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(The Daily Beast)   That other guy from the Grateful Dead speaks about drugged-out Deadheads and living in Jerry Garcia's shadow   (thedailybeast.com) divider line 36
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2014-04-26 12:53:39 AM
I can't imagine that in 50 years there will be anyone speaking this way or making films about today's music.
 
2014-04-26 01:10:33 AM
So, what were the Grateful Dead about? "We were about exploration, adventure-harmonic and rhythmic and melodic and more," Weir says.

The clever use of the word "MORE" here indicates LSD and mushrooms.
 
2014-04-26 01:15:57 AM
A touch of grey kinda suits him anyway.
 
2014-04-26 01:39:06 AM

Farkingwhatever: So, what were the Grateful Dead about? "We were about exploration, adventure-harmonic and rhythmic and melodic and more," Weir says.

The clever use of the word "MORE" here indicates LSD and mushrooms.


That would be correct.

/and weed
//tons of weed
 
2014-04-26 01:40:15 AM

whatshisname: I can't imagine that in 50 years there will be anyone speaking this way or making films about today's music.


Movies about today's music?  Sure - "Behind the Suck"

Of course, in reality there is TONS of great music out there that's more accessible than ever if you turn off the radio and the big label bullshiat.
 
2014-04-26 02:08:44 AM
Late 80s, early 90s deadhead here...yeah, it was about the scene and the drugs, but we all loved the music. It was a fun scene..cops looked the other way for the most part. Some people were fun to laugh at because they really were young Neo wanna be dirty hippies selling grilled cheeses out of the back of their Nissan Pathfinder. Good times.
 
2014-04-26 02:35:02 AM
Sidekick? Emily Shire is a pinhead who needs to be slapped.
 
2014-04-26 02:38:08 AM
Playing sidekick to one of the most iconic figures in rock 'n' roll could leave a man bitter or arrogant, especially when he is as musically talented and innovative as they come.


This stupid c**t has invented a narrative here that in no way applies to the relationship Weir and Garcia had.

/not a huge Dead fan
 
2014-04-26 02:45:00 AM

Thelyphthoric: whatshisname: I can't imagine that in 50 years there will be anyone speaking this way or making films about today's music.

Movies about today's music?  Sure - "Behind the Suck"

Of course, in reality there is TONS of great music out there that's more accessible than ever if you turn off the radio and the big label bullshiat.


Oh so much this.
 
2014-04-26 04:25:16 AM
I saw them once. I'm glad I was sitting in the press box because I dozed off a couple times. The parking lot before the show was fun to see but the music is a lullaby.
 
2014-04-26 05:44:11 AM
I loved the actual concerts.  GD wrote some of the all time great Americana songs, IMHO.  Aside from that I loved hearing them cover the tapestry of American music...  George Jones, Everly Brothers, Gordon Lightfoot, Bo Diddley, Willie Dixon, Miles Davis, Buddy Holly, to name just a few.

But that farking scene around it was such a distraction.  Dig underneath the Peace and Love bullshiat veneer, it was farking dark.  People were as gossipy, deceptive, predatory, status driven and herd minded as any suburban country club.
 
2014-04-26 05:49:36 AM
I'm so excited for Phil and Friends this year.

Furthur was great.  I enjoyed every part of it.  But I'm glad to have Phil and Friends back.
 
2014-04-26 07:14:05 AM
One of my friends bought in to that scene in the late 80's, and wanted me to go see them. I couldn't stand the second generation hippie chicks who wouldn't shower, deified Jerry and Marley etc...wish I would have seen Jerry pick, but it wasn't to be. /have seen many of his influences, however
 
2014-04-26 07:22:13 AM
Deadheads, Phishheads: It's all about the music, maaaaaaaaaan.

No. No, it's not. It's all about getting your head melted.

Opera, Bluegrass, Jazz, Classical, can be about the music. You don't see people camping out eating singed pubic hair grilled cheese on wonderbread at the philharmonic. And they bathe.
 
2014-04-26 07:36:10 AM

vudukungfu: Deadheads, Phishheads: It's all about the music, maaaaaaaaaan.

No. No, it's not. It's all about getting your head melted.

Opera, Bluegrass, Jazz, Classical, can be about the music. You don't see people camping out eating singed pubic hair grilled cheese on wonderbread at the philharmonic. And they bathe.


Doesn't seem like a very good sandwich for $5, but hey, this dreadlocked tarantula like armpit haired homestiched corduroy dress wearing bo smelling earth girl needs a hit of fake acid...
 
2014-04-26 08:18:03 AM
I was there, man.

I was there for the shift in audiences. The differences between the first shows I've seen and the last were noticeable. As a young musician I hung out with others like me. I won't say we were completely straight, but getting ripped was not the goal. A matter of perspective. Some came to see the concert experience and took things to enhance the experience. Others just were there to experience getting ripped and the concert experience was secondary.

There was tensions and arguments. Just like any grouping of people. (There was a big rift between the vegans and everyone else) But there was less of it than anywhere else. There was also a lot of good people helping out others. A real feeling of community.

Do you know why deadheads spin when they dance?


It keeps the music out of their eyes.
 
2014-04-26 08:32:08 AM

10up: I'm so excited for Phil and Friends this year.

Furthur was great.  I enjoyed every part of it.  But I'm glad to have Phil and Friends back.


I'm tired of "all second set, all the time." I want to hear Bertha. I want to hear Row Jimmy. I want to hear Promised Land. I want Minglewood.

God, I'd even like to hear Me & My Uncle.

Just to break it up a little.  Not every song can be a 20 minute jam.  That DOES get boring.
 
2014-04-26 08:33:12 AM
Also, the "Family" can sit on it and turn.
 
2014-04-26 08:41:43 AM
I saw Phil Lesh open for Dylan a few years ago. It was literally the longest hour of my life.
 
2014-04-26 09:33:30 AM
I saw them about about eight times back in the day. The best ones I remember were at at MSG where the hippy wanttabe girls with bare feet on eighth ave. Would do anything for a ticket. Anything!
 
2014-04-26 10:19:07 AM
During 'Space', I was getting bored, so I went down front, right, and started watching Jerry. I was thinking of this song I wanted to hear. He looked up at me, smiled, and began to play it. He saw my big grin, and grinned back, and his playing just caught fire!
30 years later, I decided to look for that concert and that moment. I found more than a dozen fan tapes of it posted on Archive.org. For free.
There was nothing like a Grateful Dead show, and never will be again.
God Bless Bob Weir. May he live to be 110.
Snarkers gotta snark, sure, but too bad if you don't get it. Your life is poorer because of that.
 
2014-04-26 10:19:47 AM

Mark Ratner: Late 80s, early 90s deadhead here...yeah, it was about the scene and the drugs, but we all loved the music. It was a fun scene..cops looked the other way for the most part. Some people were fun to laugh at because they really were young Neo wanna be dirty hippies selling grilled cheeses out of the back of their Nissan Pathfinder. Good times.


Hmmm...late '80s Deadhead from STL. I'll bet we knew each other at some point, I'm from BoCoMo.

I'll admit that I lost interest in the GD after Jerry died. I enjoyed the article and I always wondered what the band thought about their fans.
 
2014-04-26 10:54:17 AM

InmanRoshi: I loved the actual concerts.  GD wrote some of the all time great Americana songs, IMHO.  Aside from that I loved hearing them cover the tapestry of American music...  George Jones, Everly Brothers, Gordon Lightfoot, Bo Diddley, Willie Dixon, Miles Davis, Buddy Holly, to name just a few.

But that farking scene around it was such a distraction.  Dig underneath the Peace and Love bullshiat veneer, it was farking dark.  People were as gossipy, deceptive, predatory, status driven and herd minded as any suburban country club.


This. I think they were the world's greatest cover band.
 
2014-04-26 11:05:08 AM

The_Philosopher_King: I was there, man.

I was there for the shift in audiences. The differences between the first shows I've seen and the last were noticeable. As a young musician I hung out with others like me. I won't say we were completely straight, but getting ripped was not the goal. A matter of perspective. Some came to see the concert experience and took things to enhance the experience. Others just were there to experience getting ripped and the concert experience was secondary.

There was tensions and arguments. Just like any grouping of people. (There was a big rift between the vegans and everyone else) But there was less of it than anywhere else. There was also a lot of good people helping out others. A real feeling of community.

Do you know why deadheads spin when they dance?


It keeps the music out of their eyes.


The spinners were a distinct sub group of deadheads. Favorite stories were how the family dealt with internal strife, theft and assault, intrafamily. Laying a gram of crystal acid on a guys forehead then taking loving care of him for the next twenty years. Pretty trippy scene.
/usher at the Warfield for Jerry's birthday show with JGB same year Floyd played Oakland. Two Floyd shows and three JGB in eight days. Plus the 420 at 17th and Ashbury.
 
2014-04-26 01:34:04 PM

doctor wu: Playing sidekick to one of the most iconic figures in rock 'n' roll could leave a man bitter or arrogant, especially when he is as musically talented and innovative as they come.


This stupid c**t has invented a narrative here that in no way applies to the relationship Weir and Garcia had.

/not a huge Dead fan


This.  How do you write an entire piece about him without knowing how big of a part of the Dead's music Bob is????
 
2014-04-26 03:41:36 PM
What a great band.  I miss them often on Sunday afternoons.
 
2014-04-26 06:15:41 PM

terrapinwreck: What a great band.  I miss them often on Sunday afternoons.


Is that an inside joke? Or did you used to listen to them then and only then?
 
2014-04-26 06:36:54 PM
saw a bit more than 20 shows. Some high, some straight. Never regretted going to see them. Met great folks, met assholes. But I came out with a different perspective, and an appreciation for random that has served me well. I didn't get space until I began hearing bits of tunes nobody else in my crew heard, and figured out that space was being played for me personally, and had everything in it that I needed at that moment, if I just looked for it in the music. Road trips, community breakfast 'stone soup' style, fan art, bootleg t-shirts, buying fruit from a guy who repurposed the Johnny Appleseed story as a sales pitch, hackey sack without competition and people begging the worst player in the circle to keep on trying, picking up glass and trash at a commercial venue just because it seemed right, wanting to see Quinn The Eskimo the entire time and getting it as an encore at my last show with Jerry (and I called it on the second note!). There were people, so there was bullshiat, but I learned from that too. Maybe I could have gotten all of that somewhere else, but I got it there, and I still feel a debt. My life before the Dead was in no way as fun as my life after the Dead.

BTW, if you haven't seen a movie called "And The Music Never Stopped', then please do yourself a favor and find it. Tangentially related, but I did like seeing an outsider's perspective of being at a show.
 
2014-04-26 10:12:01 PM

ytterbium: Mark Ratner: Late 80s, early 90s deadhead here...yeah, it was about the scene and the drugs, but we all loved the music. It was a fun scene..cops looked the other way for the most part. Some people were fun to laugh at because they really were young Neo wanna be dirty hippies selling grilled cheeses out of the back of their Nissan Pathfinder. Good times.

Hmmm...late '80s Deadhead from STL. I'll bet we knew each other at some point, I'm from BoCoMo.

I'll admit that I lost interest in the GD after Jerry died. I enjoyed the article and I always wondered what the band thought about their fans.


BoCoMo?
You've seen Jake's Leg I assume? Those guys are good.
 
2014-04-26 10:52:25 PM
Saw them three times.

One might just be the worst concert I ever saw.

One was a top-20 show and other was just plain good.

Calling Weir a 'side kick' is an insult of the first order so fark her.
 
2014-04-26 11:17:28 PM

Mark Ratner: ytterbium: Mark Ratner: Late 80s, early 90s deadhead here...yeah, it was about the scene and the drugs, but we all loved the music. It was a fun scene..cops looked the other way for the most part. Some people were fun to laugh at because they really were young Neo wanna be dirty hippies selling grilled cheeses out of the back of their Nissan Pathfinder. Good times.

Hmmm...late '80s Deadhead from STL. I'll bet we knew each other at some point, I'm from BoCoMo.

I'll admit that I lost interest in the GD after Jerry died. I enjoyed the article and I always wondered what the band thought about their fans.

BoCoMo?
You've seen Jake's Leg I assume? Those guys are good.


They are, I also went to a few Blue Dixie shows. I saw both play at Mississippi Nights back in the day.
 
2014-04-26 11:20:03 PM

bobthenewsman: During 'Space', I was getting bored, so I went down front, right, and started watching Jerry. I was thinking of this song I wanted to hear. He looked up at me, smiled, and began to play it. He saw my big grin, and grinned back, and his playing just caught fire!
30 years later, I decided to look for that concert and that moment. I found more than a dozen fan tapes of it posted on Archive.org. For free.
There was nothing like a Grateful Dead show, and never will be again.
God Bless Bob Weir. May he live to be 110.
Snarkers gotta snark, sure, but too bad if you don't get it. Your life is poorer because of that.


Amen, bob. Amen.
 
2014-04-26 11:47:21 PM

ytterbium: Mark Ratner: ytterbium: Mark Ratner: Late 80s, early 90s deadhead here...yeah, it was about the scene and the drugs, but we all loved the music. It was a fun scene..cops looked the other way for the most part. Some people were fun to laugh at because they really were young Neo wanna be dirty hippies selling grilled cheeses out of the back of their Nissan Pathfinder. Good times.

Hmmm...late '80s Deadhead from STL. I'll bet we knew each other at some point, I'm from BoCoMo.

I'll admit that I lost interest in the GD after Jerry died. I enjoyed the article and I always wondered what the band thought about their fans.

BoCoMo?
You've seen Jake's Leg I assume? Those guys are good.

They are, I also went to a few Blue Dixie shows. I saw both play at Mississippi Nights back in the day.


I miss Mississippi Nights!
 
2014-04-27 12:45:21 AM
The ads on the right side of the page covered so much of the text it was nearly impossible to understand the article.
 
2014-04-27 08:53:01 AM
Of course I had to post here.

Fark all the haters.

Bobby still has it and has it good.  He opened for Dylan at Hershey pretty recently.  We walked on Dylan (and his jazzy retakes on his old classics,) But the wife thought Bobby killed it acoustic.

The festie we are attending this year will have Bobby and Ratdog, Phil and friends, STI and the Allman brothers.

It's never all about the drugs, but it's likely not all about the music either.

People are fun to watch from a distance.  Dead shows just brought more variety in to the people watching.
 
2014-04-27 12:16:23 PM

Betep: I saw them once. I'm glad I was sitting in the press box because I dozed off a couple times. The parking lot before the show was fun to see but the music is a lullaby.


More like a fretful nap confined on a Mexican bus in the '60s. Before I heard Dead music, I thought they would be some sort of psychedelic supergroup, like early Steve Miller meets Sun Ra with George Clinton. Instead, they were mostly like a bluegrass group with a bong and song-ending problem. If finding GD music 90% dull makes me a hater, call me Attila the None of That, Thanks.
 
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