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(The Raw Story)   SC candidate for LT. governor proposes ending public education in the state because "we don't see anything in the Bible about state education." Am I the only one who REALLY doesn't want to see his ideas for reforming the judicial system?   (rawstory.com ) divider line
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2014-04-25 05:32:16 PM  

elguerodiablo: The Christian idea of heaven is exactly the same as Nazi Germany's perfect society.  At least Hitler had the balls to put his plan into action instead of waiting around for God to do it for him.


And we have Godwin.
 
2014-04-25 05:35:59 PM  

The_Hairy_Gooch: All it would take is one candidate to try and run that didn't believe, and when they go to shut him/her out from running for an office under that clause he/she could sue saying it was unconstitutional. I'm pretty sure they would win in the courts, but then again its SC judges so I wouldn't hold my breath.


This has already been challenged: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cecil_Bothwell
 
2014-04-25 05:41:13 PM  

flondrix: The_Hairy_Gooch: All it would take is one candidate to try and run that didn't believe, and when they go to shut him/her out from running for an office under that clause he/she could sue saying it was unconstitutional. I'm pretty sure they would win in the courts, but then again its SC judges so I wouldn't hold my breath.

This has already been challenged: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cecil_Bothwell


So, it is essentially a "dead" law, that they just like to keep in the books anyway for "good ol time's sake"?

/or, I guess that might be a dated version of the official laws
 
2014-04-25 05:48:29 PM  
Personally, I blame those goddamned furries.
 
2014-04-25 05:55:23 PM  

dr_blasto: anuran: first time I got knifed.

If you're getting knifed often, I would suggest that you revisit your lifestyle or, at least, your neighborhood/hangout locations.


Elsewhere I mentioned that the only time I got knifed when I wasn't being paid to take that risk was by a Jew-hating, racist Christian. The other times were event security, and I was getting a princely pittance to be in harm's way
 
2014-04-25 05:55:32 PM  

Orgasmatron138: I can't think of a religion or political ideology that hasn't been completely perverted out of its original meaning. It's too bad, because I think there is a lot to learn from most of them.


what about pastafarianism?
 
2014-04-25 06:09:18 PM  

anuran: dr_blasto: anuran: first time I got knifed.

If you're getting knifed often, I would suggest that you revisit your lifestyle or, at least, your neighborhood/hangout locations.

Elsewhere I mentioned that the only time I got knifed when I wasn't being paid to take that risk was by a Jew-hating, racist Christian. The other times were event security, and I was getting a princely pittance to be in harm's way


Then, the stabbings hopefully got you to reconsider your career choice to something with a better compensation:risk ratio.
 
2014-04-25 06:09:53 PM  

HawgWild: FTFA: He has encouraged Christian families to withdraw their children from public schools and educate them at home or enroll them in religious schools

Because that IS in the Bible. Right next to "the private market has a solution to everything" and "slavery is okay." Jesus Himself said it on the Mount. Wonderful, blonde haired, blue-eyed Jesus.


i.imgur.com

You are correct since Santa worships blonde, blue-eyed Jesus. This is in the right-wing TV-evangelical Bible (you know, the real Bible - the King James one, not that Hebrew/Latin/Aramaic one that nobody can read and is probably fake).
 
2014-04-25 06:14:30 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: Just think what it'll be like when these ass clowns get their hands on Obamacare.  I'm going to laugh and laugh and laugh when all the leftists that love it find out just how horrific it can be when the government is in control of your very life.


How is it we've gone this far and some people still think the ACA is a massive tyrannical bureaucracy?
 
2014-04-25 06:15:27 PM  

zarker: Isn't there something called separation of church and state? I'm pretty sure you can't use the Bible as a reference on how to run the government


You most certainly can. And the great thing about our political system is that when somebody advocates something like that, public opinion and common sense eventually removes those farktards from the system, That's what's great about America.
 
2014-04-25 06:26:02 PM  
There's nothing in the bible about needing lieutenant governors either, so go home and stay there.
 
2014-04-25 06:30:07 PM  

dletter: So, it is essentially a "dead" law, that they just like to keep in the books anyway for "good ol time's sake"?


It's part of the state constitution, and hard to remove.
 
2014-04-25 06:32:59 PM  

wxboy: Moore has previously claimed that 40 percent of public school students turn away from the church by the end of elementary school and 80 percent by the end of high school.

If that were true, why is Christianity still such a big thing in this country?


Those aren't Real True Christians. It's not enough to believe in Jesus, or even the Nicean code; you've got to believe in the specific fundamentalist ideology that they adhere to. Everyone else is just heretics and pagans, in their eyes.

I have every confidence that if these people ever did manage to establish the theocracy they crave, the very first week they'd be putting other Christians to death for minor doctrinal differences.
 
2014-04-25 06:35:42 PM  

a particular individual: The_Hairy_Gooch: Seriously, that can't be constitutional.

Why do you hate America and states' rights, and, by extension, 8-pound, 6-ounce baby Jesus?

If you read your Bible, you'll see that the US Constitution in no way applies to the states, unless you want to trot out that heretical Article IV, section 2: "The citizens of each state shall be entitled to all privileges and immunities of citizens in the several states."


Republican Jesus FTW!
 
2014-04-25 06:43:43 PM  

flondrix: The_Hairy_Gooch: All it would take is one candidate to try and run that didn't believe, and when they go to shut him/her out from running for an office under that clause he/she could sue saying it was unconstitutional. I'm pretty sure they would win in the courts, but then again its SC judges so I wouldn't hold my breath.

This has already been challenged: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cecil_Bothwell


Nice! Though, that is NC and the original link we were talking about was from SC, and was still on the books. Seeing the court case shows that it wouldn't hold up though if tried again. Thanks for the link!
 
2014-04-25 06:50:04 PM  

Farking Canuck: anuran: First time anyone beat me it was a Christian who hated Jews.
Likewise the first time I got knifed.

fark Dead Jew Onna Stick and his cult of Zombie worshipers.

If you are getting stabbed on multiple occasions you may want to look inward. I know many zombie worshipers and none of them have ever tried to cut me.


And believe me, when it comes to pissing off Christians, Farking Canuck knows of which he speaks.
 
2014-04-25 06:54:26 PM  
lol
 
2014-04-25 07:14:25 PM  

ciberido: And believe me, when it comes to pissing off Christians, Farking Canuck knows of which he speaks.


This is true. I tend not to be shy with the truth and nothing pisses them off more than that.
 
2014-04-25 07:27:50 PM  
Not teaching religion is indoctrination, forcing religion on everyone is not.

/derp
 
2014-04-25 07:32:44 PM  

SquiggsIN: I wonder if the KKK types who praise Jesus but hate people like Jews see the irony of Jesus being Jewish.


First you'd have to explain the concept of "irony" to them. Good luck with that.
 
2014-04-25 07:43:27 PM  

SquiggsIN: even though God, Allah, and Jehovah are just 3 names of the same being according to the Big 3 monotheistic religions?


You can't even get Catholics and Protestants to agree that they are worshiping the same god, you expect Christans, Jews, and Muslims to agree on something like that?
 
2014-04-25 07:47:20 PM  

Whatchoo Talkinbout: Fissile: Can't we just wall off the South, rename it Tardfarkistan, and call it good?

Funny, I was thinking the same thing about California and New York.


But they provide much more tax money than all the other states. Most other states would go bankrupt if we got rid of them.
 
2014-04-25 07:47:36 PM  

Ring of Fire: PreMortem: I'm sorry to be all unconstitutional, but there should be a religious mental test to hold office.

Fun fact in North Carolina there is a religious test to hold office.  If you ain't believin in God you ain't gettin to run for no office. ( Article VI section 8 disqualifications from office.

http://www.ncga.state.nc.us/legislation/constitution/ncconstitution. ht ml


This can't be legal... can it?!
 
2014-04-25 07:53:31 PM  

Hickory-smoked: Smeggy Smurf: Just think what it'll be like when these ass clowns get their hands on Obamacare.  I'm going to laugh and laugh and laugh when all the leftists that love it find out just how horrific it can be when the government is in control of your very life.

How is it we've gone this far and some people still think the ACA is a massive tyrannical bureaucracy?



It's health insurance.  And some common sense changes like, insurance companies can't deny coverage if you are sick.  But to the paranoids, it's some massive evil government take-over.

I used to schedule appointments for a major medical center in Washington.  One lady told me she wanted me to message her Doctor and tell her she could no longer afford to continue treatment because she lost her job.  She had a serious chronic condition.  I suggested she go to the website and get insurance coverage through the ACA, so she could continue treatment.  She refused because she didn't want to "support" the evil government takeover of health care.  To the detriment of her own health.  That's how brainwashed people are.  It's scary how lies catch on so much easier than the truth.
 
2014-04-25 07:57:17 PM  

trega99: Ring of Fire: PreMortem: I'm sorry to be all unconstitutional, but there should be a religious mental test to hold office.

Fun fact in North Carolina there is a religious test to hold office.  If you ain't believin in God you ain't gettin to run for no office. ( Article VI section 8 disqualifications from office.

http://www.ncga.state.nc.us/legislation/constitution/ncconstitution. ht ml

This can't be legal... can it?!


It is unenforceable and unconstitutional.

Doesn't mean they're taking that shiat out of their constitution any time soon.
 
2014-04-25 08:09:04 PM  
I almost vomited with rage reading this.... How does religion even have credibility, or a decent following for that matter, with guys like this spewing this nonsensical crap in the name of the bible? It's like these religious people claim to be oppressed and hated..... Well gee, can't imagine why..... Y'all do it to yourselves.
 
2014-04-25 08:18:46 PM  

Dirty J1: I almost vomited with rage reading this.... How does religion even have credibility, or a decent following for that matter, with guys like this spewing this nonsensical crap in the name of the bible? It's like these religious people claim to be oppressed and hated..... Well gee, can't imagine why..... Y'all do it to yourselves.


People making fun of them, and the courts not letting them impose their will on everyone is what they are calling "oppression".  A good old school pogrom might show them the difference.  But of course that would never happen in a country that is 90% Christian. They will never have it better than they have it now in the USA, but of course they cant help but believe it when the demagogues tell them they are oppressed.
 
2014-04-25 08:24:56 PM  

dr_blasto: Whatchoo Talkinbout: I was thinking

No you weren't.


Ouch, your feelings. So what.
 
2014-04-25 08:26:44 PM  

Kanemano: Whatchoo Talkinbout: Ahh, the hate runs thick in this thread.

hate of ignorance is the basis of learning


The is like taking poison to kill your enemy. Good luck with that.
 
2014-04-25 08:32:02 PM  

Magorn: Magorn: Semantic Warrior: Unoriginal_Username: ManateeGag: the Bible also isn't the book of law for the United States, so why are we referencing it?

If we use his logic, we need to get rid of our political system as well.

/someone needs to explain to him that biblical Jesus is a socialist

"Render unto Caesar"... so taxes would still be paid.

Ironically I often use that very biblical passage to prove to some of my more fundamentalist acquaintance that  Jesus Christ himself who was one of the first people ever recorded articulating the principle of exasperation of Church and state, and if'n he was fer it, they should be too

"exasperation" of Church and state...motherfarking autocorrect....though I kinda do like that phrase and need to work it in to conversations henceforth


I knew what you meant, but you need to go back farther... like, oh, say to Abraham. Ask a fundamentalist why Abraham paid a tithe to Melchizedek or why Saul, David, and Solomon were not allowed to be both priests and Kings. Their heads practically explode (even while they're criticizing the Vatican for having a priest as head of state).
 
2014-04-25 08:58:21 PM  

Loren: wxboy: Moore has previously claimed that 40 percent of public school students turn away from the church by the end of elementary school and 80 percent by the end of high school.

If that were true, why is Christianity still such a big thing in this country?

Turn away = not totally fundie.


As a liberal Christian I can tell you there are plenty of hard-right Christians who have made it very clear they don't think I'm a true Christian.  So yes, I'm sure I would be counted as being in that claimed 80 percent who have "turned away from the church."
 
2014-04-25 09:04:18 PM  

HawgWild: Huggermugger: anuran: HawgWild: FTFA: He has encouraged Christian families to withdraw their children from public schools and educate them at home or enroll them in religious schools

Because that IS in the Bible. Right next to "the private market has a solution to everything" and "slavery is okay." Jesus Himself said it on the Mount. Wonderful, blonde haired, blue-eyed Jesus.

Actually, the Bible does say that slavery is okay. It sets out a few rules for treating them, but they're pretty minimal. You can even sell your 12-year old daughter as a sex toy if you need to raise some cash.

Oh, you say, that's the Old Testament. What does New Improved Bible 2.0 say? Paul tells slaves to shut the fark up, obey their Masters and pray to Jebus.

Glen Beck says that the Bible is the only textbook needed on school. It holds the answers to every single question!

Alright, Bible. Solve this one!

"At a party, everyone shook hands with everybody else. There were 66 handshakes. How many people were at the party?  "


Just off the top of my head, wouldn't that involve a factorial?  Like 5! or something along those lines?
 
2014-04-25 09:12:10 PM  

ciberido: Just off the top of my head, wouldn't that involve a factorial? Like 5! or something along those lines?


Factorials involve multiplication (5! is 5x4x3x2x1). This involves addition. 66 handshakes means there were 11 people. 11+10+9+8+7+6+5+4+3+2+1.
 
2014-04-25 10:07:58 PM  
Odd though that you never hear fundies mentioning the bible's perspective on surgery while there in the ER.
 
2014-04-25 10:40:34 PM  

flondrix: SquiggsIN: even though God, Allah, and Jehovah are just 3 names of the same being according to the Big 3 monotheistic religions?

You can't even get Catholics and Protestants to agree that they are worshiping the same god, you expect Christans, Jews, and Muslims to agree on something like that?


It's asserted that God the Father and Yahweh are the same person but that would be just convenience.
 
2014-04-25 11:20:01 PM  

rbuzby: Hickory-smoked: Smeggy Smurf: Just think what it'll be like when these ass clowns get their hands on Obamacare.  I'm going to laugh and laugh and laugh when all the leftists that love it find out just how horrific it can be when the government is in control of your very life.

How is it we've gone this far and some people still think the ACA is a massive tyrannical bureaucracy?


It's health insurance.  And some common sense changes like, insurance companies can't deny coverage if you are sick.  But to the paranoids, it's some massive evil government take-over.

I used to schedule appointments for a major medical center in Washington.  One lady told me she wanted me to message her Doctor and tell her she could no longer afford to continue treatment because she lost her job.  She had a serious chronic condition.  I suggested she go to the website and get insurance coverage through the ACA, so she could continue treatment.  She refused because she didn't want to "support" the evil government takeover of health care.  To the detriment of her own health.  That's how brainwashed people are.  It's scary how lies catch on so much easier than the truth.


A lot of people understand why nobody goes to Cuba for the health care.  A lot of people understand why Canadians cross the border for the American health care (pre-Obamacare).  

I don't want the government having a say in my health care.  I don't trust a single one of those unaccountable lazy assholes.  I don't trust any asshole period having the ability to use force against me to have a single say in anything in my life short of making sure I pay a penalty for causing a real and material harm to the life, liberty or property of others through fraud or force.  That is the road to tyranny and using governmental force i.e. men with guns to force me, you, that asshole down the street or anybody else to something against our God given free will.

To be opposed to that is to deny freedom and liberty thus declaring yourself in opposition to the very principals of this country was founded upon.  In other words, unamerican assholes who should be shot in the face or hung until dead as all traitors and fascists deserve.
 
2014-04-25 11:28:21 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: A lot of people understand why Canadians cross the border for the American health care


They don't.
 
2014-04-25 11:36:42 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: A lot of people understand why Canadians cross the border for the American health care (pre-Obamacare)


Do you actually believe this crap??

The vast, vast majority of Canadians would never consider giving up our system for the American system (pre or post Obamacare). We actually like the fact that all Canadians can get the medical help they need without crippling debt. The live-and-let-die philosophy of many Americans is just not the way we think.

The very rare case where Canadians seek foreign care (in many different countries - not just the USA) is because either a treatment is offered that has not been approved domestically or there is a particular doctor or specialist that they want to see.

And as to your idiotic pre-Obamacare comment ... to my knowledge, the Affordable Care Act would have nothing to do with a foreigner coming into the country so seek care from a doctor. No US taxpayer money would be involved.

When you have to lie to defend your position what does that say about your position??
 
2014-04-25 11:50:39 PM  

Danger Avoid Death: SquiggsIN: I wonder if the KKK types who praise Jesus but hate people like Jews see the irony of Jesus being Jewish.

First you'd have to explain the concept of "irony" to them. Good luck with that.


Fanatics tend to have serious clinical irony deficiency
 
2014-04-25 11:58:38 PM  

Aquapope: wxboy: Moore has previously claimed that 40 percent of public school students turn away from the church by the end of elementary school and 80 percent by the end of high school.

If that were true, why is Christianity still such a big thing in this country?

If he had paid attention in the high school math he wants to destroy, he'd realize how ridiculous his 80% number is.  How many generations have been publicly schooled, each one reducing the church population by 80%?


If 80% of public school students turn away from the church by the end of high school, how it is that 70% of the South Carolina population is Christian?
 
2014-04-26 12:17:10 AM  

Copperbelly watersnake: Religious schools were the model for the first 200 years of this country? Did I wake up in some alternative reality? Public education was part of our original state constitution back in 1816.

I guess we can't let little things like facts or reality get in the way of a good rant.


Unfortunately my home state of Virginia didn't follow Thomas Jeffreson's guidance. He begged for free public schools for all children- based on reading , history, and studying languages.

Of course, Taxachussetts beat us to it and implemented truly public education right at statehood.
Damn Yankees
 
2014-04-26 12:21:55 AM  

Wook: It wouldn't be Friday without the obligatory anti-Christian thread.  You poor Farkers have been such victims of such severe Christian oppression over the years...


Millions of decent Christians in this country would be offended at the idea that attacking this clown for his loony views is in any way an attack on them. Why do you hate Christians so much?
 
2014-04-26 12:45:31 AM  

Smeggy Smurf: I don't want the government having a say in my health care.


How do you feel about your employer having a say in your health care?  Because that's the American way, for some reason.

If you have enough money, you can buy the best health care there is.  That's true even in the UK or in Obama's dictatorship.  But if you don't have enough money...it might be nice to be able to get some kind of health care anyway.
 
2014-04-26 12:49:47 AM  

Alicious: If 80% of public school students turn away from the church by the end of high school, how it is that 70% of the South Carolina population is Christian?


62.5% of them drop out and never finish high school?
 
2014-04-26 12:54:11 AM  

Farking Canuck: The vast, vast majority of Canadians would never consider giving up our system for the American system (pre or post Obamacare). We actually like the fact that all Canadians can get the medical help they need without crippling debt. The live-and-let-die philosophy of many Americans is just not the way we think.

The very rare case where Canadians seek foreign care (in many different countries - not just the USA) is because either a treatment is offered that has not been approved domestically or there is a particular doctor or specialist that they want to see.


Also, with most of the Canadian population living close to the US border, sometimes there is an American MRI machine or whatever much, much closer than any Canadian one--so, the Canadian national health care service pays their way for a short trip across the border.  It's called efficiency.

The US is starting to outsource some of its healthcare, too.
 
2014-04-26 12:56:57 AM  

flondrix: Smeggy Smurf: I don't want the government having a say in my health care.

How do you feel about your employer having a say in your health care?  Because that's the American way, for some reason.

If you have enough money, you can buy the best health care there is.  That's true even in the UK or in Obama's dictatorship.  But if you don't have enough money...it might be nice to be able to get some kind of health care anyway.


I pay out of pocket for the small stuff.  My docs give a discount for that.  There is no need to let anybody have a say other than me because 1) I'm not poor and 2) I'm not about to let myself be under the thumb of some asshole that doesn't have my best interest as priority #1.  Damned it's good to not suck at life.
 
2014-04-26 01:04:43 AM  

Smeggy Smurf: I'm not poor


Well, good for farking you.

Damned it's good to not suck at life.

Just curious...do you consider yourself a Christian?  If so, do you think Christ shares your opinion of the poor?
 
2014-04-26 01:37:35 AM  

Smeggy Smurf: There is no need to let anybody have a say other than me because 1) I'm not poor and 2) I'm not about to let myself be under the thumb of some asshole that doesn't have my best interest as priority #1. Damned it's good to not suck at life.


Well my doctor and I make my medical decisions. I do not have the government, an HMO or any other insurance agents trying to save a few bucks at my expense.

And I can't get cut-off - even for the infamous pre-existing conditions.

bornagainpagan.com
 
2014-04-26 09:49:13 AM  

a particular individual: 12.

The formula is the same for calculating triangular numbers: X=(N(n-1))/2. So, 12x11=132. 132/2=66.


Ishkur: Factorials involve multiplication (5! is 5x4x3x2x1). This involves addition. 66 handshakes means there were 11 people. 11+10+9+8+7+6+5+4+3+2+1.


High noon.  Bring your most reliable TI calculator.

/doesn't remember a damn thing about this type of math
//since we're talking bible stuff, can we just cut the extra person in half?
 
2014-04-26 11:13:00 AM  

Smeggy Smurf: Canadians cross the border for the American health care (pre-Obamacare).


Haha. That's a good one.
 
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