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2014-04-23 08:45:42 PM
How I Met Some Schlub Who Decided to "Settle."
 
2014-04-23 08:47:10 PM
Greta Gerwig will play the mother? She's a cutie.
 
2014-04-23 08:59:50 PM
I liked How I Met Your Mother.  It had more ups than downs and was overall a very enjoyable show (although yes, I did hate the final episode).  But I have a feeling that How I Met Your Dad is gonna suck.
 
2014-04-23 09:01:56 PM
Have there been any/many 'spinoff' shows like this that really succeeded? I know there are a few which exploded, but it seems like the lion's share (more than 90%) just fail.
 
2014-04-23 09:04:54 PM
I don't get the HIMYM finale hate - I thought it was a great ending for the series.  They even laid some pretty heavy clues about the mom's fate a few episodes before the end.

I'll catch this new one and see how it is.  It was the cast that made HIMYM work so well, not so much the premise.  The best comedies are always cast-driven.  If you can get a bunch of people with good chemistry and solid talent together, they'll make it work.
 
2014-04-23 09:06:04 PM

Kamala's Bowling Partner: How I Met Some Schlub Who Decided to "Settle."


More like: How I settled with some schlub after screwing away my 20's and early 30's. Now go get mommy some more wine while I Facebook stalk all the 10's I cheated on.
 
2014-04-23 09:06:09 PM
How I learned to change the channel.
 
2014-04-23 09:06:46 PM
I'll have what she's having
 
2014-04-23 09:14:05 PM
That's enough, CBS.
 
2014-04-23 09:15:33 PM

kroonermanblack: Have there been any/many 'spinoff' shows like this that really succeeded? I know there are a few which exploded, but it seems like the lion's share (more than 90%) just fail.


There are a few spin-off shows that actually became more popular than the shows they spun off from.

"Saved By The Bell" was more popular than "Good Morning Miss Bliss"
"The Andy Griffith Show" was more popular than "The Danny Thomas Show"
"Family Matters" was more popular than "Perfect Strangers"
"Xena: Warrior Princess" was a more popular spin-off of "Hercules: The Legendary Journeys"
"NCIS" is a spin-off of "JAG" that has gotten better ratings and is generally considered to be a better show.
"Law & Order: Special Victims Unit" has gotten better ratings and more acclaim than "Law & Order"
"Laverne and Shirley" stomped "Happy Days" in the ratings almost from its debut episode.
 
2014-04-23 09:19:15 PM

darkjezter: "Family Matters" was more popular than "Perfect Strangers"


And that is a tragedy right there.
 
2014-04-23 09:20:14 PM
How I met your plastic grandmother
 
2014-04-23 09:25:27 PM

darkjezter: kroonermanblack: Have there been any/many 'spinoff' shows like this that really succeeded? I know there are a few which exploded, but it seems like the lion's share (more than 90%) just fail.

There are a few spin-off shows that actually became more popular than the shows they spun off from.

"Saved By The Bell" was more popular than "Good Morning Miss Bliss"
"The Andy Griffith Show" was more popular than "The Danny Thomas Show"
"Family Matters" was more popular than "Perfect Strangers"
"Xena: Warrior Princess" was a more popular spin-off of "Hercules: The Legendary Journeys"
"NCIS" is a spin-off of "JAG" that has gotten better ratings and is generally considered to be a better show.
"Law & Order: Special Victims Unit" has gotten better ratings and more acclaim than "Law & Order"
"Laverne and Shirley" stomped "Happy Days" in the ratings almost from its debut episode.


"Psych" was more popular than "Scrubs"
 
2014-04-23 09:29:49 PM

darkjezter: kroonermanblack: Have there been any/many 'spinoff' shows like this that really succeeded? I know there are a few which exploded, but it seems like the lion's share (more than 90%) just fail.

There are a few spin-off shows that actually became more popular than the shows they spun off from.

"Saved By The Bell" was more popular than "Good Morning Miss Bliss"
"The Andy Griffith Show" was more popular than "The Danny Thomas Show"
"Family Matters" was more popular than "Perfect Strangers"
"Xena: Warrior Princess" was a more popular spin-off of "Hercules: The Legendary Journeys"
"NCIS" is a spin-off of "JAG" that has gotten better ratings and is generally considered to be a better show.
"Law & Order: Special Victims Unit" has gotten better ratings and more acclaim than "Law & Order"
"Laverne and Shirley" stomped "Happy Days" in the ratings almost from its debut episode.


Is Saved By the Bell considered a spinoff?  It seemed more like a retooling of an existing show to shift the focus onto a different central character.
 
2014-04-23 09:39:01 PM

darkjezter: kroonermanblack: Have there been any/many 'spinoff' shows like this that really succeeded? I know there are a few which exploded, but it seems like the lion's share (more than 90%) just fail.

There are a few spin-off shows that actually became more popular than the shows they spun off from.

"Saved By The Bell" was more popular than "Good Morning Miss Bliss"
"The Andy Griffith Show" was more popular than "The Danny Thomas Show"
"Family Matters" was more popular than "Perfect Strangers"
"Xena: Warrior Princess" was a more popular spin-off of "Hercules: The Legendary Journeys"
"NCIS" is a spin-off of "JAG" that has gotten better ratings and is generally considered to be a better show.
"Law & Order: Special Victims Unit" has gotten better ratings and more acclaim than "Law & Order"
"Laverne and Shirley" stomped "Happy Days" in the ratings almost from its debut episode.


Fraiser was nearly as big as Cheers. Not quite more popular like those others, but it was a huge success in its own right.
 
2014-04-23 09:44:04 PM
Am I the only one who thinks it should be "How I Met Your Father" not "How I Met Your Dad"?   Maybe it's just the OCD or SAT analogy part of my brain that thinks mom/dad :: mother/father.
 
2014-04-23 09:53:13 PM
While I had my criticisms of HIMYM, I'm still a fan of the show. I especially enjoyed the final season, as the show did a lot of things right on its final lap. And I really did like the final episode. It makes the entire series, and the path of the narrative, make a lot more sense. It was a good ending, and even though I wish it was a 100% happy ending, I respect the show for what it did. (Especially committing to the ending back in season 2.)

I'm going to give this new series a shot. I fear, however, that the creators may have used up all their juice on the original series and this will be more like Scrubs Season 9 rather than Frasier. If they go for more of the same, then audiences will quickly grow tired of rewatching a show they've already seen and not want to stick around another 9 years.
 
2014-04-23 09:53:32 PM

TuteTibiImperes: I don't get the HIMYM finale hate - I thought it was a great ending for the series.  They even laid some pretty heavy clues about the mom's fate a few episodes before the end.


Because people are dumb. They dropped hints about it through the whole series, but people want the boring, "happy" ending.

As long as they don't show Meg Ryan's creepy plastic surgery face. No one needs to see that.
 
2014-04-23 10:12:08 PM
Spoiler alert: this won't end well.
 
2014-04-23 10:17:01 PM

Fark You I'm Drunk: TuteTibiImperes: I don't get the HIMYM finale hate - I thought it was a great ending for the series.  They even laid some pretty heavy clues about the mom's fate a few episodes before the end.

Because people are dumb. They dropped hints about it through the whole series, but people want the boring, "happy" ending.

As long as they don't show Meg Ryan's creepy plastic surgery face. No one needs to see that.


Precisely. There were all kinds of hints that it wasn't really about the mother, it was Ted telling the kids about Robin while reassuring them that he loved their mother.

It's like if they made a prequel to "As Time Goes By" about Lionel's first marriage.
 
2014-04-23 10:21:56 PM

Fark You I'm Drunk: TuteTibiImperes: I don't get the HIMYM finale hate - I thought it was a great ending for the series.  They even laid some pretty heavy clues about the mom's fate a few episodes before the end.

Because people are dumb. They dropped hints about it through the whole series, but people want the boring, "happy" ending.

As long as they don't show Meg Ryan's creepy plastic surgery face. No one needs to see that.


Maybe people just got tired of the endless Ted is in love with Robin, wait no he's not, wait yes he is, ad nauseum.  The show was without a doubt the biggest farking tease in television history, and the ending was predictably awful.  If HIMYM was a chick she'd be really hot and great at giving blowjobs but would never give you one because reasons.
 
2014-04-23 10:22:43 PM

darkjezter: kroonermanblack: Have there been any/many 'spinoff' shows like this that really succeeded? I know there are a few which exploded, but it seems like the lion's share (more than 90%) just fail.

There are a few spin-off shows that actually became more popular than the shows they spun off from.

"Saved By The Bell" was more popular than "Good Morning Miss Bliss"
"The Andy Griffith Show" was more popular than "The Danny Thomas Show"
"Family Matters" was more popular than "Perfect Strangers"
"Xena: Warrior Princess" was a more popular spin-off of "Hercules: The Legendary Journeys"
"NCIS" is a spin-off of "JAG" that has gotten better ratings and is generally considered to be a better show.
"Law & Order: Special Victims Unit" has gotten better ratings and more acclaim than "Law & Order"
"Laverne and Shirley" stomped "Happy Days" in the ratings almost from its debut episode.


...and then there's "Maude".
 
2014-04-23 10:33:22 PM

Cymbal: Maybe people just got tired of the endless Ted is in love with Robin, wait no he's not, wait yes he is, ad nauseum.


I got tired of that by the second season. The relationship arcs were hardly the show's best feature. I feel bad for anyone watching for that reason, or anyone tuning in weekly and watching intently.

//caught most of the show on netflix during work
//probably missed a good half of it
 
2014-04-23 10:34:31 PM

TuteTibiImperes: I don't get the HIMYM finale hate - I thought it was a great ending for the series.  They even laid some pretty heavy clues about the mom's fate a few episodes before the end.

I'll catch this new one and see how it is.  It was the cast that made HIMYM work so well, not so much the premise.  The best comedies are always cast-driven.  If you can get a bunch of people with good chemistry and solid talent together, they'll make it work.


To me, the issue was just one of pacing.
You spent 20ish episodes over 2 days of show time.  Including doing some filler episodes.
Then you spend 20 minutes to resolve that season. Then 20 minutes to cover the next 20 years, where they just hit you with gut punch after gut punch.  You don't have time to really absorb and get where the characters are.  They needed to either resolve the wedding an episode or two earlier, or make it a 90 minute finale and let us get to know the mother, get over her loss and then move on.

But otherwise I liked the finale - I thought its themes matched with that of the show overall and it wrapped everything up nicely.  And once you had time to get over the emotional kneejerk reactions you have time to appreciate it.
 
2014-04-23 11:01:42 PM
Of course she'll be doing voiceover work.

You'd hate to put that in front of the camera nowadays...
 
2014-04-23 11:01:58 PM

Caeldan: TuteTibiImperes: I don't get the HIMYM finale hate - I thought it was a great ending for the series.  They even laid some pretty heavy clues about the mom's fate a few episodes before the end.

I'll catch this new one and see how it is.  It was the cast that made HIMYM work so well, not so much the premise.  The best comedies are always cast-driven.  If you can get a bunch of people with good chemistry and solid talent together, they'll make it work.

To me, the issue was just one of pacing.
You spent 20ish episodes over 2 days of show time.  Including doing some filler episodes.
Then you spend 20 minutes to resolve that season. Then 20 minutes to cover the next 20 years, where they just hit you with gut punch after gut punch.  You don't have time to really absorb and get where the characters are.  They needed to either resolve the wedding an episode or two earlier, or make it a 90 minute finale and let us get to know the mother, get over her loss and then move on.

But otherwise I liked the finale - I thought its themes matched with that of the show overall and it wrapped everything up nicely.  And once you had time to get over the emotional kneejerk reactions you have time to appreciate it.


I agree with your comments about the pacing. Extending it to 3 or 4 episodes would have given the audience more time to catch up. It sounds like they had filmed a little under an hour of footage for the episode and cut it down for air time, so maybe they'll include those scenes in the DVD. Surely they could have cut an episode or two of filler to make the finale better. Hell, the whole Slapsgiving episode could have been tossed with basically nothing lost.
 
2014-04-23 11:02:54 PM
"Like Saget, Ryan will never be seen on the show."

Well, at least one decision has already been well made.
 
jbc [TotalFark]
2014-04-23 11:09:04 PM

darkjezter: kroonermanblack: Have there been any/many 'spinoff' shows like this that really succeeded? I know there are a few which exploded, but it seems like the lion's share (more than 90%) just fail.

There are a few spin-off shows that actually became more popular than the shows they spun off from.

"Saved By The Bell" was more popular than "Good Morning Miss Bliss"
"The Andy Griffith Show" was more popular than "The Danny Thomas Show"
"Family Matters" was more popular than "Perfect Strangers"
"Xena: Warrior Princess" was a more popular spin-off of "Hercules: The Legendary Journeys"
"NCIS" is a spin-off of "JAG" that has gotten better ratings and is generally considered to be a better show.
"Law & Order: Special Victims Unit" has gotten better ratings and more acclaim than "Law & Order"
"Laverne and Shirley" stomped "Happy Days" in the ratings almost from its debut episode.


"Benson" outperformed "Soap".
"The Simpsons" crushed "The Tracey Ullman Show", and "ST:TNG" lasted more than twice as long as TOS.
 
2014-04-23 11:13:27 PM

Fark You I'm Drunk: TuteTibiImperes: I don't get the HIMYM finale hate - I thought it was a great ending for the series.  They even laid some pretty heavy clues about the mom's fate a few episodes before the end.

Because people are dumb. They dropped hints about it through the whole series, but people want the boring, "happy" ending.

As long as they don't show Meg Ryan's creepy plastic surgery face. No one needs to see that.


Nope. Robin and Barney divorcing was fine, the Mother dying was fine. Even "the gang" falling apart was fine, since that's how real life goes. The whole show being a pretext for Ted and Robin hooking up at the end seemed a bit much after leading up to the mother for 9 years and only spending a few episodes with her. She didn't come off as a character, she came off as a caricature of a woman who would fit into Ted's life with little effort on his part. If she came up a season or two earlier, it could have been different and she wouldn't have just seemed like a prop to get Robin and Ted together 25 years after they dated for a year.

Still a good show, but they had huge issues with pacing and became all too evident by the last year.
 
2014-04-23 11:15:51 PM
So the dad's name is Harry?
 
2014-04-23 11:17:45 PM

darkjezter: "Laverne and Shirley" stomped "Happy Days" in the ratings almost from its debut episode.


No love for Joanie Loves Chachi?
 
2014-04-23 11:44:10 PM

rynthetyn: Fark You I'm Drunk: TuteTibiImperes: I don't get the HIMYM finale hate - I thought it was a great ending for the series.  They even laid some pretty heavy clues about the mom's fate a few episodes before the end.

Because people are dumb. They dropped hints about it through the whole series, but people want the boring, "happy" ending.

As long as they don't show Meg Ryan's creepy plastic surgery face. No one needs to see that.

Precisely. There were all kinds of hints that it wasn't really about the mother, it was Ted telling the kids about Robin while reassuring them that he loved their mother.

It's like if they made a prequel to "As Time Goes By" about Lionel's first marriage.


Not in any way shape or form.
 
2014-04-24 01:19:29 AM

Fark You I'm Drunk: TuteTibiImperes: I don't get the HIMYM finale hate - I thought it was a great ending for the series.  They even laid some pretty heavy clues about the mom's fate a few episodes before the end.

Because people are dumb. They dropped hints about it through the whole series, but people want the boring, "happy" ending.


Wrong, there are legitimate reasons why people hate the final episode. Not just because "they wanted a happy ending."

Many people hated the HIMYM finale because it undid a lot of character development that had occurred over the course of the series.  After an entire season taking place during Barney and Robin's wedding weekend and showing the audience how right they were for each other, they get divorced 20 minutes into the final episode.  After making a big deal about Ted and Robin finally letting go of one another, we learn in the end that they never really got over each other.   After several seasons of Barney slowly changing from a womanizer into somebody capable of being in a relationship, he goes right back to being a womanizer.

Plus, as has already been mentioned, a lot of viewers were sick and tired of Ted & Robin's on-again, off-again nature.  Even before the finale aired, many fans were joking that the show should be called "How I Was In Love With Your Aunt Robin for Eight Years Before I Settled for Your Mother."

Another thing people hated about the ending was the poorly-edited penultimate scene where Future Ted is talking to footage of his kids that was taped clear back in the second season, complete with a laugh track that is  really out of place.  It basically goes like this:

Ted:  And that, kids, is how I met your mother.
Girl: Dad, this has never been about mom.  It's always been about Aunt Robin.
*laugh track*
Ted: Wait, what?
Girl: It's so obvious that you're in love with Aunt Robin.  You didn't tell us this so we'd know how you met mom, you told us this because you want to know if we'd be okay with you dating Aunt Robin.
*laugh track*
Ted: It's that obvious.
Son:  Totally dad.  It's fine.  We love Aunt Robin.  You should go plow her like a corn field.
*laugh track*
Ted: Okay, maybe I will.

Carter and Bays may have planned the ending to the show clear back in season 2, but there's no law requiring them to stick to that ending.  Undoing so much important character development just to fit your long-planned ending turned the finale into a mess.
 
2014-04-24 02:16:33 AM
I've read a lot of reactions on the internet, and it seems a fair amount of people were disappointed by the final season, and the finale in particular. I'm in agreement with the lackluster final season. The 24 episodes concerning the wedding weekend was overkill, and a least a few of those would have been better served in the flashforward of the finale eps we got. As far as the finale goes, yeah, it was rushed and a bit clunky, but none of it was unexpected. This show was never, ever about the mom. It was about Ted and Robin. For all the will they/won't they, it was plain as the ann on nose's face that while Ted may have been able to move on from Robin, he was never, ever going to get over her. Sometimes that happens. I don't believe he settled from Tracy, but even if he did...it happens. I think a lot of people don't like the idea, whether because they know they were settled for, or they know they settles. Doesn't make them feel good. Even if he settled for her(lacking Robin), and she settled for him(lacking Max)...they made it work, and were relatively happy. It's life.

So Ted ended up with Robin. Even if we're to believe it finally lasted(I think she probably just used him to make her feel good about herself...again)...well...they deserve one another. Neither of them were particularly good people. Nor was Barney(total Karma, him having a daughter). Really, Marshall was the only stand-out good person, and to a lesser extent Lilly. I'm glad those two got a good ending. Fudge Supreme. Ha!
 
2014-04-24 02:53:01 AM

darkjezter: Undoing so much important character development just to fit your long-planned ending turned the finale into a mess.


C'mon broham you know Barney was gay the whole time, right? Why else would he find such a manly beard? Srsly magic tricks? Fashion sense? Singing? Dancing? Catch phrases? A blog? Wayne Brady? Never finding the right woman out of hundreds? Relationships that end once he reaches the bedroom? Unrequited attraction to Ted?

The finale was good. The last season? Sucked on ice.
 
2014-04-24 04:43:25 AM

robohobo: Really, Marshall was the only stand-out good person, and to a lesser extent Lilly.


You're joking about Lily, right?  There's a large portion of the fandom who  hate Lily because they consider her to be self-righteous, self-absorbed, and hypocritical.  Some of the common complaints about her include:

1. Dumping Marshall at the end of season 1 so that she could "discover herself" by going to art school in San Francisco (which is unnecessary because she could have found just as good of an art school in New York, a fact pointed out by Ted).  Then, when she failed as an artist, she came back to New York and begged Marshall to take her back.
2. When she discovered an old answering machine tape where Ted called her a "very bad word" (implied to be coont) for choosing art school over Marshall, she held Christmas hostage until Ted apologized to her.
3. Stole an autographed baseball from Ted's boss, putting Ted's career at risk, just because Ted's boss was mean to her.
4. Racked up a huge amount of credit card debt from compulsively buying designer clothes, forcing Marshall to take a corporate law job that he hated so he could pay off her debts.  Then, when Marshall suggested that she sell off some of her designer clothes to help pay their bills, she got angry with him.
5. Then she complains about how Marshall "isn't the man that she married" because he is in corporate law instead of environmental law.   Even though the whole reason Marshall took a corporate job in the first place was to pay off Lily's debts.
6. She engineered the breakup of several of Ted's relationships because she didn't approve of his girlfriend.
7. Almost abandoned Marshall to go to Spain in the wake of his father's death.

That's all I can think of for now.  Lily is the HIMYM equivalent of Skylar from Breaking Bad - there's a large portion of fans who utterly  despise her.
 
2014-04-24 04:50:25 AM

darkjezter: robohobo: Really, Marshall was the only stand-out good person, and to a lesser extent Lilly.

You're joking about Lily, right?  There's a large portion of the fandom who  hate Lily because they consider her to be self-righteous, self-absorbed, and hypocritical.  Some of the common complaints about her include:

1. Dumping Marshall at the end of season 1 so that she could "discover herself" by going to art school in San Francisco (which is unnecessary because she could have found just as good of an art school in New York, a fact pointed out by Ted).  Then, when she failed as an artist, she came back to New York and begged Marshall to take her back.
2. When she discovered an old answering machine tape where Ted called her a "very bad word" (implied to be coont) for choosing art school over Marshall, she held Christmas hostage until Ted apologized to her.
3. Stole an autographed baseball from Ted's boss, putting Ted's career at risk, just because Ted's boss was mean to her.
4. Racked up a huge amount of credit card debt from compulsively buying designer clothes, forcing Marshall to take a corporate law job that he hated so he could pay off her debts.  Then, when Marshall suggested that she sell off some of her designer clothes to help pay their bills, she got angry with him.
5. Then she complains about how Marshall "isn't the man that she married" because he is in corporate law instead of environmental law.   Even though the whole reason Marshall took a corporate job in the first place was to pay off Lily's debts.
6. She engineered the breakup of several of Ted's relationships because she didn't approve of his girlfriend.
7. Almost abandoned Marshall to go to Spain in the wake of his father's death.

That's all I can think of for now.  Lily is the HIMYM equivalent of Skylar from Breaking Bad - there's a large portion of fans who utterly  despise her.


This is why I said 'to a lesser extent'. Marshall stands as the only truly good person in the group.
 
2014-04-24 06:29:52 AM
Or she could be teaching her hot daughter
4.bp.blogspot.com

"How I fake an orgasm"
laurajul.dk
 
2014-04-24 07:17:08 AM
I just thought it was unfair that Bob Saget didn't get to do the final scenes, and have Robin played by Rhea Perlman.
 
2014-04-24 08:09:03 AM

kroonermanblack: Have there been any/many 'spinoff' shows like this that really succeeded? I know there are a few which exploded, but it seems like the lion's share (more than 90%) just fail.


Frasier (Cheers spin-off)

Joanie Loves Chachie, Laverne & Shirley, Mork & Mindy (Happy Days spin-offs)

Are the only sitcom ones that spring to mind.
 
2014-04-24 09:38:18 AM
She has a face fit for voice-overs:

www.cityoffilms.com
 
2014-04-24 10:00:34 AM

darkjezter: kroonermanblack: Have there been any/many 'spinoff' shows like this that really succeeded? I know there are a few which exploded, but it seems like the lion's share (more than 90%) just fail.

There are a few spin-off shows that actually became more popular than the shows they spun off from.

"Saved By The Bell" was more popular than "Good Morning Miss Bliss"
"The Andy Griffith Show" was more popular than "The Danny Thomas Show"
"Family Matters" was more popular than "Perfect Strangers"
"Xena: Warrior Princess" was a more popular spin-off of "Hercules: The Legendary Journeys"
"NCIS" is a spin-off of "JAG" that has gotten better ratings and is generally considered to be a better show.
"Law & Order: Special Victims Unit" has gotten better ratings and more acclaim than "Law & Order"
"Laverne and Shirley" stomped "Happy Days" in the ratings almost from its debut episode.


The Jeffersons was on par or better than All in the Family
 
F42
2014-04-24 10:00:47 AM
This ought to be just as good as That 80's Show.
 
2014-04-24 11:38:12 AM

Cymbal: Fark You I'm Drunk: TuteTibiImperes: I don't get the HIMYM finale hate - I thought it was a great ending for the series.  They even laid some pretty heavy clues about the mom's fate a few episodes before the end.

Because people are dumb. They dropped hints about it through the whole series, but people want the boring, "happy" ending.

As long as they don't show Meg Ryan's creepy plastic surgery face. No one needs to see that.

Maybe people just got tired of the endless Ted is in love with Robin, wait no he's not, wait yes he is, ad nauseum.  The show was without a doubt the biggest farking tease in television history, and the ending was predictably awful.  If HIMYM was a chick she'd be really hot and great at giving blowjobs but would never give you one because reasons.


The problem was HIMYM lasted 9 seasons, it went on just a little too long and did the whole "Will they, Won't They" tension tropes between Ted and Robin when we all knew they didn't end up together.

The last season was executed badly, they did a whole season about him getting over Robin and how Barney and Robin are a good couple, then undid that in the last episode.

If the wedding stuff ended mid-season and expanded the finale into the last few episodes it would have been better I think.

/Overall, I liked the finale. It was bittersweet and real
 
2014-04-24 12:43:13 PM

Empty H: darkjezter: kroonermanblack: Have there been any/many 'spinoff' shows like this that really succeeded? I know there are a few which exploded, but it seems like the lion's share (more than 90%) just fail.

There are a few spin-off shows that actually became more popular than the shows they spun off from.

"Saved By The Bell" was more popular than "Good Morning Miss Bliss"
"The Andy Griffith Show" was more popular than "The Danny Thomas Show"
"Family Matters" was more popular than "Perfect Strangers"
"Xena: Warrior Princess" was a more popular spin-off of "Hercules: The Legendary Journeys"
"NCIS" is a spin-off of "JAG" that has gotten better ratings and is generally considered to be a better show.
"Law & Order: Special Victims Unit" has gotten better ratings and more acclaim than "Law & Order"
"Laverne and Shirley" stomped "Happy Days" in the ratings almost from its debut episode.

"Psych" was more popular than "Scrubs"

The Mentalist.
 
2014-04-24 09:39:17 PM
I hope this will be as good as "That '80s Show."
 
2014-04-24 11:50:56 PM

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Empty H: darkjezter: kroonermanblack: Have there been any/many 'spinoff' shows like this that really succeeded? I know there are a few which exploded, but it seems like the lion's share (more than 90%) just fail.

There are a few spin-off shows that actually became more popular than the shows they spun off from.

"Saved By The Bell" was more popular than "Good Morning Miss Bliss"
"The Andy Griffith Show" was more popular than "The Danny Thomas Show"
"Family Matters" was more popular than "Perfect Strangers"
"Xena: Warrior Princess" was a more popular spin-off of "Hercules: The Legendary Journeys"
"NCIS" is a spin-off of "JAG" that has gotten better ratings and is generally considered to be a better show.
"Law & Order: Special Victims Unit" has gotten better ratings and more acclaim than "Law & Order"
"Laverne and Shirley" stomped "Happy Days" in the ratings almost from its debut episode.

"Psych" was more popular than "Scrubs"The Mentalist.


Does "Stark Trek: TNG" count as a spinoff?
 
2014-04-25 12:04:44 AM

lamecomedian: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Empty H: darkjezter: kroonermanblack: Have there been any/many 'spinoff' shows like this that really succeeded? I know there are a few which exploded, but it seems like the lion's share (more than 90%) just fail.

There are a few spin-off shows that actually became more popular than the shows they spun off from.

"Saved By The Bell" was more popular than "Good Morning Miss Bliss"
"The Andy Griffith Show" was more popular than "The Danny Thomas Show"
"Family Matters" was more popular than "Perfect Strangers"
"Xena: Warrior Princess" was a more popular spin-off of "Hercules: The Legendary Journeys"
"NCIS" is a spin-off of "JAG" that has gotten better ratings and is generally considered to be a better show.
"Law & Order: Special Victims Unit" has gotten better ratings and more acclaim than "Law & Order"
"Laverne and Shirley" stomped "Happy Days" in the ratings almost from its debut episode.

"Psych" was more popular than "Scrubs"The Mentalist.

Does "Stark Trek: TNG" count as a spinoff?


No, but "Quark's Place" does. I loved the episode where Morn told his life story.
 
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