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(Hot Air)   The government discovers that it missed 44 of their own Obamacare deadlines. So its a success...right?   (hotair.com) divider line 188
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2014-04-24 10:26:35 AM  
LOLz

Stopped reading there. I will continue if someone can truthfully explain how that's an acronym for a healthcare organization, law, or related that I'm not acquainted with.
 
2014-04-24 10:31:15 AM  
well, considering its rocky rollout, i'd say that it's a motherfarking massive success.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2014-04-24 10:36:38 AM  
Usually accomplishing it's goal is the measure of success for any program.

Since it's goal is to make insurance available to uninsured people and it's done that, I would say it's definitely a success.
 
2014-04-24 10:44:50 AM  

FlashHarry: well, considering its rocky rollout, i'd say that it's a motherfarking massive success.


If at the end of the day more people have proper health insurance, I'd call it a success.
 
2014-04-24 10:48:58 AM  
This pizza was delivered 3 minutes late, therefore it is not pizza.
 
2014-04-24 10:55:07 AM  

vpb: Usually accomplishing it's goal is the measure of success for any program.

Since it's goal is to make insurance available to uninsured people and it's done that, I would say it's definitely a success.


Yes the Republicans should be patting themselves on the back - their program is a success.  Boy did they make it complicated, but yeah the results are what matters.

/mind you, I think single payer would be a bigger success (and a hell of a lot simpler), but credit where credit is due
 
2014-04-24 10:56:08 AM  
OMG!!  THE ROLLOUT WAS NOT PERFECT!!

ergo, 0BAMMYCARE IS A TOTAL OPPRESSIVE FAILURE!!1!

~conservatards
 
2014-04-24 11:08:20 AM  
 
2014-04-24 11:19:20 AM  
How does it feel repubs, to have thrown everything you had at the ACA, to have made dismantling it the primary focus of your party, to have been helped along by the administrations own technological incompetence, and in the end to realize it was still a success? The pain must be unbearable.
 
2014-04-24 11:20:31 AM  
Yet they were gleeful when the website rollout was a disaster. It's almost as if they want public perception of it to be negative rather than wait to work the kinks before its presented as a finished product.

/cry moar
/dnrtfa
 
2014-04-24 11:22:56 AM  
yeah, yeah, public relations campaign to keep the poor and lower middle class from having health coverage.
 
2014-04-24 11:22:59 AM  
The government discovers that it missed 44 of their own Obamacare deadlines.

Still far more on target than the GOP's laser-like focus on jobs.
 
2014-04-24 11:23:11 AM  

Dinki: The pain must be unbearable.


from here, it's farking delicious.
 
2014-04-24 11:23:26 AM  
here you go submitter, get to work

i.imgur.com
 
2014-04-24 11:23:31 AM  
Yes.

Next topic?
 
2014-04-24 11:25:08 AM  
And the actual better alternative suggestion from the republicans is.........what again?

For all their whining about the ACA, they never offered a better answer.
 
2014-04-24 11:25:46 AM  
Hot Air, Breitbart, Clown Hall. WE NEED A WND GREENLIGHT, STAT!!!

Frikkin' Tard Thursday.
 
2014-04-24 11:25:48 AM  
I didn't used to have healthcare, and now I do.
 
2014-04-24 11:25:51 AM  
Yes.
 
2014-04-24 11:26:12 AM  

NeverDrunk23: And the actual better alternative suggestion from the republicans is.........what again?

For all their whining about the ACA, they never offered a better answer.


Taking affordable healthcare away from 8 million people?
 
2014-04-24 11:27:35 AM  
7Million+ suscribers since the website went live. Clearly Obamacare is an unmitigated disaster and should be repealed in favor of the GOP alternative.
 
2014-04-24 11:27:59 AM  
Pick a tense, subtard. That said........No1currrrrrrrr
 
2014-04-24 11:28:16 AM  
It's too late. You lost.
 
2014-04-24 11:29:10 AM  
Here's your apostrophe, submitter: '

Best part...forever
 
2014-04-24 11:29:44 AM  

Dinki: How does it feel repubs, to have thrown everything you had at the ACA, to have made dismantling it the primary focus of your party, to have been helped along by the administrations own technological incompetence, and in the end to realize it was still a success? The pain must be unbearable.


The ACA was their plan. Incentivized private, free market health insurance is what Republicans wanted instead of a public option or a single payer system. This was their idea and now it's succeeding and they have done everything they can to claim it's the worst thing ever. It's utterly mind blowing. They won on this issue, and their plan is working, and they're completely opposed to it.
 
2014-04-24 11:30:54 AM  
Also pick one:  "it missed 40 of its own Obamacare deadlines" or "they missed 40 of their own Obamacare deadlines".
 
2014-04-24 11:32:08 AM  
Yes. It's a success.

Unlike the wit in your headline
 
2014-04-24 11:32:21 AM  
Are Republicans complaining that people can afford healthcare?

Then its a success.
 
2014-04-24 11:34:55 AM  
Wow.  I can't imagine a company in the private sector would ever miss an internal deadline.
 
2014-04-24 11:35:35 AM  

markfara: I didn't used to have healthcare, and now I do.


Sounds like you're a 'taker.'
 
2014-04-24 11:35:45 AM  

FlashHarry: well, considering its rocky rollout, i'd say that it's a motherfarking massive success.


nope.  didn't work perfectly the second they turned the website on.  worst thing since AIDS.  herp derp derp!
 
2014-04-24 11:38:01 AM  
*looks for Hot Air article on the budget deadline intentionlally missed by the GOP, leaves dissatisfied.
 
2014-04-24 11:38:15 AM  
50 votes to repeal
44 missed deadlines

Guys, this is serious. If the Feds miss 7 more deadlines before they hold another repeal vote, it'll mean the government missed more deadlines than the GOP had votes to repeal, and therefore one number will be larger!!

// this means something intredasting, I just potato it to be true
 
2014-04-24 11:38:17 AM  

lilbjorn: The government discovers that it missed 44 of their own Obamacare deadlines.

Still far more on target than the GOP's laser-like focus on jobs.


No, laser-like focus on keeping their jobs in congress. And like a cheezy movie, their laser guns are all "pew, pew" and missing each and every shot.
Also I'd hazard a guess many of these missed deadlines, which appear to all be "create such and such panel, and produce a report to congress", are late due to lack of funding. I wouldn't dare hazard a guess as to why their is a lack of funding.
 
2014-04-24 11:39:28 AM  

FlashHarry: at least 9.5 million people who were previously uninsured have insurance under obamacare.

[img.fark.net image 500x221]


That number is not quite nearly as impressive when you consider that at least 12 million people who had insurance lost it*.

*Source: FW: FW: FW: FW: FW: email.
 
2014-04-24 11:39:50 AM  
I wonder how many of those missed deadlines were due to Republican intransigence in trying every way they possibly could to block a law that was passed by Congress, signed by the president, and validated by the Supreme Court.

I wonder what kind of price the GOP will pay for still trying to paint ACA as the most libbiest lib that ever libbed a lib.
 
2014-04-24 11:40:54 AM  

markfara: I didn't used to have healthcare, and now I do.


i used to have health insurance.

i still do, but i used to, too
 
2014-04-24 11:41:19 AM  

Dinki: How does it feel repubs, to have thrown everything you had at the ACA, to have made dismantling it the primary focus of your party, to have been helped along by the administrations own technological incompetence, and in the end to realize it was still a success? The pain must be unbearable.


It's probably equally unbearable for the people who have spent millions fighting gay marriage, particularly the Mormons who forked over 25+ million on Prop 8. And now, those very laws they worked so hard, and spend so much money on, to enact could be the very vehicle that legalizes gay marriage in every state.

As for those who fought the ACA, I see them starting to come around when they actually stop listening to the doom and gloom and see how it's actually helping. Like gay marriage, they'll support it when it involves themselves or their own family. When someone they know would have died without it, they'll support it.

Or they'll come around when someone they know dies from something that could have been prevented had that state's Republican governor opted into the expansion. Then they'll have to face the fact that they were on the side that killed this person. Congratulations, you won and your friend is dead. Enjoy that victory.

The tide is turning, and a lot of people who opposed it tooth and nail are going to slowly come around.
 
2014-04-24 11:45:04 AM  

soporific: Or they'll come around when someone they know dies from something that could have been prevented had that state's Republican governor opted into the expansion. Then they'll have to face the fact that they were on the side that killed this person. Congratulations, you won and your friend is dead. Enjoy that victory.


Why, exactly, do you believe that low-information voters would rationally recognize that the death of their friend was aided by their local government's failure to work with the law, rather than irrationally blame "Obamacare" for somehow degrading the quality of health care in the nation?
 
2014-04-24 11:50:13 AM  
My health insurance premiums just went down $10 a month, after years of going up.

Thanks, Obama
 
2014-04-24 11:54:27 AM  

Dimensio: soporific: Or they'll come around when someone they know dies from something that could have been prevented had that state's Republican governor opted into the expansion. Then they'll have to face the fact that they were on the side that killed this person. Congratulations, you won and your friend is dead. Enjoy that victory.

Why, exactly, do you believe that low-information voters would rationally recognize that the death of their friend was aided by their local government's failure to work with the law, rather than irrationally blame "Obamacare" for somehow degrading the quality of health care in the nation?


I don't understand why I'm not seeing constant ads from the left consisting solely of the Governors that refused to expand Medicaid for their states and the resulting avoidable health costs to their citizens. Make them hurt for leaving their constituents in the cold.
 
2014-04-24 12:03:53 PM  

UrukHaiGuyz: Dimensio: soporific: Or they'll come around when someone they know dies from something that could have been prevented had that state's Republican governor opted into the expansion. Then they'll have to face the fact that they were on the side that killed this person. Congratulations, you won and your friend is dead. Enjoy that victory.

Why, exactly, do you believe that low-information voters would rationally recognize that the death of their friend was aided by their local government's failure to work with the law, rather than irrationally blame "Obamacare" for somehow degrading the quality of health care in the nation?

I don't understand why I'm not seeing constant ads from the left consisting solely of the Governors that refused to expand Medicaid for their states and the resulting avoidable health costs to their citizens. Make them hurt for leaving their constituents in the cold.


You do realize that in 2016, all the states that are accepting the current hand out from the Federal Government to increase medicare/medicaid coverage are going to have to raise taxes to support the increase... right?  This is why a lot of states are refusing to accept the money... basically its a state tax increase mandated by the federal government.

There has to be a better way than blackmail (which this basically is)..
 
2014-04-24 12:09:30 PM  
Keep in mind Obamacare celebrators, this might be your last hurrah.

Less than half of the plan is implemented; and that part implemented in unquestionably the best of it. Its downhill from here.

You only have (being generous) 10 million plans signed up... with another ~100 million to go.

Beware the Ides of... whenever Obama decides to implement the rest of it...
 
2014-04-24 12:11:20 PM  
Hmm, Hot Air article trumpeting something related to the ACA and how they're trying to twist it into a failure, and yet I see no gray-farkied posters trying to defend it. Did they go to McDonald's for an early lunch to play in the ball pit? Or is there not a reason to defend the dumb rhetoric? Please note that when the Gray Derp Squad does show up, they still won't propose an alternative, especially one that their elected officials will agree with. Around and around we go.
 
2014-04-24 12:15:03 PM  

Destructor: Keep in mind Obamacare celebrators, this might be your last hurrah.

Less than half of the plan is implemented; and that part implemented in unquestionably the best of it. Its downhill from here.

You only have (being generous) 10 million plans signed up... with another ~100 million to go.

Beware the Ides of... whenever Obama decides to implement the rest of it...


You think Paul Ryan is "concerned about reducing the federal debt" based on a budget that increases defence spending by 400bn dollars, repeals Obamacare but also bases its numbers on Obamacare being present, and is based on predictions about GDP growth that have literally never been achieved in any country in the history of the planet.

You'll forgive us if we don't give much credence to your political predictions and just assume you're just a lockstep republican.
 
2014-04-24 12:15:17 PM  

FlashHarry: well, considering its rocky rollout, i'd say that it's a motherfarking massive success.


Reality is it wasn't that rocky of a rollout.
 
2014-04-24 12:19:25 PM  

dwrash: UrukHaiGuyz: Dimensio: soporific: Or they'll come around when someone they know dies from something that could have been prevented had that state's Republican governor opted into the expansion. Then they'll have to face the fact that they were on the side that killed this person. Congratulations, you won and your friend is dead. Enjoy that victory.

Why, exactly, do you believe that low-information voters would rationally recognize that the death of their friend was aided by their local government's failure to work with the law, rather than irrationally blame "Obamacare" for somehow degrading the quality of health care in the nation?

I don't understand why I'm not seeing constant ads from the left consisting solely of the Governors that refused to expand Medicaid for their states and the resulting avoidable health costs to their citizens. Make them hurt for leaving their constituents in the cold.

You do realize that in 2016, all the states that are accepting the current hand out from the Federal Government to increase medicare/medicaid coverage are going to have to raise taxes to support the increase... right?  This is why a lot of states are refusing to accept the money... basically its a state tax increase mandated by the federal government.

There has to be a better way than blackmail (which this basically is)..


CBO now estimates that the federal government will, on average, pick up  more than 95 percent of the total cost of the Medicaid expansion.

The Medicaid expansion would also likely limit long term costs, as early treatment and prevention ends up saving the State money that would otherwise be spent on expensive emergency treatment for the poor and uninsured. The States refusing the Medicaid expansion on principle are doing a disservice to their citizens, and should be called out on it, loudly and repeatedly. They are literally condemning many of their poor to death and disease to score short-term political points. F*ck the lot of 'em.
 
2014-04-24 12:20:00 PM  

Destructor: You only have (being generous) 10 million plans signed up... with another ~100 million to go.


Up to 23 million, and you don't have to be that generous.

Again, I say, is there a Republican alternative? If the Republicans originally created this plan, why aren't they praising their own idea now? If you think Obama single-handedly controls the law, it's evil tyrant week right?

And no, you're not part of the Gray Derp Squad I mentioned right after your post. I've seen you have moments of clarity. Like  Captain Dan, you seem to be genuine in some of your arguments... misguided at times sure, but genuine. Now  Brick-House on the other hand is straight troll-tard...
 
2014-04-24 12:22:36 PM  

lennavan: FlashHarry: well, considering its rocky rollout, i'd say that it's a motherfarking massive success.

Reality is it wasn't that rocky of a rollout.


It was "rocky" in that the federal website, which wasn't designed to handle the load of half the states in this country, wasn't perfect on day one. No causation from the red-state governors that didn't implement the law as intended and set up a state exchange, because the Party of Personal ResponsibilityTM doesn't understand cause and effect, only talking points.
 
2014-04-24 12:24:38 PM  

Destructor: Keep in mind Obamacare celebrators, this might be your last hurrah.

Less than half of the plan is implemented; and that part implemented in unquestionably the best of it. Its downhill from here.

You only have (being generous) 10 million plans signed up... with another ~100 million to go.

Beware the Ides of... whenever Obama decides to implement the rest of it...



Considering I was told quite explicitly that the mere implementation of Obamacare was going to destroy the country, I won't be holding my breath over this new talking point.
 
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