people? Hold a second event the next weekend. Why all this craziness with limiting entries?

Better management is needed.

Also, who would have thought the creator of an app designed to track your movements and sell your habits and info to advertisers would have turned out to be a total dick?

OK, you know nothing about marathons. Do you have any idea of the logistics involved in holding an event in which 30,000+ people run over 26 miles through a major city? The Boston Athletic Association doesn't just set up a command center two weeks ahead of the marathon. They work year-round to handle the application processs, allocation of bib numbers, the charity running program, security and support along the route, and the timing. You can't just "hold another" marathon a week later.


Fark you Nogale. He said two Marathons! We want nothing to do with your reasonableness of logistics!
2014-04-26 11:05:23 AM  
1 votes:
Good thing they had tight security this year. Wouldn't want anyone out there that wasn't supposed to be.
2014-04-26 10:42:59 AM  
1 votes:

baufan2005: I see nothing wrong with what she did.


Hey, running around the city on public streets in a pack of thousands of people is an outrage.  An OUTRAGE!

/ using someone else's number isn't exactly classy
// but it's a "meh" at best & doesn't really warrant a news article
/// sorting out the photos of who is who should not take the rightful runner more than 30 seconds
2014-04-26 10:34:40 AM  
1 votes:

EvilEgg: That's what the first woman to run the Boston Marathon had to do, she was just honoring her.


No, you're wrong. First of all, Kathrine Switzer was not the first woman to run Boston. That was Roberta Gibb. Switzer was the first woman to run Boston wearing a number, for which she officially applied and paid. She was in no way a bandit.
2014-04-26 10:34:39 AM  
1 votes:
Could she be charged with trespassing?

Oh, I know she won't. She's much too rich for that. But hypothetically, if she were a commoner, would it be trespassing?
2014-04-26 10:34:26 AM  
1 votes:

SecretAgentWoman: Crowley should donate - VERY generously - to the charity Kathy Brown worked so hard raising money for - you know, unlike just trying to buy a bib with a fat check to a charity like his wife did.


Sure.  He's rich, right?  He should just buy his way out of trouble.
2014-04-26 09:55:17 AM  
1 votes:
That was dumb of you!

Mr. Crowley, what went on in your head?
 
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