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(Washington Post)   Netflix: Yeah, so what if Amazon's got HBO's whole catalog of shows? We'll show them by, um, well...Oh, I know, let's start our own cable channel   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 210
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2014-04-25 08:51:14 AM  
Amazon didn't get HBO's whole catalog of shows. They got certain shows and only episodes that are at least 3 years old.

I'd say that Netflix is doing quite well with its own stable of shows right now, especially after House of Cards and Orange is the New Black.
 
2014-04-25 09:19:59 AM  
....WITH BLACKJACK AND HOOKERS!

ON SECOND THOUGHT, FORGET THE TV STATION!!!
 
2014-04-25 09:20:38 AM  

RexTalionis: Amazon didn't get HBO's whole catalog of shows.

 
2014-04-25 09:23:35 AM  
Not sure how this is a 'fail'ure.
 
hej
2014-04-25 09:46:44 AM  
I'm FAILing to see the FAIL.
 
2014-04-25 09:46:53 AM  

DoctorCal: Not sure how this is a 'fail'ure.


Yeah. I agree. It enables Netflix to get their content out to more people.
 
2014-04-25 09:47:34 AM  

hej: I'm FAILing to see the FAIL.


Expanding your successful business is the hallmark of failure.
 
2014-04-25 09:48:07 AM  

DoctorCal: Not sure how this is a 'fail'ure.


The whole situation is a failure. The way everything gets divided up and locked into different platforms is annoying as hell. Its harder to "ditch that cable bill" when you have to replace it with four services on three devices to get the same content.
 
2014-04-25 09:52:03 AM  
I wonder which rips will be of better quality, the ones where the source is the stream or the ones where the source is the cable channel
 
2014-04-25 09:54:20 AM  

Shostie: DoctorCal: Not sure how this is a 'fail'ure.

Yeah. I agree. It enables Netflix to get their content out to more people.


We'll, not really "more" since you still have to be a Netflix subscriber, but it will give them some nice marketing and it will help them get around broadband data caps, which is probably a big concern of there's.
 
2014-04-25 09:55:41 AM  
The offer is limited to those who are both a customer of the three cable companies and a subscriber to Netflix. In addition, the technology requires a cable-provided TiVo box.

So, this is a joke, right? They really don't want any subscribers but are only interested in trolling.
 
2014-04-25 09:57:34 AM  
This is sort of out of left field, but HBO Go now works on Samsung Smart tvs - if it didn't work for you before.
 
2014-04-25 09:57:48 AM  
I've subscribed to Netflix in some form for around ten years, but I have to say that man alive does their streaming selection of movies BLOW. TV shows, they're great for. Cheap enough still to be worth it, but man their movies suck.
 
2014-04-25 09:58:04 AM  
Isn't Netflix also planning to raise prices again soon?  Seems like they're going into their death throws now...
 
2014-04-25 10:00:30 AM  
Good for Netflix I guess. I just don't understand what their motivation is though. Are there really a large segment of Netflix subscribers saying to themselves: "Gee, if only there were a way to make this Netflix play on my TV instead of my stupid laptop."?
 
2014-04-25 10:03:56 AM  

Shakes: Good for Netflix I guess. I just don't understand what their motivation is though. Are there really a large segment of Netflix subscribers saying to themselves: "Gee, if only there were a way to make this Netflix play on my TV instead of my stupid laptop."?


We had a subscription for our family for about a year. My wife and kid mostly used it to watch TV on their respective computers. I hate watching TV on the laptop, so I didn't mess with it much.

Then we got a smart TV and I use it all the time.
 
2014-04-25 10:06:21 AM  

Shakes: Good for Netflix I guess. I just don't understand what their motivation is though. Are there really a large segment of Netflix subscribers saying to themselves: "Gee, if only there were a way to make this Netflix play on my TV instead of my stupid laptop."?


Yes.

It's for old people who still have dial up, I imagine.

But seriously, it seems its for the older people who just wanna watch the teevee
 
2014-04-25 10:07:32 AM  
"Currently, watching Netflix typically requires the use of a separate retail set-top box (such as TiVo) or another Internet-enabled device. But the Netflix deal, which was years in the making according to RCN chief executive Jim Holanda, allows Netflix subscribers to watch streaming video without switching remotes or inputs on their television. "

So... congratulations... they've just integrated their app into yet another device? Yay, now these people don't need to use a different remote!
 
2014-04-25 10:08:31 AM  
I have both, so I guess I win. I get a student discount on Prime, so all told I'm paying maybe $12 per month. I may add Hulu plus and bring it up to $20. I paid $100 for DirecTv.

The only thing I miss is sports, and while I am a big sports fan, I can't justify paying another $90 a month to watch them.
 
2014-04-25 10:08:49 AM  

Shostie: Shakes: Good for Netflix I guess. I just don't understand what their motivation is though. Are there really a large segment of Netflix subscribers saying to themselves: "Gee, if only there were a way to make this Netflix play on my TV instead of my stupid laptop."?

We had a subscription for our family for about a year. My wife and kid mostly used it to watch TV on their respective computers. I hate watching TV on the laptop, so I didn't mess with it much.

Then we got a smart TV and I use it all the time.


Wii, Xbox or a Playstation.  Even the Wii's limited streaming abilities run it fine.  We've never had a problem with watching it on a TV.  Though sometimes at night I have to kick my wife back to the computer so I can play on the Xbox.
 
2014-04-25 10:09:40 AM  

DoctorCal: Not sure how this is a 'fail'ure.


In early 2008, on the theory that cheap booze and cheap entertainment do well in depressions, I bought Netflix, at about $33 per share. Today it's sitting at $337. I should've bought more.
 
2014-04-25 10:10:00 AM  
All this does is launch the Netflix App if you have one of those cable companies cables boxes and turn to a certain channel.  You still have to be a subscriber to both the cable company and to Netflix.  I mean I guess it's good they have a additional distribution route, but this seems more for people who already don't have one of the many Netflix enabled TVs or devices hooked up to their TV already, or do and can't figure out how to launch the app.

It's not really becoming a 'channel'.

walkerhound: Isn't Netflix also planning to raise prices again soon?  Seems like they're going into their death throws now...


$2 for streaming for a grand total of $10
 
2014-04-25 10:10:05 AM  

RembrandtQEinstein: I wonder which rips will be of better quality, the ones where the source is the stream or the ones where the source is the cable channel


I would assume they're using the same source. This isn't a "cable channel" exactly. It's just a way to access Netflix on-demand using your cable box. Not much different than the netflix app on Roku or your game console.
 
2014-04-25 10:10:06 AM  

Shakes: Good for Netflix I guess. I just don't understand what their motivation is though. Are there really a large segment of Netflix subscribers saying to themselves: "Gee, if only there were a way to make this Netflix play on my TV instead of my stupid laptop."?


Essentially what they did here is make their service available to a new batch of set top devices. It just so happens that the set top devices in this case are sold by cable companies.
 
2014-04-25 10:10:30 AM  
HBO is terrible at content delivery unless you have them as part of your cable package.  DVDs/BRs take months to release, years to make it to streaming.
I figured everyone just watched it through some pirated stream, like Project Free TV.

Or, you know built custom NAS rigs with utorrent, sickbeard, couchpotato, and plex.  Not that I would do something like that, or condone doing something like that.
 
2014-04-25 10:13:19 AM  

Lumbar Puncture: All this does is launch the Netflix App if you have one of those cable companies cables boxes and turn to a certain channel.  You still have to be a subscriber to both the cable company and to Netflix.  I mean I guess it's good they have a additional distribution route, but this seems more for people who already don't have one of the many Netflix enabled TVs or devices hooked up to their TV already, or do and can't figure out how to launch the app.

It's not really becoming a 'channel'.

walkerhound: Isn't Netflix also planning to raise prices again soon?  Seems like they're going into their death throws now...

$2 for streaming for a grand total of $10


Lowering or leaving the price the same would be more of a sign of death throes.  Costs go up for content all the damn time, so it Netflix can't pass that cost on it would be a sign that their audience is unwilling to pay more for the service.
 
2014-04-25 10:13:41 AM  

LemSkroob: DoctorCal: Not sure how this is a 'fail'ure.

The whole situation is a failure. The way everything gets divided up and locked into different platforms is annoying as hell. Its harder to "ditch that cable bill" when you have to replace it with four services on three devices to get the same content.



So do the old fashion response when they try to lock you in through a feeble attempt to protect a dying industry:  Download/steam the content for free.
 
2014-04-25 10:15:31 AM  

walkerhound: Isn't Netflix also planning to raise prices again soon?  Seems like they're going into their death throws now...


Yeah,

I am gone if they raise their prices again.  Not enough decent content for the price as it is.
 
2014-04-25 10:18:06 AM  

WhiskeyBoy: HBO is terrible at content delivery unless you have them as part of your cable package.  DVDs/BRs take months to release, years to make it to streaming.
I figured everyone just watched it through some pirated stream, like Project Free TV.

Or, you know built custom NAS rigs with utorrent, sickbeard, couchpotato, and plex.  Not that I would do something like that, or condone doing something like that.


I am quoting this for science
 
2014-04-25 10:20:06 AM  

dragyne: WhiskeyBoy: HBO is terrible at content delivery unless you have them as part of your cable package.  DVDs/BRs take months to release, years to make it to streaming.
I figured everyone just watched it through some pirated stream, like Project Free TV.

Or, you know built custom NAS rigs with utorrent, sickbeard, couchpotato, and plex.  Not that I would do something like that, or condone doing something like that.

I am quoting this for science


If you're going that route and want to avoid messing with FreeNAS or maintaining your own hardware, grab a Synology. They can be spendy, but damn it if they aren't insanely easy to setup. Just add some community sources to the package manager and every streaming/downloading app you want is a one click install.
 
2014-04-25 10:20:13 AM  
You can watch any proprietary content for free if you really want to and it seems to be getting easier and easier to do, I think companies are going down the wrong road with subscription services for propriety content. IMO They'd be better doing a free service with commercials like hulu does, it's one of the few platforms where you can't get around commercials because they do a constant arms race with the ad block people.
 
2014-04-25 10:21:30 AM  

Lumbar Puncture: walkerhound: Isn't Netflix also planning to raise prices again soon?  Seems like they're going into their death throws now...

$2 for streaming for a grand total of $10


Great, another couple bucks to watch shiatty movies.  Consider me out.

P-Money All $tar:
It's for old people who still have dial up, I imagine.

But seriously, it seems its for the older people who just wanna watch the teevee


Guess I'm old, then.  When I get home from work, I don't want to sit and stare at my computer for a while.


/Come to think of it, I hardly watch TV or Netflix anymore these days, really.  Time to reconsider my options...
 
2014-04-25 10:25:41 AM  

MightyPez: If you're going that route and want to avoid messing with FreeNAS or maintaining your own hardware, grab a Synology.


It's on my shopping list.  They can be a bit pricey, especially the ones with the hardware to do some of the things I'd like to add on to it, like adding a home surveillance system.  For now my cheap-o home-build Windows NASBox will have to do.
 
2014-04-25 10:25:53 AM  

walkerhound: Lumbar Puncture: walkerhound: Isn't Netflix also planning to raise prices again soon?  Seems like they're going into their death throws now...

$2 for streaming for a grand total of $10

Great, another couple bucks to watch shiatty movies.  Consider me out.

P-Money All $tar:
It's for old people who still have dial up, I imagine.

But seriously, it seems its for the older people who just wanna watch the teevee

Guess I'm old, then.  When I get home from work, I don't want to sit and stare at my computer for a while.


/Come to think of it, I hardly watch TV or Netflix anymore these days, really.  Time to reconsider my options...


I've got Netflix and Prime, and I watch them on my TV through the Playstation (which I basically bought as a media player - I hardly ever game).
 
2014-04-25 10:26:45 AM  

walkerhound: When I get home from work, I don't want to sit and stare at my computer for a while.



I have an old laptop hooked up to my HD TV.  IT takes up no more space than a cable box and I can control the laptop through wireless mouse & Icons on the screen.  There is even an app on my phone that lets me use my phone as a mouse & keyboard.
 
2014-04-25 10:28:01 AM  
technicallyeasy.net
+

pic.pandawill.com
+

images.hookbag.ca
= All you need. Cable is obsolete.
 
2014-04-25 10:28:49 AM  
My love life,  That's a FAIL, not this
 
2014-04-25 10:30:49 AM  

walkerhound: Isn't Netflix also planning to raise prices again soon?  Seems like they're going into their death throws now...


Netflix posted good profits... Amazon had revenue gains (which they've had for 20 years now) and shiatty profits... I don't think Amazon getting certain shows, after they're 3 years old or older, really changes that dynamic.
 
2014-04-25 10:32:29 AM  

Shakes: Good for Netflix I guess. I just don't understand what their motivation is though. Are there really a large segment of Netflix subscribers saying to themselves: "Gee, if only there were a way to make this Netflix play on my TV instead of my stupid laptop."?


According to Nielsen, there are more than 21 million households in this country who have cable television but who do not have broadband internet access compared to about 85 million households who have broadband internet.  So if they can get this deal with every cable company, they would increase their potential subscriber base by 25%.  That's a pretty good deal.
 
2014-04-25 10:32:40 AM  
Hey, Netflix - if the Supreme court rules in favor of Aereo, buy them. Then I will give you even more money.
 
2014-04-25 10:32:42 AM  
I have a gaming console, and big screen TV. I don't need no stinking cable box...

But if it gets Netflix's selection to my Aunt Gail and Uncle Brian, good on 'em, because my Uncle really likes his Westerns.
 
2014-04-25 10:34:01 AM  

dragyne: WhiskeyBoy: HBO is terrible at content delivery unless you have them as part of your cable package.  DVDs/BRs take months to release, years to make it to streaming.
I figured everyone just watched it through some pirated stream, like Project Free TV.

Or, you know built custom NAS rigs with utorrent, sickbeard, couchpotato, and plex.  Not that I would do something like that, or condone doing something like that.

I am quoting this for science


http://torguard.net/checkmytorrentipaddress.php

Make sure it comes back with with a well-known chinese IP address.  Disable all your p2p overlay topology nonsense unless you're 100% that gets routed through the chinese proxy as well (it most likely doesn't).  This makes IP based analysis much more difficult.

Encrypt everything so DPI from any intermediary is also fruitless.
 
2014-04-25 10:34:03 AM  
Its only a matter of time before the cable companies to force netflix into forcing us subscribers into watching commercials.
 
2014-04-25 10:36:52 AM  

walkerhound: Isn't Netflix also planning to raise prices again soon?  Seems like they're going into their death throws now...


Hardly so.
 
2014-04-25 10:38:07 AM  

RexTalionis: Amazon didn't get HBO's whole catalog of shows. They got certain shows and only episodes that are at least 3 years old.

I'd say that Netflix is doing quite well with its own stable of shows right now, especially after House of Cards and Orange is the New Black.


They do a lot of stand-up comedy specials too. They're sporadic, but they're great content for fans of the genre.
 
2014-04-25 10:41:00 AM  

P-Money All $tar: Shakes: Good for Netflix I guess. I just don't understand what their motivation is though. Are there really a large segment of Netflix subscribers saying to themselves: "Gee, if only there were a way to make this Netflix play on my TV instead of my stupid laptop."?

Yes.

It's for old people who still have dial up, I imagine.

But seriously, it seems its for the older people who just wanna watch the teevee


Not really.  I had Netflix for a while and now have Amazon prime and cable too of course, but I don't watch tv on my laptop.  I spend all day looking at monitors, at least 9 hours, and when I get home and feel like watching tv, I don't want to watch it on a laptop screen.  Or my phone, or my PC.  My nice tv hanging there on the wall is what I'd like to watch thank you.

It's not just for old people with dial up.
 
2014-04-25 10:41:57 AM  

shtychkn: walkerhound: Isn't Netflix also planning to raise prices again soon?  Seems like they're going into their death throws now...

Yeah,

I am gone if they raise their prices again.  Not enough decent content for the price as it is.


Seriously.

$8 a month is exorbitant and outrageous.

Unless you watch like 2 movies a month. Then it's worth it.

If $10 blows your monthly budget, maybe you should go ahead and give up at $8 service right now. The library has free DVDs
 
2014-04-25 10:42:29 AM  

walkerhound: Isn't Netflix also planning to raise prices again soon?  Seems like they're going into their death throws now...


img2.wikia.nocookie.net

This kind of "death throw"?

/spelling on the internet is going through its death throes
//Netflix is doing just fine
 
2014-04-25 10:42:51 AM  
I love Netflix. Ditched cable over 6 years ago, got an antenna for the local stations and a Netflix subscription. Why bother with cable? Even YouTube has some decent shows to watch (Mayday:air disasters, kitchen nightmares, all in the family, welcome back carter).
 
2014-04-25 10:44:44 AM  
I have Atlantic Broadband while every other town around me has Comcast so I'm laughing maniacally.

/we also get faster speeds than Comcast offers for the same prices
 
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