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(Yahoo)   NASA chef: Eventually our sun will grow cold and go out. it won't just take us. It'll take Marilyn Monroe, and Lao-Tzu, and Einstein, and Buddy Holly, and Aristophanes, and - all of this - was for nothing. Unless we go to the stars   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 181
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2014-04-24 10:29:37 AM
1.) I did not know we had / are apparently close to having the capability to lasso asteroids, let alone plunk them into orbit around the moon.

2.) Boy, wouldn't it be irksome if it turns out we suck at it and end up slingshooting (slingshotting?) the thing right into ourselves?

3.) Still worth a go, I guess, but good luck getting funding.
 
2014-04-24 10:31:32 AM
Why does NASA have a chef and why is he commenting on stuff not related to food?
 
2014-04-24 10:35:28 AM

scottydoesntknow: Why does NASA have a chef and why is he commenting on stuff not related to food?


img.fark.net
 
2014-04-24 11:10:09 AM
Pretty pithy statements for a chef.
 
2014-04-24 11:14:57 AM
... John Sheridan was a chef at NASA?
 
2014-04-24 11:34:20 AM
To be fair, the sun will first expand and flame-broil the planet before it goes nova.

Never heard of a star "growing cold and going out".
-reads TFA-
Oh, that's not what he said. BAD subby.
 
2014-04-24 11:40:27 AM

That Guy What Stole the Bacon: 1.) I did not know we had / are apparently close to having the capability to lasso asteroids, let alone plunk them into orbit around the moon.


We have it it. It came out in KSP version 0.23.5.
 
2014-04-24 11:41:06 AM
Hate to be a buzz kill, but someday even the stars we go to will die, and - all of this - was for nothing.
 
2014-04-24 12:07:25 PM
I wish there were some punctuation mark that comes in discrete packets to disabuse us of that notion.
 
2014-04-24 12:08:45 PM

obenchainr: ... John Sheridan was a chef at NASA?


img1.wikia.nocookie.net

Thinks you have the wrong guy.
 
2014-04-24 12:11:32 PM

R.A.Danny: scottydoesntknow: Why does NASA have a chef and why is he commenting on stuff not related to food?

[img.fark.net image 275x183]


Great googily moogily!
 
2014-04-24 12:11:41 PM

That Guy What Stole the Bacon: 1.) I did not know we had / are apparently close to having the capability to lasso asteroids, let alone plunk them into orbit around the moon.

2.) Boy, wouldn't it be irksome if it turns out we suck at it and end up slingshooting (slingshotting?) the thing right into ourselves?

3.) Still worth a go, I guess, but good luck getting funding.


What if we could find a way to slingshot them into Earth with a fair degree of accuracy. Weaponized asteroids! We could take out Rio de Janiero.
 
2014-04-24 12:11:50 PM
On the other side of the coin, we keep pretending that we don't have at least 50 million times the amount of time since we first went to space to begin to address the question.
 
2014-04-24 12:13:47 PM

R.A.Danny: scottydoesntknow: Why does NASA have a chef and why is he commenting on stuff not related to food?
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That's an old picture, before they found the water.
 
2014-04-24 12:16:19 PM
Saw the part in TFA's graphic about "Earth Reliant":

img1.wikia.nocookie.net /Had high hopes there for a minute
 
2014-04-24 12:17:29 PM
Michael Collins is to only person to ever live born before 1969 not in this picturei.imgur.com
 
2014-04-24 12:19:23 PM

cgraves67: That Guy What Stole the Bacon: 1.) I did not know we had / are apparently close to having the capability to lasso asteroids, let alone plunk them into orbit around the moon.

2.) Boy, wouldn't it be irksome if it turns out we suck at it and end up slingshooting (slingshotting?) the thing right into ourselves?

3.) Still worth a go, I guess, but good luck getting funding.

What if we could find a way to slingshot them into Earth with a fair degree of accuracy. Weaponized asteroids! We could take out Rio de Janiero.


Yes. Then we lure our enemies to Klendathu.

Would you like to know more?
 
2014-04-24 12:21:25 PM

That Guy What Stole the Bacon: 1.) I did not know we had / are apparently close to having the capability to lasso asteroids, let alone plunk them into orbit around the moon.

2.) Boy, wouldn't it be irksome if it turns out we suck at it and end up slingshooting (slingshotting?) the thing right into ourselves?


"Slingshot" maneuvers are done in a way that minimizes risk to Earth in case of a problem. NASA slingshotted Cassini past Earth, and since it had a nuclear fuel source, had to be very clear about the ways they minimized that risk, including a path that would take it harmlessly away from Earth until a "last minute" course change.

3.) Still worth a go, I guess, but good luck getting funding.

http://www.penny4nasa.org/
The Mission
We strive to increase NASA's funding to 1% by encouraging popular support for NASA through education and outreach.Our Vision
We uphold the importance of NASA by highlighting scientific exploration, research and education as paramount to society's success. NASA's current budget, at 0.5% of the total U.S. budget, does not reflect the hugely important economic, technological and inspirational resource that this agency has been in its 50+ year history. This is the people saying that as a society, we want our tax dollars to reflect the importance of scientific exploration, research and education; and 0.5% doesn't cut it. The NASA budget must be increased to at least 1% of the U.S. federal budget.
 
2014-04-24 12:23:06 PM

impaler: That Guy What Stole the Bacon: 1.) I did not know we had / are apparently close to having the capability to lasso asteroids, let alone plunk them into orbit around the moon.

We have it it. It came out in KSP version 0.23.5.


I swear, it's like there's one for every occasion:
imgs.xkcd.com
 
2014-04-24 12:23:48 PM

error 303: Michael Collins is to only person to ever live born before 1969 not in this picture


Heh, that's a pretty cool perspective of that shot.
 
2014-04-24 12:24:26 PM

ikanreed: On the other side of the coin, we keep pretending that we don't have at least 50 million times the amount of time since we first went to space to begin to address the question.




Problem is that we don't.
It takes a high degree of technical and scientific capability as well as massive resources to do space travel by the rules we know now. So we have until the cheap energy runs out, maybe fifty years or so, before space travel becomes untenable as a political side project.
At that point it will be a terrific expense on a world that's straining to maintain its bloated human population.

Seeing as we've never met a space faring alien, in a galaxy with possibly millions of host planets, the safe assumption is that most species never make it this far. Probably because they keep putting things like space travel off for near term concerns.

Speaking of which: 2030 is an eternity in politics. You aren't going to mars on that schedule.
 
2014-04-24 12:24:51 PM
IF that Slingshot thing proves to be workable, The US would be in a position to tell China and the African warlords to go suck it when it came to supplying rare earths needed  for modern electronic manufacture and that at least would be a good thing
 
2014-04-24 12:25:13 PM

scottydoesntknow: Why does NASA have a chef and why is he commenting on stuff not related to food?


Well, I see that is taken care of.
 
2014-04-24 12:28:09 PM
way south:
Seeing as we've never met a space faring alien, in a galaxy with possibly millions of host planets, the safe assumption is that most species never make it this far. Probably because they keep putting things like space travel off for near term concerns.

Yeah, it's a damned tragedy that in a galaxy with a hundred billion stars
, billions of years old, we haven't run into a single alien publicly landing on our primitive world in the very small window of time in which such things would be widely recorded and known, or in which they would recognize us as anything more than partially evolved semi-sentient fauna.
 
2014-04-24 12:28:23 PM

scottydoesntknow: Why does NASA have a chef and why is he commenting on stuff not related to food?


Well, by now, Subby just blew his chance at any sort of FirstNationalBastard-type recovery.  All is lost for Subby in the Subby in this thread.
 
2014-04-24 12:29:42 PM

impaler: That Guy What Stole the Bacon: 1.) I did not know we had / are apparently close to having the capability to lasso asteroids, let alone plunk them into orbit around the moon.

We have it it. It came out in KSP version 0.23.5.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9fvjKVuULQ
 
2014-04-24 12:29:54 PM

PreMortem: To be fair, the sun will first expand and flame-broil the planet before it goes nova.

Never heard of a star "growing cold and going out".
-reads TFA-
Oh, that's not what he said. BAD subby.


The sun won't go nova, per se. It's not big enough. It'd have to be at least three times its present mass, or in NASA terms, "Half the mass of Your Mom", to go nova at all. No, it'll shed gas layers(Planetary nebula phase) after it grows more, then settle into a dwarf and burn out in time.
 
2014-04-24 12:31:23 PM

That Guy What Stole the Bacon


2.) Boy, wouldn't it be irksome if it turns out we suck at it and end up slingshooting (slingshotting?) the thing right into ourselves?


Slingshotting. I don't think "slingshoot" is a word, although curiously enough "slungshot" is.
 
2014-04-24 12:32:54 PM
If he is a chef shouldnt he be dehydrating something?
 
2014-04-24 12:33:11 PM
The universe will eventually go out too.

However, I want to see a colony on the moon or another planet before I die.

I'm 33.

You've got 60 or so years (long lived relatives, hopefully I got them genes).

Get to it.
 
2014-04-24 12:33:13 PM

Tyrone Slothrop: impaler: That Guy What Stole the Bacon: 1.) I did not know we had / are apparently close to having the capability to lasso asteroids, let alone plunk them into orbit around the moon.

We have it it. It came out in KSP version 0.23.5.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9fvjKVuULQ


Also, if you are in a NASA thread and have never played KSP, stop what you're doing and go play KSP.

imgs.xkcd.com
 
2014-04-24 12:33:20 PM

Englebert Slaptyback: That Guy What Stole the Bacon

2.) Boy, wouldn't it be irksome if it turns out we suck at it and end up slingshooting (slingshotting?) the thing right into ourselves?


Slingshotting. I don't think "slingshoot" is a word, although curiously enough "slungshot" is.


True, but we don't go to the range to go shotting. Screw you, English.
 
2014-04-24 12:34:30 PM

vharshyde: PreMortem: To be fair, the sun will first expand and flame-broil the planet before it goes nova.

Never heard of a star "growing cold and going out".
-reads TFA-
Oh, that's not what he said. BAD subby.

The sun won't go nova, per se. It's not big enough. It'd have to be at least three times its present mass, or in NASA terms, "Half the mass of Your Mom", to go nova at all. No, it'll shed gas layers(Planetary nebula phase) after it grows more, then settle into a dwarf and burn out in time.


I stand corrected, remembering hearing almost exactly that. About your mom.
 
2014-04-24 12:35:03 PM

impaler: Hate to be a buzz kill, but someday even the stars we go to will die, and - all of this - was for nothing.

Homo Sapiens

 will go extinct long before that. Long before our sun goes out, even. Oh, our genetic descendants might still be around, but that's not particularly impressive. In a billion years, the dominant species on Earth will likely be more alien from us than anything alive today. Humanity is a short-term experience. Enjoy it.
 
2014-04-24 12:35:45 PM
Most people in politics or money right now care only about near term gains a profits. The end of the human race is not their problem.
 
2014-04-24 12:35:45 PM

Tyrone Slothrop: Also, if you are in a NASA thread and have never played KSP, stop what you're doing and go play KSP.


I'm waiting for it to leave pre-release.
 
2014-04-24 12:38:14 PM

t3knomanser: Tyrone Slothrop: Also, if you are in a NASA thread and have never played KSP, stop what you're doing and go play KSP.

I'm waiting for it to leave pre-release.


Same.

I know it looks awesome, but I've been burned twice on paying for "pre-release" or beta software from Steam, and near release day other games (looking at you Diablo 3 and Defiance)....
 
2014-04-24 12:40:06 PM

impaler: Hate to be a buzz kill, but someday even the stars we go to will die, and - all of this - was for nothing.


Unless, of course, we discover a way to travel to parallel universes.
 
2014-04-24 12:41:00 PM

scottydoesntknow: Why does NASA have a chef and why is he commenting on stuff not related to food?


Well, as it turns out, they got the role correct, but the quote was completely wrong.  It should be:

"Whether it happens in a hundred years or a thousand years or a million years, eventually our Sun will grow cold and go out. When that happens, it won't just take us. It'll take Julia Child, and Wolfgang Puck, and Alain Ducasse, and crêpe soufflée à l'orange, and orecchiette with red lamb sausage and carrots , and hot velvet crab aspic with mini-corn cob cous-cous, and - all of this - all of this - was for nothing. Unless we go to the stars."
 
2014-04-24 12:42:21 PM

HeartBurnKid: Unless, of course, we discover a way to travel to parallel universes.


Summoning the power of Fark...
 
2014-04-24 12:43:23 PM

That Guy What Stole the Bacon


True, but we don't go to the range to go shotting.


But in "slingshot", "sling" is the verb and "shot" is the object.


Screw you, English.


I pictured you as a pissed-off Amish person saying this, and I chortled.

(Couldn't find a pic of Weird Al flipping off the tourist in 'Amish Paradise')
 
2014-04-24 12:43:59 PM
Photograph of the head of NASA:

img.fark.net
 
2014-04-24 12:44:07 PM

t3knomanser: Tyrone Slothrop: Also, if you are in a NASA thread and have never played KSP, stop what you're doing and go play KSP.

I'm waiting for it to leave pre-release.


I wouldn't. It's the best game on the planet.

And what if we're hit by an asteroid before then?
 
2014-04-24 12:45:40 PM

impaler: That Guy What Stole the Bacon: 1.) I did not know we had / are apparently close to having the capability to lasso asteroids, let alone plunk them into orbit around the moon.

We have it it. It came out in KSP version 0.23.5.


Yeah, there are screenshots from people who have managed to land them right in the middle of the KSC. I haven't even made an attempt to get to one, yet. But there's a nice class E getting closer and closer to Kerbin. As soon as I unlock nuclear engines (since I started over after installing the new update), I think I'll go check it out.
 
2014-04-24 12:45:44 PM

impaler: t3knomanser: Tyrone Slothrop: Also, if you are in a NASA thread and have never played KSP, stop what you're doing and go play KSP.

I'm waiting for it to leave pre-release.

I wouldn't. It's the best game on the planet.

And what if we're hit by an asteroid before then?


I'll miss Buenos Aires.

//But the asteroid won't
 
2014-04-24 12:45:50 PM
thefabweb.com


This is a better quote because f*ck the Navi. Buncha' blue Luddites.
 
2014-04-24 12:48:22 PM

t3knomanser: Tyrone Slothrop: Also, if you are in a NASA thread and have never played KSP, stop what you're doing and go play KSP.

I'm waiting for it to leave pre-release.


Dude, I have you farkied as "science guy who answers all my questions about shiat I don't understand" and you've never played KSP?

It's pretty much a game as it is now. Try it, you won't be disappointed.
 
2014-04-24 12:48:27 PM

impaler: Hate to be a buzz kill, but someday even the stars we go to will die, and - all of this - was for nothing.


http://www.multivax.com/last_question.html
 
2014-04-24 12:48:52 PM

One Bad Apple: [thefabweb.com image 850x478]


This is a better quote because f*ck the Navi. Buncha' blue Luddites.


He was the only interesting thing in the whole movie.
 
2014-04-24 12:49:13 PM

way south: ikanreed: On the other side of the coin, we keep pretending that we don't have at least 50 million times the amount of time since we first went to space to begin to address the question.

Problem is that we don't.
It takes a high degree of technical and scientific capability as well as massive resources to do space travel by the rules we know now. So we have until the cheap energy runs out, maybe fifty years or so, before space travel becomes untenable as a political side project.
At that point it will be a terrific expense on a world that's straining to maintain its bloated human population.

Seeing as we've never met a space faring alien, in a galaxy with possibly millions of host planets, the safe assumption is that most species never make it this far. Probably because they keep putting things like space travel off for near term concerns.

Speaking of which: 2030 is an eternity in politics. You aren't going to mars on that schedule.


I'm not convinced that energy is the absolute limiting factor. We get more than enough solar flux to live better than today and still explore the galaxy, particularly if materials science gives us the stuff for space elevators. I'm also not sure we're necessarily going to the 'bloated population' version.  A lot of models have Peak Human Population coming around 2050-2060 in the 10 billion range.  Which may be environmentally insane, but will probably drop down from there.  More likely than Soylent Green overcrowding is that most of the world become like modern Japan/Korea/Taiwan (and Warsaw Pact countries/Greece/Italy/Spain) where children are a serious rarity.

But, even at that 'optimism', I also disagree with ikanreed that we have billions of years.  Yeah, that's the most guaranteed date (sun going red giant), but we've also got big space rocks trying to kill us, extinction-level superplagues, random gamma-ray-bursters, rogue stars and black holes, and human ingenuity in the form of nuclear weapons that all could wipe us out sooner than the red giant days.  If we have any genetic imperative at all, Bolden's right.
 
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