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(Major League Baseball)   15 years ago this week, Cardinals' Fernando Tatis became the only player in MLB history to hit two grand slams ... in one inning. Dodgers' Chan Ho Park absolutely crushed   (wapc.mlb.com) divider line 44
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2014-04-24 09:11:46 AM
♫ Did you hit the slams, Fernando?
Were you standing in the batters box as it was getting dark?
In the waning light, Fernando
You had the bases juiced and hoped to give your team a spark
Did you think that you could jack one twice against young Chan Ho Park?

They were long enough Fernando
Every foot the baseball traveled seemed to last more than an hour
As they cleared the fence, Fernando
I am certain that the taste in Chan Ho's mouth was turning sour
And you sure amazed old Mark McGwire with your power

There was something in the air that night
The stars were bright, Fernando
They were there for your eight RBIs
Your two big flies, Fernando
We saw the first one leave the yard, we can't forget
And then you went and did the same again
You did, my friend, Fernando
And then you went and did the same again
You did, my friend, Fernando

When you're old and gray, Fernando
And many years have passed since your bat was in your hand
Will you recall the slams, Fernando?
Will you still recall the fateful night in LALA Land?
And will you realize that those two slams were truly grand.

There was something in the air that night
The stars were bright, Fernando
They were there for your eight RBIs
Your two big flies, Fernando
We saw the first one leave the yard, we can't forget
And then you went and did the same again
You did, my friend, Fernando

There was something in the air that night
The stars were bright, Fernando
They were there for your eight RBIs
Your two big flies, Fernando
We saw the first one leave the yard, we can't forget
And then you went and did the same again
You did, my friend, Fernando ♫
 
2014-04-24 11:17:04 AM
I saw that on TV. They point it out in the article, but by far the most amazing thing about it was that he hit them both off the same pitcher. THAT part of the record will absolutely never be broken.
 
2014-04-24 11:48:06 AM
The Cardinals may not have the best team in Baseball, but they are the coolest.  Saint Louis is a true Baseball town.
 
2014-04-24 12:45:16 PM

Darth_Lukecash: The Cardinals may not have the best team in Baseball, but they are the coolest.  Saint Louis is a true Baseball town.


Thank you for saying that, I agree. Part of it is that other than a couple of good years for the Rams, we haven't had much success in any other sport. Youth soccer is insane here, partly due to the large Catholic population, but we've tried and failed to support even an indoor soccer team several times. The whole "best fans in baseball" thing was a media creation and many people cringe when they hear it just because it sounds so arrogant (even though deep inside we know it's true.) The new Ballpark Village constructed next to the ballpark, only about 5+ years late, was well worth the wait. Any big baseball fan visiting town should take the time to see it. Even though Anheuser-Busch is a major funder and owner, there are a huge number of microbrews, local and national (and probably international), on sale there. It's a huge hangout even before and during home and away Blues playoff games because Fox Midwest broadcasts all the games for both teams and there is a 40 foot TV in it.

/CSB
 
2014-04-24 12:56:26 PM
And McGwire has this look like, "Whoops, I accidentally left my 'roids in his locker."
 
2014-04-24 03:14:31 PM

show me: I saw that on TV. They point it out in the article, but by far the most amazing thing about it was that he hit them both off the same pitcher. THAT part of the record will absolutely never be broken.


I also saw both grand slams live on TV. All I can remember was saying "No farking way!" about 20 times after the second grand slam.
 
2014-04-24 03:17:59 PM
And they're both ex-Rangers
 
2014-04-24 03:20:22 PM

bluorangefyre: And McGwire has this look like, "Whoops, I accidentally left my 'roids in his locker."


He's thinking, "damn, another 5cc and that could have been me."
 
2014-04-24 03:31:32 PM
You know you're getting old when you swear you remember reading the original story on Fark.

/At the same desk
//At the same job.
///Three different computers since then, though.
 
2014-04-24 03:33:57 PM
How many times has a hitter even had 2 at bats with the bases loaded in one inning? Even just having 14 hitters in an inning is rare enough.

The sheer amount of things that have to align for this to happen make it pretty damn unlikely it will ever happen again.
 
2014-04-24 03:36:39 PM
You would think that they would pull the pitcher after allowing seven runs in the third inning, but I guess they played baseball a little differently in 1999.
 
2014-04-24 03:42:49 PM

Foxxinnia: You would think that they would pull the pitcher after allowing seven runs in the third inning, but I guess they played baseball a little differently in 1999.


I don't remember it (wasn't even in the US then) but I just assumed that Dusty Baker was somehow involved in teh pitching decisions.
 
2014-04-24 03:46:00 PM

Foxxinnia: You would think that they would pull the pitcher after allowing seven runs in the third inning, but I guess they played baseball a little differently in 1999.


Park also gave #71 and #72 to Barry Bonds. I think he might be the unluckiest pitcher of the 90s not named "Steve Avery".

// in terms of on-field luck, I mean
 
2014-04-24 03:47:36 PM

Foxxinnia: You would think that they would pull the pitcher after allowing seven runs in the third inning, but I guess they played baseball a little differently in 1999.


Could just be that the bullpen was gassed and they wrote off the game.

Or it could just be the manager letting his pitcher get rocked. It happens on occasion.
 
2014-04-24 03:54:48 PM

show me: The whole "best fans in baseball" thing was a media creation and many people cringe when they hear it just because it sounds so arrogant (even though deep inside we know it's true.)


Not this again.

/I'm sure you and most other fans are better fans than I am, but...
//It's arrogant as hell.
///Maybe it's easy to be a great fan when your chief rival is the Cubs.
 
2014-04-24 04:01:13 PM

dywed88: Could just be that the bullpen was gassed and they wrote off the game.

Or it could just be the manager letting his pitcher get rocked. It happens on occasion.


Chan ho Park was the starter IIRC.  Also they pulled him after three innings so I doubt anyone was gassed besides Park.
 
2014-04-24 04:04:43 PM

fickenchucker: You know you're getting old when you swear you remember reading the original story on Fark.

/At the same desk
//At the same job.
///Three different computers since then, though.


Let me guess:
on the 5th anniversary of Fernando Tatis hitting two grand slams in a single inning off the same pitcher
on the 10th anniversary of Fernando Tatis hitting two grand slams in a single inning off the same pitcher
 
2014-04-24 04:23:34 PM
I remember Tatis when he was with the Rangers. Totally tore a monster 3-runner at Camden Yards after me and my high school friends giggled like idiots because his last name looked like "Titties".

We were quite humbled by that shot to say the least.
 
2014-04-24 04:32:24 PM
Apparently, Tatis doesn't even own him the most. Anybody remember Brad Fullmer? Yeah, me neither, but that guy went 9 for 13 career against Park, with three doubles, two homers, and five RBI, plus 4 walks.

As far as Tatis goes, everybody knows, but that game ruined him for the rest of his career, essentially. Him and Hard Hittin Mark Whiten - two Cards players who had one incredible offensive performance in a game and then spent the rest of their career trying to repeat it.
 
2014-04-24 04:37:42 PM

show me: I saw that on TV. They point it out in the article, but by far the most amazing thing about it was that he hit them both off the same pitcher. THAT part of the record will absolutely never be broken.


This.  If the pitcher gives up a GS that's one thing but if he loads the bases again it's 'just not his night' and should have been pulled waaaaay before then.
 
2014-04-24 04:41:31 PM
Guess who had him in his lineup that day? This guy did.

Chan Ho Park, that is, not Tatis.
 
2014-04-24 04:43:25 PM

dywed88: How many times has a hitter even had 2 at bats with the bases loaded in one inning? Even just having 14 hitters in an inning is rare enough.

The sheer amount of things that have to align for this to happen make it pretty damn unlikely it will ever happen again.


I remember a few years back Tino Martinez hit a solo homer a 2-run homer, and a 3 run shot.All before the 5th inning.He had a chance to go for the cycle in homeruns.He came up twice with the bases loaded.Didnt get it though.
 
2014-04-24 04:59:31 PM
im sure theres a * next to that record.
 
2014-04-24 05:00:43 PM

Wadded Beef: show me: I saw that on TV. They point it out in the article, but by far the most amazing thing about it was that he hit them both off the same pitcher. THAT part of the record will absolutely never be broken.

This.  If the pitcher gives up a GS that's one thing but if he loads the bases again it's 'just not his night' and should have been pulled waaaaay before then.


Sometimes you get into a situation where you have to leave the pitcher out there if it is early in the game. You don't want to have to make your bullpen go for 6+ innings, so even if the starter is having a bad go, he is going to have to stay out there and eat innings.
 
2014-04-24 05:02:40 PM
Why is it always always always a visiting player who hits 2 slams in a game?

I don't know what the ratio actually is, but of the 10 or so instances I can recall where a player has done this, it has never been a home team player. Always the visiting team.

Has anyone ever done it at home?
 
2014-04-24 05:03:09 PM

Dr Dreidel: Foxxinnia: You would think that they would pull the pitcher after allowing seven runs in the third inning, but I guess they played baseball a little differently in 1999.

Park also gave #71 and #72 to Barry Bonds. I think he might be the unluckiest pitcher of the 90s not named "Steve Avery".

// in terms of on-field luck, I mean


Something about those Asian pitchers. Still have nightmares about the 2001 WS nearly being blown.
 
2014-04-24 05:18:39 PM
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/LAN/LAN199904230.shtml

The box score, just for fun. Park actually gave up another home run in between the two grand slams that inning.
 
2014-04-24 05:23:24 PM

phyrkrakr: Anybody remember Brad Fullmer?


The left half of the platoon for Scott Spiezio in ANA, paid a handsome wage by Texas to full time 1B/DH and didn't do too well(IIRC) because he forgot how to hit against lefties entirely
 
2014-04-24 05:35:02 PM
Darth_Lukecash:  Saint Louis is a true Baseball town.

and their farking fans never miss a chance to make that boast, either.
 
2014-04-24 05:37:50 PM
No love for Tony Cloninger?

He's the only pitcher in MLB history to HIT 2 grand slams in the same game.

cdn.fansided.com1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-04-24 05:52:06 PM

Uncle Pooky: Darth_Lukecash:  Saint Louis is a true Baseball town.

and their farking fans never miss a chance to make that boast, either.



St. Louis sucks, the Cardinals suck, Missouri sucks, Budweiser sucks, the arch sucks (because it's in St. Louis), and proven fact, the Mississippi river TOTALLY sucks in that region.

/Still bitter about the '82 Series.
//So as a reward for that bitterness, my kids were the Little League Cardinals three times.
///Farkin' Cards--hate that team.
 
2014-04-24 05:53:26 PM

ongbok: Wadded Beef: show me: I saw that on TV. They point it out in the article, but by far the most amazing thing about it was that he hit them both off the same pitcher. THAT part of the record will absolutely never be broken.

This.  If the pitcher gives up a GS that's one thing but if he loads the bases again it's 'just not his night' and should have been pulled waaaaay before then.

Sometimes you get into a situation where you have to leave the pitcher out there if it is early in the game. You don't want to have to make your bullpen go for 6+ innings, so even if the starter is having a bad go, he is going to have to stay out there and eat innings.


Which is fair, but if it's 7-2 in the third you still have an outside shot at winning.  After that second blast they were down by nine and then it was a foregone conclusion.

Park was taken out after that second blast which makes almost no sense at that point. Like you said, if you're going to lose then why exhaust your bullpen.
 
2014-04-24 06:27:41 PM

Darth_Lukecash: The Cardinals may not have the best team in Baseball, but they are the coolest.  Saint Louis is a true Baseball town.


Total anecdotal evidence here... but when I lived in Chicago and went to White Sox games, I caught 2 interleague series against the Cards.  Their fans could not have been more friendly.
 
2014-04-24 06:32:24 PM

ISO15693: Why is it always always always a visiting player who hits 2 slams in a game?

I don't know what the ratio actually is, but of the 10 or so instances I can recall where a player has done this, it has never been a home team player. Always the visiting team.

Has anyone ever done it at home?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Major_League_Baseball_hitters_w it h_two_grand_slams_in_one_game

Unfortunately for all the minutia in that article- the question you had isn't answered.  Now I'm curious.
 
2014-04-24 07:05:53 PM

downstairs: ISO15693: Why is it always always always a visiting player who hits 2 slams in a game?

I don't know what the ratio actually is, but of the 10 or so instances I can recall where a player has done this, it has never been a home team player. Always the visiting team.

Has anyone ever done it at home?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Major_League_Baseball_hitters_w it h_two_grand_slams_in_one_game

Unfortunately for all the minutia in that article- the question you had isn't answered.  Now I'm curious.


While that article doesn't have it, you can get the info from the cited source at Baseball-Almanac.com because it has all the box scores.
 From my quick scan of the box scores, the only time a home team player has hit 2 grand slams in a game is when Nomar Garciaparra did it against the Mariners on 5/10/99
http://www.baseball-almanac.com/box-scores/boxscore.php?boxid=199905 10 0BOS
 
2014-04-24 07:08:19 PM
And actually, reading that wiki article again, it does state that Nomar is the only player to do it at home, in the 3rd paragraph:
"Nomar Garciaparra is the sole player to achieve the feat at home, doing so at Fenway Park for the Boston Red Sox. "
 
2014-04-24 10:10:41 PM
After the Super Bowl, Tatis tweeted this gem:

"8 points in the superbowl...i had 8 rbi in one inning 9:48 PM - 2 Feb 2014"
 
2014-04-24 10:26:08 PM

Wadded Beef: ongbok: Wadded Beef: show me: I saw that on TV. They point it out in the article, but by far the most amazing thing about it was that he hit them both off the same pitcher. THAT part of the record will absolutely never be broken.

This.  If the pitcher gives up a GS that's one thing but if he loads the bases again it's 'just not his night' and should have been pulled waaaaay before then.

Sometimes you get into a situation where you have to leave the pitcher out there if it is early in the game. You don't want to have to make your bullpen go for 6+ innings, so even if the starter is having a bad go, he is going to have to stay out there and eat innings.

Which is fair, but if it's 7-2 in the third you still have an outside shot at winning.  After that second blast they were down by nine and then it was a foregone conclusion.

Park was taken out after that second blast which makes almost no sense at that point. Like you said, if you're going to lose then why exhaust your bullpen.


And if you look at retrosheet, the Dodgers were coming off a day off. They played 12 the game before, but Kevin Brown went 8 and they only used 3 guys from the pen. Looking back at the week before the starters didn't go particularly deep, but the bullpen workload was fairly evenly distributed. IOW, the based on the boxscores, the bullpen didn't seem gassed.

I will say that Davey Johnson seemed disinterested during his Dodgers tenure. I know he was pretty good everywhere else he managed, but it didn't seem like the Dodgers and Davey were a good fit.
 
2014-04-24 10:42:02 PM

fickenchucker: You know you're getting old when you swear you remember reading the original story on Fark.

/At the same desk
//At the same job.
///Three different computers since then, though.


Damn, if it was the same computer you could have set a record!
 
2014-04-24 10:47:59 PM

Uncle Pooky: Darth_Lukecash:  Saint Louis is a true Baseball town.

and their farking fans never miss a chance to make that boast, either.


Yeah, and it is. You gotta problem with it? I think when it comes to baseball Cardinal fans can back up their talk.
 
2014-04-24 11:52:18 PM

maxpower007: Uncle Pooky: Darth_Lukecash:  Saint Louis is a true Baseball town.

and their farking fans never miss a chance to make that boast, either.

Yeah, and it is. You gotta problem with it? I think when it comes to baseball Cardinal fans can back up their talk.


I just wish they realized non-cardinal fans don't give a damn.
 
2014-04-25 02:38:10 AM

downstairs: ISO15693: Why is it always always always a visiting player who hits 2 slams in a game?

I don't know what the ratio actually is, but of the 10 or so instances I can recall where a player has done this, it has never been a home team player. Always the visiting team.

Has anyone ever done it at home?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Major_League_Baseball_hitters_w it h_two_grand_slams_in_one_game

Unfortunately for all the minutia in that article- the question you had isn't answered.  Now I'm curious.


Garciaparra, the Mariners were at Boston.
 
2014-04-25 06:12:17 PM

Uncle Pooky: maxpower007: Uncle Pooky: Darth_Lukecash:  Saint Louis is a true Baseball town.

and their farking fans never miss a chance to make that boast, either.

Yeah, and it is. You gotta problem with it? I think when it comes to baseball Cardinal fans can back up their talk.

I just wish they realized non-cardinal fans don't give a damn.


And non-fans of any usually good team are the same way in any sport. So why should Cardinals fans be any different? Plus it's not like people are wearing Cardinal gear like it's Yankees, Lakers or Cowboys. This fascination that the Cardinals are in everyone's face telling them how good they are is really blown out of proportion.

What I don't get is that it seems like baseball fans want a team that is home grown/farm raised with a bunch of non-big name players to be a leader of the pack. And that's basically what the Cardinals are, yet they really don't get much respect from non-fans or media. Which I don't mind because I don't want them to turn into some huge organization like the Yankees any way.
 
2014-04-26 02:12:16 AM
I remember that happening.

There's no way it was 15 years ago.  No way, right?
 
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