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(Doctor Who TV)   Matt Smith believes that Series 5 of Doctor Who was his best: "... It had great adventure and great clarity and I loved that whole idea about the Pandorica and the Big Bang. It was the one I connected with most"   (doctorwhotv.co.uk) divider line 55
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2014-04-24 02:34:14 PM
S5 had Vincent and the Doctor and The Lodger, which were the best of Smith's run.

So, yeah, season 5 was it.
 
2014-04-24 03:03:47 PM

FirstNationalBastard: S5 had Vincent and the Doctor and The Lodger, which were the best of Smith's run.

So, yeah, season 5 was it.


I agree.  at least he didn't say Series 7.  There was some good there, but a lot of it fell flat with me.
 
2014-04-24 03:08:42 PM
I'd go with Series 6 as the best, but 5 did have some very good episodes.
 
2014-04-24 03:51:44 PM
I'm getting my picture taken with Matt Smith tomorrow.
 
2014-04-24 04:26:23 PM

Rev.K: I'm getting my picture taken with Matt Smith tomorrow.


Tell him we say hi...

/slightly jealous.
//Matt's Doctor grew on me. Really enjoyed season 5
 
2014-04-24 04:27:48 PM
That was by far the best, but it was followed by three-ish years of almost complete shiat.  Smith is kinda like Colin Baker in that he seemed to have a good take on the Doctor, but that we won't be able to know because of the godawful writing.
 
2014-04-24 04:27:50 PM

TuteTibiImperes: I'd go with Series 6 as the best, but 5 did have some very good episodes.


I'm a sucker for River Song, so I really enjoyed 6 as well, but I think 5 had higher heights (Vincent and the Doctor) as well as lower lows (Victory of the Daleks).  6 was more even keeled and as a result a little more predicatable.
 
2014-04-24 04:28:58 PM

FirstNationalBastard: S5 had Vincent and the Doctor and The Lodger, which were the best of Smith's run.

So, yeah, season 5 was it.


This.

Unoriginal_Username: Rev.K: I'm getting my picture taken with Matt Smith tomorrow.

Tell him we say hi...

/slightly jealous.


That.
 
2014-04-24 04:29:15 PM
Rev.K: I'm getting my picture taken with Matt Smith tomorrow.

Cool.  Tell him I said "YO!"

/He'll know who it is.
//Actually he won't.
 
2014-04-24 04:29:40 PM
I also really enjoyed season 5. I think The Eleventh Hour is one of my favorite episodes of the show's run, and it made me instantly like Matt Smith as the new Doctor.
 
2014-04-24 04:39:50 PM

whizbangthedirtfarmer: That was by far the best, but it was followed by three-ish years of almost complete shiat.  Smith is kinda like Colin Baker in that he seemed to have a good take on the Doctor, but that we won't be able to know because of the godawful writing.


b...b..b...But Moffat wrote Blink!
 
2014-04-24 05:02:08 PM
Let me be the guy who says "I'm glad for every new episode, because it's a fun show.  But within that appreciation, most of the last season SUCKED."

/Seriously--most of last year's writing SUCKED, even though the acting was pretty darn good.
 
2014-04-24 05:08:58 PM

fickenchucker: Let me be the guy who says "I'm glad for every new episode, because it's a fun show.  But within that appreciation, most of the last season SUCKED."

/Seriously--most of last year's writing SUCKED, even though the acting was pretty darn good.


I didn't much care for it either, the new companion is boring, and I hated the idea that she was responsible for starting the Doctor on his journey by telling him which Tardis to steal and her saving him every time he was ever in danger. What a crock.
 
2014-04-24 05:10:48 PM

ManateeGag: whizbangthedirtfarmer: That was by far the best, but it was followed by three-ish years of almost complete shiat.  Smith is kinda like Colin Baker in that he seemed to have a good take on the Doctor, but that we won't be able to know because of the godawful writing.

b...b..b...But Moffat wrote Blink!


Yeah and Mario Puzo wrote Superman 2.
 
2014-04-24 05:27:08 PM

Hand Banana: I didn't much care for it either, the new companion is boring, and I hated the idea that she was responsible for starting the Doctor on his journey by telling him which Tardis to steal and her saving him every time he was ever in danger. What a crock.


Except for all of the times he was in danger.  He just didn't listen to her then.

\rolls eyes
 
2014-04-24 05:28:40 PM
As far as Smith goes, he seemed to do a good job, but as the seasons progressed, he started the irritating habit of waving the sonic around like it was a freakin' light saber.  I don't know if it was him or the directors, but even in the 50th anniversary promo, he was swinging it around like a moran.
 
2014-04-24 05:30:14 PM
Agreed. The Doctor finally hit his stride, and it did give us "The Ice Warriors" and "Enemy of the World".

/what wha?
 
2014-04-24 05:45:18 PM

fickenchucker: Let me be the guy who says "I'm glad for every new episode, because it's a fun show.  But within that appreciation, most of the last season SUCKED."

/Seriously--most of last year's writing SUCKED, even though the acting was pretty darn good.


Season 7 started off with a flawed premise - That each episode should be a high concept movie poster.  This robbed the first half of the season of any narrative continuity.  That's not to say that Who can't do standalones, but it's bread and butter is serialization.  The second half improved on this but setup the Great Intelligence as the Doctor's mortal enemy and then dispatched it in 6 episodes.  The GI could have been a really interesting villain if we had seen the Doctor repeatedly do battle and emerge victorious or even if we'd had some retconning to show that the GI was behind the Silence's destruction of the TARDIS or SOMETHING.  Instead we get Richard Grant in The Snowmen, a hint in The Bells of Saint John, and then it wraps up in The Name of the Doctor.

When Moffat nails a high concept story like Blink you end up with the best stuff in the series, but when he fails to deliver it really falls flat.
 
2014-04-24 05:54:44 PM

Rev.K: I'm getting my picture taken with Matt Smith tomorrow.


I'd love to meet Matt Smith someday.  He seems like a right cool bloke.

In the meantime, I'll have to console myself with having met David Tennant:

i.imgur.com
 
2014-04-24 05:57:12 PM

whizbangthedirtfarmer: As far as Smith goes, he seemed to do a good job, but as the seasons progressed, he started the irritating habit of waving the sonic around like it was a freakin' light saber.  I don't know if it was him or the directors, but even in the 50th anniversary promo, he was swinging it around like a moran.


They addressed that in the 50th special:
"What are you going to do, assemble a cabinet at them?"


/Allons-y!
//Geronimo!
///Oh, for gods sake!
 
2014-04-24 06:01:10 PM
Slightly relevant: BBCa is back to showing Eccleston's run.

/Smith grew into the role more than he grew on us, I think
//now if Moffat would do the same
///is it August yet?
 
2014-04-24 06:01:12 PM

Hand Banana: fickenchucker: Let me be the guy who says "I'm glad for every new episode, because it's a fun show.  But within that appreciation, most of the last season SUCKED."

/Seriously--most of last year's writing SUCKED, even though the acting was pretty darn good.

I didn't much care for it either, the new companion is boring, and I hated the idea that she was responsible for starting the Doctor on his journey by telling him which Tardis to steal and her saving him every time he was ever in danger. What a crock.


that's just Moffat being a farking hack writer.  I need to go back and find the "How to write like Moffat" check list from a new month's back.
 
2014-04-24 06:08:47 PM
Series 5 was the best since the show came back for me.  I enjoyed 6 and 7, but 5 was what made me fall in love with the show.


/and of course, it didn't take long for this to turn into the Moffat-bashing thread that all Doctor Who threads turn into
 
2014-04-24 06:20:31 PM

OtherLittleGuy: Agreed. The Doctor finally hit his stride, and it did give us "The Ice Warriors" and "Enemy of the World".

/what wha?


What wha is right.

Clearly you mis-typed "The Pyramids of Mars" and "The Hand of Fear"
 
2014-04-24 06:28:30 PM

DjangoStonereaver: Rev.K: I'm getting my picture taken with Matt Smith tomorrow.

I'd love to meet Matt Smith someday.  He seems like a right cool bloke.

In the meantime, I'll have to console myself with having met David Tennant:

[i.imgur.com image 850x637]


That's just awesome!
 
2014-04-24 06:29:13 PM
The Pandorica Opens was a great episode because they finally decided to give Rory a personality. He was dangerously close to becoming Mickey II before that episode. After it, he became one of the best companions in the series' history.


Stile4aly: fickenchucker: Let me be the guy who says "I'm glad for every new episode, because it's a fun show.  But within that appreciation, most of the last season SUCKED."
/Seriously--most of last year's writing SUCKED, even though the acting was pretty darn good.
Season 7 started off with a flawed premise - That each episode should be a high concept movie poster.  This robbed the first half of the season of any narrative continuity.  That's not to say that Who can't do standalones, but it's bread and butter is serialization.  The second half improved on this but setup the Great Intelligence as the Doctor's mortal enemy and then dispatched it in 6 episodes.  The GI could have been a really interesting villain if we had seen the Doctor repeatedly do battle and emerge victorious or even if we'd had some retconning to show that the GI was behind the Silence's destruction of the TARDIS or SOMETHING.  Instead we get Richard Grant in The Snowmen, a hint in The Bells of Saint John, and then it wraps up in The Name of the Doctor.
When Moffat nails a high concept story like Blink you end up with the best stuff in the series, but when he fails to deliver it really falls flat.


Am I the only one who thought it didn't really wrap up? Like there is still an episode's worth of story missing between Name Of The Doctor and Day Of The Doctor - showing how they were able to exit The Doctor's timeline, how we know the Great Intelligence was ultimately contained, and how they got off Trenzalore?

They also can't seem to figure out what to do with Clara. The version we saw in The Snowmen was far more clever than the "original edition" Clara seen from Bells Of Saint John through Day Of The Doctor.

On the other hand, I liked Nightmare In Silver more than the average fan. Gaiman's Borg-like take on the Cybermen really works for me, and I want to see more of Warwick Davis' emperor.
 
2014-04-24 06:37:07 PM

Xanlexian: DjangoStonereaver: Rev.K: I'm getting my picture taken with Matt Smith tomorrow.

I'd love to meet Matt Smith someday.  He seems like a right cool bloke.

In the meantime, I'll have to console myself with having met David Tennant:

[i.imgur.com image 850x637]

That's just awesome!


He was every bit as cool as you'd hope a famous person to be, which is doubly amazing given how
obviously jet lagged he was (he was in the middle of shuttling back & forth from LA to London promoting
BROADCHURCH at the time I met him).

He's also much, much taller than I thought he would be:  I'm a shade under 6 foot, and he fairly towered
over me (even if he's a stick of a man).
 
2014-04-24 06:48:02 PM
I really like 5 and 6.  They both had fantastic arcs, and the episodes were consistent in tone and feel.

I guess it's finally safe to say that 7 was a serious drop in quality.  Saying that a couple of months ago was liable to get you flamed out of the thread.  I feel like 7 had pacing problems, and it felt like every episode was trying to be more epic than the last.  And Clara is gorgeous, but boring.
 
2014-04-24 06:48:55 PM
While I really enjoyed Tennant as the Doctor, and his Doctor and Eccleston's were both fantastic, I was truly annoyed to see Tennant come back in the 50th Anniversary Episode.

Once you're gone, you're gone, let it go. The Fan Service was disgusting.

And besides all you did was help us understand how much Season 7 blew Raxacoricofallapatorius wind.
 
2014-04-24 06:49:42 PM

Hand Banana: fickenchucker: Let me be the guy who says "I'm glad for every new episode, because it's a fun show.  But within that appreciation, most of the last season SUCKED."

/Seriously--most of last year's writing SUCKED, even though the acting was pretty darn good.

I didn't much care for it either, the new companion is boring, and I hated the idea that she was responsible for starting the Doctor on his journey by telling him which Tardis to steal and her saving him every time he was ever in danger. What a crock.


She didn't save him every time he was in danger. She intervened on the occasions when the "Great Intelligence" sought to harm The Doctor after entering his timestream, because her entering his timestream took her to the same occasions. She worked to undo what the GI was trying to change.
 
2014-04-24 06:54:27 PM

kronicfeld: Hand Banana: fickenchucker: Let me be the guy who says "I'm glad for every new episode, because it's a fun show.  But within that appreciation, most of the last season SUCKED."

/Seriously--most of last year's writing SUCKED, even though the acting was pretty darn good.

I didn't much care for it either, the new companion is boring, and I hated the idea that she was responsible for starting the Doctor on his journey by telling him which Tardis to steal and her saving him every time he was ever in danger. What a crock.

She didn't save him every time he was in danger. She intervened on the occasions when the "Great Intelligence" sought to harm The Doctor after entering his timestream, because her entering his timestream took her to the same occasions. She worked to undo what the GI was trying to change.


Ah! But the Great Intelligence DID win. He never entered the Doctor's timestream, that was just a ruse.

He destroyed the Doctor by entering this guy's timestream

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-04-24 07:05:35 PM

RoyBatty: He destroyed the Doctor by entering this guy's timestream


Eh, I still think he can be salvaged as showrunner - if BBC gives him a decent (and courageous) script editor. He has stories that are anywhere from mediocre to good - but could have been tweaked a bit into fantastic episodes.

-Let's Kill Hitler should have been filmed entirely from the POV of Mels/River.
-The divorce subplot of the Asylum added nothing to the story, and was ultimately a distraction. It would have been better written as a debate on whether they would be happier traveling with The Doctor again or staying home... with the end result that both the Ponds and The Doctor needed each other too much to stay apart.
-The enemies in TIme Of The Doctor should have attacked Christmas one at a time instead over hundreds of years, while The Doctor worked out ways to bring Gallifrey home. The Daleks should have been saved until the end - and seeing them ultimately convinces The Doctor to leave Gallifrey lost instead of resuming the Time War. In the face of his betrayal, that would have added considerably more weight to Clara's plea for more regeneration energy.

And so on.
 
2014-04-24 07:14:09 PM

clkeagle: RoyBatty: He destroyed the Doctor by entering this guy's timestream

Eh, I still think he can be salvaged as showrunner - if BBC gives him a decent (and courageous) script editor. He has stories that are anywhere from mediocre to good - but could have been tweaked a bit into fantastic episodes.


No, Moffat has had his time. 4 years is the average run for most producers/showrunners. Time for some new blood after Capaldi is well established in the role.
 
2014-04-24 07:46:14 PM

clkeagle: RoyBatty: He destroyed the Doctor by entering this guy's timestream

Eh, I still think he can be salvaged as showrunner - if BBC gives him a decent (and courageous) script editor. He has stories that are anywhere from mediocre to good - but could have been tweaked a bit into fantastic episodes.


Yeah, a lot like George Lucas, he needs people around him to say "no" more often, to stop him from making the really stupid decisions. Some great concepts, but gets a bit too wrapped up in his own importance as the guy responsible for contributing to the canon. Retconning the entire 50-year history of a show just to artificially make a mediocre companion seem more important is a biatcheap.
 
2014-04-24 08:00:50 PM

Veritas: clkeagle: RoyBatty: He destroyed the Doctor by entering this guy's timestream

Eh, I still think he can be salvaged as showrunner - if BBC gives him a decent (and courageous) script editor. He has stories that are anywhere from mediocre to good - but could have been tweaked a bit into fantastic episodes.

Yeah, a lot like George Lucas, he needs people around him to say "no" more often, to stop him from making the really stupid decisions. Some great concepts, but gets a bit too wrapped up in his own importance as the guy responsible for contributing to the canon. Retconning the entire 50-year history of a show just to artificially make a mediocre companion seem more important is a biatcheap.


Good point and some funny filter pwnge.
 
2014-04-24 08:04:55 PM

Flappyhead: Good point and some funny filter pwnge.


Oh yeah, lookit that. I wasn't expecting that one :P
 
2014-04-24 08:09:16 PM

Veritas: Flappyhead: Good point and some funny filter pwnge.

Oh yeah, lookit that. I wasn't expecting that one :P


I say we start a petition on whitehouse.gov to get the filter pwnage changed to that one.
 
2014-04-24 08:13:04 PM

Stile4aly: TuteTibiImperes: I'd go with Series 6 as the best, but 5 did have some very good episodes.

I'm a sucker for River Song, so I really enjoyed 6 as well, but I think 5 had higher heights (Vincent and the Doctor) as well as lower lows (Victory of the Daleks).  6 was more even keeled and as a result a little more predicatable.


Vincent and the Doctor was very good, as was the Pandorica arc, but 6 gave us Day of the Moon, The Doctor's Wife, and A Good Man Goes to War.  While it's not as popular with a lot of people, I also really liked Closing Time as a comedic episode, and I think A Christmas Carol was one of the better Christmas specials.
 
2014-04-24 09:26:39 PM
Needs more pics of Companions....
 
2014-04-24 10:57:52 PM

TuteTibiImperes: Stile4aly: TuteTibiImperes: I'd go with Series 6 as the best, but 5 did have some very good episodes.
I'm a sucker for River Song, so I really enjoyed 6 as well, but I think 5 had higher heights (Vincent and the Doctor) as well as lower lows (Victory of the Daleks).  6 was more even keeled and as a result a little more predicatable.
Vincent and the Doctor was very good, as was the Pandorica arc, but 6 gave us Day of the Moon, The Doctor's Wife, and A Good Man Goes to War.  While it's not as popular with a lot of people, I also really liked Closing Time as a comedic episode, and I think A Christmas Carol was one of the better Christmas specials.


Victory of the Daleks was another one - cool idea, lackluster execution (other than Ian McNeice).  I also like Closing Time quite a bit, but A Christmas Carol did nothing for me.
 
2014-04-24 11:13:34 PM

macross87: Needs more pics of Companions....


3.bp.blogspot.com

i394.photobucket.com

revengeofthefilmnerds.com

upload.wikimedia.org

img2.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2014-04-24 11:22:42 PM

FirstNationalBastard: macross87: Needs more pics of Companions....


Figures...
 
2014-04-25 12:01:22 AM
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That should get things rolling.
 
2014-04-25 01:19:26 AM
I think Moffat had some good ideas about character development along Smith's run, but ultimately chickened out of making the characters actually change too many times - like the divorce idea.  That would've been great had the two divorced and had to learn a new dynamic while traveling with the Doctor.  It would've also been good to see one or the other (preferably Rory) start dating again before the other.  River Song could've been wrapped up better and earlier if Moffat and co. were willing to part with her.  Mels would've been a great concept had she been done since the beginning.  How many times did Amy decide to stop waiting around again?

Ultimately, I found Smith's doctor to be too damned selfish though.  River went to prison for no reason other than to benefit the Doctor's hiding.  Amy chooses to live in the past with her husband and what is the result?  The doctor goes into angry hardcore brooding mode and decides to stop helping humanity all together.
 
2014-04-25 07:16:11 AM

gadian: Ultimately, I found Smith's doctor to be too damned selfish though. River went to prison for no reason other than to benefit the Doctor's hiding. Amy chooses to live in the past with her husband and what is the result? The doctor goes into angry hardcore brooding mode and decides to stop helping humanity all together.


Selfish? As opposed to ten derailing half of british history, made a whole for the master to exploit, and (if we consider Torchwood canon) caused a whoooleee bunch of people to die, just because he was pissed that an old woman back talked to him after taking the only action that, from her view, was rational? (Given that she had every reason to believe the Sycorax might very well *immediately* turn back the instant they saw the TARDIS was gone, since they'd already shown they could detect it.)
 
2014-04-25 08:27:28 AM

Felgraf: gadian: Ultimately, I found Smith's doctor to be too damned selfish though. River went to prison for no reason other than to benefit the Doctor's hiding. Amy chooses to live in the past with her husband and what is the result? The doctor goes into angry hardcore brooding mode and decides to stop helping humanity all together.

Selfish? As opposed to ten derailing half of british history, made a whole for the master to exploit, and (if we consider Torchwood canon) caused a whoooleee bunch of people to die, just because he was pissed that an old woman back talked to him after taking the only action that, from her view, was rational? (Given that she had every reason to believe the Sycorax might very well *immediately* turn back the instant they saw the TARDIS was gone, since they'd already shown they could detect it.)


Yeah, 10 basically destroyed her career (making way for the Master) because he didn't like the fact that she didn't take his word for it that the aliens wouldn't come back and destroy them all.

11 went into mourning for his best friends for a while...but the beauty of a time machine is that, even if he does do that, he hasn't necessarily 'missed' anything.
 
2014-04-25 10:01:00 AM

whizbangthedirtfarmer: As far as Smith goes, he seemed to do a good job, but as the seasons progressed, he started the irritating habit of waving the sonic around like it was a freakin' light saber.  I don't know if it was him or the directors, but even in the 50th anniversary promo, he was swinging it around like a moran.


media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com
 
2014-04-25 12:17:24 PM

gadian: Amy chooses to live in the past with her husband and what is the result?


was there ever any real explanation as to why the TARDIS just can't go back in time and rescue the people the Angels send back?  what about Captain Jack's little time jump thingy?
 
2014-04-25 12:23:51 PM

ManateeGag: gadian: Amy chooses to live in the past with her husband and what is the result?

was there ever any real explanation as to why the TARDIS just can't go back in time and rescue the people the Angels send back?  what about Captain Jack's little time jump thingy?


The Doctor saw their graves...if he had gone back, he would have created a paradox, therefore ripping New York apart.
 
2014-04-25 01:01:26 PM

bborchar: ManateeGag: gadian: Amy chooses to live in the past with her husband and what is the result?

was there ever any real explanation as to why the TARDIS just can't go back in time and rescue the people the Angels send back?  what about Captain Jack's little time jump thingy?

The Doctor saw their graves...if he had gone back, he would have created a paradox, therefore ripping New York apart.


Which is itself rather ridiculous as he's spent the length of the show visiting with people he already knew were dead; he'll also exploit the paradox to his own advantage numerous times, including the Pandorica episodes.  I'm sure it was supposed to be a sad moment with Rory and Amy (okay, when Rory) left, but it wasn't.  It was silly.  He'll never see them again!  Except for all the times he could, and even if we were to assume he couldn't put the TARDIS in NY, then there's little preventing him from taking the TARDIS to just outside NY and driving.  Or riding a motorcycle.
 
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