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(Slate)   Coffee start-up plans to take on Starbucks by offering unlimited coffee to customers for $45 a month. Wasn't that the plot of a Seinfeld episode?   (slate.com) divider line 123
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2014-04-26 04:07:23 AM  
I thought the whole point of Starbucks was that you got your own personal slave to boss around for a minute or two, just like Subway.  This "deal" sounds to be nothing of the sort and will appropriately fail after the initial buzz.
 
2014-04-26 04:09:40 AM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: What did people call new companies prior to 7 years ago when "start-up" was coined?


"Looks like someone rented that vacant storefront. Prolly gonna start up a new business."
 
2014-04-26 04:19:39 AM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: What did people call new companies prior to 7 years ago when "start-up" was coined?


startup  -- 1976

http://www.quora.com/Etymology/What-is-the-etymology-of-the-term-sta rt up
 
2014-04-26 05:15:10 AM  
CTRL+F "nespresso" - Not Found.  Fail.

Who's my little countertop crack dealer?  Yes, yes you are!
www.cafetera-express.com

Or the alternative when you're not in a hurry (Moka for those wondering):
images.drillspot.com
 
2014-04-26 05:24:07 AM  

ZMugg: My BFAM in New Hampshire has one of these:
[ecx.images-amazon.com image 346x450]
I can't seem to find one in a store south of the Mason-Dixon.

It uses real coffee grounds, as opposed to oversize half & half containers full of concentrated coffee sludge.

Have no credit card, can't shop online.


I was curious and looked it up.  It uses coffee pods, so it's just a variation of the k-cups  And that farker costs almost $400.  Fark that.

I'm not a cheap bastard.  My primary coffee machine goes for $1200 (Jura Capresso Super Automatic espresso machine).  But I look at the Senseo and it makes me think it's bought by people who only want to impress other people.

I also have a Keurig machine for the convenience.  On occasion I like to have some regular coffee with Irish Cream and pulling out a full size coffee maker (yes, I have one of those, too) for a single cup is a pain and is wasteful.
 
2014-04-26 07:35:05 AM  

VivianVivisect: Are you guys terrified at the amount of empty sugar calories you consume a day in your coffee? I tried coffee black. I can't do if again .....


No sugar, I use condensed (unsweetened) milk and decent coffee - brewed right. I leave the sour, burnt coffee to Starbucks suckers.

VivianVivisect: My friend says I need a special bean to brew in a French press? Is she a liar liar pants on fire?


As said above, just don't use espresso. The more important thing, for a French press, which hasn't been mentioned, is timing. Too short and you don't get the full flavour, too long and the drink becomes sour. I think 3 1/2 - 4 minutes was about right when I used one. It's an interesting and complex topic, as you have aroma, oils, other stuff in the coffee which varies from bean to bean, brand to brand, grind to grind.
 
2014-04-26 10:12:20 AM  
That is just silly expensive.  I can buy a large bag of beans from Costco and make more than I can possibly drink in a month for much less than that.  I guess there are always some suckers out there though.
 
2014-04-26 10:23:46 AM  

sotua: VivianVivisect: My friend says I need a special bean to brew in a French press? Is she a liar liar pants on fire?

You don't need special beans, but you do need a special grind. It's coarser that espresso or filter coffee.

Of course, you can still use espresso grind, but it clogs the mesh and enough silt passes through that you get a couple of mm of coffee mud in the bottomxof your cup. I prefer to get it ground for French press, but it isn't like you can't use it with the finer grind. It will just have the side effects described above.


I consider coffee mud a feature, not a side effect. I don't know why, but I kinda like the grit in the bottom of my french press. I don't make a point to drink the gritty part, but I like it.
 
2014-04-26 10:33:42 AM  
Glitchy slate website just leads me to red stripes and a grey photo of a woman who looks like Sheldon's girlfriend. Fail, slate. Fail.
 
2014-04-26 10:35:54 AM  

Badgers: ZMugg: My BFAM in New Hampshire has one of these:
[ecx.images-amazon.com image 346x450]
I can't seem to find one in a store south of the Mason-Dixon.

It uses real coffee grounds, as opposed to oversize half & half containers full of concentrated coffee sludge.

Have no credit card, can't shop online.

You're not missing anything, really... Senseo produces pretty awful coffee.


It's been a long time, but we had a Senseo. I thought it made good coffee. FWIW, I don't think Keurigs make good coffee. We ditched the Senseo, as I drink way too much to make it economical.
 
2014-04-26 10:40:02 AM  

VivianVivisect: I'm considering changing my rockstar habit back to k-cups or coffee, are those k-cup thing economical?

What kinda coffee will they serve?
Who will write their software?

It better be good is all. God damn


Not economical compared to using a standard coffeemaker, but the convenience factor IS valuable... We have a Keurig and a regular coffeemaker; the Keurig is great for making a quick cup in the morning, the coffeemaker is great for brewing a big pot on the weekend when we have time to relax. Plus with the Keurig I can have whatever flavor I want and she can have whatever flavor she wants; with a regular coffeemaker you are both stuck with whatever is brewed. The Keurig cost us about $100 and the regular coffeemaker cost us $20, plus another $5 for the metal coffee filter (you save money over time by not having to buy regular filters). K-cups can be pricey but since I am not really picky I tend to buy whatever is on sale while she likes Starbucks K-cups and those are more expensive. She shops at Kohls a lot and gets coupons and Kohls cash and we use those to buy K-cups so that helps out. We have a My K-Cup that you can refill with regular coffee but it tends to taste weak unless you really press a lot into it which can make it not work as well. Adding a little ground espresso boosts the flavor. One K-Cup that I really like is Folger's Black Silk- it's pretty tasty and not expensive, plus it's usually on sale at the local grocery store. If you are a busy person  a Keurig is going to save you time and hassle in the mornings when you are in a rush, but if you are more laid-back you will save dollars with a regular coffeemaker but it takes longer to brew and there is more cleanup. For us a combination of both seems to be the best solution...
 
2014-04-26 10:40:58 AM  

Nordschleife: Although I should probably get the brand right and mention they were Monster Energy Rehabs.  I did used to drink Rockstar, too.  The zero carb blue can I think.


Try the rockstar lemonade. 10 carbs for a 16 oz can and is the best lemonade out of a can that I've ever tasted.
 
2014-04-26 11:02:05 AM  

kalvyn: Buy one of these:

[www.victrolacoffee.com image 290x393]

Buy your coffee from here

Profit. :)

/I also have an AeroPress
//Do pour-over WAY more often
//Frak Starbucks, and I live in WA :\


Thanks! I'll be putting in an order for a couple of pounds. Maybe pick up a pour over set.

If anyone is in southern RI, go here. http://tlccoffeeroasters.com/

Best coffee Ive ever had. They do roast their own beans and will ship. Their website isn't the best so its best to call them directly. Looks like they have 2 new locations since Ive last been there. Wish they put a listing of their roasts on their page but their espresso roast and Sherlock Holmes were my favorites.

I've tried making coffee a bunch of different ways. For a long time I simply didnt like it. I got one of the larger keruig machines when I moved to a place without coffee shops and it was getting to be a pain to make french press in an office setting without a functional kitchen. Mine makes a decent cup of coffee. I have toyed with

If I have time in the morning, I make espresso on the stove top. If you do, I recommend stainless steel rather than the AL makers. I had to ship mine back to Bialetti.

Someone gave me a single cup keurig machine for the house but I cant figure out how to use it so I'm tempted to chuck it. Anyone know how to get the water to dispense in one of those?

Im looking for a weekend solution. I dont feel like a pot of espresso and I keep getting a bunch of pre ground coffee (free is good) from a family member. Is the pour over method good for standard grinds? Or like the french press, needs a coarser grind?
 
2014-04-26 11:10:53 AM  

Coastalgrl: kalvyn: Buy one of these:

[www.victrolacoffee.com image 290x393]

Buy your coffee from here

Profit. :)

/I also have an AeroPress
//Do pour-over WAY more often
//Frak Starbucks, and I live in WA :\

Thanks! I'll be putting in an order for a couple of pounds. Maybe pick up a pour over set.

If anyone is in southern RI, go here. http://tlccoffeeroasters.com/

Best coffee Ive ever had. They do roast their own beans and will ship. Their website isn't the best so its best to call them directly. Looks like they have 2 new locations since Ive last been there. Wish they put a listing of their roasts on their page but their espresso roast and Sherlock Holmes were my favorites.

I've tried making coffee a bunch of different ways. For a long time I simply didnt like it. I got one of the larger keruig machines when I moved to a place without coffee shops and it was getting to be a pain to make french press in an office setting without a functional kitchen. Mine makes a decent cup of coffee. I have toyed with

If I have time in the morning, I make espresso on the stove top. If you do, I recommend stainless steel rather than the AL makers. I had to ship mine back to Bialetti.

Someone gave me a single cup keurig machine for the house but I cant figure out how to use it so I'm tempted to chuck it. Anyone know how to get the water to dispense in one of those?

Im looking for a weekend solution. I dont feel like a pot of espresso and I keep getting a bunch of pre ground coffee (free is good) from a family member. Is the pour over method good for standard grinds? Or like the french press, needs a coarser grind?


I don't know how to use the single cup machines, I've got a big one. If you get it working and you like espresso but not overpowering try Melitta Cafe De Europa Espresso Toscana K-cups- it's very good. I'm in MA and Shaw's usually has them, sometimes on sale, I think there are Shaw's in RI as well...
 
2014-04-26 02:00:40 PM  

Coastalgrl: Is the pour over method good for standard grinds? Or like the french press, needs a coarser grind?


I am sure a standard grind is fine, since pour-over uses a "standard" coffee filter. I grind my own coffee and make it about as coarse as sea salt, per the Blue Bottle website though I've used standard pre-ground coffee with no issues.

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2014-04-26 02:14:39 PM  

Gobobo: VivianVivisect: Are you guys terrified at the amount of empty sugar calories you consume a day in your coffee? I tried coffee black. I can't do if again .....

No sugar, I use condensed (unsweetened) milk and decent coffee - brewed right. I leave the sour, burnt coffee to Starbucks suckers.

VivianVivisect: My friend says I need a special bean to brew in a French press? Is she a liar liar pants on fire?

As said above, just don't use espresso. The more important thing, for a French press, which hasn't been mentioned, is timing. Too short and you don't get the full flavour, too long and the drink becomes sour. I think 3 1/2 - 4 minutes was about right when I used one. It's an interesting and complex topic, as you have aroma, oils, other stuff in the coffee which varies from bean to bean, brand to brand, grind to grind.


Also, nobody's mentioned temperature. Pouring boiling water onto the grounds will often result in bitter coffee. It's best to use water that's fallen under 205°F.
 
2014-04-26 02:22:21 PM  

kalvyn: Coastalgrl: Is the pour over method good for standard grinds? Or like the french press, needs a coarser grind?

I am sure a standard grind is fine, since pour-over uses a "standard" coffee filter. I grind my own coffee and make it about as coarse as sea salt, per the Blue Bottle website though I've used standard pre-ground coffee with no issues.

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I was looking at that. Thanks. I found a couple cheaper versions of the porcelain pour over drip brewer online so I may pick one of those up.

My aunt supplies me with a couple pounds of coffee here and there. I have 3 pounds sitting in reserve. I have the ecobrew for my larger keurig which works well but a mess to use in an office setting again lacking sink and easy disposal methods.

I don't know how but I kill standard drip makers. They get to a point of only making super bitter brews. I try to clean them with a dilluted vinegar mixture but I end up with bitter vinegar tasting coffee.
 
2014-04-26 02:30:26 PM  

cyberspacedout: Also, nobody's mentioned temperature. Pouring boiling water onto the grounds will often result in bitter coffee. It's best to use water that's fallen under 205°F.


Excellent point! Here's some directions on pour-over for the uninitiated:

How to make a good cup of coffee

What I was doing a few minutes ago:

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2014-04-26 02:34:53 PM  

Coastalgrl: I was looking at that. Thanks. I found a couple cheaper versions of the porcelain pour over drip brewer online so I may pick one of those up.


Yeah, I use a cheap plastic one and it works fine. If a family member asks me what to get me for Christmas, I might mention a ceramic one, though! :)

/Last year I asked for Sweetwater gift certs from everyone
//funded my Focusrite purchase
///Music is my other drug :P
 
2014-04-26 02:53:24 PM  

kalvyn: Coastalgrl: I was looking at that. Thanks. I found a couple cheaper versions of the porcelain pour over drip brewer online so I may pick one of those up.

Yeah, I use a cheap plastic one and it works fine. If a family member asks me what to get me for Christmas, I might mention a ceramic one, though! :)

/Last year I asked for Sweetwater gift certs from everyone
//funded my Focusrite purchase
///Music is my other drug :P


Music is my other drug too...

*googles Focusrite*

Damn...I am not even close to your level, O Bi Wan. I could have fun with that but my skills are old and rusty. I always wanted to record/mix a rock song with a flute. Its my dominant instrument but Jethro Tull I'm not. Been saving for an electric piano to revive my poor piano skills.

What's your instrument?
 
2014-04-26 03:53:39 PM  

Coastalgrl: kalvyn: Coastalgrl: I was looking at that. Thanks. I found a couple cheaper versions of the porcelain pour over drip brewer online so I may pick one of those up.

Yeah, I use a cheap plastic one and it works fine. If a family member asks me what to get me for Christmas, I might mention a ceramic one, though! :)

/Last year I asked for Sweetwater gift certs from everyone
//funded my Focusrite purchase
///Music is my other drug :P

Music is my other drug too...

*googles Focusrite*

Damn...I am not even close to your level, O Bi Wan. I could have fun with that but my skills are old and rusty. I always wanted to record/mix a rock song with a flute. Its my dominant instrument but Jethro Tull I'm not. Been saving for an electric piano to revive my poor piano skills.

What's your instrument?


My main instrument is the guitar, though I also play bass and mandolin. I've been playing a long time but this is my first recording device (I hook it to my iPad and use Garage Band to multi-track). I've wanted a multi-track recorder since the '80's and I've finally got one. :)

/rock star dreams never truly die :P
 
2014-04-26 07:31:16 PM  

drjekel_mrhyde: Caffeine makes your nuts small dick look bigger.


How I read that.
 
2014-04-27 07:31:40 AM  
 
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