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(Talking Points Memo)   Bill O'Reilly asks Bundy Militia member:"How does your protest differ from Occupy Wall Street?" Bundy supporter:"Mr. Bundy is providing the country with beef." Hey everybody: FREE STEAKS   (talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 88
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2014-04-23 06:04:43 PM  
15 votes:

JC22: Can't have it both ways jackass.



You've been duped into believing a fairy tale.  Bundy is a whacko who openly admits he doesn't recognize that the federal government exists and that he doesn't owe any grazing fees.  Who the hell gets to just ignore the fact that this country is a united republic in a bizarre scheme to avoid paying his/her fair share of taxes.

Then a group of well armed nut jobs show up and talk about putting their own women out front so they'll be killed by the federal government.  Why?  So they can get it on video.  Again, the logic of unsound minds.

You're siding with a bunch of very dangerous sociopaths.  These men aren't heroes caught up in a Democratic conspiracy, they're a bunch of free loaders trying to get a free ride on the backs of the America taxpayer.  They're living in a broken fantasy of ignoring laws they don't like.  They're no different than the "Freemen" who refuse to get drivers licenses, put license plates on their cars or pay taxes.  Yet, they still want to use those roads which someone else's tax dollars bought.  Maybe they should build their own roads to the local supermarket.

Look, I'm a pro-gun guy (note my Fark handle) but these idiots are the greatest threat to gun rights as anyone, anywhere, ever.  If people start taking up arms every time they want to get out of paying a god damn tax, we will very quickly see a constitutional amendment which nullifies the second amendment.  These extremist idiots are going to completely fark things for all of us.

Then people like you, who are too dumb to think for yourself and instead parrot contrived nonsense spewed by idiots selling advertising on radio and TV shows.  Limbaugh and Hannity both work for the same company and they have 100 million dollar contracts to spin up this sort of nonsense which a gullible portion of society eagerly chokes down.

If you value your rights, tell these morons to pay their farking grazing fees and stop acting like a group of 12 year olds.
2014-04-23 05:05:36 PM  
10 votes:
There were 32 million cattle slaughtered last year in the US for food.  I'm sure that the market can lose 900 of them without the country's beef supply suffering any.
2014-04-23 04:03:27 PM  
10 votes:
You didn't destroy property and weren't arrested because BLM agents assumed (probably correctly) that you would try to murder them if they didn't de-escalate the situation. Last I checked, nobody in OWS waved guns in the faces of federal agents and dared them to play chicken.
2014-04-23 05:16:22 PM  
8 votes:
Stewart already covered this:
"Beef, just like anything else, is cheaper when you steal the raw materials needed to make it!"
2014-04-23 05:50:01 PM  
6 votes:
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2014-04-23 04:56:33 PM  
6 votes:

Serious Black: You didn't destroy property and weren't arrested because BLM agents assumed (probably correctly) that you would try to murder them if they didn't de-escalate the situation. Last I checked, nobody in OWS waved guns in the faces of federal agents and dared them to play chicken.


It would have been a totally different tone of coverage too.

"Armed gunmen have taken over a protest and are now in a stand off with New York Police.  FBI and DHS agents to assess and assist NYPD, meanwhile the National Guard has been deployed to staging areas around Wall Street, should the violence spill into the city at large."
2014-04-23 04:55:17 PM  
6 votes:
Im a vegetarian and a taxpayer. I don't appreciate my taxes going to subsidize your beef.
2014-04-23 06:29:57 PM  
5 votes:
impaler:  [...]  Why do conservatives have to lie about EVERYTHING.

Because their values and beliefs are inconsistent with reality, so they invent their own.
2014-04-23 07:44:32 PM  
4 votes:
"I don't recognize the United States government as even existing."

images.dailykos.com

Funny how his Passionate Defenders are desperately trying to extract some reason or philosophy from this idiot's actions. He just doesn't want to pay his bills. All there is to it.
2014-04-23 07:27:12 PM  
4 votes:

This text is now purple: Fart_Machine: This text is now purple: Fart_Machine: You mean after they were attacked?

Today, a BLM truck driven by a non-law enforcement civilian employee assisting with gather operations was struck by a protester on an ATV and the truck's exit from the area was blocked by a group of individuals who gathered around the vehicle. A police dog was also kicked.

You're concerned about an ATV striking a Freightliner (watch the video) dump body that likely weighs the better part of 30 tons?

That's like attacking my foot with your face.

Well in that case it's totally OK for them to ram it and block off the vehicle.

In a longer response, what seems to irk you the most is that the Tea Party type has started to co-opt OWS-like tactics. They're using PR-friendly shields (women), obstructing larger government vehicles with much smaller sacrificial targets, occupying government land, playing up the PR attack on the much-better armed federal response. It never looks good when you have a photo of a dog going after someone, no matter what came before or after. This is straight out of the OWS playbook. They're daring the government to start firing first. And so long as they don't fire first, it will work.

You don't hate the game, you hate the player.


Except that OWS never used women as human shields, ramming vehicles, or pointing guns and threatening Federal employees and police.  Otherwise it's totally the same thing.

/roll eyes
2014-04-23 06:00:18 PM  
4 votes:

BravadoGT: Bundy is a jerk.  My problem is with the government's reaction.  They send in waves of cops all in their best Call of Duty getups like they're about to storm a Hydra base over...an unpaid bill?

Seems like there's people on both who would like a violent confrontation, and maybe next time someone flinches?


They didn't send waves of cops out after them. The BLM started rounding up his cattle that he had illegally grazing on government land. Him and his sons attacked the BLM workers on government land. His sons were arrested and released. This news got out and nutcases supporting Bundy came out in droves. The local police sent out officers to keep the peace and the BLM sent out armed rangers to protect the workers that were being threatened by Bundy, his family and the armed nutcases that came out to support him. The Bundy family and their supporters are the ones who started the violence by attacking government employees who were rounding up cattle that were illegally grazing, and forced the government and local police to flood the area with police and rangers to keep the peace and protect the government workers.
2014-04-23 05:56:34 PM  
4 votes:
How many other farmers provide Americans with beef without throwing a huge hissy fit over land rights? Because I'd rather give them my money...
2014-04-23 05:29:08 PM  
4 votes:
Remember, kids:

Theft is okay as long as it supports a business venture.
And/or you're white.
2014-04-23 05:27:24 PM  
4 votes:
can somebody explain to me why we're even talking about this? the guy was grazing his cattle on federal lands and not paying fees, right? he then threatened federal agents with deadly force when they came to deal with him.

why is this even an issue? why isn't he in jail for threatening federal officers with firearms?
2014-04-23 05:20:11 PM  
4 votes:

JC22: My view is if the guy is breaking the law, then put a lien on his stuff. But to show up in that type of force is absolutely ridiculous and something else is going on and most likely it involves Reid and the solar farm from the Chinese.

And Reid needs to get his foot out of his mouth that was just in his @$$ and shut up about domestic terrorists because he has no idea what a domestic terrorist is.

And lastly Mr Reid. If you are going to spout off about enforcing the law and some citizen can't do what he's doing then you need to enforce all laws, especially those that are here ILLEGALLY and also those in that certain government run tax agency called the IRS that owe billion in back taxes.

Can't have it both ways jackass.


Hey, how do you enforce a lien?

Oh right. By confiscating property.

Hey what do you do when the person whose property you're trying to confiscate threatens to shoot you?
2014-04-23 05:57:03 PM  
3 votes:
That moocher and all his cows could disappear today and it wouldn't make a dent in beef production. Traitorous, violent, freeloaders, the lot of them.
2014-04-23 05:48:16 PM  
3 votes:
Hey Bill, just a few Fair and Balanced pieces of FACT:

1. It's NOT Bundy's land.
2. His family has NOT been there "since 1870".

As for who was trying to "provoke a confrontation", does this asshat REALLY believe that the BLM would send people down there without some backup, and then not send more when you and your chucklehead fellow asshats stated that you were heading down there with your guns and 'itching for a fight'?

And wow, O'Reilly actually gave a decent interview there, for the most part. Are we all about to be called up for the Rapture, or something?
2014-04-23 05:38:14 PM  
3 votes:
I'd say the biggest difference is that one was a loosely organized mass gathering of apples to protest the increasing income inequality and the other is a gathering of anti-government gun toting oranges to protect a Rancher who decided he wanted to have his cattle graze on land that wasn't his despite 20 years of the courts telling him to knock it off.

While it's cute that he'd ask the guy a question like that to throw him off, the two aren't very similar at all.
2014-04-23 05:23:16 PM  
3 votes:
Yay! Lemme jump on the assumption bandwagon too!

Occupy supporters: Have no job / provide nothing to society / are a drain on our nation
Bundy: Proud self-made rancher / takes no government tax benefits** / pays for everything he uses***

* Ahem  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundy_standoff#Claim_of_inherited_grazin g _rights
** Double Ahem http://www.agweb.com/farm_business/tax_tips.aspx
** COUGH COUGH COUGH http://www.usnews.com/opinion/economic-intelligence/2014/04/22/cliven - bundy-owes-american-taxpayers-for-his-cattle-grazing
2014-04-23 05:13:49 PM  
3 votes:

James!: [a2.img.talkingpointsmemo.com image 652x365]George F*cking Washington 2014.


Oh look.  Surprise.  Another bearded, shaved headed twit.
2014-04-23 06:55:16 PM  
2 votes:

RanDomino: IlGreven: /Used to be, civil disobedience meant you let yourself be arrested, so you could fix the law through the courts.

False.


Actually, that is entirely true. At least the "let yourself be arrested" part. Maybe you want to resolve the issue in the courts. But at least as Gandhi used the term, the purpose was to arouse the conscience of the community. He specified that peacefully accepting the consequences of civil disobedience was part of civil disobedience.
2014-04-23 06:44:51 PM  
2 votes:

This text is now purple: They're using PR-friendly shields (women), obstructing larger government vehicles with much smaller sacrificial targets, occupying government land,


1. There were no shields, the difference between the klan militias and OWS is the occupy protesters had a large percentage of women. They were not asked to be shields and there was no pr to create anything of the sort

2. Zuccotti Park was not public land

So not only are you misinformed about the Bundy situation but you can't even get your facts right about OWS. Is it really a surprise people who are uneducated about a topic almost always have conservative viewpoints?
2014-04-23 06:43:21 PM  
2 votes:

firefly212: Serious Black: You didn't destroy property and weren't arrested because BLM agents assumed (probably correctly) that you would try to murder them if they didn't de-escalate the situation. Last I checked, nobody in OWS waved guns in the faces of federal agents and dared them to play chicken.

Maybe that's where OWS went wrong... they should bring guns next time.


And pitchforks and torches.

OWS was in the right. Wall street ripped everyone off and needed to be taken to task. And still does.

BLM is a group of guys that support a guy who has ripped everyone off. And have delusions of grandeur.

bundy is like a wall street banker in a sense, a total farking thief with no sense of perspective.
2014-04-23 06:36:02 PM  
2 votes:
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2014-04-23 06:29:08 PM  
2 votes:

dfenstrate: kidgenius: Mikey1969: Shaw responded by arguing that the groups are different because the Bundy activists have not destroyed property or been arrested.

Well, it's not because you assholes didn't TRY.I really hope you don't dislocate your shoulder while patting yourself on the back.

Especially after one of those idiots kicked a police dog.

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The only reason they weren't arrested is the police realized there would be a serious situation outside of their control if they started doing that.
Or maybe the officer in the middle realized the event had been caught on camera, and decided it was best to chill the f*ck out.

I'm not sure why you think the BLM officers are cut from any finer cloth than the local bully cops we read about routinely on fark. (Not saying all cops are power tripping bullies, but we all know they're out there.)


That photo and its caption prove exactly 1) how dishonest is Kliven's Kowardly Klan, and 2) how gullible are his apologists.

The video clearly depicts an out of control mob of screaming Bundy thugs. Police officers are trying to obtain civil order. The mob of Bundy thugs repeatedly advance on police officers, aggressively encroaching normal personal space to shout in their faces.

The man who was bitten, we'll call him "Bundy thug #1," was one of the boldest aggressors. Finally, the police officer deploys the dog in order to obtain Bundy thug #1's compliance. At that time Bundy thug #1 criminally abused the animal by kicking it.

The officer is pointing in the picture, but the animal clearly can't see his finger. He is most likely pointing to direct Bundy thug #1 to back down.

It was an act of criminal animal abuse because under the circumstances, resisting lawfully issued instructions by police officers to back down, Bundy thug #1 had no right of self-defense.

The relevant portion of the video starts around the 51 second mark. The officer deploys the dog to protect his fellow police officer around 1:04-5.

The linked article laughably describes the rowdy protest depicted as "peaceful," demonstrating the delusional level of bias among the Bundy thug apologist set.
2014-04-23 06:26:06 PM  
2 votes:
James!:
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George F*cking Washington 2014.


What is it with extremist rightwingers and being bald? Some sort of Aryan Skinhead thing?
2014-04-23 06:19:37 PM  
2 votes:
gobbledygeekbtr.files.wordpress.com
2014-04-23 06:01:21 PM  
2 votes:

dfenstrate: kidgenius: Mikey1969: Shaw responded by arguing that the groups are different because the Bundy activists have not destroyed property or been arrested.

Well, it's not because you assholes didn't TRY.I really hope you don't dislocate your shoulder while patting yourself on the back.

Especially after one of those idiots kicked a police dog.

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The only reason they weren't arrested is the police realized there would be a serious situation outside of their control if they started doing that.
Or maybe the officer in the middle realized the event had been caught on camera, and decided it was best to chill the f*ck out.

I'm not sure why you think the BLM officers are cut from any finer cloth than the local bully cops we read about routinely on fark. (Not saying all cops are power tripping bullies, but we all know they're out there.)


You mean this guy here kicking the dog with his right leg?

i.dailymail.co.uk
sheepdogusa.files.wordpress.com

Sorry, but watch the damn video.

Your picture shows a handler holding his dog back and putting his arm out to create some distance between the dog and the guy.
2014-04-23 05:54:48 PM  
2 votes:

BravadoGT: Bundy is a jerk.  My problem is with the government's reaction.  They send in waves of cops all in their best Call of Duty getups like they're about to storm a Hydra base over...an unpaid bill?


No. The armored police units did not show up until after Bundy and his thugs started armed resistance. Before that it was a few guys herding cattle into pens to await transport, presumably to auction.
2014-04-23 05:50:48 PM  
2 votes:

impaler: Serious Black: Please infrom us then: what is a domestic terrorist?

People like "militia" member Timothy McVeigh are domestic terrorists.


Blowing up BLM offices might make you a domestic terrorist too.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/04/15/everything -y ou-need-to-know-about-the-long-fight-between-cliven-bundy-and-the-fede ral-government/
2014-04-23 05:50:44 PM  
2 votes:

Headso: I don't think the government needs to mess with people protesting wealth inequality and bankster frauds nor do they need to fark with some guy grazing cattle on some barren shiathole part of the country, but hey, that's just me...


We're all painfully aware that your view on this is "claim that the BLM force was unnecessary while refusing to accept that it wasn't them that first brought weapons all in a really weird attempt to avoid saying - hey that Bundy guy seems like an ass because for some reason that's just too upsetting".

There's really no need to tell us twice a day anymore.
2014-04-23 05:41:53 PM  
2 votes:

JC22: But to show up in that type of force is absolutely ridiculous and something else is going on and most likely it involves Reid and the solar farm from the Chinese.


*ahem* http://www.snopes.com/politics/conspiracy/nevada.asp
2014-04-23 05:32:54 PM  
2 votes:
Lets f*ck with this guy.

Declare him his own country.
Shoot his cattle when they wonder into the U.S.
Deny him a passport to the U.S.
Don't let him use roads the electric grid, water ect.
Declare his property not subject to U.S law. If someone robs him to bad.
If he doesn't respect U.S law then he doesn't get protected by it.

Make it a stupid reality show.
2014-04-23 05:25:13 PM  
2 votes:

JC22: My view is if the guy is breaking the law, then put a lien on his stuff. But to show up in that type of force is absolutely ridiculous and something else is going on and most likely it involves Reid and the solar farm from the Chinese.

And Reid needs to get his foot out of his mouth that was just in his @$$ and shut up about domestic terrorists because he has no idea what a domestic terrorist is.

And lastly Mr Reid. If you are going to spout off about enforcing the law and some citizen can't do what he's doing then you need to enforce all laws, especially those that are here ILLEGALLY and also those in that certain government run tax agency called the IRS that owe billion in back taxes.

Can't have it both ways jackass.


static.giantbomb.com

\it's the next step in your little screed, amirite?
2014-04-23 05:24:46 PM  
2 votes:
"Mr. Bundy is providing the country with beef."

I'm sure all the other cattle ranchers, who this leech scum undercuts, have something to say about this.
2014-04-23 05:20:08 PM  
2 votes:
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/Beef?
2014-04-23 05:16:34 PM  
2 votes:
I'm a useful, productive citizen! I pay my taxes! Oh wait, no I don't.
2014-04-23 05:12:53 PM  
2 votes:

sigdiamond2000: [img.fark.net image 652x365]

He looks like he's questioning whether O'Reilly even lifts.


You're on national TV, can't you at least put on a collared shirt?
2014-04-23 05:02:55 PM  
2 votes:

James!: George F*cking Washington 2014.


He looks like a guy I met at a gay bar last week. He is the hot bearded daddy bear type.

Plus he got the crazy eyes. Hot.
2014-04-24 10:37:36 AM  
1 votes:

Thunderpipes: Occupy was protesting succesful businessmen who control investing for the entire country


This is what Republicans actually believe!

www.outsidethebeltway.com
2014-04-24 08:41:30 AM  
1 votes:
The Bundy ranch is protesting the power of the federal government.  OWS was protesting the power of private industry and upset that the Federal government wasn't taking more from the rich to give to the poor.

Seems pretty polar opposite to me.
2014-04-24 12:21:11 AM  
1 votes:

dr_blasto: pedrop357: find it funny that so many people on the left are now obsessed with 'freeloading' and this guy's use of crap land far away from anything, but can't be too upset about it without being hypocritical because another group who (my guess, anyway) also knew nothing about it are using it as a rallying point against the feds.


I believe you're just seeing people having fun throwing the right-wing bullshiat back at them as their rampant hypocrisy is fun and amusing to call out.


And get this. I've been paying taxes for decades. If I lose my job, I can get the unemployment I've been paying for for decades. For this, Republican scum will call be a "freeloader."

This asshole is an actual fuking freeloader, and he's the Republican's darling right now.

Tribalist scum.
2014-04-24 12:06:11 AM  
1 votes:

JC22: Ah..so a rancher thumbing his nose at questionable law here (which is still under scrutiny) requires 200 armed agents and snipers to come in?


He already lost two court cases.  The law isn't questionable; he's just a freeloader asshat.
2014-04-23 10:24:47 PM  
1 votes:
There is a part of me that wants to see these militia asshats start something-- REALLY start something-- So we can all enjoy the tale of how a bunch of overweight toughguys armed with rifles, handguns, and shotguns thought they could take on the United States right up until the moment they were surrounded by tanks and blasted to Kingdom Come while they ineffectually fired thousands of rounds at the Nevada National Guard who stayed snug and safe in their armored vehicles.

And if not that story, then I'll take the story of how a ranch and a gaggle of bald, limp-dicked conservative idiots armed to the teeth with guns and questionably-female human shields were turned into a deep crater thanks to the non-nuke ICBM fired from by a crew on the other side of the country.

Seriously, it makes me laugh to know that these chucklef#cks believe they can fight the United States military armed with a bunch of guns they bought at some redneck gun show or firing range. Unless they have access to satellites, tanks, ICBMs, fighter jets, bombers, and other weapons of  real  war, they're about as threatening to the military as a militant branch of the Ringling Bros. clowns.
2014-04-23 07:43:34 PM  
1 votes:
Fat white bearded men with a second amendment obsession who feel threatened by minorities are the biggest problem in America. Period.
2014-04-23 07:29:38 PM  
1 votes:
The Ballad of Craven Cliven
(to the tune of The Ballad of Irving)

He was old and fat and rode out of the West,
That welfare cowboy wailed "help, I'm oppressed!"
A parasite moocher rollin' in the dough,
Sure loved his wife (just to hide behind though).

They called him Bundy.
Fat Bundy.
Welfare Bundy.
Chickens**t Bundy.
The fattest most craven welfare cheat (two beat pause) in the West.

Fat Bundy knew what was his by right
Everything federal within his sight.
"I should have rights the little folks don't
"They pay their grazing fees but I sure won't."

Bundy.
Sponging Bundy.
Entitled Bundy.
The fattest most craven welfare cheat (two beat pause) in the West.

Then Big Bad Fed he waltzed into town
His aim was to take Fat Bundy's cows.
Big Bad Fed said "you gotta pay your bills."
Fat Bundy said "I can't, I ain't got no skills!"

Bundy.
Welfare Bundy.
Chickens**t Bundy.
The fattest most craven welfare cheat (two beat pause) in the West.

Fat Bundy called some militia thugs:
"I need dumbs**ts to take some slugs,
"They say I'm a coward, but my name is Clive,
"And I'm just using folks so I'll survive!"

They called him Cliven.
Rat Cliven.
Low down Cliven.
Cowardly Cliven.
The fattest most craven welfare cheat (two beat pause) in the West.

Said Fat Bundy "now it's time to draw down,"
But once he saw Fed's gun his pants turned brown.
Said Fat Bundy when he knew he couldn't flee,
"A woman's place? It's in front of me!"

Cliven.
Craven Cliven.
Cowardly Cliven.
The fattest most craven welfare cheat (two beat pause) in the West.

Big Bad Fed really wasn't so bad:
"To gun down Clive's womenfolk would make me sad.
"Killing some civilians ain't worth no cows.
"I'll just choose to let this go (for now)."

Bundy.
Fat Bundy.
Welfare Bundy.
The fattest most craven welfare cheat (two beat pause) in the West.

Big Fat Bundy damn he sure is dumb
He thinks Fed's drawback means now he's won
Into the future he does not foresee
His coming life in Florence penitentiary

They'll call him Cliven.
Punk Cliven.
Inmate Cliven.
Salad toss Cliven
When it comes to squealing like a little pig (two beat pause) he'll be best.
2014-04-23 06:44:39 PM  
1 votes:
Didn't destroy property?  The new rules that prompted Bundy to stop paying his fees were instituted because he was overgrazing other people's land, and digging it up to create watering holes.  That sounds pretty destructive to me.  Certainly more so than a kid shiatting on a cop car.
2014-04-23 06:44:34 PM  
1 votes:

This text is now purple: n a longer response, what seems to irk you the most is that the Tea Party type has started to co-opt OWS-like tactics. They're using PR-friendly shields (women), obstructing larger government vehicles with much smaller sacrificial targets, occupying government land, playing up the PR attack on the much-better armed federal response. It never looks good when you have a photo of a dog going after someone, no matter what came before or after. This is straight out of the OWS playbook. They're daring the government to start firing first. And so long as they don't fire first, it will work.

You don't hate the game, you hate the player.


OWS and black-bloc anarchists are not the same thing. OWS tactics involve sitting around and trying to get a consensus on whether Stan has the right to have babies, and voting by waving your fingers.

/Tea Party and militia are also not the same thing. I saw those people who went to Glenn Beck's DC rally; they were a bunch of grandparents in flag shirts, not gun-toters.
2014-04-23 06:40:28 PM  
1 votes:
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2014-04-23 06:40:06 PM  
1 votes:

Mantour: [apushcanvas.pbworks.com image 850x637]


If Fox News were around back then:

"Shay's heroic stand put down by pro-government thugs"

"Brave Pennsylvania farmers silenced by the long arm of Washington's law"
2014-04-23 06:39:52 PM  
1 votes:

impaler: Baz744: The man who was bitten, we'll call him "Bundy thug #1," was one of the boldest aggressors. Finally, the police officer deploys the dog in order to obtain Bundy thug #1's compliance. At that time Bundy thug #1 criminally abused the animal by kicking it.

The officer did NOT give a command for that dog to attack, because he would have eaten thug #1's hand.


Even had he done so, the fact is Bundy thug #1 was aggressively advancing on officers, shouting in their faces, and refusing repeated instructions to back down. This in the context of a rowdy mob of out of control Bundy thugs storming around, yelling and screaming at police officers.

Even if he ordered the dog to attack, he would have been justified in doing so. Bundy thug #1 had no right of self-defense either way.
2014-04-23 06:32:08 PM  
1 votes:

Mikey1969: Shaw responded by arguing that the groups are different because the Bundy activists have not destroyed property or been arrested.

Well, it's not because you assholes didn't TRY.I really hope you don't dislocate your shoulder while patting yourself on the back.


Yep. Just because you haven't been arrested doesn't mean you haven't committed a crime.

/Used to be, civil disobedience meant you let yourself be arrested, so you could fix the law through the courts.
2014-04-23 06:24:59 PM  
1 votes:

NFA: JC22: Can't have it both ways jackass.


You've been duped into believing a fairy tale.  Bundy is a whacko who openly admits he doesn't recognize that the federal government exists and that he doesn't owe any grazing fees.  Who the hell gets to just ignore the fact that this country is a united republic in a bizarre scheme to avoid paying his/her fair share of taxes.

Then a group of well armed nut jobs show up and talk about putting their own women out front so they'll be killed by the federal government.  Why?  So they can get it on video.  Again, the logic of unsound minds.

You're siding with a bunch of very dangerous sociopaths.  These men aren't heroes caught up in a Democratic conspiracy, they're a bunch of free loaders trying to get a free ride on the backs of the America taxpayer.  They're living in a broken fantasy of ignoring laws they don't like.  They're no different than the "Freemen" who refuse to get drivers licenses, put license plates on their cars or pay taxes.  Yet, they still want to use those roads which someone else's tax dollars bought.  Maybe they should build their own roads to the local supermarket.

Look, I'm a pro-gun guy (note my Fark handle) but these idiots are the greatest threat to gun rights as anyone, anywhere, ever.  If people start taking up arms every time they want to get out of paying a god damn tax, we will very quickly see a constitutional amendment which nullifies the second amendment.  These extremist idiots are going to completely fark things for all of us.

Then people like you, who are too dumb to think for yourself and instead parrot contrived nonsense spewed by idiots selling advertising on radio and TV shows.  Limbaugh and Hannity both work for the same company and they have 100 million dollar contracts to spin up this sort of nonsense which a gullible portion of society eagerly chokes down.

If you value your rights, tell these morons to pay their farking grazing fees and stop acting like a group of 12 year olds.


I'd "Smart" you twice if I could.
2014-04-23 06:24:24 PM  
1 votes:
Bill O'Reilly asks Bundy Militia member:"How does your protest differ from Occupy Wall Street?" Bundy supporter:"Mr. Bundy is providing the country with beef." "Cuz we're stupid and trigger-happy."

FYFSubby
2014-04-23 06:10:26 PM  
1 votes:
The groups are different because the Bundy activists have not destroyed property or been arrested.

... or asked for free hand-outs, or a free education, or free health care.
But they have asked for free cattle-grazing rights on government-owned land.

Everybody involved with this thing is on the wrong side.
2014-04-23 06:08:59 PM  
1 votes:
cdn2-b.examiner.com

"I don't got no respect for no got-damned federal gummint. You see this here flag? Well I only believe in the Nevada star. I don't cotton to those other stars, or that blue field...and I CERTAINLY ain't got no reason to believe in them commie-lookin' stripes...red AND white? Balderdash!"
2014-04-23 05:58:25 PM  
1 votes:

dfenstrate: kidgenius: Mikey1969: Shaw responded by arguing that the groups are different because the Bundy activists have not destroyed property or been arrested.

Well, it's not because you assholes didn't TRY.I really hope you don't dislocate your shoulder while patting yourself on the back.

Especially after one of those idiots kicked a police dog.

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The only reason they weren't arrested is the police realized there would be a serious situation outside of their control if they started doing that.
Or maybe the officer in the middle realized the event had been caught on camera, and decided it was best to chill the f*ck out.

I'm not sure why you think the BLM officers are cut from any finer cloth than the local bully cops we read about routinely on fark. (Not saying all cops are power tripping bullies, but we all know they're out there.)


You mean after they were attacked?

Today, a BLM truck driven by a non-law enforcement civilian employee assisting with gather operations was struck by a protester on an ATV and the truck's exit from the area was blocked by a group of individuals who gathered around the vehicle. A police dog was also kicked.
2014-04-23 05:58:14 PM  
1 votes:

ifarkthereforiam: That moocher and all his cows could disappear today and it wouldn't make a dent in beef production. Traitorous, violent, freeloaders, the lot of them.


So...tea party heros?
2014-04-23 05:56:10 PM  
1 votes:

BravadoGT: Bundy is a jerk.  My problem is with the government's reaction.  They send in waves of cops all in their best Call of Duty getups like they're about to storm a Hydra base over...an unpaid bill?

Seems like there's people on both who would like a violent confrontation, and maybe next time someone flinches?


They sent in cops dressed in "combat gear" due to statements that Bundy had made in the lead up to this whole thing. BLM guys started the cattle round up, Bundy was pissed and asked for militia help. Armed citizens came for a confrontation, and the BLM sent in their own armed guys to help protect/diffuse the situation.
2014-04-23 05:52:37 PM  
1 votes:

kidgenius: Mikey1969: Shaw responded by arguing that the groups are different because the Bundy activists have not destroyed property or been arrested.

Well, it's not because you assholes didn't TRY.I really hope you don't dislocate your shoulder while patting yourself on the back.

Especially after one of those idiots kicked a police dog.

img.fark.net

The only reason they weren't arrested is the police realized there would be a serious situation outside of their control if they started doing that.

Or maybe the officer in the middle realized the event had been caught on camera, and decided it was best to chill the f*ck out.

I'm not sure why you think the BLM officers are cut from any finer cloth than the local bully cops we read about routinely on fark. (Not saying all cops are power tripping bullies, but we all know they're out there.)
2014-04-23 05:48:53 PM  
1 votes:
i58.tinypic.com
2014-04-23 05:47:44 PM  
1 votes:

JC22: My view is if the guy is breaking the law, then put a lien on his stuff. But to show up in that type of force is absolutely ridiculous and something else is going on and most likely it involves Reid and the solar farm from the Chinese.

And Reid needs to get his foot out of his mouth that was just in his @$$ and shut up about domestic terrorists because he has no idea what a domestic terrorist is.

And lastly Mr Reid. If you are going to spout off about enforcing the law and some citizen can't do what he's doing then you need to enforce all laws, especially those that are here ILLEGALLY and also those in that certain government run tax agency called the IRS that owe billion in back taxes.

Can't have it both ways jackass.


Yup, you're right.  It has nothing to do with a rancher flouting federal law and thumbing his nose at the BLM, it's all about some dirty, conniving, lowlife DEM (who we all know can't be trusted any further than we can throw them).  In fact, we should throw Mr. Reid in prison for his comments (just to be safe) and strip him of his office while we're out it.

Will that make you feel better, pumpkin?
2014-04-23 05:46:45 PM  
1 votes:
I think the feds should get together with all the other ranchers out there out there and explain how Militia McStealstuff is dicking over their legitimate businesses. Then, drop them off a couple of crates of AR15s and say, "Hey, by the way, he doesn't believe we exist. Have fun."
2014-04-23 05:45:35 PM  
1 votes:
1. Bundy sells his cows, the beef gets to market, gov. puts a lien on the proceeds, we get beef and money owed.

2.Government confiscates Bundy's cows, Govt. sells the cows, govt. keeps the money, beef gets to market, we get beef and money owed.

So, since both the above schemes end up with us getting both the beef and the money, which scheme does Bundy and his supporters advocate? Surely, they don't intend to allow Bundy to get out from paying his debt, right?
2014-04-23 05:40:38 PM  
1 votes:

lordjupiter: Both Sides Are Bad So Kill Cows???


classic.battle.net

IIRC you can get lots of cool stuff by killing cows.
2014-04-23 05:39:18 PM  
1 votes:
Wesley Snipes steals from the government and he goes to jail.

Ol' Cattlehat McWhiteman steals from the government and he's some kind of hero.
2014-04-23 05:35:02 PM  
1 votes:

JC22: But to show up in that type of force is absolutely ridiculous and something else is going on and most likely it involves Reid and the solar farm from the Chinese.


Tell me, how does bullshiat taste when you gulp it down? I've never been able to get past the smell.
2014-04-23 05:34:50 PM  
1 votes:
Someone say free steaks?  WHERE'S MY STEAK OR I'LL FARKING CUT YA!
2014-04-23 05:33:18 PM  
1 votes:

impaler: "Mr. Bundy is providing the country with beef."

I'm sure all the other cattle ranchers, who this leech scum undercuts, have something to say about this.


Yep, ranchers like Glenn Beck even called him out...yes, that Glenn Beck!*

*who may have killed a girl in 1990.
2014-04-23 05:31:39 PM  
1 votes:
If those militia guys had real jobs, they wouldn't be hanging out in Bundy's commune.
2014-04-23 05:29:56 PM  
1 votes:

This text is now purple: Serious Black: You didn't destroy property and weren't arrested because BLM agents assumed (probably correctly) that you would try to murder them if they didn't de-escalate the situation. Last I checked, nobody in OWS waved guns in the faces of federal agents and dared them to play chicken.

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OWS was more a fan of arson and anti-semitism.


Hold on now, they weren't anti-Semitic, they were just protesting against the people who control most of the money.
2014-04-23 05:26:47 PM  
1 votes:
I'm still mystified by the "take the battle to your baldness" cue-ball look that so many bald men in this country favor.

What is the thinking here? That you'll look less bald if you're totally bald?

I don't get it.

If I was bald, I'd rock the Friar Tuck/Hairy Horseshoe. It's both unique and timeless.
2014-04-23 05:23:26 PM  
1 votes:

demaL-demaL-yeH: LandOfChocolate: sigdiamond2000: [img.fark.net image 652x365]

He looks like he's questioning whether O'Reilly even lifts.

You're on national TV, can't you at least put on a collared shirt?

I didn't know that dress shirt collars came in size fireplug.


As a reasonably fit guy with a size 17 1/2 neck I can assure you that anything over a 17 neck is cut more like a tent than a shirt.
2014-04-23 05:21:32 PM  
1 votes:

iheartscotch: To be fair. His cow have probably done more for the US than the entirety of the Occupy movement.

/ what's the difference between a cow and a hippy? Cows actually have a purpose.


Ooooooo, is this a hospital? Because I feel like we just entered the BURN WARD
2014-04-23 05:21:15 PM  
1 votes:
Hell must've just froze over ... I just agreed with, and respectfully understood a cogent argument from one Bill O'Reilly?

media.giphy.com
2014-04-23 05:20:13 PM  
1 votes:

rdu_voyager: Cows go in, steaks come out. YOU CAN'T EXPLAIN THAT!!!



Yes you can...

img.fark.net
2014-04-23 05:20:09 PM  
1 votes:

LandOfChocolate: sigdiamond2000: [img.fark.net image 652x365]

He looks like he's questioning whether O'Reilly even lifts.

You're on national TV, can't you at least put on a collared shirt?


He has no neck.

upload.wikimedia.org

He's a Sontaran with a beard.
2014-04-23 05:18:49 PM  
1 votes:
Less rape?
2014-04-23 05:18:45 PM  
1 votes:
Dusty has really let himself go....
img1.wikia.nocookie.net
2014-04-23 05:18:23 PM  
1 votes:
The main difference is that the Bundy Militia didn't poop. Occupiers pooped on everything according to FOX, but these guys held it in for days. Not one of them pooped at all.
2014-04-23 05:18:15 PM  
1 votes:
My view is if the guy is breaking the law, then put a lien on his stuff. But to show up in that type of force is absolutely ridiculous and something else is going on and most likely it involves Reid and the solar farm from the Chinese.

And Reid needs to get his foot out of his mouth that was just in his @$$ and shut up about domestic terrorists because he has no idea what a domestic terrorist is.

And lastly Mr Reid. If you are going to spout off about enforcing the law and some citizen can't do what he's doing then you need to enforce all laws, especially those that are here ILLEGALLY and also those in that certain government run tax agency called the IRS that owe billion in back taxes.

Can't have it both ways jackass.
2014-04-23 05:17:56 PM  
1 votes:

LandOfChocolate: sigdiamond2000: [img.fark.net image 652x365]

He looks like he's questioning whether O'Reilly even lifts.

You're on national TV, can't you at least put on a collared shirt?


I didn't know that dress shirt collars came in size fireplug.
2014-04-23 05:17:11 PM  
1 votes:
Cows go in, steaks come out. YOU CAN'T EXPLAIN THAT!!!
2014-04-23 05:10:28 PM  
1 votes:
img.fark.net

He looks like he's questioning whether O'Reilly even lifts.
2014-04-23 04:58:59 PM  
1 votes:
Slab Bulkhead!

Cliven Beefyseed!
2014-04-23 04:55:03 PM  
1 votes:
Somehow I'm not picturing him frolicking about the country happily doling out beef to the masses.
2014-04-23 04:02:04 PM  
1 votes:

James!: "Sure we threatened government officials with guns, but we haven't destroyed anything or been arrested..."


Police cars undefecated on, pots going unsmoken, a conspicuous absence of tents on the public's land (though plenty of squatters) - they're not even TRYING to look like Occupy!
2014-04-23 03:50:23 PM  
1 votes:
Well, they've locked up the dog demographic.
 
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