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(Ars Technica)   How's your Android battery life been lately? Not so good? Wondering why the back is always so damn hot?   (arstechnica.com) divider line 83
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2014-04-24 07:58:56 PM  
I'm not stupid enough to download live wallpapers and apps from dodgy sources.
 
2014-04-24 08:35:36 PM  
Yeah, it was a dodgy update from Samsung that Verizon approved.  Then both admitted they made a mistake but didn't fix it.  For three months.

Then I told them both to screw off and got a Nexus 5 from T-Mobile.  Aaaaaahhhhh....
 
2014-04-24 08:37:57 PM  
I don't even like having many real apps, let alone wallpaper.
 
2014-04-24 09:03:33 PM  
Yeah, I don't install stupid crap ...
 
2014-04-24 09:06:13 PM  
things i use on my phone include, the camera, the calendar, the weather app, and sometimes i play scrabble.
 
2014-04-24 10:01:50 PM  

enry: Yeah, it was a dodgy update from Samsung that Verizon approved.  Then both admitted they made a mistake but didn't fix it.  For three months.

Then I told them both to screw off and got a Nexus 5 from T-Mobile.  Aaaaaahhhhh....


Whoa, whoa, say what now?
 
2014-04-24 10:23:32 PM  
Once I put the Kindle app on my phone I've used like 3 other apps.
 
2014-04-24 10:26:53 PM  

dstanley: enry: Yeah, it was a dodgy update from Samsung that Verizon approved.  Then both admitted they made a mistake but didn't fix it.  For three months.

Then I told them both to screw off and got a Nexus 5 from T-Mobile.  Aaaaaahhhhh....

Whoa, whoa, say what now?


The 4.3 release for the Galaxy S3 is horrible.  After I applied it, my battery life dropped by at least 25%, it would randomly power off when it was in my pocket, messages saying that it couldn't connect to wifi, all really nasty stuff that made it pretty unusable.
 
2014-04-24 10:33:29 PM  

enry: dstanley: enry: Yeah, it was a dodgy update from Samsung that Verizon approved.  Then both admitted they made a mistake but didn't fix it.  For three months.

Then I told them both to screw off and got a Nexus 5 from T-Mobile.  Aaaaaahhhhh....

Whoa, whoa, say what now?

The 4.3 release for the Galaxy S3 is horrible.  After I applied it, my battery life dropped by at least 25%, it would randomly power off when it was in my pocket, messages saying that it couldn't connect to wifi, all really nasty stuff that made it pretty unusable.


Hmm, mines been perfectly fine.
 
2014-04-24 10:35:16 PM  
Interesting in the comments they claim five million high end phones would only do a couple hundred a day. Is that true? Doesn't seem worth the effort if so
 
2014-04-24 10:37:36 PM  
Fine and it's not, but thanks for asking?
 
2014-04-24 10:46:56 PM  
Yes, but it was because my bluetooth function was accidentally enabled.  Also at work I am sitting in a place with worse reception.
 
2014-04-24 10:50:22 PM  
S4 runs cool as a cucumber unless I do gps road navigation or lots of streaming video, which uses up battery pretty quick and heats up the phone. Other wise it easily lasts a full day on a charge
 
2014-04-24 10:52:19 PM  
Hahahahaha
 
2014-04-24 10:55:57 PM  
If you're running a live wallpaper app you clearly don't give a shiat about battery life to begin with, subby.
 
2014-04-24 11:03:17 PM  
Been running Shadow Galaxy live wallpaper by Maxelus for a long time. Have not noticed unusual battery usage. One day I will bite the bullet and buy the planet pack. I've never paid for an app so far.
 
2014-04-24 11:14:33 PM  

enry: The 4.3 release for the Galaxy S3 is horrible.  After I applied it, my battery life dropped by at least 25%, it would randomly power off when it was in my pocket, messages saying that it couldn't connect to wifi, all really nasty stuff that made it pretty unusable.


Same here. My S4 is great, though.
 
2014-04-24 11:15:01 PM  
I thought bad battery life was an android feature?
 
2014-04-24 11:20:54 PM  

Eps05: Been running Shadow Galaxy live wallpaper by Maxelus for a long time. Have not noticed unusual battery usage. One day I will bite the bullet and buy the planet pack. I've never paid for an app so far.


I bought the Galaxy Pack full version and it's been one of the best apps I've bought. Lately I've been rocking the Astronomy Picture of the Day that's another great wallpaper app too.
 
2014-04-24 11:27:20 PM  
Wait wait wait, you guys use stock firmware?

Jesus. That'd be like using Windows as it comes on the new laptop!
 
2014-04-24 11:31:13 PM  

enry: dstanley: enry: Yeah, it was a dodgy update from Samsung that Verizon approved.  Then both admitted they made a mistake but didn't fix it.  For three months.

Then I told them both to screw off and got a Nexus 5 from T-Mobile.  Aaaaaahhhhh....

Whoa, whoa, say what now?

The 4.3 release for the Galaxy S3 is horrible.  After I applied it, my battery life dropped by at least 25%, it would randomly power off when it was in my pocket, messages saying that it couldn't connect to wifi, all really nasty stuff that made it pretty unusable.


I have an S3 too, I rooted mine the day I got it and installed a custom recovery and ROM. It was the best thing I ever did, Kit Kat runs as smooth as butter. Not sure if that is something you want to try or look in to but it makes a world of difference switching from TouchWiz to ASOP.
 
2014-04-24 11:34:43 PM  
Galaxy S3, and while I'm confident that there's no malware involved I have noticed a big dip in battery life since the last update. The weird thing is, it seems incredibly inconsistent - some days I do maybe an hour of browsing and crosswording in total and I'm down to 40% at bedtime, some days I literally don't touch the thing all morning and it's at 60% by lunch. Battery app just says "Screen" and "Android OS" are chewing it up.

Also, Google Play Newsstand completely ignores the setting telling it to not download over my mobile connection, which makes for really fun "You've used 75% of your data!" texts about a week into my billing period. :(
 
2014-04-24 11:38:33 PM  
If you HAVE to root/flash/jailbreak your phone something is farking wrong.
 
2014-04-24 11:46:35 PM  
My HTC M8 is perfect (so far...). No battery issues and I do not install questionable apps/content.

drjekel_mrhyde: If you HAVE to root/flash/jailbreak your phone something is farking wrong.


I do not HAVE to root...but I am considering to get rid of all of the AT&T crap off of my phone.
 
2014-04-24 11:57:04 PM  

NateAsbestos: Wait wait wait, you guys use stock firmware?

Jesus. That'd be like using Windows as it comes on the new laptop!


Windows 7 was almost twice as fast as xp was on my old ass laptop.
 
2014-04-25 12:05:23 AM  

Shakin_Haitian: NateAsbestos: Wait wait wait, you guys use stock firmware?

Jesus. That'd be like using Windows as it comes on the new laptop!

Windows 7 was almost twice as fast as xp was on my old ass laptop.


Windows 7 is great, no doubt. But I'd never use it out-of-the-OEM-box.
 
2014-04-25 12:05:35 AM  
I'm with Wind in Canada, and have found the 4.3 update for my S3 actually improved the battery significantly.

/launch unit as well
 
2014-04-25 12:19:36 AM  
Can someone explain to me in a way that makes some kind of sense what Bitcoin mining actually is? I tried reading about it at one point and still couldn't make heads or tails of it.
 
2014-04-25 12:20:23 AM  

NickelP: Interesting in the comments they claim five million high end phones would only do a couple hundred a day. Is that true? Doesn't seem worth the effort if so


What if you live in a crappy country where 'a couple hundred' USD is a few months (if not a year's) worth of pay?

// bitcoin knows no borders
 
2014-04-25 12:21:39 AM  

NateAsbestos: Shakin_Haitian: NateAsbestos: Wait wait wait, you guys use stock firmware?

Jesus. That'd be like using Windows as it comes on the new laptop!

Windows 7 was almost twice as fast as xp was on my old ass laptop.

Windows 7 is great, no doubt. But I'd never use it out-of-the-OEM-box.


I got a dell netbook that came with ubuntu 9.10 preinstalled.

First step ... wipe their install of Ubuntu and install 10.04 clean from a USB stick.

Fark them and their preinstalled shiat.
 
2014-04-25 12:26:55 AM  
Google (a private company) has pretty much complete knowledge of everyone's personal lives andliberals can't farking stand it (because Google isn't government owned/run).

/let me know when a web site with any credibility reports this nonsense
 
2014-04-25 12:30:40 AM  

Quaker: Can someone explain to me in a way that makes some kind of sense what Bitcoin mining actually is? I tried reading about it at one point and still couldn't make heads or tails of it.


If you do math you get some of the currency ... whichever currency you are mining.

If you get a lot of idiots to install your malware you get all their phones to do the math for you.

They provide the hardware and the power ... you make the money.
 
2014-04-25 12:31:22 AM  

skinbubble: My HTC M8 is perfect (so far...). No battery issues and I do not install questionable apps/content.

drjekel_mrhyde: If you HAVE to root/flash/jailbreak your phone something is farking wrong.

I do not HAVE to root...but I am considering to get rid of all of the AT&T crap off of my phone.


You can't just uninstall it?
/Yeah I'm kinda trolling here
 
2014-04-25 12:33:58 AM  

NateAsbestos: Wait wait wait, you guys use stock firmware?

Jesus. That'd be like using Windows as it comes on the new laptop!


I'm amazed by how many nubs don't have Cy. If you're getting an Android device and using what was force fed to you, you're not only part of the problem, you're a bigger nub than WP8 and IOS users.
 
2014-04-25 12:54:20 AM  

haterade69: NateAsbestos: Wait wait wait, you guys use stock firmware?

Jesus. That'd be like using Windows as it comes on the new laptop!

I'm amazed by how many nubs don't have Cy. If you're getting an Android device and using what was force fed to you, you're not only part of the problem, you're a bigger nub than WP8 and IOS users.


No1curr
 
2014-04-25 01:24:37 AM  

SecretAgentWoman: I'm not stupid enough to download live wallpapers and apps from dodgy sources.


Researchers scouring the official Google Play market have unearthed more Android apps that surreptitiously abuse end-user devices to carry out the computationally intensive process of mining Bitcoins.


You mean the official Google Play store? It's the very first sentence in the article.
 
2014-04-25 01:36:43 AM  

haterade69: waah libruls sob sob


*cat makes fart noises directly at you with paws*
 
2014-04-25 01:51:03 AM  
wallpaper apps

Well thar's yer problem.

If you are dumb enough to need an app to have wallpapers, you deserve it.
 
2014-04-25 02:11:29 AM  

Quaker: Can someone explain to me in a way that makes some kind of sense what Bitcoin mining actually is? I tried reading about it at one point and still couldn't make heads or tails of it.


That's because it's not a real coin. You can't flip it.
 
2014-04-25 02:49:37 AM  

ArcadianRefugee: wallpaper apps

Well thar's yer problem.

If you are dumb enough to need an app to have wallpapers, you deserve it.


This
This is my wallpaper(fresh from GIS img.fark.net
 
2014-04-25 03:01:05 AM  
my typeface is set too small to read this crap.
 
2014-04-25 03:10:50 AM  

lordargent: NickelP: Interesting in the comments they claim five million high end phones would only do a couple hundred a day. Is that true? Doesn't seem worth the effort if so

What if you live in a crappy country where 'a couple hundred' USD is a few months (if not a year's) worth of pay?

// bitcoin knows no borders


Then it would still be really stupid to get your app with five million users shiat canned for putting malware in it when it can do thousands a day in adds or sales.

the couple hundred is the best case too, it is probably less than 50 when you consider down time and that most phones aren't as powerful.
 
2014-04-25 03:42:36 AM  

Eps05: Been running Shadow Galaxy live wallpaper by Maxelus for a long time. Have not noticed unusual battery usage. One day I will bite the bullet and buy the planet pack. I've never paid for an app so far.


Just installed it. Nice. Thanks for tip.
 
2014-04-25 03:42:45 AM  
My phone runs hot and has crappy battery life because it's a two year old phone, and every HTC phone I've had has had battery life and overheating issues toward the end of its life.

/I don't download dodgy apps
//rooted, AOKP KitKat ROM
///the issues persist across multiple ROMS, even after a fresh install
 
2014-04-25 03:58:14 AM  
phone nerds...I use my phone with 2 apps....the built in texting one and the one that makes phone calls.
 
2014-04-25 04:01:10 AM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-04-25 04:04:40 AM  

Quaker: Can someone explain to me in a way that makes some kind of sense what Bitcoin mining actually is? I tried reading about it at one point and still couldn't make heads or tails of it.


It's a peer to peer network of computers all trying to solve a difficult math problem.  When one of those computers (a "miner") finds a solution it broadcasts it to the network, and when the other computers agree that the solution meets the current criteria the network awards the solving computer by increasing their pretend coin balance in a transaction log which every computer has an identical copy of by whatever number the network is configured for, currently 25 in the case of bitcoins.  Within a few seconds all the computers on the network have received that solution and they use it to set up the initial parameters for another difficult math problem.  Repeat ad nauseam about every 10 minutes or so, throw in some extra details about how transactions are shared with every computer on the network and pepper in some cryptography magic to make sure everybody currently has the same exact transaction log and nobody's cheating, and there you go, you have bitcoin.
 
2014-04-25 04:12:06 AM  

Lokasenna: Galaxy S3, and while I'm confident that there's no malware involved I have noticed a big dip in battery life since the last update. The weird thing is, it seems incredibly inconsistent - some days I do maybe an hour of browsing and crosswording in total and I'm down to 40% at bedtime, some days I literally don't touch the thing all morning and it's at 60% by lunch. Battery app just says "Screen" and "Android OS" are chewing it up.

Also, Google Play Newsstand completely ignores the setting telling it to not download over my mobile connection, which makes for really fun "You've used 75% of your data!" texts about a week into my billing period. :(


I don't use mine enough to use too much data, but I hate when it decides to use 3g instead of wi-fi.  Especially when the connection requires login to reestablish. I've taken to turning on airplane mode then turning wi-fi back on.

I haven't downloaded wallpapers,  I usually find the gps struggling to connect from inside a building when I notice the phone is hot and the battery is dead. (galaxy tab 7 and my Motorola defy phone)
 
2014-04-25 04:21:14 AM  
Hmm, I was looking for this site:
http://www.google.com/android/devicemanager
But found this one instead.
http://maps.google.com/locationhistory/b/0
 
2014-04-25 04:21:23 AM  

NickelP: lordargent: NickelP: Interesting in the comments they claim five million high end phones would only do a couple hundred a day. Is that true? Doesn't seem worth the effort if so

What if you live in a crappy country where 'a couple hundred' USD is a few months (if not a year's) worth of pay?

// bitcoin knows no borders

Then it would still be really stupid to get your app with five million users shiat canned for putting malware in it when it can do thousands a day in adds or sales.

the couple hundred is the best case too, it is probably less than 50 when you consider down time and that most phones aren't as powerful.


These are live wallpaper apps, so they don't get many add impressions (who wants a wallpaper with ads). Normally these apps are free, and earn money by having a pro version with more features.

They're also dump apps. So for every one they find, you just grab a bunch of images/visualizations and make two more (until they figure out how to automatically block this sort of thing).

Also, someone posted to the article and did some napkin calculations and figured it would be a max of $36k per day (assuming 5 million devices as powerful as a Galaxy S4, mining 24/7.

// Which, if that's true ... I'm in the wrong business.
 
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