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(The Raw Story)   SC candidate for LT. governor proposes ending public education in the state because "we don't see anything in the Bible about state education." Am I the only one who REALLY doesn't want to see his ideas for reforming the judicial system?   (rawstory.com ) divider line
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2014-04-25 01:47:57 PM  
16 votes:
I'm sorry to be all unconstitutional, but there should be a religious mental test to hold office.
2014-04-25 02:31:19 PM  
10 votes:
South Carolina and Lieutenant Governors aren't in the Bible, either, so I'm not sure what he's doing associating with them.
2014-04-25 01:57:18 PM  
8 votes:
Not that he's advocating a theocracy. He's just got strong moral principles. Principles originated by semi-nomadic sheep herders 3000 years ago and perverted over the centuries by a rigid, power-grabbing priest-class eager to control the masses.

You know, strong Christian Principles.
2014-04-25 01:59:11 PM  
7 votes:
I never cease to be amazed at the depth and earnestness of some in their desire to return to a past that never existed.

It's truly impressive.
2014-04-25 01:53:17 PM  
7 votes:
FTFA: He has encouraged Christian families to withdraw their children from public schools and educate them at home or enroll them in religious schools

Because that IS in the Bible. Right next to "the private market has a solution to everything" and "slavery is okay." Jesus Himself said it on the Mount. Wonderful, blonde haired, blue-eyed Jesus.
2014-04-25 02:34:38 PM  
6 votes:
You know what else isn't in the Bible? The United States. Perhaps he should withdraw himself from that institution as well.
2014-04-25 02:35:04 PM  
5 votes:
FTA: "Then the states would then negotiate, perhaps taking out of their constitution platform, or the provision, that says the state had to provide education, and it would gradually be handed over to churches, families, and private associations," Moore said. "That's the way it was for the first 200 years of American history."

Hmmmm:
Wikipedia says: By the year 1870, all states had free elementary schools

I guess he is only off by 100 years or so.
2014-04-25 02:31:33 PM  
5 votes:
Can't we just wall off the South, rename it Tardfarkistan, and call it good?
2014-04-25 02:57:57 PM  
4 votes:

Whatchoo Talkinbout: Ahh, the hate runs thick in this thread.


hate of ignorance is the basis of learning
2014-04-25 02:36:59 PM  
4 votes:
Religious schools were the model for the first 200 years of this country? Did I wake up in some alternative reality? Public education was part of our original state constitution back in 1816.

I guess we can't let little things like facts or reality get in the way of a good rant.
2014-04-25 02:33:56 PM  
4 votes:
I do not feel obliged to believe the the same God who endowed us with Sense, Reason, and Intellect had also intended us to forego their use.

-Galileo Galilei.

/I literally facepalmed while reading that article.
2014-04-25 02:13:05 PM  
4 votes:
the Bible also isn't the book of law for the United States, so why are we referencing it?
2014-04-25 01:55:43 PM  
4 votes:
Moore has previously claimed that 40 percent of public school students turn away from the church by the end of elementary school and 80 percent by the end of high school.

If that were true, why is Christianity still such a big thing in this country?
2014-04-25 03:03:14 PM  
3 votes:

MyRandomName: Why is it fark only approves links of obscure conservative loonies running in elections.

There are just as many unknown liberal crazies who run.

Oh yeah, fark libs and their down voting on anything that makes their "team" look bad.


I live in the Facepalmetto State and I can assure you that Mr. Moore's positions are not any sort of outlier in state GOP politics here.  Just look into the stories of the General Assembly forcing USC-Upstate to cancel a farcical play because of its lesbian perspective, or the bill to cut funding to CofC because of a book issued to incoming freshmen that addresses gays as people with regular-people problems, or the flap over one of Governor Haley's department heads being "allegedly atheist" and then "claimed to be Jewish" (totally missing that those are by no means either relevant or mutually exclusive).

So get a clue: this guy isn't a crazy.  He's very close to mainstream.  But then he's also running for one of the least important jobs in all of public office.  LTG in SC is powerless.  The governor can barely wipe her own ass without the GA signing off on it.
2014-04-25 02:49:17 PM  
3 votes:
There's also nothing in the Bible about Lt. Governors, so maybe you shouldn't be running?
2014-04-25 02:38:57 PM  
3 votes:
South Carolina REPUBLICAN candidate for LT. governor...

There - I fixed it for ya. Let's not forget which party wants our children to be idiots who vote for them.
2014-04-25 02:33:50 PM  
3 votes:
jesus farking christ.
what an asshole.
2014-04-26 01:37:35 AM  
2 votes:

Smeggy Smurf: There is no need to let anybody have a say other than me because 1) I'm not poor and 2) I'm not about to let myself be under the thumb of some asshole that doesn't have my best interest as priority #1. Damned it's good to not suck at life.


Well my doctor and I make my medical decisions. I do not have the government, an HMO or any other insurance agents trying to save a few bucks at my expense.

And I can't get cut-off - even for the infamous pre-existing conditions.

bornagainpagan.com
2014-04-25 04:14:48 PM  
2 votes:

0z79: Hey, it's this thread again! The one where I get to watch people trip over themselves to make others look and feel foolish and in their pride and selfishness, end up being as hateful and intolerant as they perceive the "orther guys" to be!

No thanks, not drunk enough. I have a big bowl of "don't give a frak" beans to eat.


Hey, it's the guy who thinks that complaining about religion in government is the same as wanting to ban people from being religious!
2014-04-25 03:49:01 PM  
2 votes:

Wook: It wouldn't be Friday without the obligatory anti-Christian thread.  You poor Farkers have been such victims of such severe Christian oppression over the years...


www.kcconfidential.com
2014-04-25 03:47:22 PM  
2 votes:

Mighty Aswan: The first 200 years of American history is from 1492 to 1692, so he may be right for 200 out of 500+ years.

upload.wikimedia.org


THE NATIVE AMERICAN COMMUNITY FROWNS UPON YOUR SHENANIGANS
2014-04-25 03:13:31 PM  
2 votes:

mike_d85: Aquapope: If the SC retards listen to him and home school, but still pay for public schools through taxes, that would be OK.  Reasonable money for smaller, smarter classes?  Who wouldn't want that?

SC politicians tried for years to set up a system where homeschooled kids and private school kids' parents are exempt from a portion of their property taxes because they aren't using the school system.  I'm sure he's going to pick up the supporters of that bill with this.

/It was bi-partisan.
//Somehow that had loads of money supporting it...


Would childless people get to opt out of school tax?
2014-04-25 03:04:58 PM  
2 votes:

que.guero: There are also no leisure suits in the bible so that guy is SO going to hell.


And given that it's likely a Cotton-Poly Blend, the Bible actually says we should send him there by hurling pointy rocks at him
2014-04-25 02:56:35 PM  
2 votes:

PreMortem: I'm sorry to be all unconstitutional, but there should be a religious mental test to hold office.


The problem isn't moronic candidates such as this twit:  it's the morons who buy into his derp and elect him to office.

We need a test covering the basic functions of government - including separation of church and state - before people should be allowed to vote.
2014-04-25 02:51:09 PM  
2 votes:

Diogenes: I never cease to be amazed at the depth and earnestness of some in their desire to return to a past that never existed.

It's truly impressive.


They idolize the 1950s, when public school was one of the things that America prided itself on most.

/also unions and livable wages
//and the John Birch Society was an extremist fringe group that even Nixon or Goldwater wouldn't pander to
2014-04-25 02:44:46 PM  
2 votes:
If the SC retards listen to him and home school, but still pay for public schools through taxes, that would be OK.  Reasonable money for smaller, smarter classes?  Who wouldn't want that?
2014-04-25 02:39:44 PM  
2 votes:

Smeggy Smurf: Just think what it'll be like when these ass clowns get their hands on Obamacare.  I'm going to laugh and laugh and laugh when all the leftists that love it find out just how horrific it can be when the government is in control of your very life.


Yeah, they will try to ban gay marriage, make abortions illegal, disregard the separation of church and state, and send you to prison for ingesting a plant. Can you imagine! It will be so much different!

Oh wait.
2014-04-25 02:34:43 PM  
2 votes:
People like this make me love constitutionally protected free speech just a little bit less.  It ought not be so easy for a candidate with such blatant hostility towards our secular system of government and laws to run for public office.
2014-04-25 02:34:40 PM  
2 votes:
Just say it!

We want the n*ggers back working the fields.
2014-04-25 02:34:06 PM  
2 votes:
The Christian idea of heaven is exactly the same as Nazi Germany's perfect society.  At least Hitler had the balls to put his plan into action instead of waiting around for God to do it for him.
2014-04-25 02:33:16 PM  
2 votes:
The bible doesn't mention not running over someone's balls with a steam roller.
2014-04-25 02:33:13 PM  
2 votes:
Isn't there something called separation of church and state? I'm pretty sure you can't use the Bible as a reference on how to run the government
/though since when has anyone given a shiat about that
//everyone who argues against anything starts pulling the "the Bible says that's bad!" bullshiat, like everyone else is supposed to care
2014-04-25 02:29:39 PM  
2 votes:

ManateeGag: the Bible also isn't the book of law for the United States, so why are we referencing it?


If we use his logic, we need to get rid of our political system as well.

/someone needs to explain to him that biblical Jesus is a socialist
2014-04-26 01:28:46 PM  
1 vote:

UncomfortableSilence: Allah is the Moon God, Yahweh is God of Stars, and the Holy trinity make up the God of Perpendicular Wood Beams.

 im-possible.info
2014-04-25 11:36:42 PM  
1 vote:

Smeggy Smurf: A lot of people understand why Canadians cross the border for the American health care (pre-Obamacare)


Do you actually believe this crap??

The vast, vast majority of Canadians would never consider giving up our system for the American system (pre or post Obamacare). We actually like the fact that all Canadians can get the medical help they need without crippling debt. The live-and-let-die philosophy of many Americans is just not the way we think.

The very rare case where Canadians seek foreign care (in many different countries - not just the USA) is because either a treatment is offered that has not been approved domestically or there is a particular doctor or specialist that they want to see.

And as to your idiotic pre-Obamacare comment ... to my knowledge, the Affordable Care Act would have nothing to do with a foreigner coming into the country so seek care from a doctor. No US taxpayer money would be involved.

When you have to lie to defend your position what does that say about your position??
2014-04-25 10:07:58 PM  
1 vote:
Odd though that you never hear fundies mentioning the bible's perspective on surgery while there in the ER.
2014-04-25 08:58:21 PM  
1 vote:

Loren: wxboy: Moore has previously claimed that 40 percent of public school students turn away from the church by the end of elementary school and 80 percent by the end of high school.

If that were true, why is Christianity still such a big thing in this country?

Turn away = not totally fundie.


As a liberal Christian I can tell you there are plenty of hard-right Christians who have made it very clear they don't think I'm a true Christian.  So yes, I'm sure I would be counted as being in that claimed 80 percent who have "turned away from the church."
2014-04-25 08:09:04 PM  
1 vote:
I almost vomited with rage reading this.... How does religion even have credibility, or a decent following for that matter, with guys like this spewing this nonsensical crap in the name of the bible? It's like these religious people claim to be oppressed and hated..... Well gee, can't imagine why..... Y'all do it to yourselves.
2014-04-25 07:53:31 PM  
1 vote:

Hickory-smoked: Smeggy Smurf: Just think what it'll be like when these ass clowns get their hands on Obamacare.  I'm going to laugh and laugh and laugh when all the leftists that love it find out just how horrific it can be when the government is in control of your very life.

How is it we've gone this far and some people still think the ACA is a massive tyrannical bureaucracy?



It's health insurance.  And some common sense changes like, insurance companies can't deny coverage if you are sick.  But to the paranoids, it's some massive evil government take-over.

I used to schedule appointments for a major medical center in Washington.  One lady told me she wanted me to message her Doctor and tell her she could no longer afford to continue treatment because she lost her job.  She had a serious chronic condition.  I suggested she go to the website and get insurance coverage through the ACA, so she could continue treatment.  She refused because she didn't want to "support" the evil government takeover of health care.  To the detriment of her own health.  That's how brainwashed people are.  It's scary how lies catch on so much easier than the truth.
2014-04-25 07:47:20 PM  
1 vote:

Whatchoo Talkinbout: Fissile: Can't we just wall off the South, rename it Tardfarkistan, and call it good?

Funny, I was thinking the same thing about California and New York.


But they provide much more tax money than all the other states. Most other states would go bankrupt if we got rid of them.
2014-04-25 07:14:25 PM  
1 vote:

ciberido: And believe me, when it comes to pissing off Christians, Farking Canuck knows of which he speaks.


This is true. I tend not to be shy with the truth and nothing pisses them off more than that.
2014-04-25 06:14:30 PM  
1 vote:

Smeggy Smurf: Just think what it'll be like when these ass clowns get their hands on Obamacare.  I'm going to laugh and laugh and laugh when all the leftists that love it find out just how horrific it can be when the government is in control of your very life.


How is it we've gone this far and some people still think the ACA is a massive tyrannical bureaucracy?
2014-04-25 05:27:42 PM  
1 vote:

a particular individual: If you read your Bible, you'll see that the US Constitution in no way applies to the states, unless you want to trot out that heretical Article IV, section 2

Amendment 14

FTFY
2014-04-25 05:23:08 PM  
1 vote:

Diogenes: I never cease to be amazed at the depth and earnestness of some in their desire to return to a past that never existed.


There's a book "The Way We Never Were: American Families and the Nostalgia Trap" that explores how people tend to think of 1950s America versus how it actually was.
2014-04-25 04:43:46 PM  
1 vote:

Ed Grubermann: Pants full of macaroni!!: SquiggsIN: [img.fark.net image 460x576]

Because one worships The Wrong God.

Nope. Same God. Just a slightly different interpretation of Him.


I would argue that Christians and Muslims are just sub-types of Jews.
2014-04-25 04:14:58 PM  
1 vote:

0z79: Hey, it's this thread again! The one where I get to watch people trip over themselves to make others look and feel foolish and in their pride and selfishness, end up being as hateful and intolerant as they perceive the "orther guys" to be!

No thanks, not drunk enough. I have a big bowl of "don't give a frak" beans to eat.


Err, you mean every thread? Better start eatin those beans, you got a case of the "I don't care but I think other people should know my opinions anyway"sies. Terrible disease.
2014-04-25 04:07:25 PM  
1 vote:

anuran: first time I got knifed.


If you're getting knifed often, I would suggest that you revisit your lifestyle or, at least, your neighborhood/hangout locations.
2014-04-25 04:01:55 PM  
1 vote:
The_Hairy_Gooch:

Also, I'm sure NC residents only have their child's well-being in mind, you know, with all those "liberal schools trying to teach my children evolution and not my values and beliefs." If they want to indoctrinate their children send them to private school, or even easier homeschool them.

They voted to close the public schools back in 56 rather than integrate them.  The plan was to give out vouchers close the public schools and let the white kids continue to go to segregated private schools.  It was at the time considered a rather progressive approach for a southern state  None of this ever really happened, but they seem to be trying that approach again.
2014-04-25 03:52:52 PM  
1 vote:

Whatchoo Talkinbout: I was thinking


No you weren't.
2014-04-25 03:33:49 PM  
1 vote:

menschenfresser: Nabb1: Fundamentalist Southern Baptists sure do ruin what is otherwise a fairly lovely state.

Most of the South is actually great - except for the people.

Beautiful country from what I've seen of it.


I've lived in the South my entire life and there are plenty of wonderful people and plenty of not-so-wonderful people, just like most every other place. And since you obviously seem to fall into the latter, and we don't need any more of you, I'll kindly ask you to stay out if you find all of us so repulsive.
2014-04-25 03:22:45 PM  
1 vote:
The Bible doesn't say anything about lieutenant governors or democracy for that matter, which makes me question why he would want to participate in activities that aren't in the Bible. He is obviously a tool of Satan sent to deceive us, I rest my case.
2014-04-25 03:20:00 PM  
1 vote:

Nabb1: Fundamentalist Southern Baptists sure do ruin what is otherwise a fairly lovely state.


Most of the South is actually great - except for the people.

Beautiful country from what I've seen of it.
2014-04-25 03:14:59 PM  
1 vote:
In the future all schools will either be Jesus or Taco Bell.

//Free market after all
//Until a madrasa opens and all hell breaks lose
2014-04-25 03:13:42 PM  
1 vote:
Well, let's see... if we follow these biblical precepts closely, then I guess we can go ahead and eliminate the following in the schools:

Driver's Education- Unless, of course, it's for horse drawn chariots (remember... nobody drove cars in the Bible!)
Most Varsity Athletics-  No Football, Basketball, Baseball, Soccer, Golf, Rifle Marksmanship,  Cycling (only Wrestling... Perhaps Gymnasitcs... Track & Field). My gosh... no 2nd Amendment in the Bible, guys.
School Lunches- Of course, either Bread will fall from Heaven, the kids can eat all the Locusts, or... just get a couple of loaves of bread & some fishes... that'll feed everybody.
Computer Sciences.... No IT or Programming... whip out that Abacus and tally up those scheckels
Prom & School Dances... well, I guess they would replace it with the orgies... maybe a step up...
Astronomy becomes a 5 minute lecture only (Earth is the center!!!... nothing else matters)
2014-04-25 03:05:57 PM  
1 vote:

indy_kid: PreMortem: I'm sorry to be all unconstitutional, but there should be a religious mental test to hold office.

The problem isn't moronic candidates such as this twit:  it's the morons who buy into his derp and elect him to office.

We need a test covering the basic functions of government - including separation of church and state - before people should be allowed to vote.


In my perfect world, gov't would be run by panels of experts in their fields. Not by ambulance chasers voting on climate change.
2014-04-25 03:01:36 PM  
1 vote:
Evangelical Iran is what they want. As somebody else said above, I'm sure this moron is totally against sharia law, though.

img.fark.net
2014-04-25 03:00:49 PM  
1 vote:
We really need to be worried about this. If it takes hold there, it could easily cross the border into the United States.
2014-04-25 03:00:03 PM  
1 vote:
As a libtarded Californian, I feel fine about Jesusland being free to dump us. You need us more than we need you.
2014-04-25 02:58:16 PM  
1 vote:

MyRandomName: Why is it fark only approves links of obscure conservative loonies running in elections.

There are just as many unknown liberal crazies who run.

Oh yeah, fark libs and their down voting on anything that makes their "team" look bad.


What's funny is you think this is true.

I just got my voter pamphlet in Oregon.

One of the GOP candidates for governor made Fark for equating gay sex as being a sin on par with murder.  Her own platform also asks us to resist Chinese communist business infiltration of Oregon.

One of the candidates with an actual shot at winning is running an ad where she 100% does not identify herself as a Republican, just that she is running for governor and will put a stop to Obamacare.

Why is the brand is so toxic that the people that want to be considered Republicans can't even mention it in their campaign ads for a Republican position?

The Democratic candidates are pretty bland, and all incumbents.
2014-04-25 02:57:55 PM  
1 vote:

Wook: It wouldn't be Friday without the obligatory anti-Christian thread.  You poor Farkers have been such victims of such severe Christian oppression over the years...


Followed by the standard christian majority's response to legitimate criticism: "Help! Help! We're being oppressed!!!"
2014-04-25 02:56:56 PM  
1 vote:
So, someone more local.... is this a legit candidate, or is this a candidate that will get about 4-5% of the GOP primary vote if he's lucky anyway?
2014-04-25 02:52:27 PM  
1 vote:
By his own criteria, I suppose he'll also insist on banning any technology developed in the past 2000 years.
2014-04-25 02:51:07 PM  
1 vote:
Why is it fark only approves links of obscure conservative loonies running in elections.

There are just as many unknown liberal crazies who run.

Oh yeah, fark libs and their down voting on anything that makes their "team" look bad.
2014-04-25 02:50:29 PM  
1 vote:

Whatchoo Talkinbout: Fissile: Can't we just wall off the South, rename it Tardfarkistan, and call it good?

Funny, I was thinking the same thing about California and New York.


Because you're a southern dumbass?
2014-04-25 02:49:50 PM  
1 vote:

Whatchoo Talkinbout: Ahh, the hate runs thick in this thread.


And you've earned every bit of it.
2014-04-25 02:44:15 PM  
1 vote:
There are also no leisure suits in the bible so that guy is SO going to hell.
2014-04-25 02:43:39 PM  
1 vote:

Virulency: if you're going to take the Bible literally you probably shouldn't be allowed to pick and choose what parts you like...


If you are going to take that book literally, you should be tossed in a farking nuthouse.
Just like anyone that believe Ents can walk around and that farking superman really existed and came from another planet.

frikking people shouldn't be allowed to vote or own guns. Not even drive cars.
Loonies.

Read your farking books, but fraking keep your cray cray to yourselves.
2014-04-25 02:43:39 PM  
1 vote:

Slives: FTA: "Then the states would then negotiate, perhaps taking out of their constitution platform, or the provision, that says the state had to provide education, and it would gradually be handed over to churches, families, and private associations," Moore said. "That's the way it was for the first 200 years of American history."

Hmmmm:
Wikipedia says: By the year 1870, all states had free elementary schools

I guess he is only off by 100 years or so.


If he were the kind of guy who could be convinced by facts, he wouldn't be saying shiat like this in the first place.
2014-04-25 02:42:40 PM  
1 vote:

Fissile: Can't we just wall off the South, rename it Tardfarkistan, and call it good?


Funny, I was thinking the same thing about California and New York.
2014-04-25 02:42:35 PM  
1 vote:

Magorn: Semantic Warrior: Unoriginal_Username: ManateeGag: the Bible also isn't the book of law for the United States, so why are we referencing it?

If we use his logic, we need to get rid of our political system as well.

/someone needs to explain to him that biblical Jesus is a socialist

"Render unto Caesar"... so taxes would still be paid.

Ironically I often use that very biblical passage to prove to some of my more fundamentalist acquaintance that  Jesus Christ himself who was one of the first people ever recorded articulating the principle of exasperation of Church and state, and if'n he was fer it, they should be too


"exasperation" of Church and state...motherfarking autocorrect....though I kinda do like that phrase and need to work it in to conversations henceforth
2014-04-25 02:41:33 PM  
1 vote:
Ahh, the hate runs thick in this thread.
2014-04-25 02:40:12 PM  
1 vote:

Fissile: Can't we just wall off the South, rename it Tardfarkistan, and call it good?


Yes, or set off some very deep explosions along the border to see if it will detach and slide into the Atlantic.   Georgia needs more coastal land.  Either now or in 25 years when the ice caps melt.
2014-04-25 02:39:08 PM  
1 vote:

Smeggy Smurf: Just think what it'll be like when these ass clowns get their hands on Obamacare.  I'm going to laugh and laugh and laugh when all the leftists that love it find out just how horrific it can be when the government is in control of your very life.


It's not the government that's the problem, it's the pants on head retarded candidates that the right keeps electing.
2014-04-25 02:37:34 PM  
1 vote:
How do these people get elected?!

/Rhetorical question.  *looks at the south, shudders*
2014-04-25 02:37:30 PM  
1 vote:

Semantic Warrior: Unoriginal_Username: ManateeGag: the Bible also isn't the book of law for the United States, so why are we referencing it?

If we use his logic, we need to get rid of our political system as well.

/someone needs to explain to him that biblical Jesus is a socialist

"Render unto Caesar"... so taxes would still be paid.


But only to the current emperor of Rome.
2014-04-25 02:36:12 PM  
1 vote:
if you're going to take the Bible literally you probably shouldn't be allowed to pick and choose what parts you like...
2014-04-25 02:32:17 PM  
1 vote:
Child disputes will likely be very messy

The good news is we found a talking jackass
2014-04-25 02:32:17 PM  
1 vote:

MrBallou: Not that he's advocating a theocracy. He's just got strong moral principles. Principles originated by semi-nomadic sheep herders 3000 years ago and perverted over the centuries by a rigid, power-grabbing priest-class eager to control the masses.

You know, strong Christian Principles.


But not the principles advocated by that hippie Francis. You know, the Papist.
 
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