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(KWQC Quad Cities)   First grader stabs classmate with hypodermic needle, and the school nurse told the girl's family "the needle looked clean so there's nothing to worry about"   (kwqc.com) divider line 65
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2014-04-24 11:28:59 PM
I wiped the HIV on my pants first.
 
2014-04-25 12:09:50 AM
"Looked clean"?

Seriously, WTF??
 
2014-04-25 12:16:30 AM
FTFA: But her grandmother says what happened next was even harder to take.  She says she sat down with the head nurse, "I was told, it looks clean, that's what she said." And Draughn says, she sat down with the principal too. "He said, well Doreen, there's nothing else I can do about it. We don't know where the needle came from."

and then:

FTFA: They immediately washed the little girl's hand with soap and water, and talked to parents and guardians, suggesting all three students see their doctors. They tell us the needle is now secured in a bio-hazard bag and locked in a secure location.

So, pretty much not at all what the headline says.  Yes, the nurse said it looked clean, which can be a statement of fact, because the syringe could have been obviously filled with something that looked unclean, or the needle could have been dirty, etc.  However, the nurse's assessment of the cleanliness of the needle was not intended to be advice to not worry about the situation, as evidence by the school recommending the families consult with their doctors and the school containing the needle to be examined.

Really, I'm not sure what else the parents expect the school to do in this situation.  A kid found a needle on the ground on his way to school, picked it up, and stuck someone with it.  They reacted in the best way they could and notified the parents.
 
2014-04-25 01:29:28 AM

Bathia_Mapes: "Looked clean"?

Seriously, WTF??


What, you can't identify microorganisms with the naked eye?
 
2014-04-25 02:42:36 AM

fusillade762: Bathia_Mapes: "Looked clean"?

Seriously, WTF??

What, you can't identify microorganisms with the naked eye?


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2014-04-25 03:40:07 AM
Merv Griffin?
 
2014-04-25 06:55:25 AM
Is the school nurse even an RN? Or is is just some nice lady whose job is to be the 'school nurse'?
 
2014-04-25 07:00:38 AM
vernonFL:

Is the school nurse even an RN? Or is is just some nice lady whose job is to be the 'school nurse' when she isn't serving lunch in the cafeteria.?

/FTFY
 
2014-04-25 07:06:55 AM

Bathia_Mapes: "Looked clean"?

Seriously, WTF??


I can not "THIS" THIS enough.
 
2014-04-25 07:23:49 AM
NeiyShawn Sidney? Srsly? Is that a name or a typo, I can't tell...?
 
Skr
2014-04-25 07:27:49 AM
shiat, girl has got the cooties now. Gonna have to put her down.

/that's what happens when a boy pricks a girl, right?
 
2014-04-25 07:36:35 AM

sno man: Bathia_Mapes: "Looked clean"?

Seriously, WTF??

I can not "THIS" THIS enough.


What they said.
that.
 
2014-04-25 07:36:39 AM
I hope the nurse's hands look clean before she examined the child.
 
2014-04-25 07:37:25 AM

TuteTibiImperes: FTFA: But her grandmother says what happened next was even harder to take.  She says she sat down with the head nurse, "I was told, it looks clean, that's what she said." And Draughn says, she sat down with the principal too. "He said, well Doreen, there's nothing else I can do about it. We don't know where the needle came from."

and then:

FTFA: They immediately washed the little girl's hand with soap and water, and talked to parents and guardians, suggesting all three students see their doctors. They tell us the needle is now secured in a bio-hazard bag and locked in a secure location.

So, pretty much not at all what the headline says.  Yes, the nurse said it looked clean, which can be a statement of fact, because the syringe could have been obviously filled with something that looked unclean, or the needle could have been dirty, etc.  However, the nurse's assessment of the cleanliness of the needle was not intended to be advice to not worry about the situation, as evidence by the school recommending the families consult with their doctors and the school containing the needle to be examined.

Really, I'm not sure what else the parents expect the school to do in this situation.  A kid found a needle on the ground on his way to school, picked it up, and stuck someone with it.  They reacted in the best way they could and notified the parents.


Too late, the outrage train is rolling, and there's no stopping that thing.
 
2014-04-25 07:40:02 AM
"...she sat down with the head nurse, "I was told, it looks clean, that's what she said."

Nurse needs to be fired.  What a colossal ignoramus.
 
2014-04-25 07:42:33 AM
They tell us the needle is now secured in a bio-hazard bag and locked in a secure location. As of Monday, it had not been tested. No word on why not.

Because they're lying, they don't have that needle anymore.
 
2014-04-25 07:43:08 AM

Cold_Sassy: "...she sat down with the head nurse, "I was told, it looks clean, that's what she said."

Nurse needs to be fired.  What a colossal ignoramus.


You sound like you hate government, probably unionized,  employees.  Take your 1%er attitude eleswhere.
 
2014-04-25 07:46:36 AM
maddermaxx:

Too late, the outrage train is rolling, and there's no stopping that thing.

Yeah, the "outrage train" is rolling, how about this?

FTFA:   "it's possible" the first grader was stuck. Two weeks later, you can't see any mark,"

Well who the fark waits two weeks and then simply offers:  " You can't see any mark."  That's lame as fark.

Brilliant.
 
2014-04-25 07:46:44 AM
FT Headline:

First grader stabs classmate with hypodermic needle, and the school
nurse told...

Stabs, present tense and then told, past tense? So one of these people is a time traveller?
 
2014-04-25 07:46:48 AM

fusillade762: Bathia_Mapes: "Looked clean"?

Seriously, WTF??

What, you can't identify microorganisms with the naked eye?


Calm down . It is not like the kid brought a toy gun, a gun shaped pastry or pretended to have a gun, all of which would have resulted in suspension if not expulsion.  This was just a hypodermic needle which, it would seem, is not covered by any zero tolerance policy.

In fact if the school simply had a clean needle program for its first graders this all could have been avoided.
 
2014-04-25 07:48:36 AM
Heh.  That's what she said
 
2014-04-25 07:49:49 AM

hasty ambush: Cold_Sassy: "...she sat down with the head nurse, "I was told, it looks clean, that's what she said."

Nurse needs to be fired.  What a colossal ignoramus.

You sound like you hate government, probably unionized,  employees.  Take your 1%er attitude eleswhere.


You sound like you're trying too hard.
 
2014-04-25 07:49:53 AM
I had a guy in Amsterdam try to rob me with a hypodermic needle.  Kind of terrifying.
 
2014-04-25 07:54:15 AM
 District representatives now say the student found the needle on his walk to school.

Geez that is scary. Dropped by some aids and hep riddled junkie.
 
2014-04-25 08:02:15 AM
To be fair, a dirty needle is usually obvious by stuff left up by the needle lock and at the bottom of the barrel.

Ask any nurse who uses hypos.

Saying it looks clean isn't the same as saying it is clean.
 
2014-04-25 08:05:34 AM
hmmm ok... so let me get this straight...

Stabbing another student with a hypodermic needle = OK

Biting a pop-tart into a shape that roughly resembles a gun = BAD


Hmmm...
 
2014-04-25 08:10:15 AM
TuteTibiImperes:   Really, I'm not sure what else the parents expect the school to do in this situation.  A kid found a needle on the ground on his way to school, picked it up, and stuck someone with it.  They reacted in the best way they could and notified the parents.


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2014-04-25 08:12:47 AM
The school definitely should have chopped the kids arm off just in case the needle wasn't clean. It's the only way to be sure.
 
2014-04-25 08:18:00 AM
And we do know the student who brought the syringe to school has been disciplined. District representatives are not saying how.

Must be a rich kids. Other kids are expelled for drawing a picture of a gun.
 
2014-04-25 08:20:30 AM
Bet the nurse is fat.
 
2014-04-25 08:32:50 AM

bighairyguy: vernonFL:

Is the school nurse even an RN? Or is is just some nice lady whose job is to be the 'school nurse' when she isn't serving lunch in the cafeteria.?

/FTFY


At my son's school, it's an LPN. She's been fired from a hospital and a local nursing home (because she's "always sick"... I went to high school with her and apparently her hypochondriac ways have not changed in 20 years), yet she got the job at the school.... I dare say the pay rate isn't all that great for school nurses. They probably don't get the top candidates.
 
hej
2014-04-25 08:34:11 AM
Trolly fake quotes in headlines should be grounds for repeated gonad bludgeoning,  subby.
 
2014-04-25 08:40:38 AM
I'm all for bashing the idiots that work for public schools when they fark up, but this isn't one of those times.

* Student was checked for immediate issues and the wound was cleaned as well as possible at the scene.
* Parents were immediately notified.
* Parents/guardians were informed to take the child to a real doctor asap.

For those bashing the school/nurse's actions, WTF more could/should they have done? Be specific, and even though this is fark, try to be reasonable.
 
2014-04-25 08:41:32 AM
vernonFL


Is the school nurse even an RN? Or is is just some nice lady whose job is to be the 'school nurse'?

I am pretty sure in most schools they don't hire real nurses since their capacity is Tylenol (with parental approval) and an ice pack. Dial 911 for anything worse.
 
2014-04-25 08:45:39 AM
Say a prayer to St. Francis of a cc.
 
2014-04-25 08:47:10 AM

The Pope of Manwich Village: Say a prayer to St. Francis of a cc.


STAT!
 
2014-04-25 08:54:47 AM
NeiyShawn

Is this patronymic?
 
2014-04-25 08:54:58 AM
What's wrong with what the nurse said?  She doesn't have the equipment to test it so from just the looks you can tell if a needle is clean.  Just because it's clean doesn't mean it's not safe that's why she said they should see a doctor.  Did they go to the doctors and have them request the needle?

Jesus do you guys think school nurses have CSI type equipment in their office?

FTA:

"Two weeks later, you can't see any mark, but NeiyShawn sidney says it happened.

No one disputes there was a syringe at school. No one from the District was available to talk with us on camera, but reps say they take this "extremely seriously". They immediately washed the little girl's hand with soap and water, and talked to parents and guardians, suggesting all three students see their doctors. They tell us the needle is now secured in a bio-hazard bag and locked in a secure location. As of Monday, it had not been tested. No word on why not. Or how the boy was able to bring it into a classroom.

Draughn says she took her granddaughter to a family doctor who drew blood, and wants her to come back in the next several months. And we do know the student who brought the syringe to school has been disciplined. District representatives are not saying how. "


So instead of having them examine the needle they have blood taken.  Why aren't you biatching about your doctor?!
 
2014-04-25 08:56:17 AM

Random Anonymous Blackmail: I am pretty sure in most schools they don't hire real nurses since their capacity is Tylenol (with parental approval) and an ice pack. Dial 911 for anything worse.


If they do hire real nurses, you know they'd have to be the dumbest farking nurses on the planet who farked up and killed a patient or something while working at a hospital because I imagine school nurses get paid shiat.
 
2014-04-25 08:57:22 AM

selena gomez has an anus: Notify a doctor, perform a blood test, cover all bills.


parents took kid to doctor, doctors drew blood, why should they?  If I break a leg at school they don't cover the bills.  It wasn't the schools fault some kid found a needle and brought it in.  How about the kid's parents that found the needle cover the bills.
 
2014-04-25 09:15:23 AM

selena gomez has an anus: Of course it was the school's fault. They allowed the needle on campus. They allowed the assault to take place. And it is not the parents' responsibility to take that child to the doctor. The school needs to make sure that it happens without question. The school is in a position of power here, not the parents. We know nothing about what kind of home life these children have, and it is the responsibility of the stable environment to handle the details of making sure everything is taken care of.


I'm not sure if you are being serious or not.  "They allowed the needle on campus" So strip searches of every student?  Do you really know how small a hypo needle is?

School did what they were supposed to do.  Clean the entry wound, contact parents and refer them to the doctors, safeguard needle if examination by a lab is needed.

If this happened to my kid that is what I would want the school to do.  It's not like they threw away the needle.  Why hasn't the family doctor requested the needle for testing?  Better to wait 2 months for blood work?
 
2014-04-25 09:32:38 AM
What?  No pictures of Lunch Lady Doris?

/I get two paycheques this way.
 
2014-04-25 09:43:48 AM

QueenMamaBee: bighairyguy: vernonFL:

Is the school nurse even an RN? Or is is just some nice lady whose job is to be the 'school nurse' when she isn't serving lunch in the cafeteria.?

/FTFY

At my son's school, it's an LPN. She's been fired from a hospital and a local nursing home (because she's "always sick"... I went to high school with her and apparently her hypochondriac ways have not changed in 20 years), yet she got the job at the school.... I dare say the pay rate isn't all that great for school nurses. They probably don't get the top candidates.


I'm not sure if it's statewide, but for us the school nurse must be an RN. We are never short candidates because of mom - nurses who wish to work school schedule only while their kids are young. It's actually pretty difficult to get a school nurse position around here.

Actually, in some rural poor districts where reliable health care is an issue, there are medical clinics attached to the schools, staffed by at least one Nurse Practitioner. They're full service and are the only health care some of those kids ever see.
 
2014-04-25 09:58:55 AM
What? The school nurse didn't immediately start the kid on the HIV prophylaxis drugs she surely had lying around?! What kind of elementary school are they running, that they can't instantaneously administer treatment for any and all unknown pathogens?

At the very least, she should have surgically removed the kid's liver, to prevent it from succumbing to the hepatitis-C that might have been on that needle.
 
2014-04-25 10:07:55 AM

Random Anonymous Blackmail: vernonFL


Is the school nurse even an RN? Or is is just some nice lady whose job is to be the 'school nurse'?

I am pretty sure in most schools they don't hire real nurses since their capacity is Tylenol (with parental approval) and an ice pack. Dial 911 for anything worse.


Well, they also perform physicals and fondle your balls when you try out for a sports team, at least at my high school.
 
2014-04-25 10:14:11 AM

TuteTibiImperes: Well, they also perform physicals and fondle your balls when you try out for a sports team, at least at my high school.


Yeah, Folsom Prison High, I went there.
 
2014-04-25 10:14:34 AM

namegoeshere: QueenMamaBee: bighairyguy: vernonFL:

Is the school nurse even an RN? Or is is just some nice lady whose job is to be the 'school nurse' when she isn't serving lunch in the cafeteria.?

/FTFY

At my son's school, it's an LPN. She's been fired from a hospital and a local nursing home (because she's "always sick"... I went to high school with her and apparently her hypochondriac ways have not changed in 20 years), yet she got the job at the school.... I dare say the pay rate isn't all that great for school nurses. They probably don't get the top candidates.

I'm not sure if it's statewide, but for us the school nurse must be an RN. We are never short candidates because of mom - nurses who wish to work school schedule only while their kids are young. It's actually pretty difficult to get a school nurse position around here.

Actually, in some rural poor districts where reliable health care is an issue, there are medical clinics attached to the schools, staffed by at least one Nurse Practitioner. They're full service and are the only health care some of those kids ever see.


We are in a fairly poor school district, so that's probably why ours only will pay for an LPN. There are two fairly decent-sized hospitals nearby and they both pay RNs well. When I was in school, the high school nurse was an RN, but I'm not sure about that now.
 
2014-04-25 10:17:49 AM

TuteTibiImperes: Well, they also perform physicals and fondle your balls when you try out for a sports team, at least at my high school.


No they don't that was just your coaches excuse.
 
2014-04-25 10:29:28 AM
As long as there was no vaccine in the syringe. That would have been a tragedy, amirite?
 
2014-04-25 10:43:43 AM
I wonder if anyone ever used the same phrase to describe the nurse
 
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