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(Miami Herald)   1972 Miami Dolphins lose one: RIP Earl Morrall   (miamiherald.com) divider line 25
    More: Sad, Earl Morrall, dolphins, Bob Griese, Dolphins QBs, Miami, Vinny Testaverde, Don Shula, Larry Csonka  
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2014-04-25 05:34:12 PM  
Still less dead than the 1994 Chargers.
 
2014-04-25 06:06:01 PM  
I remember that Dolphins team well.  And none of them are likely to see anyone break their record.  They'll all have to be buried with champagne.

/so sad
//earl was a good guy
//and also morrall
 
2014-04-25 08:29:54 PM  
In 1972, I was 8 years old and had been a 'phins fan for two years already. I can still name ~90% of the starters on that team from memory. Go PHins!
But for all the nostalgia (and despite my uninterupted fandom), I suspect that the 2013 Texans or any of the recent Jaguar teams would've destroyed the 72/73 dolphins...

/go phins.
 
2014-04-25 08:57:34 PM  

wjllope: In 1972, I was 8 years old and had been a 'phins fan for two years already. I can still name ~90% of the starters on that team from memory. Go PHins!
But for all the nostalgia (and despite my uninterupted fandom), I suspect that the 2013 Texans or any of the recent Jaguar teams would've destroyed the 72/73 dolphins...

/go phins.


See, I hear hypothetical arguments like this every season, and I'm never 100% convinced of it.  I just wonder if the clashing styles would just throw both sides for a loop and actual talent would decide it instead of play calling.
 
2014-04-25 09:27:29 PM  
Has Garo Ypremian passed on?
 
2014-04-25 09:35:06 PM  

ISO15693: Has Garo Yepremian passed on?


No.

Pick-6.
 
2014-04-25 09:42:05 PM  
72 Phins only team to win the bowl with the #1 offense and #1 defense.....  greatest team of all time
 
2014-04-25 09:53:28 PM  

wjllope: But for all the nostalgia (and despite my uninterupted fandom), I suspect that the 2013 Texans or any of the recent Jaguar teams would've destroyed the 72/73 dolphins...


I disagree.  Granted the linemen are roidier, but that O-line was fast. And nasty.  Then you put Csonka behind it.  With Mercury Morris for lightening.

I wouldn't want to tackle that for four minutes, let alone four quarters.
 
2014-04-25 10:03:00 PM  

wjllope: In 1972, I was 8 years old and had been a 'phins fan for two years already. I can still name ~90% of the starters on that team from memory. Go PHins!
But for all the nostalgia (and despite my uninterupted fandom), I suspect that the 2013 Texans or any of the recent Jaguar teams would've destroyed the 72/73 dolphins...

/go phins.


If you look at the records of the teams they beat, they had a pretty soft schedule. But they do deserve credit for not letting down in one of those late season games when they had first place wrapped up, and a loss would not have mattered.
 
2014-04-25 10:42:29 PM  
Jimmy Orr was wide open! A blind man could have found him! If Morrall would have thrown him the ball Joe Namath probably would not be in the hall of fame today. Grumble grumble grumble.................
 
2014-04-25 10:54:20 PM  

bingethinker: wjllope: In 1972, I was 8 years old and had been a 'phins fan for two years already. I can still name ~90% of the starters on that team from memory. Go PHins!
But for all the nostalgia (and despite my uninterupted fandom), I suspect that the 2013 Texans or any of the recent Jaguar teams would've destroyed the 72/73 dolphins...

/go phins.

If you look at the records of the teams they beat, they had a pretty soft schedule. But they do deserve credit for not letting down in one of those late season games when they had first place wrapped up, and a loss would not have mattered.


Yeah, there's a reason "any given Sunday" is a time-honored cliche in NFL circles.
 
2014-04-25 11:12:15 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: wjllope: But for all the nostalgia (and despite my uninterupted fandom), I suspect that the 2013 Texans or any of the recent Jaguar teams would've destroyed the 72/73 dolphins...

I disagree.  Granted the linemen are roidier, but that O-line was fast. And nasty.  Then you put Csonka behind it.  With Mercury Morris for lightening.

I wouldn't want to tackle that for four minutes, let alone four quarters.


I think Csonka's success was largely a function of the size of the average player at the time.  I mean, he had a reputation as a bruiser at a playing size of 6'3" and 237 pounds.  Compare that to:

Arian Foster - 6'1", 227
Jonathan Stewart - 5'10", 235
Steven Jackson - 6'2", 240
Eddie Lacy - 5'11", 230

And those last three guys all ran the 40-yard dash in between 4.44 and 4.46 seconds.

To me, trying to tackle a 230 pound guy who runs a 4.45 40 is much more difficult than trying to tackle a 237 pound guy who's probably  a decent amount slower.  Especially when you can stack the box with 8 guys because the QB can barely complete half his passes (55% for the season).

Plus the Miami defensive line last year outweighed the 1972 Dolphins offensive line by 35 pounds on average.  I don't care how fast you are, unless you're running the option, you're not running the ball with that big of a disadvantage.
 
2014-04-25 11:12:47 PM  
Didn't know much about this guy before today. Quite the football career. Listened to a podcast that referred to him as the Forest Gump of the NFL. Seems an accurate comparison.
 
2014-04-25 11:13:06 PM  
Always admired what he did, stepping in for both Unitas and Griese. I remember visiting my uncle in Miami in Feb '73 and seeing so many Dolphins in the phone book. Can you imagine that today?
 
2014-04-25 11:23:13 PM  

rugman11: Especially when you can stack the box with 8 guys because the QB can barely complete half his passes (55% for the season).


That's more due to the fact that offenses weren't designed for passing efficiency then, rather than a lack of ability on the QB's part.
 
2014-04-25 11:45:02 PM  
Is he the first one dead? If so, that's an amazing headline.

If not, oh well.

This is as much f*cks as I can give to the 72 Dolphins.

I'd like to see a pillow fight between 72 dolphins and 73 virgins.
 
2014-04-26 12:35:24 AM  
Wake me up when Mercury Morris dies. I'll pop the champagne.
 
2014-04-26 12:39:49 AM  
This made me really sad to see today. The guy really may have been the greatest backup of all time, and played in possibly the greatest QB era of all time.
 
2014-04-26 01:39:57 AM  

lokis_mentor: Still less dead than the 1994 Chargers.


Too Seau'n.

/I made me sad
 
2014-04-26 02:20:14 AM  
He had a haircut you could set your watch to.
 
2014-04-26 08:07:42 AM  

rugman11: Marcus Aurelius: wjllope: But for all the nostalgia (and despite my uninterupted fandom), I suspect that the 2013 Texans or any of the recent Jaguar teams would've destroyed the 72/73 dolphins...

I disagree.  Granted the linemen are roidier, but that O-line was fast. And nasty.  Then you put Csonka behind it.  With Mercury Morris for lightening.

I wouldn't want to tackle that for four minutes, let alone four quarters.

I think Csonka's success was largely a function of the size of the average player at the time.  I mean, he had a reputation as a bruiser at a playing size of 6'3" and 237 pounds.  Compare that to:

Arian Foster - 6'1", 227
Jonathan Stewart - 5'10", 235
Steven Jackson - 6'2", 240
Eddie Lacy - 5'11", 230

And those last three guys all ran the 40-yard dash in between 4.44 and 4.46 seconds.

To me, trying to tackle a 230 pound guy who runs a 4.45 40 is much more difficult than trying to tackle a 237 pound guy who's probably  a decent amount slower.  Especially when you can stack the box with 8 guys because the QB can barely complete half his passes (55% for the season).

Plus the Miami defensive line last year outweighed the 1972 Dolphins offensive line by 35 pounds on average.  I don't care how fast you are, unless you're running the option, you're not running the ball with that big of a disadvantage.


One of my favorite stories of that team comes from one of the lineman who drove to Larry's house to pick him up for a game, and found him in his garage using a power drill to drill through his infected toe, so he could get his swollen foot into his shoe to play. Imagine a Deon Sanders doing that.
 
2014-04-26 09:04:16 AM  
Csonka, Jim Kiick, and Mercury Morris--arguably the greatest backfield of all time.
 
2014-04-26 09:50:34 AM  
So do they pop champagne and celebrate this, too?
 
2014-04-26 03:51:18 PM  
RIP Moral Oral
 
2014-04-26 05:46:36 PM  
I met him when he played for the BALTIMORE Colts. He came to my grandmother's tavern as part of a publicity schtick for Natty Boh. He was a very nice guy ; still have an autograph somewhere ....
 
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