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(Washington Post)   Obama: WE MUST RAISE MINIMUM WAGE. WE MUST PAY WORKERS A LIVING SALARY. White House interns: Cool, does that mean you'll start paying us now? Obama: AND NOW I MUST DEPART FOR ASIA   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 179
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2014-04-23 09:19:56 PM
You have to donate a lot of money to get one of those jobs.
 
2014-04-23 09:26:48 PM
Why is Obama acting like Samuel L. Jackson?
 
2014-04-23 09:42:05 PM
You're internship is at the White House. Also, you knew what you were getting when you signed up for the gig, and you had to jump through 12 freakin' hoops to get there!
 
2014-04-23 09:46:31 PM

BSABSVR: Why is Obama acting like Samuel L. Jackson?


YES THEY DESERVE TO DIE AND I HOPE THEY BURN IN HELL!
 
2014-04-23 09:57:04 PM

HawgWild: You're internship is at the White House. Also, you knew what you were getting when you signed up for the gig, and you had to jump through 12 freakin' hoops to get there!


Couldn't you say that about somebody working for minimum wage at a fast food joint? I mean, except the 12 freakin' hoops.
 
2014-04-23 10:09:31 PM
WHAT'S WITH THE FRIKKING CAPS?
 
2014-04-23 10:37:25 PM
Can you just imagine the GOP derpstorm if Obama decided to pay White House interns?
 
2014-04-23 11:06:17 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: WHAT'S WITH THE FRIKKING CAPS?


In Subby's fantasies Obama is voiced by Brian Blessed
 
2014-04-23 11:08:22 PM
Interns aren't working for a living, they're interns, they know the gig when they sign up for it.  That being said, the article does make a good point about it being difficult for students from lower-income families to take advantage of the program due to the expense of living in DC.

Setting aside a dorm for the interns and providing them with room and board for the period of their service would be a nice compromise and help level the playing field for who can afford to apply.
 
2014-04-23 11:48:00 PM

TuteTibiImperes: Interns aren't working for a living, they're interns, they know the gig when they sign up for it.  That being said, the article does make a good point about it being difficult for students from lower-income families to take advantage of the program due to the expense of living in DC.

Setting aside a dorm for the interns and providing them with room and board for the period of their service would be a nice compromise and help level the playing field for who can afford to apply.


As this is now going green, let me say that I shamelessly stole that from JasonOfOrillia
 
2014-04-23 11:51:46 PM
News Flash: most interns don't get paid.
 
2014-04-23 11:52:13 PM

TuteTibiImperes: Interns aren't working for a living, they're interns, they know the gig when they sign up for it.  That being said, the article does make a good point about it being difficult for students from lower-income families to take advantage of the program due to the expense of living in DC.

Setting aside a dorm for the interns and providing them with room and board for the period of their service would be a nice compromise and help level the playing field for who can afford to apply.


Bingo.  That's the problem with unpaid internships.  They are not working for a living, but it's easier to do that if mom and dad are making up the difference.  It's an incredibly sweet gig (put that shiat on your resume!) and it should be feasible for the best qualified* folks to get it, not just those who can do it plus eat.

Room and board is a good step forward, but I the way I see it if someone if working for you in any capacity, farking pay them.

*yes I know this has little to do with it, but uh, yeah
 
2014-04-23 11:53:39 PM

TuteTibiImperes: TuteTibiImperes: Interns aren't working for a living, they're interns, they know the gig when they sign up for it.  That being said, the article does make a good point about it being difficult for students from lower-income families to take advantage of the program due to the expense of living in DC.

Setting aside a dorm for the interns and providing them with room and board for the period of their service would be a nice compromise and help level the playing field for who can afford to apply.

As this is now going green, let me say that I shamelessly stole that from JasonOfOrillia


Must be Derpsday again
 
2014-04-23 11:53:41 PM

TuteTibiImperes: TuteTibiImperes: Interns aren't working for a living, they're interns, they know the gig when they sign up for it.  That being said, the article does make a good point about it being difficult for students from lower-income families to take advantage of the program due to the expense of living in DC.

Setting aside a dorm for the interns and providing them with room and board for the period of their service would be a nice compromise and help level the playing field for who can afford to apply.

As this is now going green, let me say that I shamelessly stole that from JasonOfOrillia


What?  Stole?  I recognize none of this.  But if it is good I will totally take credit for it.
 
2014-04-23 11:57:13 PM

JasonOfOrillia: TuteTibiImperes: TuteTibiImperes: Interns aren't working for a living, they're interns, they know the gig when they sign up for it.  That being said, the article does make a good point about it being difficult for students from lower-income families to take advantage of the program due to the expense of living in DC.

Setting aside a dorm for the interns and providing them with room and board for the period of their service would be a nice compromise and help level the playing field for who can afford to apply.

As this is now going green, let me say that I shamelessly stole that from JasonOfOrillia

What?  Stole?  I recognize none of this.  But if it is good I will totally take credit for it.


The Brian Blessed bit, from the Flash Gordon thread

/oh, I just realize I quoted the wrong one of my posts, now I see why it's confusing
 
2014-04-24 12:00:02 AM
Blessed Flash Gordon:
img.fark.net
 
2014-04-24 12:02:57 AM

JasonOfOrillia: Blessed Flash Gordon:
[img.fark.net image 500x214]


He looks pretty swarthy in that photo.  Perhaps he could play Obama in the inevitable biopic.
 
2014-04-24 12:34:57 AM

TuteTibiImperes: JasonOfOrillia: Blessed Flash Gordon:
[img.fark.net image 500x214]

He looks pretty swarthy in that photo.  Perhaps he could play Obama in the inevitable biopic.


That's probably the image of Obama lodged in conservatives heads already. Howling with screaming fury to dash from the sky and rip them to pieces.

When it's not Weak, Empty Suit day, that is.
 
2014-04-24 12:45:53 AM
No, it would be a good faith effort if the White House paid interns the minimum wage.

Don't kid yourself, Republican scum will tally the payroll, and advertise how much this is increasing the national debt. They will probably also show it's almost as much as we're giving to NPR, and we all know how huge that is.
 
2014-04-24 01:10:38 AM

BalugaJoe: You have to donate a lot of money to get one of those jobs.


Volunteering for the campaign also gets your foot in the door. That's how my sister got it.

/Getting a kick, etc
 
2014-04-24 01:40:51 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2014-04-24 01:49:00 AM

Somacandra: [i.imgur.com image 500x214]


Oh, now, that's just glorious

/and now stolen
 
2014-04-24 01:53:07 AM
Maybe it's because it's not the President's decision and Congress would have to approve it?
 
2014-04-24 01:54:33 AM
I would not be sorry to either see internships paid (even if it was only gas/mileage) or abolished.

Seriously, it's become a disgrace, what firms put students through, in the name of "experience".
 
2014-04-24 01:58:53 AM

Gyrfalcon: I would not be sorry to either see internships paid (even if it was only gas/mileage) or abolished.

Seriously, it's become a disgrace, what firms put students through, in the name of "experience".


This. Once upon a time, it was an exchange of labor for knowledge, contacts and practical experience. Now it's slave labor making copies and fetching coffee.
 
2014-04-24 02:08:36 AM

BSABSVR: Why is Obama acting like Samuel L. Jackson?


OUTRAGEOUS!  THAT HEADLINE IS JUST WRITTEN HOW MEN OF GREAT HEROISM AND AUTHORITY ALWAYS SPEAK, YOU FIEND!

static.comicvine.com
 
2014-04-24 02:14:24 AM
meh...too much effort subby.

Need to troll slow.
 
2014-04-24 02:14:45 AM

eggrolls: Gyrfalcon: I would not be sorry to either see internships paid (even if it was only gas/mileage) or abolished.

Seriously, it's become a disgrace, what firms put students through, in the name of "experience".

This. Once upon a time, it was an exchange of labor for knowledge, contacts and practical experience. Now it's slave labor making copies and fetching coffee.


So we are all agreed with the Washington Post that Interns should be paid?
 
2014-04-24 02:15:08 AM

WhyteRaven74: Maybe it's because it's not the President's decision and Congress would have to approve it?


I have a feeling that this will end up going something like this.

Conservatives: Obama wants to raise minimum wage but he refuses to pay his interns!

Obama: Well you make a point there. We need to look into and address White House and Congressional intern compensation.

Conservatives: Hey hey, wait a minute. We didn't say all that.
 
2014-04-24 02:15:53 AM
There's a GS level for interns, when I worked for the government my team had an intern that was paid (dude was awesome, did all my PowerPoint slides for me and was amazeballs at it).

That said, there are also rules for unpaid internships set in labor law for each state and, I assume, the District. It's basically that they not be doing *real* work that you need to get done, they do stuff that let them have some small involvement and a lot of observation. Along the lines of "greet these visitors and show them to the conference room, fetch some copies of the handouts, drive me around to my appointments", etc. Stuff that you could do yourself or do without, but they're volunteering
 
2014-04-24 02:20:13 AM

MisterRonbo: There's a GS level for interns, when I worked for the government my team had an intern that was paid (dude was awesome, did all my PowerPoint slides for me and was amazeballs at it).

That said, there are also rules for unpaid internships set in labor law for each state and, I assume, the District. It's basically that they not be doing *real* work that you need to get done, they do stuff that let them have some small involvement and a lot of observation. Along the lines of "greet these visitors and show them to the conference room, fetch some copies of the handouts, drive me around to my appointments", etc. Stuff that you could do yourself or do without, but they're volunteering


Pretty much this. Political internships are more or less volunteering.

Frankly, I'd call the GOP (and their mouthpiece the WaPO) on this and be all like, "Okay, they're all getting minimum wage now. So you'll vote for the increase right?"

Of course they won't, but it also won't stop their little monkey heads from flinging poop everywhere either.
 
2014-04-24 02:21:12 AM
A lot of the college-educated people I know who are anti minimum wage refer to high school and college jobs as "side money."  Makes sense when you have parents who paid for your housing, education, car insurance, gasoline, etc.
 
2014-04-24 02:35:14 AM
If they got paid, they wouldn't be interns
 
2014-04-24 02:37:35 AM
Obama has cleaning staff in the house he lives in, therefore he is not allowed to oppose slavery.

CorporatePerson: A lot of the college-educated people I know who are anti minimum wage refer to high school and college jobs as "side money."  Makes sense when you have parents who paid for your housing, education, car insurance, gasoline, etc.


One of the many, many myths that privileged people cling to is the idea that minimum wage is only earned by teenagers in high school.

They do all kinds of math and outright lying to convince themselves it's still true, and therefore okay to cheat and abuse them.
 
2014-04-24 02:42:57 AM

impaler: No, it would be a good faith effort if the White House paid interns the minimum wage.

Don't kid yourself, Republican scum will tally the payroll, and advertise how much this is increasing the national debt. They will probably also show it's almost as much as we're giving to NPR, and we all know how huge that is.


The White House could counter this by totaling up the Republican's greens fees.
 
2014-04-24 02:56:30 AM
White House internship doesn't bother me a bit.

What bugs me is the number of companies that offer "internships" in places and positions that do not give you any useful skills or networking to advance your career.

INTERNSHIP AVAILABLE: Apply at Doug's Car Wash...
 
2014-04-24 02:58:59 AM

MisterRonbo: There's a GS level for interns, when I worked for the government my team had an intern that was paid (dude was awesome, did all my PowerPoint slides for me and was amazeballs at it).

That said, there are also rules for unpaid internships set in labor law for each state and, I assume, the District. It's basically that they not be doing *real* work that you need to get done, they do stuff that let them have some small involvement and a lot of observation. Along the lines of "greet these visitors and show them to the conference room, fetch some copies of the handouts, drive me around to my appointments", etc. Stuff that you could do yourself or do without, but they're volunteering


When I worked as an intern in a state senator's office, I wrote statutory language that is now law.
 
2014-04-24 02:59:07 AM
Is there a difference between an unpaid internship, the room/board for which one must pay oneself, and a university scholarship that covers registration fees/tuition but not housing?
 
2014-04-24 02:59:38 AM
How much is it worth on an application "White house Intern" as experience and Mr. W. Neil Eggleston and Obama as references? Seems like a valuable way to get your foot in the door anywhere.

But everyone ranting about raising the min wage not based on actual skill or worth to the company but on their existence only, min wage seems a fair deal.
 
2014-04-24 03:00:29 AM

BSABSVR: Why is Obama acting like Samuel L. Jackson?


i.imgur.com

I got more of a Tolkien vibe.
 
2014-04-24 03:36:09 AM

Tetrazphere: How much is it worth on an application "White house Intern" as experience and Mr. W. Neil Eggleston and Obama as references? Seems like a valuable way to get your foot in the door anywhere.

But everyone ranting about raising the min wage not based on actual skill or worth to the company but on their existence only, min wage seems a fair deal.


But if you don't have any money to begin with, you're living on the street for that reference.
 
2014-04-24 03:37:54 AM

Jim_Callahan: BSABSVR: Why is Obama acting like Samuel L. Jackson?

OUTRAGEOUS!  THAT HEADLINE IS JUST WRITTEN HOW MEN OF GREAT HEROISM AND AUTHORITY ALWAYS SPEAK, YOU FIEND!

[static.comicvine.com image 640x360]




I love you in a manly way.
 
2014-04-24 03:42:55 AM

TuteTibiImperes: MaudlinMutantMollusk: WHAT'S WITH THE FRIKKING CAPS?

In Subby's fantasies Obama is voiced by Brian Blessed


http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=L1zjeYhJs7o


Some kingly advice

 
2014-04-24 04:27:32 AM
Pfft. Interns should have to pay to work in the White House. They are either getting college credit or networking for future gigs.
 
2014-04-24 05:09:11 AM
It's a great gig that will ensure good things in their future. That being said pay the kids minimum wage.
 
2014-04-24 05:16:03 AM

rzrwiresunrise: Is there a difference between an unpaid internship, the room/board for which one must pay oneself, and a university scholarship that covers registration fees/tuition but not housing?


This. And rather than paying them, there should be a scholarship program for the internships, that provides a housing and expenses stipend if you are not able to afford them yourself, opening up the internships to people without a trust fund from Hollingsworth Hound III.
 
2014-04-24 05:51:31 AM
ARE WE ALL.STILL YELLING? I WANT TO YELL, TOO!!!
 
2014-04-24 05:52:24 AM
What, working with evil folk isn't payment enough? The chance to fill evil positions isn't enticing enough for the power-hungry farks who would apply for such positions?
 
2014-04-24 06:08:11 AM

WhyteRaven74: Maybe it's because it's not the President's decision and Congress would have to approve it?


Quiet you, you'll ruin a perfectly good non-rage.
=Smidge=
 
2014-04-24 06:14:37 AM

propasaurus: Can you just imagine the GOP derpstorm if Obama decided to pay White House interns?


which one is the fat ugly whore who wears a blue dress?
 
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