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(Daily Mail)   Held by the TSA for 40 minutes and given a "intrusive physical body inspection" because you didn't want them to x-ray your breast-milk? That's a $75,000 legal settlement   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 71
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2014-04-24 09:48:45 AM
It's not really about the x-rays.

This lady wanted to opt her breast milk out of an x-ray scan.  The TSA has an alternative procedure for this.  She did her homework beforehand and printed it out from the TSA website.  When she asked for this, she was denied.  When she objected, she was detained, aggressively searched, and denied the opportunity to even show the agents the printout of their own procedure.

Poorly trained agents used their jobs in a punitive fashion.
 
2014-04-24 09:54:48 AM

dikkcor28: The eleventh of September certainly didn't help, but this has been a long time coming.  Check out George Carlin's You're All Diseased special (1999) if you haven't seen/listened to it yet.  He is one of many to call it well ahead of time.


Haha I love George Carlin. He's more of a scholar than a comedian to me, and I follow his teachings. Rest in Pieces George, he's down there in Hell screaming up at us..... And I think he's in pain.
 
2014-04-24 10:13:57 AM

JoieD'Zen: AverageAmericanGuy: fusillade762: While I'm always fine with a good "TSA gets their comeuppance" story, in this case I have to ask: what's going to happen to breast milk if you x-ray it?

The x-rays can degrade the quality of the proteins in the milk. If a mutation were to occur, you could end up causing your child to develop cancer.

The TSA causes cancer.

When i was breastfeeding and had overflow I would hand pump my milk and store it in glass bottles in the freezer. My doctor told me that micro waving would denature the milk.
F*ck the TSA.


How dare you believe a medical professional! Hopefully your child wasn't irreparably damaged the advice those foolish "doctors" gave you. Next time you'll know to take your questions straight to the experts at Fark.
 
2014-04-24 10:25:27 AM

fusillade762: While I'm always fine with a good "TSA gets their comeuppance" story, in this case I have to ask: what's going to happen to breast milk if you x-ray it?


Agreed.  Where's the harm?

JoieD'Zen: When i was breastfeeding and had overflow I would hand pump my milk and store it in glass bottles in the freezer. My doctor told me that micro waving would denature the milk.
F*ck the TSA.


There would be some damage--too much energy.

Public Savant: /Protein is protein - the aminoacids stay the same and that is what the food gets broken down to before your intestines absorb them anyway...
/Feel free to educate the rest of the trailerpark about this.


Seconded.

James Rieper: It's not really about the x-rays.

This lady wanted to opt her breast milk out of an x-ray scan. The TSA has an alternative procedure for this. She did her homework beforehand and printed it out from the TSA website. When she asked for this, she was denied. When she objected, she was detained, aggressively searched, and denied the opportunity to even show the agents the printout of their own procedure.

Poorly trained agents used their jobs in a punitive fashion.


Yup.  There was no reasonable reason for the refusal but I support the judgment anyway because of this.
 
2014-04-24 10:32:59 AM
Until the TSA can stop people from crawling over the fence and hiding in the wheel well, then all of this "You can't bring on a tube of toothpaste and we're going to x-ray your milk" crap is 100% useless.  I suspect it would be useless anyway, but right now, anyone that wants to carry a backpack full of explosives and put it on a plane can do it.
 
2014-04-24 11:24:22 AM

fusillade762: While I'm always fine with a good "TSA gets their comeuppance" story, in this case I have to ask: what's going to happen to breast milk if you x-ray it?


The bottom line is we only have the word of the contractors that built the rape-scanners and x-ray machines that they in fact safe. We could all be walking through Pryipat time Fukishima radiation levels and never know it until it's too late. This lady took a better safe than sorry tactic, in accordance with the rules set up by the TSA, and got pilloried for it. Glad to see she got something back. 

/In the meanwhile, TSA has STILL never caught an actual terrorist or found a real bomb, improperly detained thousands, screwed up every time there were tested to see if they could find a bomb...but teenagers hang around the tarmac for hours then climb into wheel wells. The TSA is worthless and needs to be disbanded. Replace it with a duplicate of Irish or Israeli airport security.
 
2014-04-24 12:48:55 PM

eggrolls: fusillade762: While I'm always fine with a good "TSA gets their comeuppance" story, in this case I have to ask: what's going to happen to breast milk if you x-ray it?

The bottom line is we only have the word of the contractors that built the rape-scanners and x-ray machines that they in fact safe. We could all be walking through Pryipat time Fukishima radiation levels and never know it until it's too late. This lady took a better safe than sorry tactic, in accordance with the rules set up by the TSA, and got pilloried for it. Glad to see she got something back. 

/In the meanwhile, TSA has STILL never caught an actual terrorist or found a real bomb, improperly detained thousands, screwed up every time there were tested to see if they could find a bomb...but teenagers hang around the tarmac for hours then climb into wheel wells. The TSA is worthless and needs to be disbanded. Replace it with a duplicate of Irish or Israeli airport security.


Consider this: you have nobody's word that it is safe to walk down the street.  You could be walking through those same levels of radiation, and you wouldn't know until it was too late.  Tinfoil should protect you though.
 
2014-04-24 01:17:00 PM
He confirmed that current TSA regulations classify breast milk as liquid medication
Yeah?  Did ya?


Well, it isn't you  dumb motherf*ckers, is it?


You protect - NOTHING - you prevent - NOTHING - you steal, you lie and you feel up 6 year old girls' privates.  Go home.  You ARE the terrorists, you dime store thugs.  Go.  Home.
 
2014-04-24 02:01:06 PM
So basically, people like her are the reasons why lines at airports are so long. "I want special treatment, the rules that apply to the rest of society doesn't apply to me."
 
2014-04-24 02:08:33 PM

Rurouni: So basically, people like her are the reasons why lines at airports are so long. "I want special treatment, the rules that apply to the rest of society doesn't apply to me."


The "rules" in question that apply to society are useless, insulting, piss weak and serve nothing but oppression.  That's how new countries get started.  Usually on the ashes of the one that was chock full of people who would kiss any ass thrust into their faces if it meant not inconvenienced.
 
2014-04-24 02:16:02 PM

serial_crusher: AverageAmericanGuy: fusillade762: While I'm always fine with a good "TSA gets their comeuppance" story, in this case I have to ask: what's going to happen to breast milk if you x-ray it?

The x-rays can degrade the quality of the proteins in the milk. If a mutation were to occur, you could end up causing your child to develop cancer.

The TSA causes cancer.

Could also turn into a breast milk based superhero, if I understand my comics right.


Yeah, just look at spider man. He can do whatever a spider can, hey listen bud he's got radioactive blood.
 
2014-04-24 02:35:38 PM
Not like its comes out of the TSA's budget. So why should they care.
 
2014-04-24 03:57:35 PM

itsaidwhat: Nothing. Absolutely nothing. Lady was birth hormone crazy. The total energy absorbed from those X-rays will not do anything. She should be more concerned about dragging children through a nasty airport & airplane.


My standard answer is.

I know that those x-rays aren't going to do shi'at. But she doesn't know that, all she knows is the people entrusted to tell the truth about such things lie reflexively. And she's right, they do lie. So really why blame her especially when the whole thing is a big waste of time and money?

Personally I think a lot of this has to do with, the people that run the TSA 'industry' know that if people start standing up to the TSA on a regular basis the whole thing falls apart and the gravy train comes to a stop. So the first overriding rule is, knuckle under 'citizen' and no questioning of the utility of what they do will be entertained, ever.
 
2014-04-24 04:20:17 PM
1.  Airport X-ray machines have an exposure far lower than the exposure you will get during your flight at 30,000 feet.  If you don't have some sort of method that you will use to shield your belongings while you are on board the aircraft, you have no stance to complain about the x-rays from the airport machines.

2.  Did a doctor tell you not to X-ray breast milk?  If so, I can already tell this is a doctor that didn't got to any reputable medical school.
 
2014-04-24 04:22:35 PM

gibbon1: So the first overriding rule is, knuckle under 'citizen' and no questioning of the utility of what they do will be entertained, ever.



"Do you want fascism?  Cause that's how you get fascism."

 
2014-04-24 05:37:10 PM

mrmopar5287: 1.  Airport X-ray machines have an exposure far lower than the exposure you will get during your flight at 30,000 feet.  If you don't have some sort of method that you will use to shield your belongings while you are on board the aircraft, you have no stance to complain about the x-rays from the airport machines.

2.  Did a doctor tell you not to X-ray breast milk?  If so, I can already tell this is a doctor that didn't got to any reputable medical school.


The TSA brought this upon themselves by setting up an unnecessary procedure for breast milk, and then failing to follow it.

X-rays are, of course, harmless to milk.  Had their procedure been that the milk either goes through the machine or doesn't get on the plane, there wouldn't have been an issue.  Their entire liquids procedure is utterly stupid, so no surprise that their exception to that procedure is also stupid.
 
2014-04-24 05:50:47 PM

JuggleGeek: Until the TSA can stop people from crawling over the fence and hiding in the wheel well


Uh, that's not really their job.  Individual airports are responsible for an overall security plan and the TSA does what is mandated by Congress: passenger screening and baggage screening.
 
2014-04-24 08:44:38 PM

mrmopar5287: Uh, that's not really their job.


It doesn't matter.  If anyone who wants to blow up a plane can crawl over the fence, shove a bag of explosives into the wheelwell, and nobody is going to stop him, then the TSA has no farking business groping grandma and telling people they can't bring a bottle of water on board the plane.

They are doing a bunch of invasive crap that does absolutely no good, and they say it's "in the name of safety".  But in actual fact, anyone that wants to blow up a plane can do it, easily.
 
2014-04-24 09:59:59 PM
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2014-04-24 10:12:44 PM

serial_crusher: eggrolls: fusillade762: While I'm always fine with a good "TSA gets their comeuppance" story, in this case I have to ask: what's going to happen to breast milk if you x-ray it?

The bottom line is we only have the word of the contractors that built the rape-scanners and x-ray machines that they in fact safe. We could all be walking through Pryipat time Fukishima radiation levels and never know it until it's too late. This lady took a better safe than sorry tactic, in accordance with the rules set up by the TSA, and got pilloried for it. Glad to see she got something back. 

/In the meanwhile, TSA has STILL never caught an actual terrorist or found a real bomb, improperly detained thousands, screwed up every time there were tested to see if they could find a bomb...but teenagers hang around the tarmac for hours then climb into wheel wells. The TSA is worthless and needs to be disbanded. Replace it with a duplicate of Irish or Israeli airport security.

Consider this: you have nobody's word that it is safe to walk down the street.  You could be walking through those same levels of radiation, and you wouldn't know until it was too late.  Tinfoil should protect you though.


I've also never been told walking the street was perfectly safe. Yet the TSA and Rapidscan insist the xray machines are safe for everyone - children, the elderly, the pregnant, the immuno-compromised, even the TSA staff standing near them for hours at a time -based upon Rapidscan's own internal testing, although they refuse to allow anyone else to independently verify this claim. Curious that.

Life indeed isn't safe, but it doesn't go out of its way to make a profit by undermining what little safety I do have.
 
2014-04-24 10:32:49 PM
A settlement is much worse than a ruling because it has no effect whatsoever on the legal system. This is bullshiat capitulation by the complainant.
 
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