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2014-04-25 09:23:40 AM  
Doris the finkasaurus.
 
2014-04-25 09:26:28 AM  
People marry into the military for money?
 
2014-04-25 09:29:23 AM  

gnosis301: People marry into the military for money?


Dude, it's basically an industry in the Southeast.
 
2014-04-25 09:31:26 AM  

gnosis301: People marry into the military for money?


Men with a secure government job with benefits and a high chance of dying and leaving it all to you? Sounds like it might attract some unsavory characters to me.
 
2014-04-25 09:31:59 AM  

MFAWG: gnosis301: People marry into the military for money?

Dude, it's basically an industry in the Southeast.


When your only other option is 20 hours a week on the night shift at Piggly-Wiggly, sharing an E-4's salary seems like easy money.
 
2014-04-25 09:33:53 AM  
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Slow news day for these guys?
 
Skr
2014-04-25 09:34:51 AM  

gnosis301: People marry into the military for money?


Well, at least in my small anecdotal experience, people already in the Military can marry for money. Added housing allowance and such with a spouse.
 
2014-04-25 09:36:12 AM  
So who are the people behind these spouse shaming pages?
Many of them are military wives, and some are even active duty soldiers.
 ...
The "actions" she tries to expose through "dependa" shaming include wives who cheat on their husbands, wives who take advantage of government handouts, even wives who use their "military spouse" title to scam others.


So, it's military spouses disciplining each other.  I really don't see what the problem is here.
 
2014-04-25 09:36:39 AM  
Officer and a Gentleman?
 
2014-04-25 09:36:39 AM  
This Facebook business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it.  You just wait until they discover Twitter, it will be the death of us all

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2014-04-25 09:37:52 AM  

gnosis301: People marry into the military for money?


When you're a poor kid from the projects, or from Appalachia, 1500 a month (E-1 with less than 2 years), plus medical, dental, and a housing allowance looks pretty goddamn good.  I just did our taxes, my wife is an O-3.  She made, counting housing allowances (which is tax free), language proficiency pay, and her base pay, a bit over $100,000.  And this was with no imminent danger pay or anything because she didn't deploy this year.  Her base pay (O-4, over 8 years, but less than 10) was over $75,000.  And again, no healthcare costs, a pension fund she doesn't have to pay into... It's pretty good money.  I never understood the spouses who biatched about how hard it was to make it on a military pay check.
 
2014-04-25 09:38:49 AM  

unfarkingbelievable: Officer and or a Gentleman?


In my military experience, it's one or the other.

/not all were arsehats
//only most of them
 
2014-04-25 09:39:00 AM  

devildog123: gnosis301: People marry into the military for money?

When you're a poor kid from the projects, or from Appalachia, 1500 a month (E-1 with less than 2 years), plus medical, dental, and a housing allowance looks pretty goddamn good.  I just did our taxes, my wife is an O-3.  She made, counting housing allowances (which is tax free), language proficiency pay, and her base pay, a bit over $100,000.  And this was with no imminent danger pay or anything because she didn't deploy this year.  Her base pay (O-4, over 8 years, but less than 10) was over $75,000.  And again, no healthcare costs, a pension fund she doesn't have to pay into... It's pretty good money.  I never understood the spouses who biatched about how hard it was to make it on a military pay check.


99 times out of a 100 the people that biatch about low military pay have never had a civilian job.
 
2014-04-25 09:39:10 AM  

devildog123: gnosis301: People marry into the military for money?

When you're a poor kid from the projects, or from Appalachia, 1500 a month (E-1 with less than 2 years), plus medical, dental, and a housing allowance looks pretty goddamn good.  I just did our taxes, my wife is an O-3  4, she got promoted earlier this year.  She made, counting housing allowances (which is tax free), language proficiency pay, and her base pay, a bit over $100,000.  And this was with no imminent danger pay or anything because she didn't deploy this year.  Her base pay (O-4, over 8 years, but less than 10) was over $75,000.  And again, no healthcare costs, a pension fund she doesn't have to pay into... It's pretty good money.  I never understood the spouses who biatched about how hard it was to make it on a military pay check.

 
2014-04-25 09:40:48 AM  

devildog123: devildog123: gnosis301: People marry into the military for money?

When you're a poor kid from the projects, or from Appalachia, 1500 a month (E-1 with less than 2 years), plus medical, dental, and a housing allowance looks pretty goddamn good.  I just did our taxes, my wife is an O-3  4, she got promoted earlier this year.  She made, counting housing allowances (which is tax free), language proficiency pay, and her base pay, a bit over $100,000.  And this was with no imminent danger pay or anything because she didn't deploy this year.  Her base pay (O-4, over 8 years, but less than 10) was over $75,000.  And again, no healthcare costs, a pension fund she doesn't have to pay into... It's pretty good money.  I never understood the spouses who biatched about how hard it was to make it on a military pay check.


I think this is a legit claim to "Wife-Like Typing Detected". Damn right the new 0-4 is going to let you know!
 
2014-04-25 09:44:14 AM  
And it still comes for free
 
2014-04-25 09:44:21 AM  
I am happy to call them out online, I know a couple dependas that deserve to be given shiat. They think they serve the same as their spouse, nope sorry... suck it up buttercup
 
2014-04-25 09:46:47 AM  

Wellon Dowd: MFAWG: gnosis301: People marry into the military for money?

Dude, it's basically an industry in the Southeast.

When your only other option is 20 hours a week on the night shift at Piggly-Wiggly, sharing an E-4's salary seems like easy money.


Plus they have the opportunity to whore around at the college bars while their husband is deployed.

/Went to college near an Air Force base, you could spot an Air Force wife on the prowl very quickly.
 
2014-04-25 10:02:28 AM  
So much for the solidarity of military wives.

Did not know wives wore rank, but then, I've not been there.
 
2014-04-25 10:08:02 AM  
I had a friend of mine get hooked by a grotopotamous. He's never been the same.
 
2014-04-25 10:10:22 AM  

bmwericus: So much for the solidarity of military wives.

Did not know wives wore rank, but then, I've not been there.


Most don't.  Some do however.  They tend to be the ones who have never done anything but pop out kids.  No job, no education, no personal accomplishments.  They're the ones who will act like their husband's career is their own, because they don't have anything to talk about themselves.

What_do_you_want_now: devildog123: devildog123: gnosis301: People marry into the military for money?

When you're a poor kid from the projects, or from Appalachia, 1500 a month (E-1 with less than 2 years), plus medical, dental, and a housing allowance looks pretty goddamn good.  I just did our taxes, my wife is an O-3  4, she got promoted earlier this year.  She made, counting housing allowances (which is tax free), language proficiency pay, and her base pay, a bit over $100,000.  And this was with no imminent danger pay or anything because she didn't deploy this year.  Her base pay (O-4, over 8 years, but less than 10) was over $75,000.  And again, no healthcare costs, a pension fund she doesn't have to pay into... It's pretty good money.  I never understood the spouses who biatched about how hard it was to make it on a military pay check.

I think this is a legit claim to "Wife-Like Typing Detected". Damn right the new 0-4 is going to let you know!


I wish she had the time and ability to Fark during the day.  She works on a compound attached to Fort Meade where that sort of thing is HIGHLY discouraged.
 
2014-04-25 10:17:15 AM  
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2014-04-25 10:23:54 AM  
Puget debs.
 
2014-04-25 10:24:33 AM  

johnperkins: [terminallance.com image 700x355]


I think I know the E-4 whose wife posed for that.

Generally, the lower the ASVAB required for the rate/specialty/MOS, the more likely you are to see this.  OTOH, I have seen some officers' spouses who were ambulatory train-wrecks.
 
2014-04-25 10:27:11 AM  
It's scary how common it is in the active duty military.   Kid goes to basic, and next thing you know, every hambeast from his hometown is clamoring to get out of Alabama.  He's dumb enough to agree to it; every kid is.  He gets to live outside the dorms, doesn't have to travel alone, and he gets paid extra for it.

He then gets to sit on his phone receiving texts from his single friends.   While they are out exploring Aviano, Italy... he sits across from the dependapotamus eating at the base's Pizza Hut for the 4th night this week.

Wash it down with tears, son.
 
2014-04-25 10:28:16 AM  

gnosis301: People marry into the military for money?


Or status, apparently. TMYK.
 
2014-04-25 10:30:51 AM  
Reminds me of some Groton, CT Sub Base specific terms:  Grotopotamus and Grottweiler.
 
2014-04-25 10:34:20 AM  

devildog123: gnosis301: People marry into the military for money?

When you're a poor kid from the projects, or from Appalachia, 1500 a month (E-1 with less than 2 years), plus medical, dental, and a housing allowance looks pretty goddamn good.  I just did our taxes, my wife is an O-3.  She made, counting housing allowances (which is tax free), language proficiency pay, and her base pay, a bit over $100,000.  And this was with no imminent danger pay or anything because she didn't deploy this year.  Her base pay (O-4, over 8 years, but less than 10) was over $75,000.  And again, no healthcare costs, a pension fund she doesn't have to pay into... It's pretty good money.   I never understood the spouses who biatched about how hard it was to make it on a military pay check.


You try raising kids on an E-1 pay. Officers' spouses never seen to think that part through
 
2014-04-25 10:36:51 AM  
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2014-04-25 10:41:34 AM  

gnosis301: People marry into the military for money?


Used to be:  10 years and one day and you get half the retirement.  New a few who got divorced around the ten year anniversary.  If you do it right, you can marry another GI and get half of his retirement too.
 
2014-04-25 10:42:04 AM  

Laobaojun: johnperkins: [terminallance.com image 700x355]

I think I know the E-4 whose wife posed for that.

Generally, the lower the ASVAB required for the rate/specialty/MOS, the more likely you are to see this.  OTOH, I have seen some officers' spouses who were ambulatory train-wrecks.


The best part is when some Colonel decides to divorce his wife to trade her in for a younger model with no class, education, refinement, but she has a great pair of tits and probably sucks a mean dick.

Seeing some 22-year old skank in trashy club-clothes on the arm of a Brigade Commander at a formal dining-in is priceless.
 
2014-04-25 10:42:41 AM  

devildog123: devildog123: gnosis301: People marry into the military for money?

When you're a poor kid from the projects, or from Appalachia, 1500 a month (E-1 with less than 2 years), plus medical, dental, and a housing allowance looks pretty goddamn good.  I just did our taxes, my wife is an O-3  4, she got promoted earlier this year.  She made, counting housing allowances (which is tax free), language proficiency pay, and her base pay, a bit over $100,000.  And this was with no imminent danger pay or anything because she didn't deploy this year.  Her base pay (O-4, over 8 years, but less than 10) was over $75,000.  And again, no healthcare costs, a pension fund she doesn't have to pay into... It's pretty good money.  I never understood the spouses who biatched about how hard it was to make it on a military pay check.


The people (in the military anyway) who are complaining about how hard it is to make it on military pay tend to have an 'E' in front of their '3's, not 'O'.

Then again, most of the senior enlisted I've met were doing alright too.

It comes down to age, wisdom, experience, and patience.
 
2014-04-25 10:44:37 AM  

TinaSumthing: devildog123: gnosis301: People marry into the military for money?

When you're a poor kid from the projects, or from Appalachia, 1500 a month (E-1 with less than 2 years), plus medical, dental, and a housing allowance looks pretty goddamn good.  I just did our taxes, my wife is an O-3.  She made, counting housing allowances (which is tax free), language proficiency pay, and her base pay, a bit over $100,000.  And this was with no imminent danger pay or anything because she didn't deploy this year.  Her base pay (O-4, over 8 years, but less than 10) was over $75,000.  And again, no healthcare costs, a pension fund she doesn't have to pay into... It's pretty good money.   I never understood the spouses who biatched about how hard it was to make it on a military pay check.

You try raising kids on an E-1 pay. Officers' spouses never seen to think that part through


They never seem to be able to afford their kids, but they and their spouses can afford their pack or two a day cigarette habit, tats covering every inch of exposed skin, and the iPhones that they're talking on while heading to the nicer cars than my wife and I have.  Base medical will GIVE you birth control for free.  1 kid on E-1, E-2 pay, I get it, shiat happens.  The chick biatching about raising her 3 or 4 kids on E-4 pay needs to STFU, close her legs, and get a job.
 
2014-04-25 10:45:02 AM  

devildog123: When you're a poor kid from the projects, or from Appalachia, 1500 a month (E-1 with less than 2 years), plus medical, dental, and a housing allowance looks pretty goddamn good. I just did our taxes, my wife is an O-3. She made, counting housing allowances (which is tax free), language proficiency pay, and her base pay, a bit over $100,000. And this was with no imminent danger pay or anything because she didn't deploy this year. Her base pay (O-4, over 8 years, but less than 10) was over $75,000. And again, no healthcare costs, a pension fund she doesn't have to pay into... It's pretty good money. I never understood the spouses who biatched about how hard it was to make it on a military pay check.


It's funny how no one ever talks about how the armed forces is like a giant make-work welfare scheme during peacetime. Sure, there's a chance something will blow up and you might get sent overseas to get shot, but most of the time it's basically goldbricking on a base waiting for a promotion.

Don't get me wrong, the military is a necessary evil, but it's the biggest entitlement transfer around.
 
2014-04-25 10:45:41 AM  
I've seen things.

things.
 
2014-04-25 10:51:46 AM  
CSB

The General's wife allowed the NCO wives club to use her home for one of their meetings. A local TV reporter was going to speak there. She had an E-6 who looked like he was going to drop over dead at any moment. She kept ordering him around. "Make sure the ladies leave their shoes at the door. Get more ice. He and I were the only ones there who were allowed to wear shoes because we were in uniform (I was with the public affairs office). But if she could have gotten her hubby to make an exception...

The women come in and start gushing about the house. "Oh, it's so nice." "My what a wonderful home." During the prayer, the general's wife is blessed right up there next to Jebus. The meeting begins and the TV guy makes his speech and I get a couple of photos.

But that very afternoon, I bet there were a bunch of E-5s and E-6s who got blind sided by "Why the hell couldn't you have been an officer? Do you know how they live? What a nice house they have?" when they walked through the door.
 
2014-04-25 10:58:00 AM  

devildog123: gnosis301: People marry into the military for money?

When you're a poor kid from the projects, or from Appalachia, 1500 a month (E-1 with less than 2 years), plus medical, dental, and a housing allowance looks pretty goddamn good.  I just did our taxes, my wife is an O-3.  She made, counting housing allowances (which is tax free), language proficiency pay, and her base pay, a bit over $100,000.  And this was with no imminent danger pay or anything because she didn't deploy this year.  Her base pay (O-4, over 8 years, but less than 10) was over $75,000.  And again, no healthcare costs, a pension fund she doesn't have to pay into... It's pretty good money.  I never understood the spouses who biatched about how hard it was to make it on a military pay check.


O pay grades are a lot better than lower enlisted. Thing about active duty is, it's a lot harder to get promoted unless you're in a combat oriented MOS, so a lot of of the husbands will end up stuck at E-4 for ages or until they get out. It's still DECENT money but once you add in some kids it can get stretched.

I feel really bad for a lot of military spouses and think they deserve support because it's a hard gig (especially during deployments), but I also agree that there are a lot of women who get into it for the financial reasons and then screw over their spouse in a variety of ways. I'm sure men do it to female soldiers too but given the enlistment ratio, i doubt it's as common.
 
2014-04-25 10:58:26 AM  

theorellior: It's funny how no one ever talks about how the armed forces is like a giant make-work welfare scheme during peacetime. Sure, there's a chance something will blow up and you might get sent overseas to get shot, but most of the time it's basically goldbricking on a base waiting for a promotion.

Don't get me wrong, the military is a necessary evil, but it's the biggest entitlement transfer around.


I mostly agree. One, I also see the military as a huge, relatively efficient (wince) welfare/work training program. Two, I find it shocking and weird that people wouldn't be clamoring to hire vets. They've already been trained! Three, I consider the military as a necessary good, but YMMV obviously. Four, according to the White House Tax Receipt thing this year, "Healthcare" edged out "Military" on spending, but Veteran's Benefits and Community Healthcare (I think?) where separated out, so it was hard to say for sure.
 
2014-04-25 10:58:38 AM  
"Dependapotamus" is an utterly fantastic word.
 
2014-04-25 11:00:03 AM  
I knew an E-2 that blew his deployment bonus on a new Mustang then complained he had no money for bills, his wife was none to happy, didnt end well.

Friend of mine married an E-3 and they have had a couple kids last time I talked to her she was in Texas with him and she hated the other wives there.
 
2014-04-25 11:01:16 AM  
Stay at home Military wives are the worst. It's a community of backstabbing, gossip, bitterness and betrayal. Divorce rates are high. The housing is terrible. The kids are brats. Ugh.

Stop reminding me of my childhood.
 
2014-04-25 11:04:47 AM  

PanicMan: Stay at home Military wives are the worst. It's a community of backstabbing, gossip, bitterness and betrayal. Divorce rates are high. The housing is terrible. The kids are brats. Ugh.

Stop reminding me of my childhood.


They went private with the housing over the past 5-10 years.  It's actually pretty good these days.  Otherwise, yeah, the stay at home wives are pretty much just like that.  One of the reasons I like to get a job, any job when my wife PCS's.
 
2014-04-25 11:06:58 AM  

groppet: I knew an E-2 that blew his deployment bonus on a new Mustang then complained he had no money for bills, his wife was none to happy, didnt end well.

Friend of mine married an E-3 and they have had a couple kids last time I talked to her she was in Texas with him and she hated the other wives there.


That's pretty standard.  A lot of dudes blow their combat pay and re-enlistment bonus on muscle cars, monster trucks, rally cars, motorcycles, boats, ATVs, and guns.  The sad part is when they had these big plans to get out and go to college on the G.I. Bill, and they end up re-enlisting (not by choice) because they're dead broke.
 I remember a few guys in my platoon busted my balls because my grand expenditure after a tour in Iraq was a dining room table.
 
2014-04-25 11:10:43 AM  

Aidan: I mostly agree. One, I also see the military as a huge, relatively efficient (wince) welfare/work training program. Two, I find it shocking and weird that people wouldn't be clamoring to hire vets. They've already been trained! Three, I consider the military as a necessary good, but YMMV obviously. Four, according to the White House Tax Receipt thing this year, "Healthcare" edged out "Military" on spending, but Veteran's Benefits and Community Healthcare (I think?) where separated out, so it was hard to say for sure.


It's not for nothing that the US government is likened to an insurance company with an army attached.

To be sure, I'm not saying it's a bad thing, we need a military for a plethora of reasons, but it's a very large expense. Eisenhower said it best: every munition made means a widget was not made, and munitions do nothing but blow up, destroying the investment, while widgets come in all shapes and sizes and can assist in making more widgets. And it's also a huge form of corporate welfare, which leads to entrenched interests and lessened efficiency.

What really gets stuck in my craw is the people and politicians who elevate military service as heroic and patriotic and then turn around and pay a pittance to active members, use and abuse them in wars of convenience, cut veteran's benefits, and farm out contracts to private mercenary outfits who get four times the pay as your average grunt.
 
2014-04-25 11:12:28 AM  

theorellior: What really gets stuck in my craw is the people and politicians who elevate military service as heroic and patriotic and then turn around and pay a pittance to active members, use and abuse them in wars of convenience, cut veteran's benefits, and farm out contracts to private mercenary outfits who get four times the pay as your average grunt.


Newsletter, etc...
 
2014-04-25 11:14:53 AM  

Sgt Otter: groppet: I knew an E-2 that blew his deployment bonus on a new Mustang then complained he had no money for bills, his wife was none to happy, didnt end well.

Friend of mine married an E-3 and they have had a couple kids last time I talked to her she was in Texas with him and she hated the other wives there.

That's pretty standard.  A lot of dudes blow their combat pay and re-enlistment bonus on muscle cars, monster trucks, rally cars, motorcycles, boats, ATVs, and guns.  The sad part is when they had these big plans to get out and go to college on the G.I. Bill, and they end up re-enlisting (not by choice) because they're dead broke.
 I remember a few guys in my platoon busted my balls because my grand expenditure after a tour in Iraq was a dining room table.


I've often thought a BCT graduation requirement should be a money management course. We had one guy, in the RESERVES even, who got all pissy when he came back in and his drill paychecks were next to nothing; he didn't know why. We started looking into it and it turned out he owed the PX like $1200, but he got out and stopped paying it.

/massive facepalm
 
2014-04-25 11:19:03 AM  

StupidFly: While they are out exploring Aviano, Italy... he sits across from the dependapotamus eating at the base's Pizza Hut for the 4th night this week.


I saw exactly that in Wurzburg when I visited the base, except it was at Burger King and there were at least four kids crawling around each table.
 
2014-04-25 11:28:11 AM  
The scam in the 60s near bases was this;
1)Find some dumb draftee off to Vietnam soon, convince him you love him and he should marry you so you'll be supported during his tour.
2) While he's off getting shot at in the paddies, work on finding his replacement.
3) if he gets killed, collect survivor benefits. If not, divorce him and move on to the next sap.
4) repeat as often as you can while the war rages

Business was good for some of these gals.
 
2014-04-25 11:28:33 AM  

dewright_ca: I am happy to call them out online, I know a couple dependas that deserve to be given shiat. They think they serve the same as their spouse, nope sorry... suck it up buttercup


I used to work for a Group Commander (USAF O-6). He told me a funny story that happened when he was an O-4, the XO for a Base Commander.  Apparently, all the new officer's wives were invited to a meeting.  The General told them to arrange themselves by rank.  The women shuffled around  -"My husband's a Major, mine's a Captain, mines a Lt Col...etc". Once they were settled in, the General said to them "First thing, ladies, your husbands have rank. You don't".  They were pretty pissed off.

/Half of a dual military couple.
 
2014-04-25 11:29:59 AM  
Rand Paul will fix this.  There is no reason we should be paying taxes to support our pampered military.   I'm sick of them suckling off federal gubmint teat!

And farmers.  Fark them.
 
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