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(Washington Post)   That O-bama, he been usin him some big o'l words like one of them there college boys   (washingtonpost.com ) divider line
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2014-04-24 12:06:20 PM  
Today's president...talks like an arrested-development adolescent.

I really don't think you want to start a discussion on which politicians act the most childish, George.  The Republicans are damn-near incapable of acting otherwise.
 
2014-04-24 12:10:04 PM  
By George Will

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2014-04-24 12:10:44 PM  
Shut up  Will you ignorant, racist douchebag.

Recently, Barack Obama - a Demosthenes determined to elevate our politics from coarseness to elegance; a Pericles sent to ameliorate our rhetorical impoverishment - spoke at the University of Michigan. He came to that very friendly venue - in 2012, he received 67 percent of the vote in Ann Arbor's county - after visiting a local sandwich shop, where a muse must have whispered in the presidential ear. Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) had recently released his budget, so Obama expressed his disapproval by calling it, for the benefit of his academic audience, a "meanwich" and a "stinkburger."

Maybe you could stop sucking Ryan's cock long enough to call President Obama by his official title.
 
2014-04-24 12:14:07 PM  
Recently, Barack Obama - a Demosthenes determined to elevate our politics from coarseness to elegance; a Pericles sent to ameliorate our rhetorical impoverishment

Not a single member of his target audience will be able to struggle through that sentence.
 
2014-04-24 12:16:50 PM  
George Will - not the most wrong guy in the room, as long as Bill Kristol is there.
 
2014-04-24 12:17:33 PM  
Recently, Barack Obama - a Demosthenes determined to elevate our politics from coarseness to elegance; a Pericles sent to ameliorate our rhetorical impoverishment - spoke at the University of Michigan.

"George Will learned how to use a thesarus! RUN!!!"

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2014-04-24 12:20:37 PM  
Let's go through, point by point:
First, that's not a straw man, that's exaggeration.  The Republicans didn't say "No on will sign up", but they did say that the ACA would be extremely unpopular and would never meet its goals.

Second, once the evidence has been presented again and again, there's no point in arguing further.  That's not a tactic used by teenagers, that's a tactic used against them because they refuse to listen.

Third, if you listened to the rest of what has been said, "It's working" means there are millions of people who didn't have insurance before, who couldn't get it, that now have access to affordable healthcare.

Finally, you show your true colors, Bill, by assuming that all political spite in this world must be directed personally at Obama, just as you do, and not a more generalized case of "Republican's obstructing anything Democrats try to do."
 
2014-04-24 12:20:51 PM  

vernonFL: By George Will

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You should slog through it. He's really outdone himself. Also,

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2014-04-24 12:31:07 PM  

Blues_X: George Will - not the most wrong guy in the room, as long as Bill Kristol is there.


What's interesting is if the each said the opposite of the other they would still manage both being wrong.

For instance, if Will said Hillary would win the DNC Presidential nomination and Kristol said she would lose the DNC Presidential nomination,  you would have to assume than Hillary was running as either an independent or a Republican.
 
2014-04-24 12:39:21 PM  
Try to imagine Franklin Roosevelt or Dwight Eisenhower or John Kennedy or Ronald Reagan talking like that.

I very clearly recall Reagan referring to enemy leaders with the slang term "Looney Tunes" back in the 1980s.
 
2014-04-24 12:48:33 PM  

Lorelle: Try to imagine Franklin Roosevelt or Dwight Eisenhower or John Kennedy or Ronald Reagan talking like that.

I very clearly recall Reagan referring to enemy leaders with the slang term "Looney Tunes" back in the 1980s.


I think he means the Reagan that conservatives made up, not the actual Reagan.
 
2014-04-24 12:50:11 PM  
If George Will had a real job and was this bad at it he would be fired.

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2014-04-24 12:51:24 PM  
Advisor: "Mr. President, we need to de-escalate the tensions in the middle east and calm the nervous situation in Ukraine..."

Obama: "TURN DOWN FOR WHAT?"
 
2014-04-24 12:57:09 PM  

Blues_X: George Will - not the most wrong guy in the room, as long as Bill Kristol is there.


George Will is a sort of Max Power of conservative punditry - the prediction is not necessarily wrong, but certainly "not right", and always written in overly flowery prose.

Compared with Kristol, who is always wrong at any written grade level.
 
2014-04-24 01:00:09 PM  
He does have very nice glasses and a dignified head of hair, though. You've got to give him at least a few Serious Points for that.
 
2014-04-24 01:02:35 PM  

Lenny_da_Hog: Recently, Barack Obama - a Demosthenes determined to elevate our politics from coarseness to elegance; a Pericles sent to ameliorate our rhetorical impoverishment
Not a single member of his target audience will be able to struggle through that sentence.


He's another Conservative who is best described as "a dumb person's idea of what a smart person sounds like."
 
2014-04-24 01:04:00 PM  
Well, that's the sort of thing you'd expect from a clean, articulate, well-spoken, bright African American.

They drive the gap-toothed yokels nuts. Gotta love 'em.
 
2014-04-24 01:04:05 PM  
Am I crazy, or was there a point in the past when George Will was a sane, rational human being?
 
2014-04-24 01:05:02 PM  

mrshowrules: Shut up  Will you ignorant, racist douchebag.

Recently, Barack Obama - a Demosthenes determined to elevate our politics from coarseness to elegance; a Pericles sent to ameliorate our rhetorical impoverishment - spoke at the University of Michigan. He came to that very friendly venue - in 2012, he received 67 percent of the vote in Ann Arbor's county - after visiting a local sandwich shop, where a muse must have whispered in the presidential ear. Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) had recently released his budget, so Obama expressed his disapproval by calling it, for the benefit of his academic audience, a "meanwich" and a "stinkburger."

Maybe you could stop sucking Ryan's cock long enough to call President Obama by his official title.


How often does anyone even call him "President Obama"? I've noticed that, too. It's always just "Obama" - like "Cher" or something but with more disdain.
 
2014-04-24 01:05:12 PM  
I would like to complain about the language and the tone that Barry the gay Marxist in Mom-jeans is using.
 
2014-04-24 01:05:40 PM  

mrshowrules: Recently, Barack Obama - a Demosthenes determined to elevate our politics from coarseness to elegance; a Pericles sent to ameliorate our rhetorical impoverishment


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2014-04-24 01:05:55 PM  
I would have just called the Ryan Budget what it was, a shiat sandwich.
 
2014-04-24 01:07:04 PM  
The butthurt is strong with this one.
 
2014-04-24 01:07:53 PM  
Unlike his sophisticated and erudite predecessor.

Not that I'm biatching about GW.  I'm just saying that this is a useless column.

Of the Washington Post's three "Equal Time for Republicans" columnists, who is more useless:  George Will, Jennifer Rubin, or Charles Krauthammer?
 
2014-04-24 01:08:58 PM  
A conservative complaining about the use of a straw man. I'm impressed.
 
2014-04-24 01:09:40 PM  
This kind of talk started with GW Bush and, for once, I agree with George Will.  There's no reason to dumb down rhetoric to get a point across.
 
2014-04-24 01:10:22 PM  
Remember when Senator George "Maccaca" Allen admitted to youthful indiscretions* he committed in his forties? That's a Republican's idea of adolescent.

*He had a Stars and Bars flag in his congressional office. What a fab kid!

Republican:  Hey, you whipper-snappers get off of my lawn!
Bystander: That's the Supreme Court, sir. They have a right to stand there. It"s the SCOTUS designated smoking-behind-the-school zone.
 
2014-04-24 01:10:23 PM  
Ahem... In summary, :-(
 
2014-04-24 01:11:32 PM  

Lorelle: Try to imagine Franklin Roosevelt or Dwight Eisenhower or John Kennedy or Ronald Reagan talking like that.

I very clearly recall Reagan referring to enemy leaders with the slang term "Looney Tunes" back in the 1980s.



He once suggested it was time for Gorbachev to "stop futzing around".  Hilarity ensued.
 
2014-04-24 01:11:42 PM  

Rapmaster2000: Unlike his sophisticated and erudite predecessor.

Not that I'm biatching about GW.  I'm just saying that this is a useless column.

Of the Washington Post's three "Equal Time for Republicans" columnists, who is more useless:  George Will, Jennifer Rubin, or Charles Krauthammer?


Rubin, by far. She picks inane topics to write nothing about.

Krauthammer picks serious topics to be totally, laughably, partisanly wrong about (while writing like an 8th grade Mean Girl), and Will always writes super-seriously whether his topic is blue jeans, the designated hitter, or the politics of word choice.
 
2014-04-24 01:12:33 PM  
George Will is a sententious ergoteur.
 
2014-04-24 01:13:56 PM  
Celebrating the ACA's enrollment numbers, Obama, referring to Republicans, charged: "They said nobody would sign up." Of course, no one said this.

Really??

Someone must have been living in a bubble for the past few years.
 
2014-04-24 01:14:28 PM  
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"President Obama wants everyone to go to college. What a snob."
 
2014-04-24 01:14:59 PM  
It is unimaginable that those grown-ups would resort to japes that fourth-graders would not consider sufficiently clever for use on a playground.

Yes, it is unimaginable that someone in the office once held by Andrew Jackson could be so juvenile and crude.
 
2014-04-24 01:15:09 PM  
George is right.  Instead we should have McCain as a leader.

bomb, bomb, bomb . . . bomb bomb iran
 
2014-04-24 01:16:16 PM  
I read that on a bathroom wall.
 
2014-04-24 01:16:46 PM  
And, now with the conservative response -- because they're entitled to that now, apparently -- a man known for saying what conservatives really want to hear...

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2014-04-24 01:17:12 PM  
Pointless article is pointless.

"states that have chosen not to expand Medicaid for no other reason than political spite."

Obama is correct, George. You can't tell me that states, every single one of them Republican controlled, having to cover 10% of the cost of expanded Medicaid starting three years from now is why they're refusing to expand Medicaid. Well, you can, but I'll call it out for the pile of bullshiat that it is.
 
2014-04-24 01:18:28 PM  

jayhawk88: Am I crazy, or was there a point in the past when George Will was a sane, rational human being?


No, you are crazy.  He has always been a sociopathic assmunch.  But he looked like the love-child of Orville Redenbacher and Andy Griffith, and used to whack off to the glory of baseball, so people just kind of assumed he was harmless.  Plus, he wrote such preposterously pretentious crap, everyone just kinda gave up on trying to understand what he was writing, because dragging out the OED and/or Plutarch's Lives just to get through an op-ed piece wasn't worth it.  The only things that have changed is that he has decided that since everyone gave him a pass back then, he can just be blatant, and we can now google his obscure references to realize he's full of shiat.  But his basic message of "rich white Christian men deserve to murder, rape, torture, and enslave everyone else because being rich, white Christian men entitles them to do so, because reasons" hasn't changed one iota.
 
2014-04-24 01:18:51 PM  
Anyone who has tried to engage a member of that age cohort in an argument probably recognizes the four basic teenage tropes, which also are the only arrows in Obama's overrated rhetorical quiver.

I checked TVTropes for the four basic teenage tropes, and it came back with "Franchise/Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles."  No wonder Obama is so popular with the young'ins!
 
2014-04-24 01:19:32 PM  

Lenny_da_Hog: Recently, Barack Obama - a Demosthenes determined to elevate our politics from coarseness to elegance; a Pericles sent to ameliorate our rhetorical impoverishment

Not a single member of his target audience will be able to struggle through that sentence.


Not only that, but Pericles was known for his greatness of rhetoric. I thought Black Muslim Hitler was just a bumbling halfwit.
 
2014-04-24 01:19:39 PM  
Japes? Someone stab George Will in the farking ear
 
2014-04-24 01:19:50 PM  

EyeballKid: And, now with the conservative response -- because they're entitled to that now, apparently -- a man known for saying what conservatives really want to hear...

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Ah yes, it's the conservative superstar who's been wondering if the attractive and successful African Americans were better off as slaves.

That's the kind of person the right wing admires and defends. I wonder how that minority outreach is going.
 
2014-04-24 01:20:02 PM  

mrshowrules: Shut up  Will you ignorant, racist douchebag.

Recently, Barack Obama - a Demosthenes determined to elevate our politics from coarseness to elegance; a Pericles sent to ameliorate our rhetorical impoverishment - spoke at the University of Michigan. He came to that very friendly venue - in 2012, he received 67 percent of the vote in Ann Arbor's county - after visiting a local sandwich shop, where a muse must have whispered in the presidential ear. Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) had recently released his budget, so Obama expressed his disapproval by calling it, for the benefit of his academic audience, a "meanwich" and a "stinkburger."

Maybe you could stop sucking Ryan's cock long enough to call President Obama by his official title.


Awesome catch!
 
2014-04-24 01:20:49 PM  

brantgoose: George Will is a sententious ergoteur.


He's also a lewdatual podiatist.
He's also a persnicuous lube-sopper.
He's also an ambisexual walnut.

/best not be obscure
 
2014-04-24 01:22:14 PM  
It is that there cannot be honorable and intelligent disagreement with him. So last week, less than two minutes after saying that the argument about the ACA "isn't about me," Obama said some important opposition to the ACA is about him, citing "states that have chosen not to expand Medicaid for no other reason than political spite."

Wow....talk about not listening to what the president said. He was saying that his pushing for the success of the ACA was not about him. He wasn't doing it to make himself look good. That's why it "isn't about me". But yes, his opponents are doing it out of political spite. It's the republicans goddamn plan from the Heritage foundation that we now have. But because the Dems said "ok, you win, we'll do it your way", the republicans decided to take their ball and go home.

And no, there has been little to no "intelligent" disagreement with Obama. Every response is "his policies/plans are bad" without providing any shred of evidence as to why nor an alternate plan in any way.
 
2014-04-24 01:22:40 PM  
Wait a second....is "Obama's An Out Of Touch Elitist Academic" week over already?!

I should really put some alerts on my phone.
 
2014-04-24 01:22:55 PM  

kidgenius: Celebrating the ACA's enrollment numbers, Obama, referring to Republicans, charged: "They said nobody would sign up." Of course, no one said this.

Really??

Someone must have been living in a bubble for the past few years.


I believe he was writing that no one has said those exact words.  Humorously, that kind of pedantry is typical of your average adolescent.
 
2014-04-24 01:23:14 PM  

Rapmaster2000: Of the Washington Post's three "Equal Time for Republicans" columnists, who is more useless: George Will, Jennifer Rubin, or Charles Krauthammer?


Krauthammer because the other two can at least stand behind their rhetoric.
 
2014-04-24 01:24:35 PM  

jayhawk88: Am I crazy, or was there a point in the past when George Will was a sane, rational human being?


I remember liking his writing about 25 years ago.
 
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