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(Yahoo)   What do you do if your wife can't officially register to run the Boston Marathon? If you're the founder of Foursquare, you know "rules" don't apply to rich people, so you just steal someone else's number   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 145
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2014-04-26 07:18:26 AM  
I check my mail about once a month.  The grocery store ads are usually out of date by then, but the offers to extend my car warranty or purchase Dish TV service at an incredible bargain rate, are always welcome.
 
2014-04-26 07:26:45 AM  
well, that went to the wrong thread.
 
2014-04-26 07:57:07 AM  
That's what the first woman to run the Boston Marathon had to do, she was just honoring her.
 
2014-04-26 09:40:58 AM  
Let's see, no backpacks, meaning the veterans can't participate this year.

No unregistered participants, due to security concerns.

I think we can add "too rich to be considered a terrorist" to the list.
 
2014-04-26 09:50:11 AM  
Crowley should donate - VERY generously - to the charity Kathy Brown worked so hard raising money for - you know, unlike just trying to buy a bib with a fat check to a charity like his wife did.
 
2014-04-26 09:55:17 AM  
That was dumb of you!

Mr. Crowley, what went on in your head?
 
2014-04-26 10:31:53 AM  
And she also ran the Marathon as fast as Rosie Ruiz did.
 
2014-04-26 10:32:19 AM  

I_Am_Weasel: That was dumb of you!

Mr. Crowley, what went on in your head?


He should have tried to fool all the people with magic.
 
2014-04-26 10:34:26 AM  

SecretAgentWoman: Crowley should donate - VERY generously - to the charity Kathy Brown worked so hard raising money for - you know, unlike just trying to buy a bib with a fat check to a charity like his wife did.


Sure.  He's rich, right?  He should just buy his way out of trouble.
 
2014-04-26 10:34:39 AM  
Could she be charged with trespassing?

Oh, I know she won't. She's much too rich for that. But hypothetically, if she were a commoner, would it be trespassing?
 
2014-04-26 10:34:40 AM  

EvilEgg: That's what the first woman to run the Boston Marathon had to do, she was just honoring her.


No, you're wrong. First of all, Kathrine Switzer was not the first woman to run Boston. That was Roberta Gibb. Switzer was the first woman to run Boston wearing a number, for which she officially applied and paid. She was in no way a bandit.
 
2014-04-26 10:35:11 AM  
http://www.lunametrics.com/blog/2012/04/23/foursquare-check-ethics/#s r =d&m=n&cp=d&ct=-tmc&ts=1398522708

"So that's it. It's not hard. Now that you know the rules, at least according to the way Socrates thinks you won't cheat! I know better of course. But now when you cheat at least maybe, somewhere, in that dark evil heart of yours you'll feel guilty. Just a little bit."
 
2014-04-26 10:37:27 AM  
I see nothing wrong with what she did.
 
2014-04-26 10:39:58 AM  
I wonder how many people did this (or do this in other events)?  It must be -- if not common -- at least not without precedent.  After all, the fact that there's a term for it ("bandit") suggests it's been done before.

/ yes, yes -- the fact that she's probably wealthy amps the outrage up to 11
 
2014-04-26 10:41:48 AM  
Hipster dooufess smart ass marries cheap stupid bimbo~ette... a match made in hell... Yep, 4-Square is run by stupid smuckes, who deserve our fiercest FARK-IT-TRON scorn and ridicule!

img.fark.net
img.fark.net
img.fark.net
 
2014-04-26 10:42:59 AM  

baufan2005: I see nothing wrong with what she did.


Hey, running around the city on public streets in a pack of thousands of people is an outrage.  An OUTRAGE!

/ using someone else's number isn't exactly classy
// but it's a "meh" at best & doesn't really warrant a news article
/// sorting out the photos of who is who should not take the rightful runner more than 30 seconds
 
2014-04-26 10:45:10 AM  
They suck.
 
2014-04-26 10:45:56 AM  

I_Am_Weasel: That was dumb of you!

Mr. Crowley, what went on in your head?


"Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law?"
 
2014-04-26 10:46:29 AM  

jshine: I wonder how many people did this (or do this in other events)?  It must be -- if not common -- at least not without precedent.  After all, the fact that there's a term for it ("bandit") suggests it's been done before.

/ yes, yes -- the fact that she's probably wealthy amps the outrage up to 11


It's pretty typical because lots of marathons cap how many people can run and they have a lottery for who can get in. So it's not like people who really want to run just give up if they lose the lottery.

So I'm not excusing her, but it's certainly not the case that no one ever breaks the rules.
 
2014-04-26 10:46:37 AM  
Priorities.
 
2014-04-26 10:48:10 AM  
It wasn't that long ago that they would try to physically remove any woman that attempted to run the Boston Marathon.

http://www.makers.com/kathrine-switzer

I was amazed to learn that this happened in my lifetime in a country.
 
2014-04-26 10:48:13 AM  

jshine: I wonder how many people did this (or do this in other events)?  It must be -- if not common -- at least not without precedent.  After all, the fact that there's a term for it ("bandit") suggests it's been done before.

/ yes, yes -- the fact that she's probably wealthy amps the outrage up to 11


It is a nightmare for race directors, liability managers and folks who lose their rightful rank in their age group when a younger person poses as an older person and runs faster than the registered runner. Folks who run with no number are worse from a safety and liability perspective.
 
2014-04-26 10:49:03 AM  
the Wealthy steal all the time in 'murica. just ask Cliven Bundy.   they are smart enough and protected enough to rarely get caught.


steal tens of millions on wall street, get admiration.  steal 200 dollars from the convenience store, go to prison.


the fact that almost half of this nation's total wealth is owned by the richest 1% is further evidence of theft since, after all, we live in a 'Democratic Republic'.  wink.
 
2014-04-26 10:49:32 AM  

lethological_lassie: jshine: I wonder how many people did this (or do this in other events)?  It must be -- if not common -- at least not without precedent.  After all, the fact that there's a term for it ("bandit") suggests it's been done before.

/ yes, yes -- the fact that she's probably wealthy amps the outrage up to 11

It is a nightmare for race directors, liability managers and folks who lose their rightful rank in their age group when a younger person poses as an older person and runs faster than the registered runner. Folks who run with no number are worse from a safety and liability perspective.



Would be funny -- especially if the numbers are fairly long -- to use a number like "373A3".  At a glance, nothing is unusual, but there's no way it would screw up the statistics.  ;-)
 
2014-04-26 10:50:21 AM  
WTF is it with these marathons? Too many people? Hold a second event the next weekend. Why all this craziness with limiting entries?

Better management is needed.

Also, who would have thought the creator of an app designed to track your movements and sell your habits and info to advertisers would have turned out to be a total dick?
 
2014-04-26 10:50:25 AM  

serial_crusher: I check my mail about once a month.  The grocery store ads are usually out of date by then, but the offers to extend my car warranty or purchase Dish TV service at an incredible bargain rate, are always welcome.



Roku is your Friend.
 
2014-04-26 10:51:08 AM  

Primitive Screwhead: I_Am_Weasel: That was dumb of you!

Mr. Crowley, what went on in your head?

He should have tried to fool all the people with magic.


was it polemically sent?  I want to know what he meant.
 
2014-04-26 10:51:29 AM  

OtherLittleGuy: Let's see, no backpacks, meaning the veterans can't participate this year.

No unregistered participants, due to security concerns.

I think we can add "too rich to be considered a terrorist" to the list.



Affluenza is rampant.  course, its not spreading so the bottom 98% are safe.
 
2014-04-26 10:52:17 AM  

lethological_lassie: jshine: I wonder how many people did this (or do this in other events)?  It must be -- if not common -- at least not without precedent.  After all, the fact that there's a term for it ("bandit") suggests it's been done before.

/ yes, yes -- the fact that she's probably wealthy amps the outrage up to 11

It is a nightmare for race directors, liability managers and folks who lose their rightful rank in their age group when a younger person poses as an older person and runs faster than the registered runner. Folks who run with no number are worse from a safety and liability perspective.



Not to mention it's extra assholish to do it given the tragedy at last year's marathon.
 
2014-04-26 10:52:45 AM  
The really sad part is using the bombing last year to justify your stupid actions this year.
 
2014-04-26 10:55:45 AM  

Lokkii: http://www.lunametrics.com/blog/2012/04/23/foursquare-check-ethics/#s r =d&m=n&cp=d&ct=-tmc&ts=1398522708

"So that's it. It's not hard. Now that you know the rules, at least according to the way Socrates thinks you won't cheat! I know better of course. But now when you cheat at least maybe, somewhere, in that dark evil heart of yours you'll feel guilty. Just a little bit."


That was the spidest thing I've read this week. Jesus I hate Foursquare.
 
2014-04-26 10:56:24 AM  
*stupidest. Grumble grumble autocorrect
 
2014-04-26 10:58:03 AM  
Want to make "banditing" less common? Stop holding outdoor races in easily accessible places, dumbasses. Probably don't use such easily replicable bibs, either.
 
2014-04-26 10:58:53 AM  

Billy Bathsalt: I_Am_Weasel: That was dumb of you!

Mr. Crowley, what went on in your head?

"Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law?"


Until you violate the rights of another
Respect the space of your sister and your brother
 
2014-04-26 11:05:23 AM  
Good thing they had tight security this year. Wouldn't want anyone out there that wasn't supposed to be.
 
2014-04-26 11:07:05 AM  

SomebodyElsesShoes: The really sad part is using the bombing last year to justify your stupid actions this year.


That's exactly what I was thinking.  On a cooler note, I was walking down Beacon Street Monday night after it had been reopened, and there was a guy still heading towards the finish line. It was clear he had lost multiple limbs from last years event.  He and his guide had to have been on hour ten or eleven at this point.  My buddy and I gave him a high five and wished him well the rest of the way.
 
2014-04-26 11:07:24 AM  

baufan2005: I see nothing wrong with what she did.


His explanation is reasonable and their motives sincere.

Welcome to FarkTard®
 
2014-04-26 11:07:49 AM  

Cerebral Ballsy: WTF is it with these marathons? Too many people? Hold a second event the next weekend. Why all this craziness with limiting entries?

Better management is needed.

Also, who would have thought the creator of an app designed to track your movements and sell your habits and info to advertisers would have turned out to be a total dick?


OK, you know nothing about marathons. Do you have any idea of the logistics involved in holding an event in which 30,000+ people run over 26 miles through a major city? The Boston Athletic Association doesn't just set up a command center two weeks ahead of the marathon. They work year-round to handle the application processs, allocation of bib numbers, the charity running program, security and support along the route, and the timing. You can't just "hold another" marathon a week later.
 
2014-04-26 11:09:47 AM  

ph0rk: Want to make "banditing" less common? Stop holding outdoor races in easily accessible places, dumbasses. Probably don't use such easily replicable bibs, either.


I thought about this, but "Massachusetts Countryside Marathon" just doesn't have the same ring to it.
 
2014-04-26 11:09:52 AM  

Nogale: Cerebral Ballsy: WTF is it with these marathons? Too many people? Hold a second event the next weekend. Why all this craziness with limiting entries?

Better management is needed.

Also, who would have thought the creator of an app designed to track your movements and sell your habits and info to advertisers would have turned out to be a total dick?

OK, you know nothing about marathons. Do you have any idea of the logistics involved in holding an event in which 30,000+ people run over 26 miles through a major city? The Boston Athletic Association doesn't just set up a command center two weeks ahead of the marathon. They work year-round to handle the application processs, allocation of bib numbers, the charity running program, security and support along the route, and the timing. You can't just "hold another" marathon a week later.


Fark you Nogale. He said two Marathons! We want nothing to do with your reasonableness of logistics!
 
2014-04-26 11:11:12 AM  

Interceptor1: Good thing they had tight security this year. Wouldn't want anyone out there that wasn't supposed to be.



My cousin was working security at the marathon, so I'm really getting a kick out of these responses.

/Works at the FBI office in Boston.
//YRLY.
///Forgot how long we went without sleep, but they sent him home after it really started to show.
////Was asleep when they arrested "Dry Dock".
//Cool story bro.
 
2014-04-26 11:11:35 AM  

SomebodyElsesShoes: The really sad part is using the bombing last year to justify your stupid actions this year.


It was a douche apology.  He should have just shut up.

"I don't expect everyone to understand our strong need to run and finish together"

Asshole.
 
2014-04-26 11:11:42 AM  
There was another case of a Boston runner whose number was stolen after she posted it on Facebook - by FOUR different people.

This is apparently how this entitled biatch got a hold of her bib.

Keep personal information off social media, people.
 
2014-04-26 11:14:26 AM  

skinink: Nogale: Cerebral Ballsy: WTF is it with these marathons? Too many people? Hold a second event the next weekend. Why all this craziness with limiting entries?

Better management is needed.

Also, who would have thought the creator of an app designed to track your movements and sell your habits and info to advertisers would have turned out to be a total dick?

OK, you know nothing about marathons. Do you have any idea of the logistics involved in holding an event in which 30,000+ people run over 26 miles through a major city? The Boston Athletic Association doesn't just set up a command center two weeks ahead of the marathon. They work year-round to handle the application processs, allocation of bib numbers, the charity running program, security and support along the route, and the timing. You can't just "hold another" marathon a week later.

Fark you Nogale. He said two Marathons! We want nothing to do with your reasonableness of logistics!


Bostonian-like typing detected.
 
2014-04-26 11:15:38 AM  

skinink: Nogale: Cerebral Ballsy: WTF is it with these marathons? Too many people? Hold a second event the next weekend. Why all this craziness with limiting entries?

Better management is needed.

Also, who would have thought the creator of an app designed to track your movements and sell your habits and info to advertisers would have turned out to be a total dick?

OK, you know nothing about marathons. Do you have any idea of the logistics involved in holding an event in which 30,000+ people run over 26 miles through a major city? The Boston Athletic Association doesn't just set up a command center two weeks ahead of the marathon. They work year-round to handle the application processs, allocation of bib numbers, the charity running program, security and support along the route, and the timing. You can't just "hold another" marathon a week later.

Fark you Nogale. He said two Marathons! We want nothing to do with your reasonableness of logistics!


Well I know a bit about races, having competed a bunch of times. But I know nothing of organizing them or even running them in giant cities. How about not having them go through downtown? No?

fark it then, Nogale's right, the current clusterfark is working just fine.
 
2014-04-26 11:15:40 AM  

Cerebral Ballsy: ph0rk: Want to make "banditing" less common? Stop holding outdoor races in easily accessible places, dumbasses. Probably don't use such easily replicable bibs, either.

I thought about this, but "Massachusetts Countryside Marathon" just doesn't have the same ring to it.


Well, if paying runners won't go, you can at least assume that there will be fewer bandits.
 
2014-04-26 11:15:42 AM  
How the fark do you go out of business when you loan someone $100 and they typically end up paying you back $300?

At that rate, you could have a 50% flake out rate and still make money.
 
2014-04-26 11:15:48 AM  

Nogale: There was another case of a Boston runner whose number was stolen after she posted it on Facebook - by FOUR different people.

This is apparently how this entitled biatch got a hold of her bib.

Keep personal information off social media, people.




Including Fark?
 
2014-04-26 11:16:20 AM  
Boston Strong morphed into Boston Stupid.
 
2014-04-26 11:17:37 AM  
Well #Richbiatch can't even apologize for herself...

https://medium.com/p/a83fd5b771a8
 
2014-04-26 11:19:21 AM  

"fark it then, Nogale's right, the current clusterfark is working just fine."


Just curious, how is it a clusterfark? Did I miss the stories about this year's Marathon which stated it was a disaster? The Boston Marathon is one of the most important marathons in the world.

 
2014-04-26 11:24:43 AM  
Douchebag Rich Guy: "Yes, using a duplicate number to get Chelsa into the starting corral with me was wrong," Dennis wrote. "I don't expect everyone to understand our strong need to run and finish together"

F*ck You. Your "strong need" excuse is bunk.

Again, F*ck! You!
 
2014-04-26 11:29:44 AM  

eriklou: Well #Richbiatch can't even apologize for herself...

https://medium.com/p/a83fd5b771a8


He likes unemployment? I'll bet h's never even had a job to be unemployed from. Unless you consider being a scammer a Job... But that would probably seem "Dirty" to him- A Job.
 
2014-04-26 11:32:24 AM  
According to the , he and Chelsa were running the marathon together in 2013 but were separated before the bombs went off. Chelsa made it across the finish line moments before the first bomb exploded

When will this whole "I got to get my Boston marathon bombing story out there for people to hear" bs come to an end?
 
2014-04-26 11:36:05 AM  

Nogale: OK, you know nothing about marathons. Do you have any idea of the logistics involved in holding an event in which 30,000+ people run over 26 miles through a major city? The Boston Athletic Association doesn't just set up a command center two weeks ahead of the marathon. They work year-round to handle the application processs, allocation of bib numbers, the charity running program, security and support along the route, and the timing. You can't just "hold another" marathon a week later.



Actually you could so a second race the next day or the next weekend with very little change to infrastructure: Example: the two Coachellas on the second and third weekends in April followed by Stagecoach on the fourth weekend (which is happening right now.) They all share the same venue and the two Coachellas are almost identical. Maybe Boston Athletic Association should consider a feeder event on Sunday.
 
2014-04-26 11:42:34 AM  

SomebodyElsesShoes: The really sad part is using the bombing last year to justify your stupid actions this year.


Yeah, that was like a hefty dollop of douche-topping for his shiathead pie.

When are people going to learn - when apologizing, make an  apology.  Not an epicly lame douchtastic  attempt at an excuse and self-pity.
 
2014-04-26 11:42:44 AM  

skinink: "fark it then, Nogale's right, the current clusterfark is working just fine."
Just curious, how is it a clusterfark? Did I miss the stories about this year's Marathon which stated it was a disaster? The Boston Marathon is one of the most important marathons in the world.


I said clusterfark, not disaster. And people stealing numbers and getting away with it is a clusterfark. What if one of those people wins a category?
 
2014-04-26 11:43:02 AM  

eriklou: Well #Richbiatch can't even apologize for herself...

https://medium.com/p/a83fd5b771a8


OMG - How can he not understand that he's making it worse?  Jesus - shut up!

Whatever the situation, apparently the answer is to stand in the spotlight and explain to the rest of us how we just aren't enlightened enough to understand the uberclass.
 
2014-04-26 11:45:40 AM  

RastaKins: Nogale: OK, you know nothing about marathons. Do you have any idea of the logistics involved in holding an event in which 30,000+ people run over 26 miles through a major city? The Boston Athletic Association doesn't just set up a command center two weeks ahead of the marathon. They work year-round to handle the application processs, allocation of bib numbers, the charity running program, security and support along the route, and the timing. You can't just "hold another" marathon a week later.


Actually you could so a second race the next day or the next weekend with very little change to infrastructure: Example: the two Coachellas on the second and third weekends in April followed by Stagecoach on the fourth weekend (which is happening right now.) They all share the same venue and the two Coachellas are almost identical. Maybe Boston Athletic Association should consider a feeder event on Sunday.


Just an FYI, the Marathon as far as I can remember has been run on a Monday, State holiday Patriot's Day. It's a 26.6 mile course that runs through a lot of town and roads, roads shut down for the Marathon. Not to mention that once the runners hit Boston major streets are closed down, Kenmore Square (a major though way) is also closed down and a good part of Boylston Street in the heart of Boston. No farking way they do the exact same thing, even on a weekend day. You can't even compare Coachella to the Marathon. How many other towns have to close things down for Coachella?
 
2014-04-26 11:49:24 AM  

SomebodyElsesShoes: The really sad part is using the bombing last year to justify your stupid actions this year.


It's the east coast.  Everyone over there claims to be directly affected by every minor event.
 
2014-04-26 11:49:28 AM  

Swampmaster: dooufess  bimbo~ette  smuckes


Say what?
 
2014-04-26 11:50:22 AM  
So basically: "Yeah we knew it was wrong, but we really wanted to do it so..."
 
2014-04-26 11:55:06 AM  
Vermin people are vermin.

I'm sure this guy and his wife won't mind if people just pirate his reviews from his website.
 
2014-04-26 11:57:31 AM  
It's... just a race? I really don't get it. Is it that hard to get into the marathon? How many applicants are there per spot?
 
2014-04-26 11:58:10 AM  

ThrobblefootSpectre: SomebodyElsesShoes: The really sad part is using the bombing last year to justify your stupid actions this year.

Yeah, that was like a hefty dollop of douche-topping for his shiathead pie.

When are people going to learn - when apologizing, make an  apology.  Not an epicly lame douchtastic  attempt at an excuse and self-pity.


Seriously....apologies used to mean something.
 
2014-04-26 11:59:01 AM  

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: SecretAgentWoman: Crowley should donate - VERY generously - to the charity Kathy Brown worked so hard raising money for - you know, unlike just trying to buy a bib with a fat check to a charity like his wife did.

Sure.  He's rich, right?  He should just buy his way out of trouble.


The easy way would have been to run it next year. But I guess their whining and crying didn't get their way so I guess it's reasonable to resort to cheating. I guess his little Internet service is fair game now. Seems reasonable.
 
2014-04-26 12:01:45 PM  
Dennis wrote. "I don't expect everyone to understand our strong need to run and finish together"


Well I have a strong need to rob a bank and drive the wrong way down freeway, doesn't mean it isn't against the goddamn law and wrong so you don't get to do it, farking shtstick!

I sure as F hope this jerk breaks out the checkbook, because I read the entire article, and it didn't really sound like he was apologizing.
 
2014-04-26 12:07:24 PM  
 FTA: "Our intent was never to 'steal' anything from anyone -- "

Here is an easy solution to that.

DON'T DO EXACTLY WHAT YOU DID.
 
2014-04-26 12:08:05 PM  

Texas Gabe: Billy Bathsalt: I_Am_Weasel: That was dumb of you!

Mr. Crowley, what went on in your head?

"Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law?"

Until you violate the rights of another
Respect the space of your sister and your brother


 "Love is the Law, Love under will"

/Some people just can't handle the Love.
/ozzy rocks
/slashies come in threes
 
2014-04-26 12:08:09 PM  

ZzeusS: Dennis wrote. "I don't expect everyone to understand our strong need to run and finish together"


Well I have a strong need to rob a bank and drive the wrong way down freeway, doesn't mean it isn't against the goddamn law and wrong so you don't get to do it, farking shtstick!

I sure as F hope this jerk breaks out the checkbook, because I read the entire article, and it didn't really sound like he was apologizing.


So, this was stupid and all that, but comparing it to robbing a bank is more than a little silly.

What actual harm occurred here? The real girl had to take 30 seconds to sort which pictures were her... and what else?

I will admit to only skimming the article, so if there was real harm sorry for missing it.
 
2014-04-26 12:16:42 PM  
"I don't expect everyone to understand our strong need to run and finish together."

Apparently this need wasn't strong enough to follow the simple, straightforward requirements that 30,000 other people followed. Nice non-apology, douche.
 
2014-04-26 12:16:43 PM  
Banditing wouldn't even be a thing if these events joined the 21st century and allowed bib transfers up to the gun.

Not hard to have laptops near the start with access to the official DB of runners, take bib and ID, updated Bib info, done.

/Got injured 3 weeks before a 10k
//Friend couldn't get into the same 10k but reg'd at another he had to fly too
///was easier to cancel plane tickets and hotel reservation then to switch my bib to him
 
2014-04-26 12:17:25 PM  

Linux_Yes: the Wealthy steal all the time in 'murica. just ask Cliven Bundy.   they are smart enough and protected enough to rarely get caught.


steal tens of millions on wall street, get admiration.  steal 200 dollars from the convenience store, go to prison.


the fact that almost half of this nation's total wealth is owned by the richest 1% is further evidence of theft since, after all, we live in a 'Democratic Republic'.  wink.


Yeah, just HOW did Harry Reid get so rich?  Or Al Gore?
 
2014-04-26 12:17:57 PM  
Also did anyone else pick up that douchebag admitted his wife kicked his ass last year?
 
pla
2014-04-26 12:18:44 PM  
This seems counter to the running sentiment here so far, but...

So what?  She went for a run, on public roads they annoyingly close down every year (greatly pissing off many of the locals, street-vendors obviously excluded) as someone who couldn't officially win.  She didn't "steal" someone else's number, she just used a fake random number to get past all the stupid BS security theater (which her running pretty much proves as just theater, for those who will protest that last year's events justify the new rules).

The only real "problem" I see here, she couldn't just legitimately register and run the damned thing with her husband.  Get over yourself, Boston.  You ain't the IOC (and shouldn't try to emulate those corrupt worthless bastards).
 
pla
2014-04-26 12:23:00 PM  
WayToBlue : What actual harm occurred here? The real girl had to take 30 seconds to sort which pictures were her... and what else?

But but but... The 1%, Wharrgarbl!
 
2014-04-26 12:23:42 PM  
If anyone's especially angry because of the class-privilege aspect here, let me just remind you that he's the founder of Foursquare. You know, that app you downloaded three years ago, used for half a week, and then forgot about?

I'm just saying, if this behavior is the result of the rich thinking they can get away with anything, it may not be a permanent state of affairs for them.
 
2014-04-26 12:29:41 PM  

pla: She didn't "steal" someone else's number, she just used a fake random number to get past all the stupid BS security theater


The person who actually paid for the number and qualified for the race posted a photo of her posing in her bib, which allowed  several people to use it to make a copy. It wasn't random; she went looking for someone to steal from (as did some other, less newsworthy people).

As for the rest, you're not wrong, Walter...
 
2014-04-26 12:34:32 PM  
Just bandit that sucker. Numbers are easy eniugh to fake. You dont get s chip time, but so whst?
 
2014-04-26 12:35:42 PM  
We tried to play by the rules, but that didn't give us what we wanted. Common people can't understand the passion of people at our level. I think what you want is for me to say that I'm sorry my wife screwed up. She is sorry. Again, we don't expect you to understand.
 
2014-04-26 12:39:22 PM  

WayToBlue: ZzeusS: Dennis wrote. "I don't expect everyone to understand our strong need to run and finish together"


Well I have a strong need to rob a bank and drive the wrong way down freeway, doesn't mean it isn't against the goddamn law and wrong so you don't get to do it, farking shtstick!

I sure as F hope this jerk breaks out the checkbook, because I read the entire article, and it didn't really sound like he was apologizing.

So, this was stupid and all that, but comparing it to robbing a bank is more than a little silly.

What actual harm occurred here? The real girl had to take 30 seconds to sort which pictures were her... and what else?

I will admit to only skimming the article, so if there was real harm sorry for missing it.



The harm is not moral equivalency of which is more wrong.

The harm is Scumbaggins And Co. had an overwintered sense of self worth and gave 1/4 of an apology.  "I'm sorry you were offended by my actions.".

Most other normal-thinking people would have said 'Honey, I'm sorry we can't run together this year.  Let's shoot for next year.  Pizza?'  and moved on with their lives.

Affulenza needs to be called out.  The race manages have a registration and tracking system in place for a reason.  If you don't get to do it legally, then you don't get to do it.
 
pla
2014-04-26 12:43:47 PM  
Dear Jerk : Common people can't understand the passion of people at our level.

Remind me again - Of the large number of people who used that same number, how many belong to the 1%?  Quit trying to bring class warfare into everything - We have plenty of reasons to put the bankers up against the wall when the time comes, no need to rage over someone going for an illegal jog.


semiotix: As for the rest, you're not wrong, Walter...

The fact that I don't think a city should have the right to close public roads to the public unless they pay "extra" to "register" makes me an arsehole?

/ I can live with that.
// Do I get an official t-shirt?
 
2014-04-26 12:44:08 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: Linux_Yes: the Wealthy steal all the time in 'murica. just ask Cliven Bundy.   they are smart enough and protected enough to rarely get caught.


steal tens of millions on wall street, get admiration.  steal 200 dollars from the convenience store, go to prison.


the fact that almost half of this nation's total wealth is owned by the richest 1% is further evidence of theft since, after all, we live in a 'Democratic Republic'.  wink.

Yeah, just HOW did Harry Reid get so rich?  Or Al Gore?



maybe the Koch brothers could tell you.  or bushie boy and his buddies in saudi arabia.  or perhaps, sheldon adelson, the republican billionaire who makes his money from casinos in communist (according to CIA.gov) china. he loves feeding your buddies in the republican party.

you are too easy.  run along, now.
 
2014-04-26 12:44:50 PM  

pla: This seems counter to the running sentiment here so far, but...

So what?  She went for a run, on public roads they annoyingly close down every year (greatly pissing off many of the locals, street-vendors obviously excluded) as someone who couldn't officially win.  She didn't "steal" someone else's number, she just used a fake random number to get past all the stupid BS security theater (which her running pretty much proves as just theater, for those who will protest that last year's events justify the new rules).

The only real "problem" I see here, she couldn't just legitimately register and run the damned thing with her husband.  Get over yourself, Boston.  You ain't the IOC (and shouldn't try to emulate those corrupt worthless bastards).


Hey, great idea. Maybe that Bundy dude can just graze his cattle on Boston Common since they're giving him such a hard time out in Nevada. After all, it's a public space, right?
 
2014-04-26 12:46:56 PM  

brap: It wasn't that long ago that they would try to physically remove any woman that attempted to run the Boston Marathon.

http://www.makers.com/kathrine-switzer

I was amazed to learn that this happened in my lifetime in a country.


i.huffpost.com
 
2014-04-26 12:47:16 PM  
As someone who has organized races before, bandits are serious pain in the ass.

Many runners do not carry identification. RoadIDs and LifeAlert bands are great but not everyone has them. In big races, if something happens, race crews will look at the Bib Number and use the information provided at registration time (sometimes this is written on the back of the bib but it seems to be moving away from that as lots of runners never bothered with it). So if Bib #1234 has an emergency (heart attack, injury, etc), is that information correct? What happens when they get in touch with the Emergency Contact and find out that 'Hey, #1234 has been done for half an hour' or worse, "Oh god! What's happened?!'

As a runner, bandits annoy me because they are using up resources that my dollars paid for. Water, security, infrastructure, donuts for volunteers.

As a runner that would kill to get into Boston - bandits piss me off. Boston is not 'just some marathon'. It's Boston. You have to qualify for it. People work their whole running lives to get into it. When people talk about marathons, it's 'Is is a Boston qualifier?' And with the new qualifying rules, even if you do run fast enough, you might not get in because someone else might get the spot.

I've run 4 marathons in 14 years and haven't qualified for Boston. If I got in, I'd be over the moon. Someone who didn't qualify, who snagged another race number, and just waltzed in? Yeah ...
 
2014-04-26 12:48:03 PM  

ZzeusS: WayToBlue: ZzeusS: Dennis wrote. "I don't expect everyone to understand our strong need to run and finish together"


Well I have a strong need to rob a bank and drive the wrong way down freeway, doesn't mean it isn't against the goddamn law and wrong so you don't get to do it, farking shtstick!

I sure as F hope this jerk breaks out the checkbook, because I read the entire article, and it didn't really sound like he was apologizing.

So, this was stupid and all that, but comparing it to robbing a bank is more than a little silly.

What actual harm occurred here? The real girl had to take 30 seconds to sort which pictures were her... and what else?

I will admit to only skimming the article, so if there was real harm sorry for missing it.


The harm is not moral equivalency of which is more wrong.

The harm is Scumbaggins And Co. had an overwintered sense of self worth and gave 1/4 of an apology.  "I'm sorry you were offended by my actions.".

Most other normal-thinking people would have said 'Honey, I'm sorry we can't run together this year.  Let's shoot for next year.  Pizza?'  and moved on with their lives.

Affulenza needs to be called out.  The race manages have a registration and tracking system in place for a reason.  If you don't get to do it legally, then you don't get to do it.


So long story short, no actual harm, just poutrage. Got it.
 
2014-04-26 12:48:54 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: Linux_Yes: the Wealthy steal all the time in 'murica. just ask Cliven Bundy.   they are smart enough and protected enough to rarely get caught.


steal tens of millions on wall street, get admiration.  steal 200 dollars from the convenience store, go to prison.


the fact that almost half of this nation's total wealth is owned by the richest 1% is further evidence of theft since, after all, we live in a 'Democratic Republic'.  wink.

Yeah, just HOW did Harry Reid get so rich?  Or Al Gore?



did i mention bin laden got all his millions from family in saudi arabia??  i'm sure i did.

enjoy the Republican loss once again in the Presidential election of 2016.  i know i will.
 
2014-04-26 12:54:50 PM  

noitsnot: SomebodyElsesShoes: The really sad part is using the bombing last year to justify your stupid actions this year.

It was a douche apology.  He should have just shut up.

"I don't expect everyone to understand our strong need to run and finish together"

Asshole.


Yep. The most important thing is their needs. Nothing else matters.
 
2014-04-26 12:56:30 PM  
Consequences are for poor people.
 
2014-04-26 12:57:07 PM  

Fuggin Bizzy: noitsnot: SomebodyElsesShoes: The really sad part is using the bombing last year to justify your stupid actions this year.

It was a douche apology.  He should have just shut up.

"I don't expect everyone to understand our strong need to run and finish together"

Asshole.

Yep. The most important thing is their needs. Nothing else matters.



he also doesn't understand why the bottom 98% gets pissed off when he and his ilk buy our Legislators.
 
2014-04-26 01:03:51 PM  
What people don't seem to realize is that the Boston Marathon is the SUPERBOWL of marathons. You just can't get it, you have to QUALIFY. Meaning you need to run another marathon that's an official qualifier with an appropriate time for your age. I would have to cut my last time in HALF to qualify. You train almost DAILY for it.
So to take another's number is a serious deal.
 
2014-04-26 01:09:43 PM  
I remember shiat like this happening once. I didn't give a shiat about that either. I'd provide you with the details, but I frankly tend to forget shiat that doesn't matter.

There's no rage like manufactured outrage. The very idea that people I will never meet did shiat that has no effect whatsoever on anything has me completely giving not one big steaming shiat. And get this, all they said when cornered by a bunch of sanctimonious twats was "shiat happens, my bad".


/ shiat
 
2014-04-26 01:12:17 PM  

pla: semiotix: As for the rest, you're not wrong, Walter...

The fact that I don't think a city should have the right to close public roads to the public unless they pay "extra" to "register" makes me an arsehole?

/ I can live with that.
// Do I get an official t-shirt?


No, that's not what does it. Although I don't think you actually believe that all potential public spaces and services should be available to all people at all times. (Or even roads.)

As for the t-shirt, it's in the mail. It reads "I qualified for the 2014 Boston Marathon and all I got for my $175 entry fee was this lousy t-shirt." Then it's got a bunch of logos and stuff to make it look legit.
 
2014-04-26 01:23:24 PM  
The answer is obviously to go electronic.  Bar codes/QR codes to get into the starting area, authentication stickers if need be, just make it as hard as possible to bandit.  As stated above by a few runners, you don't just get into Boston.  Bandits are a legal liability to the BAA.  They can cause overcrowding, accidents to legal runners, and if the bandits get hurt, then BAA is on the hook for medical care for an uninsured runner.  Sure they'll eventually get paid, but they're on the hook, tying up charity monies and money for non-volunteer workers (police, EMS, etc.).
 
2014-04-26 01:25:46 PM  

thornhill: So I'm not excusing her, but it's certainly not the case that no one ever breaks the rules.


Sorry.. yes. You are excusing her. You are implying that that fact that it is not uncommon mitigates the seriousness of what these two douchlettes did.

And WTF kind of apology is 'Hey, I'm sorry.. but we really wanted this.'??

I'd like to see some poor black due in front of a judge for shoplifting try the "but it was really important to me" line.
 
2014-04-26 01:31:00 PM  

letrole: I remember shiat like this happening once. I didn't give a shiat about that either. I'd provide you with the details, but I frankly tend to forget shiat that doesn't matter.

There's no rage like manufactured outrage. The very idea that people I will never meet did shiat that has no effect whatsoever on anything has me completely giving not one big steaming shiat. And get this, all they said when cornered by a bunch of sanctimonious twats was "shiat happens, my bad".


/ shiat


It's truly awesome how much you don't care. Puddin' Pop?
 
2014-04-26 01:35:03 PM  
Disgusting person.
 
2014-04-26 01:36:05 PM  

RassilonsExWife: thornhill: So I'm not excusing her, but it's certainly not the case that no one ever breaks the rules.

Sorry.. yes. You are excusing her. You are implying that that fact that it is not uncommon mitigates the seriousness of what these two douchlettes did.

And WTF kind of apology is 'Hey, I'm sorry.. but we really wanted this.'??

I'd like to see some poor black due in front of a judge for shoplifting try the "but it was really important to me" line.


No. I'm just pointing out that this happens all of the time, and it's only getting media attention because somebody rich did it.
 
2014-04-26 01:46:48 PM  
Private capital tends to become concentrated in few hands, partly because of competition among the capitalists, and partly because technological development and the increasing division of labor encourage the formation of larger units of production at the expense of the smaller ones. The result of these developments is an oligarchy of private capital the enormous power of which cannot be effectively checked even by a democratically organised political society. This is true since the members of legislative bodies are selected by political parties, largely financed or otherwise influenced by private capitalists who, for all practical purposes, separate the electorate from the legislature. The consequence is that the representatives of the people do not in fact sufficiently protect the interests of the underprivileged sections of the population. Moreover, under existing conditions, private capitalists inevitably control, directly or indirectly, the main sources of information (press, radio, education). It is thus extremely difficult, and indeed in most cases quite impossible, for the individual citizen to come to objective conclusions and to make intelligent use of his political rights. (Albert Einstein, 1949)
 
2014-04-26 02:01:09 PM  

pla: This seems counter to the running sentiment here so far, but...

So what?  She went for a run, on public roads they annoyingly close down every year (greatly pissing off many of the locals, street-vendors obviously excluded) as someone who couldn't officially win.  She didn't "steal" someone else's number, she just used a fake random number to get past all the stupid BS security theater (which her running pretty much proves as just theater, for those who will protest that last year's events justify the new rules).

The only real "problem" I see here, she couldn't just legitimately register and run the damned thing with her husband.  Get over yourself, Boston.  You ain't the IOC (and shouldn't try to emulate those corrupt worthless bastards).


You're right.

The real issue is that the marathons utilize public infrastructure and tax dollars, and yet, not everyone gets to run. And the charity sponsorship registration favors affluent people -- the minimums can be up to $7,500.

I'm not sure what the solution is, but clearly supply needs to somehow be increased in order to accommodate the high demand.
 
2014-04-26 02:04:04 PM  

FriarReb98: The answer is obviously to go electronic.  Bar codes/QR codes to get into the starting area, authentication stickers if need be, just make it as hard as possible to bandit.  As stated above by a few runners, you don't just get into Boston.  Bandits are a legal liability to the BAA.  They can cause overcrowding, accidents to legal runners, and if the bandits get hurt, then BAA is on the hook for medical care for an uninsured runner.  Sure they'll eventually get paid, but they're on the hook, tying up charity monies and money for non-volunteer workers (police, EMS, etc.).


It's electronic already. Every number has a timing chip on the back. If they added readers to the corral entrances, they could weed out the bandits. However, we are talking about A LOT of runners to check. It wouldn't be trivial. The timing chip could be faked, I'm sure, but it would be a harder than printing a number.

Bandits are bad. Counterfeiting numbers is really, really bad. I don't have much of a problem with "illegal" number transfer - there are legitimate concerns but at least you aren't stealing anything from the race organizers and your fellow participants. Anyone who can run a marathon is a runner. It amazes me that these people have so little respect for their fellow athletes.
 
2014-04-26 02:22:11 PM  

DrBenway: It's truly awesome how much you don't care. Puddin' Pop?


But I do care. I cannot pass by an earthworm on the pavement after a rain shower -- I must stop and pick him up and toss him on the grass where he won't get trod upon or dry out. It's up to him what does after that point, but I've done my part. I care about many things.


Just not this shiat.
 
2014-04-26 02:25:06 PM  
Say hell-o to the mans Facebook and get to read the people he owns to write there defensive comment about how great Dennis Crowley is!https://www.facebook.com/dens
 
2014-04-26 02:25:13 PM  

fanbladesaresharp: The easy way would have been to run it next year. But I guess their whining and crying didn't get their way so I guess it's reasonable to resort to cheating. I guess his little Internet service is fair game now. Seems reasonable.


Actually, the easy way to get into Boston is to raise $5K for a charity.  Unfortunately, the founder of Foursquare either doesn't have enough friends to raise that much cash, or can't find that much cash in his wallet to make get in with a charity.
The only other way to get into Boston is to work very hard, run very fast, and get in with a qualifying time.

Obviously, asking a rich person to pay or work hard is against all proprieties.
 
2014-04-26 02:29:34 PM  
I know you all just read about Kathrine Switzer for the first time this week, I did too, but that still doesn't mean this has anything to do with her.
 
2014-04-26 02:40:17 PM  

TV's Vinnie: Douchebag Rich Guy: "Yes, using a duplicate number to get Chelsa into the starting corral with me was wrong," Dennis wrote. "I don't expect everyone to understand our strong need to run and finish together"

F*ck You. Your "strong need" excuse is bunk.

Again, F*ck! You!

 
2014-04-26 02:41:08 PM  

Jument: Bandits are bad. Counterfeiting numbers is really, really bad.



No dear, using lame arguments of moral equivalence is very bad. Want to see one?

It's amusing how many of the posters here, ranting and raving about storming the palace and killing the Romanovs can't decide if they're in favour of copying data or not. On other threads, these same goobers see nothing wrong with bypassing copyright, and cheating the hard-working artists and labels out of sales -- sales that they expected to see after they spent money for advertising and production. But they didn't deprive anyone of property, they just made copies, and copies are just as good and should be free. The owner still has all they ever had, you fascist pig.


Actually, it's not a bad argument to run out there. I just don't feel like wasting my efforts on this one.
 
2014-04-26 02:44:17 PM  

maddogdelta: fanbladesaresharp: The easy way would have been to run it next year. But I guess their whining and crying didn't get their way so I guess it's reasonable to resort to cheating. I guess his little Internet service is fair game now. Seems reasonable.

Actually, the easy way to get into Boston is to raise $5K for a charity.  Unfortunately, the founder of Foursquare either doesn't have enough friends to raise that much cash, or can't find that much cash in his wallet to make get in with a charity.
The only other way to get into Boston is to work very hard, run very fast, and get in with a qualifying time.

Obviously, asking a rich person to pay or work hard is against all proprieties.


but they had a "strong need"!

or perhaps a strong want.

anyway, they are rich so anyone who disagrees with their actions can just sit down and stfu. What's the use in owning the country if you can not run the country?
 
2014-04-26 02:46:06 PM  

Cerebral Ballsy: Lokkii: http://www.lunametrics.com/blog/2012/04/23/foursquare-check-ethics/#s r =d&m=n&cp=d&ct=-tmc&ts=1398522708

"So that's it. It's not hard. Now that you know the rules, at least according to the way Socrates thinks you won't cheat! I know better of course. But now when you cheat at least maybe, somewhere, in that dark evil heart of yours you'll feel guilty. Just a little bit."

That was the spidest thing I've read this week. Jesus I hate Foursquare.


I bet we can find something even spidier before the day is out, if you like.
 
2014-04-26 02:57:02 PM  

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: SecretAgentWoman: Crowley should donate - VERY generously - to the charity Kathy Brown worked so hard raising money for - you know, unlike just trying to buy a bib with a fat check to a charity like his wife did.

Sure.  He's rich, right?  He should just buy his way out of trouble.


How is this a rich-hate thread? Oh, yeah, the headline appeals to rich-haters.

Under the specific set of circumstances (couldn't finish together last year thanks to the bombing, couldn't finagle a legit entry for her this year) I don't see how anyone can be really upset about printing a fake bib. Which does not require much money, BTW. Who was hurt and how exactly?

They fudged a bib, harmed no one, stole nothing (is someone pissed she breathed their air on the route?) and completed a treasured mutual goal they trained long and hard for.

If this makes your blood boil you may want to consider whether you're just kind of a dick.
 
2014-04-26 03:00:55 PM  

Linux_Yes: Smeggy Smurf: Linux_Yes: the Wealthy steal all the time in 'murica. just ask Cliven Bundy.   they are smart enough and protected enough to rarely get caught.


steal tens of millions on wall street, get admiration.  steal 200 dollars from the convenience store, go to prison.


the fact that almost half of this nation's total wealth is owned by the richest 1% is further evidence of theft since, after all, we live in a 'Democratic Republic'.  wink.

Yeah, just HOW did Harry Reid get so rich?  Or Al Gore?


maybe the Koch brothers could tell you.  or bushie boy and his buddies in saudi arabia.  or perhaps, sheldon adelson, the republican billionaire who makes his money from casinos in communist (according to CIA.gov) china. he loves feeding your buddies in the republican party.

you are too easy.  run along, now.


Ask Soros AND the Kochs and let's compare their answers. If anyone believes that there is a real difference between the Pelosis, the Bushes, the Gores, and any other group of rich wankers, they are being played. Most of this nonsense is "something shiny" to keep the proles like you and me arguing with each other while the plutocrats stack the deck in their own favor. Eventually there will be a fortified wall around the DC Beltway guarded by a Brigade of Ghurkas to maintain order and keep the likes of you out. The only real difference between the Republicans and the Democrats is that one will allow you to own a revolver, and the other will cheerfully permit your daughter to have an abortion.
 
2014-04-26 03:03:59 PM  

thornhill: pla: This seems counter to the running sentiment here so far, but...

So what?  She went for a run, on public roads they annoyingly close down every year (greatly pissing off many of the locals, street-vendors obviously excluded) as someone who couldn't officially win.  She didn't "steal" someone else's number, she just used a fake random number to get past all the stupid BS security theater (which her running pretty much proves as just theater, for those who will protest that last year's events justify the new rules).

The only real "problem" I see here, she couldn't just legitimately register and run the damned thing with her husband.  Get over yourself, Boston.  You ain't the IOC (and shouldn't try to emulate those corrupt worthless bastards).

You're right.

The real issue is that the marathons utilize public infrastructure and tax dollars, and yet, not everyone gets to run. And the charity sponsorship registration favors affluent people -- the minimums can be up to $7,500.

I'm not sure what the solution is, but clearly supply needs to somehow be increased in order to accommodate the high demand.


My daughter-in-law ran in 2009 as a charity runner, while she was a broke college student. She's a very smart girl and raised $14000 for her charity, attended school @ Tufts full time, worked & trained for the race. The charity program isn't just for rich a-holes to get around BQ times.
 
2014-04-26 03:09:39 PM  

Fusilier: Ask Soros AND the Kochs and let's compare their answers. If anyone believes that there is a real difference between the Pelosis, the Bushes, the Gores, and any other group of rich wankers, they are being played. Most of this nonsense is "something shiny" to keep the proles like you and me arguing with each other while the plutocrats stack the deck in their own favor. Eventually there will be a fortified wall around the DC Beltway guarded by a Brigade of Ghurkas to maintain order and keep the likes of you out. The only real difference between the Republicans and the Democrats is that one will allow you to own a revolver, and the other will cheerfully permit your daughter to have an abortion.


Needs more sheeple.
 
2014-04-26 03:18:35 PM  

mahughe: As someone who has organized races before, bandits are serious pain in the ass.

Many runners do not carry identification. RoadIDs and LifeAlert bands are great but not everyone has them. In big races, if something happens, race crews will look at the Bib Number and use the information provided at registration time (sometimes this is written on the back of the bib but it seems to be moving away from that as lots of runners never bothered with it). So if Bib #1234 has an emergency (heart attack, injury, etc), is that information correct? What happens when they get in touch with the Emergency Contact and find out that 'Hey, #1234 has been done for half an hour' or worse, "Oh god! What's happened?!'

As a runner, bandits annoy me because they are using up resources that my dollars paid for. Water, security, infrastructure, donuts for volunteers.

As a runner that would kill to get into Boston - bandits piss me off. Boston is not 'just some marathon'. It's Boston. You have to qualify for it. People work their whole running lives to get into it. When people talk about marathons, it's 'Is is a Boston qualifier?' And with the new qualifying rules, even if you do run fast enough, you might not get in because someone else might get the spot.

I've run 4 marathons in 14 years and haven't qualified for Boston. If I got in, I'd be over the moon. Someone who didn't qualify, who snagged another race number, and just waltzed in? Yeah ...


THIS ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 
2014-04-26 03:20:30 PM  

letrole: I remember shiat like this happening once. I didn't give a shiat about that either. I'd provide you with the details, but I frankly tend to forget shiat that doesn't matter.

There's no rage like manufactured outrage. The very idea that people I will never meet did shiat that has no effect whatsoever on anything has me completely giving not one big steaming shiat. And get this, all they said when cornered by a bunch of sanctimonious twats was "shiat happens, my bad".


/ shiat


OMG that troll was not effective at all.  Way to just phone it in.  You can't even invent a half-assed story?  WTF is going on here?
 
2014-04-26 03:21:10 PM  
Can't we get the BLM to take charge of the land and get someone like Harry Reed to take it all over?

Then it would be fair.
 
2014-04-26 03:25:07 PM  

notatrollorami: Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: SecretAgentWoman: Crowley should donate - VERY generously - to the charity Kathy Brown worked so hard raising money for - you know, unlike just trying to buy a bib with a fat check to a charity like his wife did.

Sure.  He's rich, right?  He should just buy his way out of trouble.

How is this a rich-hate thread? Oh, yeah, the headline appeals to rich-haters.

Under the specific set of circumstances (couldn't finish together last year thanks to the bombing, couldn't finagle a legit entry for her this year) I don't see how anyone can be really upset about printing a fake bib. Which does not require much money, BTW. Who was hurt and how exactly?

They fudged a bib, harmed no one, stole nothing (is someone pissed she breathed their air on the route?) and completed a treasured mutual goal they trained long and hard for.

If this makes your blood boil you may want to consider whether you're just kind of a dick.



It's a specific sub-set of that type - the "Narcissist Start-Up Prick" thread.
 
2014-04-26 03:27:30 PM  

skinink: "fark it then, Nogale's right, the current clusterfark is working just fine."
Just curious, how is it a clusterfark? Did I miss the stories about this year's Marathon which stated it was a disaster? The Boston Marathon is one of the most important marathons in the world.


To whom?
 
2014-04-26 03:27:55 PM  

FriarReb98: The answer is obviously to go electronic.  Bar codes/QR codes to get into the starting area, authentication stickers if need be, just make it as hard as possible to bandit....



That is exactly what is happening here in Dallas. Our next local marathon is using chipped wrist-bands. You pass through a gateway at the start, checkpoints, and finish. Runners wear numbers, but all identification and scoring is done by the chip 
Here is some info:  http://www.marathonguide.com/features/articles/racetimingwithchip.cfm


Frankly, I'm kind of surprised that the Boston Marathon isn't using one of these systems already...
 
2014-04-26 03:29:13 PM  

Fusilier: Linux_Yes: Smeggy Smurf: Linux_Yes: the Wealthy steal all the time in 'murica. just ask Cliven Bundy.   they are smart enough and protected enough to rarely get caught.


steal tens of millions on wall street, get admiration.  steal 200 dollars from the convenience store, go to prison.


the fact that almost half of this nation's total wealth is owned by the richest 1% is further evidence of theft since, after all, we live in a 'Democratic Republic'.  wink.

Yeah, just HOW did Harry Reid get so rich?  Or Al Gore?


maybe the Koch brothers could tell you.  or bushie boy and his buddies in saudi arabia.  or perhaps, sheldon adelson, the republican billionaire who makes his money from casinos in communist (according to CIA.gov) china. he loves feeding your buddies in the republican party.

you are too easy.  run along, now.

Ask Soros AND the Kochs and let's compare their answers. If anyone believes that there is a real difference between the Pelosis, the Bushes, the Gores, and any other group of rich wankers, they are being played. Most of this nonsense is "something shiny" to keep the proles like you and me arguing with each other while the plutocrats stack the deck in their own favor. Eventually there will be a fortified wall around the DC Beltway guarded by a Brigade of Ghurkas to maintain order and keep the likes of you out. The only real difference between the Republicans and the Democrats is that one will allow you to own a revolver, and the other will cheerfully permit your daughter to have an abortion.



there's meat in that.  but....to suggest that two things are equal is a bit of a stretch for me.  the Dems have plenty of poop on their hands.  but i do believe that, overall, they are the lessor of two evils.  until we get a 3rd party (if that ever even happens) i have to go/vote with the lessor of two evils.

true, it is a Divide and conquer system. keep the little people at each other's throats so the upper crust can laugh all the way to their overseas tax shelters.  if the little people ever united, then the richest 2% and the politicians they own would find themselves in a pickle.

like i said, all i can do is vote for the lesser of two evils.  or not vote at all.   if i don't vote, then i can't complain about the way things are.

there are some Republicans i can respect.  not alot of them, though.
 
2014-04-26 03:34:59 PM  

notatrollorami: Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: SecretAgentWoman: Crowley should donate - VERY generously - to the charity Kathy Brown worked so hard raising money for - you know, unlike just trying to buy a bib with a fat check to a charity like his wife did.

Sure.  He's rich, right?  He should just buy his way out of trouble.

How is this a rich-hate thread? Oh, yeah, the headline appeals to rich-haters.

Under the specific set of circumstances (couldn't finish together last year thanks to the bombing, couldn't finagle a legit entry for her this year) I don't see how anyone can be really upset about printing a fake bib. Which does not require much money, BTW. Who was hurt and how exactly?

They fudged a bib, harmed no one, stole nothing (is someone pissed she breathed their air on the route?) and completed a treasured mutual goal they trained long and hard for.

If this makes your blood boil you may want to consider whether you're just kind of a dick.


So, you are saying that it is fair for thousands of people to abide by the rules, but if someone doesn't feel like abiding by those rules, that is ok because they are SPECIAL and rules don't apply to them?
 
2014-04-26 03:37:10 PM  

notatrollorami: Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: SecretAgentWoman: Crowley should donate - VERY generously - to the charity Kathy Brown worked so hard raising money for - you know, unlike just trying to buy a bib with a fat check to a charity like his wife did.

Sure.  He's rich, right?  He should just buy his way out of trouble.

How is this a rich-hate thread? Oh, yeah, the headline appeals to rich-haters.

Under the specific set of circumstances (couldn't finish together last year thanks to the bombing, couldn't finagle a legit entry for her this year) I don't see how anyone can be really upset about printing a fake bib. Which does not require much money, BTW. Who was hurt and how exactly?

They fudged a bib, harmed no one, stole nothing (is someone pissed she breathed their air on the route?) and completed a treasured mutual goal they trained long and hard for.

If this makes your blood boil you may want to consider whether you're just kind of a dick.


Marathon size limits are a function of road width. You can only have so many people trying to run a route before it's a mess. Once they have a limit, the organizers plan for water, food and energy drinks based on that number.

Bandits screw up both those; they make the course more congested and take food and water for runners that paid for it.
 
2014-04-26 03:39:21 PM  
"But officer, you don't understand......I had a strong NEED to drive over the speed limit."

"I had a strong NEED to murder that man"

"I had a strong NEED to rape her"

"I had a strong NEED to DO WHATEVER i WANT BECAUSE RULES/LAWS DON'T APPLY TO ME"
 
2014-04-26 03:45:06 PM  

letrole: I'd provide you with the details, but I frankly tend to forget shiat that doesn't matter.


noitsnot: You can't even invent a half-assed story?


But you ain't got no legs, Lt Dan.


Yes Gump, I know that.

/ actual quote is "yes, I know that".
// but he should have said gump
 
2014-04-26 03:55:12 PM  
I hate the concept of rich people getting away with things as much as anyone but this whole thing is just stupid.  I wasn't aware the Boston Marathon was taking place on private property.  Its being done in the public streets,  nobody has a right to bar a member of the public from being in a public place.
 
2014-04-26 03:56:39 PM  
I see this as along the lines of the chick in a thread a few days ago, the one who stole stuff from restaurants.

It's a mindset that "rules don't apply to me". If a few people do it, not much harm. But not everyone can operate on that mindset, or the harm would be cumulative.

I'm mostly amused that he's a very public figure, and pulled this shiat by posting pix of his wife with the fake numbers. That and his non-apology.

If self-entitled behavior was rare among the nouveau riche techies, then it wouldn't be such big news.

But this kind of "laws and common courtesy don't apply to me" behavior is pretty damn common. It says something about
Our society.
 
2014-04-26 04:06:21 PM  

Warlordtrooper: I hate the concept of rich people getting away with things as much as anyone but this whole thing is just stupid.  I wasn't aware the Boston Marathon was taking place on private property.  Its being done in the public streets,  nobody has a right to bar a member of the public from being in a public place.


Oh, look. Another one with the Cliven Bundy defense, eh?
 
pla
2014-04-26 04:32:23 PM  
Barnacles! : "But officer, you don't understand......I had a strong NEED

Well, clearly some folks in this discussion have a strong NEED for a sense of proportion.

Everyone comparing running in a marathon without permission to rape, murder, shoplifting, even mere speeding - Seriously guys, it doesn't help your argument to sound like hypersensitive nannies.

Similarly, everyone talking about "affluenza" need to look at how many other people ran using the same number and didn't make national headlines.

/ Mock outrage.  You can haz it?
 
2014-04-26 05:02:27 PM  

Lokkii: FriarReb98: The answer is obviously to go electronic.  Bar codes/QR codes to get into the starting area, authentication stickers if need be, just make it as hard as possible to bandit....


That is exactly what is happening here in Dallas. Our next local marathon is using chipped wrist-bands. You pass through a gateway at the start, checkpoints, and finish. Runners wear numbers, but all identification and scoring is done by the chip
Here is some info:  http://www.marathonguide.com/features/articles/racetimingwithchip.cfm


Frankly, I'm kind of surprised that the Boston Marathon isn't using one of these systems already...


I have a friend who was chipped in at the Marathon, and you could watch real-time progress, so I'm getting a kick...
 
2014-04-26 05:45:33 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: Let's see, no backpacks, meaning the veterans can't participate this year.

No unregistered participants, due to security concerns.

I think we can add "too rich to be considered a terrorist" to the list.


Money is the difference between a terrorist and a supervillian.
 
2014-04-26 06:28:15 PM  

Warlordtrooper: I hate the concept of rich people getting away with things as much as anyone but this whole thing is just stupid.  I wasn't aware the Boston Marathon was taking place on private property.  Its being done in the public streets,  nobody has a right to bar a member of the public from being in a public place.


Of course they can. Try and drive on the course with a car during the race; see how that works out for you.

If you didn't buy a ticket, stay the fark out.
 
2014-04-26 07:26:17 PM  

Lokkii: FriarReb98: The answer is obviously to go electronic.  Bar codes/QR codes to get into the starting area, authentication stickers if need be, just make it as hard as possible to bandit....


That is exactly what is happening here in Dallas. Our next local marathon is using chipped wrist-bands. You pass through a gateway at the start, checkpoints, and finish. Runners wear numbers, but all identification and scoring is done by the chip 
Here is some info:  http://www.marathonguide.com/features/articles/racetimingwithchip.cfm


Frankly, I'm kind of surprised that the Boston Marathon isn't using one of these systems already...


I've run the Boston Marathon three times (including last year and this year).  The first year I ran it (2010) there was a chip you tied onto your shoe.  This year and last year the bibs were chipped.  This allows tracking along the course at various points to obtain splits and track the net time.

However, with a race of this size that include multiple waves the course officials only ensure that each participant is wearing a bib; there are no verification steps on Boston Common (where we're picked up to be taken to Hopkinton) or in Hopkinton to check the bibs authenticity.

I'd say that if there have only been five known cases of people sneaking into the corrals and running then that's pretty good for a race this size.  I think that these bandits should be barred from future Boston Marathons and potentially charged with petty theft because that's really what it is ($180 worth of thievery).  I did see a couple non-bobbed bandits get "booted" off the course by runners and course marshals; they tried to hop in with the first wave  just past the start line.
 
2014-04-26 08:07:58 PM  

Barnacles!: notatrollorami: Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: SecretAgentWoman: Crowley should donate - VERY generously - to the charity Kathy Brown worked so hard raising money for - you know, unlike just trying to buy a bib with a fat check to a charity like his wife did.

Sure.  He's rich, right?  He should just buy his way out of trouble.

How is this a rich-hate thread? Oh, yeah, the headline appeals to rich-haters.

Under the specific set of circumstances (couldn't finish together last year thanks to the bombing, couldn't finagle a legit entry for her this year) I don't see how anyone can be really upset about printing a fake bib. Which does not require much money, BTW. Who was hurt and how exactly?

They fudged a bib, harmed no one, stole nothing (is someone pissed she breathed their air on the route?) and completed a treasured mutual goal they trained long and hard for.

If this makes your blood boil you may want to consider whether you're just kind of a dick.

So, you are saying that it is fair for thousands of people to abide by the rules, but if someone doesn't feel like abiding by those rules, that is ok because they are SPECIAL and rules don't apply to them?


No I'm not. I'm saying he and his wife made a bit of a dick move with some legitimate mitigating circumstances that made it a bit less of a dick move. This minor dick move caused no serious harm to anyone or anything. And it required no wealth to pull off.

Because the perpetrator is a rich guy, though, many in this thread are acting like he and the wife should be hung in the public square.

///TLDR; minor dick move=meh while minor dick move+rich=kill the sonofabiatch
 
2014-04-26 08:10:25 PM  

o'really: I see this as along the lines of the chick in a thread a few days ago, the one who stole stuff from restaurants.

It's a mindset that "rules don't apply to me". If a few people do it, not much harm. But not everyone can operate on that mindset, or the harm would be cumulative.

I'm mostly amused that he's a very public figure, and pulled this shiat by posting pix of his wife with the fake numbers. That and his non-apology.

If self-entitled behavior was rare among the nouveau riche techies, then it wouldn't be such big news.

But this kind of "laws and common courtesy don't apply to me" behavior is pretty damn common. It says something about
Our society.


I disagree. Theft is a crime with a victim. Duplicating a bib is victimless. It's a dick move but no one is harmed and it is therefore a lesser offense.
 
2014-04-26 08:43:07 PM  
I'm struggling to give any farks.
 
2014-04-26 09:25:23 PM  

Fabric_Man: Could she be charged with trespassing?

Oh, I know she won't. She's much too rich for that. But hypothetically, if she were a commoner, would it be trespassing?


Any charges can be applied to commoners including trespassing followed by the obligatory resisting.
 
2014-04-26 10:00:48 PM  

Nogale: EvilEgg: That's what the first woman to run the Boston Marathon had to do, she was just honoring her.

No, you're wrong. First of all, Kathrine Switzer was not the first woman to run Boston. That was Roberta Gibb. Switzer was the first woman to run Boston wearing a number, for which she officially applied and paid. She was in no way a bandit.


No, actually he's right. Roberta Gibb was the first woman to run the Boston Marathon. She ran it as a bandit. That's who the rich chick was honoring. Get it now?
 
2014-04-26 10:39:02 PM  

notatrollorami: I disagree. Theft is a crime with a victim. Duplicating a bib is victimless. It's a dick move but no one is harmed and it is therefore a lesser offense.


They didn't pay the fee to the BAA which means they didn't pay for the course marshals, the police protection, the water and Gatorade, the nutritional supplements, etc.  That's theft.  Not a victimless crime.  Not murder but still petty theft and should be treated as if they stole $180 worth of goods (price of admission).  And they should be barred from future Boston Marathons as they ran under false pretenses.
 
2014-04-26 11:22:02 PM  
If I remember my Psych 101 correctly, "Running together with a loved one in a prestigious marathon" is located between "Love/belonging" and "Esteem" in Maslow's hierarchy of needs.
 
2014-04-27 01:03:07 AM  

chewielouie: Nogale: EvilEgg: That's what the first woman to run the Boston Marathon had to do, she was just honoring her.

No, you're wrong. First of all, Kathrine Switzer was not the first woman to run Boston. That was Roberta Gibb. Switzer was the first woman to run Boston wearing a number, for which she officially applied and paid. She was in no way a bandit.

No, actually he's right. Roberta Gibb was the first woman to run the Boston Marathon. She ran it as a bandit. That's who the rich chick was honoring. Get it now?


Yeah, I'm sure he knew who Roberta Gibb was before I mentioned her. Kathrine Switzer is widely referred to as the first woman to run Boston, despite her efforts to set the facts straight. If in fact he was referring to Gibb, good on him and my apologies. But I doubt it.
 
2014-04-27 01:57:40 AM  
What's Foursquare?
Honestly have no idea, and doubt I'm missing out on anything life-changing.
 
2014-04-27 02:10:53 AM  

trappedspirit: According to the , he and Chelsa were running the marathon together in 2013 but were separated before the bombs went off. Chelsa made it across the finish line moments before the first bomb exploded

When will this whole "I got to get my Boston marathon bombing story out there for people to hear" bs come to an end?


Right after all the "where I was when 9/11 happened " stories finally end. I.e. about a century from now.
 
2014-04-27 11:55:38 AM  
There is a need to manage public space in the public interest.
Because there's not enough of it to always accommodate the personal interests of everybody.

/this American myth of individual freedom, (some sort of mobile sovereignty) has gotten way out of hand.
 
2014-04-27 12:50:19 PM  
Methinks she be mistaking "needs" for "wants" and should be punished accordingly. Forget the gaggles of analysts and lawyers, a "mandatory" fine, non-negotiable,is applicable.That, and perhaps a pull page "Baninnated" adin the Boston paper a couple weeks before, should help to dissuade those who'd consider doing this on a whim.
 
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